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My plant spacing for Silver Queen is at least 8 to 10 inches apart in the rows and 18 to 24 inches between rows.
The corn is very tasty and I love the stuff! They need room to grow between plants. The root structure really takes off when given "allowances". AZ, You have a wonderful attitude. You are willing to learn! Same here! |
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You typically plant three kernels together for sweet corn, so it's not a problem.
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Well yes, mine is almost done for the summer.
I will start the winter garden in late September early October. |
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You typically plant three kernels together for sweet corn, so it's not a problem. View Quote BK, I have been doing that for the last few years and it has worked out well. I thin them out when more than one comes up.......or......take the extras and transplant them to areas of "inactivity" in other rows. |
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So I might be growing corn?
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned how one of my dogs knocked over a couple of my seed flats. I scooped up as much of the potting mix as I could back in, added more, replanted what had been knocked out. Speed up to now, I have several "things" growing out of the flats that I kinda thought was a flower, but am convinced is a weed that may have gotten into my potting soil from last year that I used this year, but it does kinda resemble the young corn in this thread. Here's my "problem". It's also showed up in the flat that did not get knocked over. So...either they are weeds that got into the soil, or some critter buried corn in the potting soil somewhere along the line. |
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Smallest one in thirty years. Tomatoes, peppers, summer squash, beets. <a href="http://s212.photobucket.com/user/Babo47/media/DF061522-352B-4879-B93A-908278F7C767_zpsbk11zvd3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc18/Babo47/DF061522-352B-4879-B93A-908278F7C767_zpsbk11zvd3.jpg</a> View Quote Very nice photos that you put up! |
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. View Quote Around here, the neighbors would complain if I tore up that much of my yard! Very nice! Do you have a problem with worms eating your cabbage heads? I pull over a dozen green ones off of my cabbage heads every day. What do you treat them with? |
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. Around here, the neighbors would complain if I tore up that much of my yard! Very nice! Do you have a problem with worms eating your cabbage heads? I pull over a dozen green ones off of my cabbage heads every day. What do you treat them with? I don't really treat anything ever and haven't had that problem with cabbage (knock on wood). I've sprayed neem on some really young stuff just to get it through the wimpy stage but I mostly just move stuff around. The neighbors in that brick house are old folks who are leasing. They depend on us to maintain the road and bridge etc., and get veggies. He likes to mow our grass down there on his ride-on and pile it up for us. Flat yards are pretty rare around here - they cut hay across the road though. It is about .5 acre or a little more out of 2 total. That whole lower section was 12' tall roses and shit before we bush hogged it down. This is part of the actual yard - |
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I don't really treat anything ever and haven't had that problem with cabbage (knock on wood). I've sprayed neem on some really young stuff just to get it through the wimpy stage but I mostly just move stuff around. The neighbors in that brick house are old folks who are leasing. They depend on us to maintain the road and bridge etc., and get veggies. He likes to mow our grass down there on his ride-on and pile it up for us. Flat yards are pretty rare around here - they cut hay across the road though. It is about .5 acre or a little more out of 2 total. That whole lower section was 12' tall roses and shit before we bush hogged it down. This is part of the actual yard - http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/summer%2008/PICT0144.jpg~original View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. Around here, the neighbors would complain if I tore up that much of my yard! Very nice! Do you have a problem with worms eating your cabbage heads? I pull over a dozen green ones off of my cabbage heads every day. What do you treat them with? I don't really treat anything ever and haven't had that problem with cabbage (knock on wood). I've sprayed neem on some really young stuff just to get it through the wimpy stage but I mostly just move stuff around. The neighbors in that brick house are old folks who are leasing. They depend on us to maintain the road and bridge etc., and get veggies. He likes to mow our grass down there on his ride-on and pile it up for us. Flat yards are pretty rare around here - they cut hay across the road though. It is about .5 acre or a little more out of 2 total. That whole lower section was 12' tall roses and shit before we bush hogged it down. This is part of the actual yard - http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/summer%2008/PICT0144.jpg~original You must be north or west of me. Nice territory where you are at. |
