252,000 allied troops would become casualties in what would be Churchill's darkest hour.  It would push him, of his own volition, into the trenches on the western front.  Fate, though, would show that Gallipoli was a lesson to be learned as Operation Overlord would show 29 years later.





IIRC, most of the issue of the campaign arent lack of technology or the right troops to complete the mission but the lack of discipline and quick mindedness of the commissioned officers.

 

For what ANZAC Day has come to represent for our Aussie and Kiwi brothers and sisters:

come on guys, ww1 threads always turn out awesome..

100 years....

The pregame ceremony was pretty moving before the AFL game (currently airing live on Fox Sports 2)

Churchill gets to much blame for that campaign. The problems came when the admirals wouldn't accept losses and to force the strait.  Losses of ships that were outdated and useless for pretty much anything else.

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I read an ANZAC website years ago about the cemeteries there. The families ordered tombstones and a certain amount of text was allowed to be engraved in addition to the usual information on a military tombstone. The script on the tombstones was heart breaking, you got a sense that the folks in AUS/NZ had no idea of the lethality of The Great War or how effective Johnny Turk would be at killing their sons. It must have been a good while after the battle was over and the families had found out that their loved one was a casualty. That they ordered the stones from the Gov.? to be placed on the graves in far away Dardanelles.   The little messages were literally chiseled into the marble with tears, as the families messages on the stones indicated that they had not yet come to terms with the loss. I had saved it to my favorites but it was no longer available when I last tried to open it so I deleted the link, it was very interesting.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Gallipoli.

All aboard the fail boat. It was a cluster fuk from the word go. Blame the navy or Churchill it was one of the biggest military blunders of all time.

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Just watched Gallipoli From Above. Not bad.

 ANZAC Day is the equivalent of our Memorial Day.  You know, a day originally designated to remember a battle or end of a war but becoming a broader day of remembrance?





"Anzac day is a national day of remembrance in Australia and New Zealand
that broadly commemorates all Australians and New Zealanders "who
served and died in all wars, conflicts, and peacekeeping operations" and
"the contribution and suffering of all those who have served.""





https://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/anzac/anzac-tradition/





dont be obtuse.





 

redNo kidding.

The video you posted has absolutely nothing to do with ANZAC Day.  It is from a funeral for three killed in Afghanistan.  

yes.  now, think about it.  New Zealanders doing the Haka for their fallen comrade.  I even made the important bit larger for you.