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. Around here, the neighbors would complain if I tore up that much of my yard! Very nice! Do you have a problem with worms eating your cabbage heads? I pull over a dozen green ones off of my cabbage heads every day. What do you treat them with? I don't really treat anything ever and haven't had that problem with cabbage (knock on wood). I've sprayed neem on some really young stuff just to get it through the wimpy stage but I mostly just move stuff around. The neighbors in that brick house are old folks who are leasing. They depend on us to maintain the road and bridge etc., and get veggies. He likes to mow our grass down there on his ride-on and pile it up for us. Flat yards are pretty rare around here - they cut hay across the road though. It is about .5 acre or a little more out of 2 total. That whole lower section was 12' tall roses and shit before we bush hogged it down. This is part of the actual yard - http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/summer%2008/PICT0144.jpg~original You must be north or west of me. Nice territory where you are at. Thanks. If I go west I can be in TN in 20 min.. - pretty nice over on that side too. |
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Quoted: Slugs can eat lots of things, to the ground. The big ones, feast on radishes, turnips and other veggie produce as well. I usually have a free beer party for them. They drink, get drunk, fall into the traps, then drown. I sleep well knowing that they are in the "drunk tank". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: All of my spinach plants got eaten to the ground last night.... Doh! What happened? Slugs or wildlife? http://m0.i.pbase.com/g9/72/325172/2/156972810.HCdZUN2O.jpg Slugs can eat lots of things, to the ground. The big ones, feast on radishes, turnips and other veggie produce as well. I usually have a free beer party for them. They drink, get drunk, fall into the traps, then drown. I sleep well knowing that they are in the "drunk tank". After application of these two products, whatever was munching down on my sprouting garden has decreased by at least 90%! Things are growing again.... |
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So I might be growing corn? Earlier in this thread, I mentioned how one of my dogs knocked over a couple of my seed flats. I scooped up as much of the potting mix as I could back in, added more, replanted what had been knocked out. Speed up to now, I have several "things" growing out of the flats that I kinda thought was a flower, but am convinced is a weed that may have gotten into my potting soil from last year that I used this year, but it does kinda resemble the young corn in this thread. Here's my "problem". It's also showed up in the flat that did not get knocked over. So...either they are weeds that got into the soil, or some critter buried corn in the potting soil somewhere along the line. View Quote Probably Johnson grass. |
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Any ideas on a product to isolate tomato and pepper flowers to prevent cross pollination? I tried to find a hair net locally, but no luck. Ended up with some nylon netting (tulle?) from Hobby Lobby. It looks like it may work, but it's ugly and very difficult to get over the flowers and tie to the stem.
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Success! After application of these two products, whatever was munching down on my sprouting garden has decreased by at least 90%! Things are growing again.... BTW, the stink of that Repels-All repels even me.... http://m7.i.pbase.com/o9/72/325172/1/160382337.9WY8sMp9.GardenPests.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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All of my spinach plants got eaten to the ground last night.... Doh! What happened? Slugs or wildlife? http://m0.i.pbase.com/g9/72/325172/2/156972810.HCdZUN2O.jpg Slugs can eat lots of things, to the ground. The big ones, feast on radishes, turnips and other veggie produce as well. I usually have a free beer party for them. They drink, get drunk, fall into the traps, then drown. I sleep well knowing that they are in the "drunk tank". After application of these two products, whatever was munching down on my sprouting garden has decreased by at least 90%! Things are growing again.... BTW, the stink of that Repels-All repels even me.... http://m7.i.pbase.com/o9/72/325172/1/160382337.9WY8sMp9.GardenPests.jpg How does that stuff work on green worms and such, on cauliflower and cabbage plants? |
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. View Quote Really nice set-up you have there. So your telling me that weeding only takes four hours if you have Asian Hoes? Where do I get one? |
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. Really nice set-up you have there. So your telling me that weeding only takes four hours if you have Asian Hoes? Where do I get one? |
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Pretty much everything except tomatoes (blight is killer here) which we trade corn for. Electric fence for deer and bunnies all the way around. We use 10-10-10 and everything else is organic. We tilled and plowed with the tractor. Cultivating and weeding is all manual - I really prefer the Asian hoes. It takes about 4 hrs. to do the whole garden. The sharp light ones are very efficient. I think I am going to get a round of hay to mulch it though. Lettuce, collards, mustard, mesclun grill mix, cauliflower, cabbage, lots of silver queen, lots of potatoes (purple sweet, orange sweet, red, all blue, purple molly, yellow finn, rose fleshed), summer squash, winter squash, pumpkins, big patch of sunflowers, cukes, beets, carrots (maybe), radishes, tomatillas, peanuts, asparagus, hops, bunch of other stuff I can't recall. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100145%20copy_zpsbhh45lhy.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100169%20copy_zpssekutbuz.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100162%20copy_zpsmwqwtc4v.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100160%20copy_zpsnwd90wt8.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100159%20copy_zpsg44m1cvl.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100155%20copy_zpsv1miolvr.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100167%20copy_zpsl4v0nx0c.jpg~original http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc111/mycologist/garden%202015/P7100143%202%20copy_zps1e9uiobm.jpg~original I'm starting more raspberry cuttings and hops this year, and fruit trees next year. Really nice set-up you have there. So your telling me that weeding only takes four hours if you have Asian Hoes? Where do I get one? Yes, you need several for a consortium. Thanks BTW. |
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Quoted: Started gardening 2 years ago. We have 3 4'x16' raised beds with dirt we've worked for a couple years (cover crop of barely that got tilled in, compost we made on site, adding peat moss). Also tilled up 4 8'x8' beds in the yard and seasoned over the winter with compost from our chicken coop. Gardening is the most rewarding work I've ever done and we're going to expand. We believe the American people are literally returning to their roots and we are thankful to be a part of it. We have also discovered that "green" people don't know shit, get your gardening advise from people that actually produce results then figure out what works at your latitude. View Quote I've noticed that too, for the most part. Roundup is supposed to be the devil but I use it in my yard if I need it. I also spray for bugs on occasion. I try to not go overboard, if I had a large plot of land I would probably spray more out of need. |
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Hot peppers. I got 2 jalapeño, 2 bell, and 1 cayenne plant plant running. The cayenne is already producing a ton of peppers, I'm hoping for a big yield. Last year I grew some ghost peppers but couldn't figure out what to do with them. I think I've still got 2 dozen of em in the freezer, I may try and grind them into pepper flakes sometime
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Quoted: Anyone here had problems with those little green worms that showed up to eat your cabbage and cauliflower? Picked a bunch of those persistent rascals off of my plants tonight. I hate using pesticides on anything in my garden. I avoid it at all costs but at times, I know that there has got to be a better way to control pests, than constant surveillance and squashing unwanted " guests ", that show up every year. How are you folks handling produce eaters? View Quote I had good luck with the liquid bacillis stuff. It pretty much took care of the caterpillers! In the past I've had big problems with leaf footed bugs. They are the devil. Then I read they are attracted to sunflowers. I also noticed that they clustered on the tops of zinnias. I love to have a couple mammoth sunflowers in my garden but the only flowers I have this year are impatients (for prettyness) and marigolds. I've not noticed the leaf footed bugs. |
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Heavy rains and flooding to the upper edge of my raised beds may have killed off all of my tomato plants. They look pretty droopy right now. I guess I'm going to have to make the beds taller for next year. Any idea if I can root cuttings from my tomatoes while they're in this condition? ETA- This is way off topic, but I'm really thinking about building a dirt berm around my backyard perimeter. The field behind me drains everything to the last 6-7 feet of my yard. Last year my beds were tall enough to handle it, but I think I'm losing plants in at least two beds this year. I wonder if the city will give me a hard time about doing this. The berms would be 3-4 ft tall and covered with wood chips. I'll probably plant them with fruit trees and bushes. |
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Shit. Heavy rains and flooding to the upper edge of my raised beds may have killed off all of my tomato plants. They look pretty droopy right now. I guess I'm going to have to make the beds taller for next year. Any idea if I can root cuttings from my tomatoes while they're in this condition? ETA- This is way off topic, but I'm really thinking about building a dirt berm around my backyard perimeter. The field behind me drains everything to the last 6-7 feet of my yard. Last year my beds were tall enough to handle it, but I think I'm losing plants in at least two beds this year. I wonder if the city will give me a hard time about doing this. The berms would be 3-4 ft tall and covered with wood chips. I'll probably plant them with fruit trees and bushes. View Quote Is the field behind you higher than your raised beds? You might be better off trying to improve drainage than the berms, because it's possible the water just might eventually seep through a berm or go around them. |
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Shit. Heavy rains and flooding to the upper edge of my raised beds may have killed off all of my tomato plants. They look pretty droopy right now. I guess I'm going to have to make the beds taller for next year. Any idea if I can root cuttings from my tomatoes while they're in this condition? ETA- This is way off topic, but I'm really thinking about building a dirt berm around my backyard perimeter. The field behind me drains everything to the last 6-7 feet of my yard. Last year my beds were tall enough to handle it, but I think I'm losing plants in at least two beds this year. I wonder if the city will give me a hard time about doing this. The berms would be 3-4 ft tall and covered with wood chips. I'll probably plant them with fruit trees and bushes. Is the field behind you higher than your raised beds? You might be better off trying to improve drainage than the berms, because it's possible the water just might eventually seep through a berm or go around them. Yeah, the land gradually rises upwards. Im picturing a berm in the shape of a staple on its side. I don't mind if the water seeps through as I would welcome the gradual irrigation. It only gets bad like this for about a week every year. Also, the tomatoes don't look any worse than they did yesterday, but we got more thunderstorms early this morning and the water level is up a few inches again. I really hope I don't lose those plants. They're the biggest of all my tomatoes so far. |
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Here's some shots of my garden: Here's an overall shot of the veggie garden area. Yes, my lawn needs mowing, but it always seems to be wet when I have time. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden1.jpg Here's a closeup of 4 tomato plants around a bucket full of compost. The bucket has a bunch of holes drilled around perimeter of the bottom, and more around the rim just above the dirt. I got the idea from an organic gardening website, BUT I think I may have put the plants in too far from the bucket. But they aren't doing as well as the plants in the Mel's mix I'm using in another bed and in a pot. I did put a scoop of compost/manure around each plant though. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden2.jpg But compare those this picture, of a single tomato plant I put in a pot of "Mel's mix" from square foot gardening. All the tomato plants are from the same batch of seedlings. Much better in the mix than plain dirt (and a scoop of compost/manure). http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden3.jpg And here's a pic of the bed I converted from dirt to "Mel's Mix". It's 12' x 3'. All the plants are doing better than the plain dirt. I still need to put up the trellis at the back. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden5.jpg View Quote Miracle Grow is MUCH better than poop in a bucket. I promise. |
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All of my tomatoes came back from their water logged death except one. It may still make it, but I'm guessing root rot in the end. Probably best to pull it out.
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I'm down to 5 raised beds in my garden area. I tried to plant less tomato plants, I like indeterminates and the vines get out of control by the middle of the season. I'm not sure if it was the rock dust I added or what but this was my few tomato plants a couple weeks ago. It's even more ridiculous now. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8889/18439888298_9e357011e5.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8866/18439981570_a4d59551a6.jpg This is a few of the same bed from the other side. The other things are eggplants. A caterpillar infestation had started but I treated with bacillus and they died. We've had rain and the vines are so thick I was worried about alternaria blight, I actually lost one plant to it early in the season, and treated with copper. The tomatoes are trickling in, there are quite a few green ones so hopefully nothing bad will happen and I'll get piles of maters. Peppers have been doing great! Check out this jalapeno the size of a soda can!! https://farm1.staticflickr.com/561/18625077600_2f4e494bf4.jpg So I ordered some more glacial rock dust, azomite, and green sand. It helps with helping with water retention and texture of the soil if nothing else. I also have a swiss chard bed and I pulled up my mustard greens that have gone to seed. In the ex-mustard seed bed I put a couple suckers I pruned from my indeterminates. They will grow into whole new tomates, and they are! At first they wilt and you think they are dead but soon they perk up. I have a bed of 4 smaller tomatos coming along. I will probably get second crop after the first ones become a pile of vines. View Quote Those are GREAT photos! Thank you for putting them up! I hope that your results are as good this year as then! Awhile back, I added peat moss for water retention, sawdust, wood ash and Black Kow brand processed cow manure. The plants seem to love the ingredients but the corn seems to grow shorter every year. I use 46-0-0 nitrogen additive for the corn so I think that a soil test may be in order. I am missing something somewhere for the corn. The beans and `maters do like the present soil conditions though. |
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We got a big garden this year. Probably a fifth of an acre. four or five types of Potatoes, three typesof sweet potatoes, summer and winter squashs, cucumbers, melons, corn, green and dry beans, tomatoes, peppers, greens of all different kinds, Okra. In july I am going to plant turnips, rutabagas and big chinese winter radishes that get as big as a turnip and have more of peppery favor to them then turnips do.
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Actually some of the canning done in the past is unsafe. I can meat, it's a fun hobby! I can my venison and also meat I get from the store. It's actually very easy, you need a pressure canner of course. In choosing one, try to avoid the ones that have a pressure guage only. A jiggler only is OK. Both is idea. Canning jam is an art, all the pectin and temps and stuff. Canning meat is easy, and made easier by properly pressure canning it. I can mine raw, some people brown it. The times and other parts of the process is the same. The blue book of canning is a good safe guide that every canner should own. Basically it's this: *put meat in jars *add liquid up to the proper level (some people dry pack the meat since it make's it's own liquid but meat sticking out is icky and I make gravy so I add the water or tomato juice) *tighten the rings to the proper level. You don't want them too tight, but you don't want them too loose. They have to vent while they are heating. The books describe it better. *put water in your canner, I add water to about an inch, maybe a little more up the jars. *close the lid and turn on the heat. *VENT FOR 10 MINUTES. This is important. Don't put the jiggler on just yet, all the air has to be expelled for the proper temp to be achieved. You just turn up that heat and when steam comes out of the vent tube, start your timer. It will be shooting out pretty good by the end of 10 minutes. *put your jiggler on. In my area it calls for 10 lbs of pressure. The jiggler will probably show 11 lbs on the gauge. The jiggler does all the work, it's awesome! *It's going to take awhile for the canner to come to pressure. Once that jiggler starts you can start your timer. It doesn't need to jiggle constantly, as the contents heat the jiggler will jiggle more and you can adjust your heat. I probably adjust mine 2 or 3 times throughout the process. *DING! 90 minutes for quarts, 1hr 15 minutes for pints. Now you can turn the heat off. It will take awhile to depressurize. You don't want to hurry this, that's where people run into problems. NEVER EVER take the jiggler off before it goes to zero. This will cause the jars to explode. This is why it's great to also have a guage. * After it reaches zero, remove the jiggler. If you wait too long to take it off sometimes a vaccum will form and lock the lid on and even deform the canner. The over pressure plug on my old national #7 has a metal thing in the middle that pops up and down which is awesome because it prevents that. Also loosen the lid *I wait 5 or 10 minutes after it's loosened to removed it and even then it's kind of just propped up. Keep in mind that the liquid in the jars is superheated and over the boiling point. *I wait another 5 or 10 minutes to remove the lid. You may hear the sweet sweet sound of jar lids pinging as they seal. You can very carefully remove the jars with your jar grabber thing. It's best to just let them set overnight before you move them. You may notice boiling in jars that are not very hot. It's a wierd canning thing. That's pretty much it. It sounds like more work than it is, it's just time consuming between steps. After the jars are done I take the rings off and clean them before I store them. Here is a shot of some pints of stew beef. There is some fat on top, venison won't have that. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3893/14618870070_474e5c03ec.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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<snip> You ever can any meat? No--always use a deep freeze for meat. We bought a half a beef, and an occasional hog, every year when I was growing up, and I've kept myself supplied with venison since I've been grown. Dawg! I`ve heard that one can can meat. Never tried it. I am thinking that it is becoming a lost art. Thank you for commenting this evening and I have enjoyed speaking with you and others in this thread! Actually some of the canning done in the past is unsafe. I can meat, it's a fun hobby! I can my venison and also meat I get from the store. It's actually very easy, you need a pressure canner of course. In choosing one, try to avoid the ones that have a pressure guage only. A jiggler only is OK. Both is idea. Canning jam is an art, all the pectin and temps and stuff. Canning meat is easy, and made easier by properly pressure canning it. I can mine raw, some people brown it. The times and other parts of the process is the same. The blue book of canning is a good safe guide that every canner should own. Basically it's this: *put meat in jars *add liquid up to the proper level (some people dry pack the meat since it make's it's own liquid but meat sticking out is icky and I make gravy so I add the water or tomato juice) *tighten the rings to the proper level. You don't want them too tight, but you don't want them too loose. They have to vent while they are heating. The books describe it better. *put water in your canner, I add water to about an inch, maybe a little more up the jars. *close the lid and turn on the heat. *VENT FOR 10 MINUTES. This is important. Don't put the jiggler on just yet, all the air has to be expelled for the proper temp to be achieved. You just turn up that heat and when steam comes out of the vent tube, start your timer. It will be shooting out pretty good by the end of 10 minutes. *put your jiggler on. In my area it calls for 10 lbs of pressure. The jiggler will probably show 11 lbs on the gauge. The jiggler does all the work, it's awesome! *It's going to take awhile for the canner to come to pressure. Once that jiggler starts you can start your timer. It doesn't need to jiggle constantly, as the contents heat the jiggler will jiggle more and you can adjust your heat. I probably adjust mine 2 or 3 times throughout the process. *DING! 90 minutes for quarts, 1hr 15 minutes for pints. Now you can turn the heat off. It will take awhile to depressurize. You don't want to hurry this, that's where people run into problems. NEVER EVER take the jiggler off before it goes to zero. This will cause the jars to explode. This is why it's great to also have a guage. * After it reaches zero, remove the jiggler. If you wait too long to take it off sometimes a vaccum will form and lock the lid on and even deform the canner. The over pressure plug on my old national #7 has a metal thing in the middle that pops up and down which is awesome because it prevents that. Also loosen the lid *I wait 5 or 10 minutes after it's loosened to removed it and even then it's kind of just propped up. Keep in mind that the liquid in the jars is superheated and over the boiling point. *I wait another 5 or 10 minutes to remove the lid. You may hear the sweet sweet sound of jar lids pinging as they seal. You can very carefully remove the jars with your jar grabber thing. It's best to just let them set overnight before you move them. You may notice boiling in jars that are not very hot. It's a wierd canning thing. That's pretty much it. It sounds like more work than it is, it's just time consuming between steps. After the jars are done I take the rings off and clean them before I store them. Here is a shot of some pints of stew beef. There is some fat on top, venison won't have that. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3893/14618870070_474e5c03ec.jpg You make it sound so easy. I guess maybe that I am over thinking the whole process. |
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I wish I would have kept up with this thread better. I had good luck with the liquid bacillis stuff. It pretty much took care of the caterpillers! In the past I've had big problems with leaf footed bugs. They are the devil. Then I read they are attracted to sunflowers. I also noticed that they clustered on the tops of zinnias. I love to have a couple mammoth sunflowers in my garden but the only flowers I have this year are impatients (for prettyness) and marigolds. I've not noticed the leaf footed bugs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone here had problems with those little green worms that showed up to eat your cabbage and cauliflower? Picked a bunch of those persistent rascals off of my plants tonight. I hate using pesticides on anything in my garden. I avoid it at all costs but at times, I know that there has got to be a better way to control pests, than constant surveillance and squashing unwanted " guests ", that show up every year. How are you folks handling produce eaters? I had good luck with the liquid bacillis stuff. It pretty much took care of the caterpillers! In the past I've had big problems with leaf footed bugs. They are the devil. Then I read they are attracted to sunflowers. I also noticed that they clustered on the tops of zinnias. I love to have a couple mammoth sunflowers in my garden but the only flowers I have this year are impatients (for prettyness) and marigolds. I've not noticed the leaf footed bugs. I have been using Bt that is an organic based solution that is a bacteria formula instead of chemical. Safe to use all of the way up to harvest. Interesting design. This is the first year of using it and my beans aren`t getting eaten u by MBBs`. It was always a race in the past, to see which one of us would win. I hate using sprays. |
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Here's some shots of my garden: Here's an overall shot of the veggie garden area. Yes, my lawn needs mowing, but it always seems to be wet when I have time. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden1.jpg Here's a closeup of 4 tomato plants around a bucket full of compost. The bucket has a bunch of holes drilled around perimeter of the bottom, and more around the rim just above the dirt. I got the idea from an organic gardening website, BUT I think I may have put the plants in too far from the bucket. But they aren't doing as well as the plants in the Mel's mix I'm using in another bed and in a pot. I did put a scoop of compost/manure around each plant though. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden2.jpg But compare those this picture, of a single tomato plant I put in a pot of "Mel's mix" from square foot gardening. All the tomato plants are from the same batch of seedlings. Much better in the mix than plain dirt (and a scoop of compost/manure). http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden3.jpg And here's a pic of the bed I converted from dirt to "Mel's Mix". It's 12' x 3'. All the plants are doing better than the plain dirt. I still need to put up the trellis at the back. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden5.jpg View Quote Thanks for the photos! I hope that everything goes well for you this year! |
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Here's some shots of my garden: Here's an overall shot of the veggie garden area. Yes, my lawn needs mowing, but it always seems to be wet when I have time. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden1.jpg Here's a closeup of 4 tomato plants around a bucket full of compost. The bucket has a bunch of holes drilled around perimeter of the bottom, and more around the rim just above the dirt. I got the idea from an organic gardening website, BUT I think I may have put the plants in too far from the bucket. But they aren't doing as well as the plants in the Mel's mix I'm using in another bed and in a pot. I did put a scoop of compost/manure around each plant though. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden2.jpg But compare those this picture, of a single tomato plant I put in a pot of "Mel's mix" from square foot gardening. All the tomato plants are from the same batch of seedlings. Much better in the mix than plain dirt (and a scoop of compost/manure). http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden3.jpg And here's a pic of the bed I converted from dirt to "Mel's Mix". It's 12' x 3'. All the plants are doing better than the plain dirt. I still need to put up the trellis at the back. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden5.jpg Miracle Grow is MUCH better than poop in a bucket. I promise. I like the poop better than chemicals. Processed and freezed dried stuff works well here. Don`t ban me Bro`! Just harrassing you! |
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My "bucket" 'maters are doing good!This pic was taken last week, the plants are now over the top of the cages. http://m2.i.pbase.com/o9/72/325172/1/160516932.DHMysuFk.Garden_800_1.jpg View Quote I like your photos! I want to find someone who has some empty "mud" buckets available. I want to try some `taters" in them. |
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We got a big garden this year. Probably a fifth of an acre. four or five types of Potatoes, three typesof sweet potatoes, summer and winter squashs, cucumbers, melons, corn, green and dry beans, tomatoes, peppers, greens of all different kinds, Okra. In july I am going to plant turnips, rutabagas and big chinese winter radishes that get as big as a turnip and have more of peppery favor to them then turnips do. I like them in stir fries. View Quote You have a nice combination of veggies going in your locality! Thank you for posting and I hope that your garden is productive for you this year! |
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Here's some shots of my garden: Here's an overall shot of the veggie garden area. Yes, my lawn needs mowing, but it always seems to be wet when I have time. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden1.jpg Here's a closeup of 4 tomato plants around a bucket full of compost. The bucket has a bunch of holes drilled around perimeter of the bottom, and more around the rim just above the dirt. I got the idea from an organic gardening website, BUT I think I may have put the plants in too far from the bucket. But they aren't doing as well as the plants in the Mel's mix I'm using in another bed and in a pot. I did put a scoop of compost/manure around each plant though. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden2.jpg But compare those this picture, of a single tomato plant I put in a pot of "Mel's mix" from square foot gardening. All the tomato plants are from the same batch of seedlings. Much better in the mix than plain dirt (and a scoop of compost/manure). http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden3.jpg And here's a pic of the bed I converted from dirt to "Mel's Mix". It's 12' x 3'. All the plants are doing better than the plain dirt. I still need to put up the trellis at the back. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden5.jpg Miracle Grow is MUCH better than poop in a bucket. I promise. I like the poop better than chemicals. Processed and freezed dried stuff works well here. Don`t ban me Bro`! Just harrassing you! People have gone crazy obsessing over "chemicals" and such. The fact is, plants don't know the difference between N,P, and K derived from petroleum or poop. They are elements--molecules. |
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Here's some shots of my garden: Here's an overall shot of the veggie garden area. Yes, my lawn needs mowing, but it always seems to be wet when I have time. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden1.jpg Here's a closeup of 4 tomato plants around a bucket full of compost. The bucket has a bunch of holes drilled around perimeter of the bottom, and more around the rim just above the dirt. I got the idea from an organic gardening website, BUT I think I may have put the plants in too far from the bucket. But they aren't doing as well as the plants in the Mel's mix I'm using in another bed and in a pot. I did put a scoop of compost/manure around each plant though. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden2.jpg But compare those this picture, of a single tomato plant I put in a pot of "Mel's mix" from square foot gardening. All the tomato plants are from the same batch of seedlings. Much better in the mix than plain dirt (and a scoop of compost/manure). http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden3.jpg And here's a pic of the bed I converted from dirt to "Mel's Mix". It's 12' x 3'. All the plants are doing better than the plain dirt. I still need to put up the trellis at the back. http://webpages.charter.net/rcav8r/images/garden5.jpg Miracle Grow is MUCH better than poop in a bucket. I promise. I like the poop better than chemicals. Processed and freezed dried stuff works well here. Don`t ban me Bro`! Just harrassing you! People have gone crazy obsessing over "chemicals" and such. The fact is, plants don't know the difference between N,P, and K derived from petroleum or poop. They are elements--molecules. Some days I am not sure which is better. Organic or chemical. Always makes me wonder. The organic compounds seem to make the plants heartier. Then again, I am working with a smaller plot than commercial folks have. |
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We got a big garden this year. Probably a fifth of an acre. four or five types of Potatoes, three typesof sweet potatoes, summer and winter squashs, cucumbers, melons, corn, green and dry beans, tomatoes, peppers, greens of all different kinds, Okra. In july I am going to plant turnips, rutabagas and big chinese winter radishes that get as big as a turnip and have more of peppery favor to them then turnips do. I like them in stir fries. You have a nice combination of veggies going in your locality! Thank you for posting and I hope that your garden is productive for you this year! your welcome and thank you in return. I'll post some pictures in here some time. I plant more stuff (corn, green beans, greens, etc) every 2 to 4 weeks, so I have a supply of stuff until frost. I also do a cold frame for greens in the winter. I should do a write up on the process. Having fresh greens in january is nice. |
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