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Posted: 4/25/2015 3:20:30 AM EDT

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He was morally corrupt because he got caught getting a bj in the oval office (and allegedly hangs out on sex island)?

For all we know, George Bushed jacked off to tranny porn while massaging his own prostate with his thumb.

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Bill Clinton is an evil morally corupt leftist POS. He and his family are a pox on this country. He was lucky to be president at the collapse of the soviet union to cash in on the so-called peace dividend. None of his policies were responsible for the relative prosperity of the 90's. His crap administration helped launch the careers of other traitors such as his commie wife and that racist POS Eric Holder.

I despise him for the vile liberal douchebag that he is.

casting stones and all that.

The truth hurts and all that. Educate yourself on who this asshole is before posting something stupid.

He was morally corrupt because he got caught getting a bj in the oval office (and allegedly hangs out on sex island)?

For all we know, George Bushed jacked off to tranny porn while massaging his own prostate with his thumb.

Yeah for all we know right? BS

We do know your scum bag BF billy cheated on his scum bag wife and got caught (in the oval office)

instead of paying attention to his job and some terrorists plotting to hit the twin towers he was getting his dick sucked on our dime

Posted: 4/25/2015 3:22:18 AM EDT

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You never lied about getting (or not getting) some tail?

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I despise him.

Absolutely. They're both compulsive liars.

I don't think the words have been invented to describe just how much either one of the Klinton's disgust me.

Both he and that elitist, shrieking cunt that married him represent everything that's wrong with America.

Low rent pieces of shit.

You never lied about getting (or not getting) some tail?

We weren't the leader of the free world now were we?

By the way, trolling with stupid shit like this is easy huh?

I like to bat trolls around with facts

Posted: 4/25/2015 3:25:19 AM EDT

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There would have been no 9-11 without the Clinton cuts and foreign policy.

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He had a decent foreign policy.

Unlike the ISIS member that we currently have in office now.

You mean the foreign policy that inspired the movie "Wag the Dog"?

There would have been no 9-11 without the Clinton cuts and foreign policy.

yep, & intel budget too

Posted: 4/25/2015 3:25:43 AM EDT

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Pretty sure the mujahadeen grew to hate us after the soviets left AFG, but what do I know.

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He had a decent foreign policy.

Unlike the ISIS member that we currently have in office now.

You mean the foreign policy that inspired the movie "Wag the Dog"?

There would have been no 9-11 without the Clinton cuts and foreign policy.

Pretty sure the mujahadeen grew to hate us after the soviets left AFG, but what do I know.

not much

Posted: 4/25/2015 3:26:58 AM EDT

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yep, & intel budget too

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He had a decent foreign policy.

Unlike the ISIS member that we currently have in office now.

You mean the foreign policy that inspired the movie "Wag the Dog"?

There would have been no 9-11 without the Clinton cuts and foreign policy.

yep, & intel budget too

That would fall under "Clinton cuts".

Posted: 4/25/2015 3:37:54 AM EDT

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Hey,

the hell with all you guys. I never said I voted for the man nor supported all of his positions. I'm sitting here behind enemy lines while all you fuckers tell me I need to pick up to move to a free state. I'm fighting the good fight here and staying here...because it's my home. I've given more than my fair share to pro 2A groups and am doing what I can from where I am. So don't fucking disrespect me because I stated an opinion.

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Why wouldn't you? You're from NY. Most people like you, do as well. Aimless is not like you.

Hey,

the hell with all you guys. I never said I voted for the man nor supported all of his positions. I'm sitting here behind enemy lines while all you fuckers tell me I need to pick up to move to a free state. I'm fighting the good fight here and staying here...because it's my home. I've given more than my fair share to pro 2A groups and am doing what I can from where I am. So don't fucking disrespect me because I stated an opinion.

BS

you support a fucking scum bag gun grabber who cost us 9/11

What does that make you?

Don't like the harsh comments from guys who have been fighting gun grabbers all our lives then don't fucking troll us and then cry about it.

Posted: 4/25/2015 3:38:17 AM EDT

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Aloha, Mark

Posted: 4/25/2015 4:21:31 AM EDT

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you support a fucking scum bag gun grabber who cost us 9/11
What does that make you?
Don't like the harsh comments from guys who have been fighting gun grabbers all our lives then don't fucking troll us and then cry about it.

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Why wouldn't you? You're from NY. Most people like you, do as well. Aimless is not like you.

Hey,

the hell with all you guys. I never said I voted for the man nor supported all of his positions. I'm sitting here behind enemy lines while all you fuckers tell me I need to pick up to move to a free state. I'm fighting the good fight here and staying here...because it's my home. I've given more than my fair share to pro 2A groups and am doing what I can from where I am. So don't fucking disrespect me because I stated an opinion.

BS
you support a fucking scum bag gun grabber who cost us 9/11
What does that make you?
Don't like the harsh comments from guys who have been fighting gun grabbers all our lives then don't fucking troll us and then cry about it.

Insert Morgan Freeman "He's Right You Know Meme."

Posted: 4/25/2015 4:28:57 AM EDT

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Insert Morgan Freeman "He's Right You Know Meme."

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Why wouldn't you? You're from NY. Most people like you, do as well. Aimless is not like you.

Hey,

the hell with all you guys. I never said I voted for the man nor supported all of his positions. I'm sitting here behind enemy lines while all you fuckers tell me I need to pick up to move to a free state. I'm fighting the good fight here and staying here...because it's my home. I've given more than my fair share to pro 2A groups and am doing what I can from where I am. So don't fucking disrespect me because I stated an opinion.

BS
you support a fucking scum bag gun grabber who cost us 9/11
What does that make you?
Don't like the harsh comments from guys who have been fighting gun grabbers all our lives then don't fucking troll us and then cry about it.

Insert Morgan Freeman "He's Right You Know Meme."

Says the guy who thought his foreign policy wasn't bad......

Posted: 4/25/2015 6:20:51 AM EDT

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Still do. Flame suit zipped up and hard hat on.

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The man had skillz, but he used them for evil. EEEEEVILLLLL.

If, instead of going into law/politics, he'd moved to the Caribbean and become a sailor-for-hire, he would have been Captain Ron.

Posted: 4/25/2015 7:39:54 AM EDT

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This... And needs ban

Posted: 4/25/2015 7:58:59 AM EDT

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Others and myself have been saying it for years.

They're either purposely being deceitful about who they are and what they believe with the intent to spread misinformation, or they're simpletons that can't come to grips that they're ideological beliefs are straight up progressive.

Being labeled a liberal carries a stigma that many are uncomfortable with for obvious reasons.

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I guess there really are liberals infesting this site.

Others and myself have been saying it for years.

They're either purposely being deceitful about who they are and what they believe with the intent to spread misinformation, or they're simpletons that can't come to grips that they're ideological beliefs are straight up progressive.

Being labeled a liberal carries a stigma that many are uncomfortable with for obvious reasons.

Or maybe not everyone that supports the 2A agrees with you on everything else in the world of politics. Maybe they don't say anything because of all the intellegence discourse in GD. Maybe they are tired of the GOP lips service. Maybe they are tired of the patriot act. Maybe they realized that both parties are cashing the same checks for campains. Maybe they don't like that corporate donations pay more to support the houses than the taxes payers do. Maybe they don't like elephants.

Who knows why. This is a gun site and as long as you support that I guess your part of the club.

I swear the Dems could move their position on gun control and make the GOP irrelevant in an election cycle.

Posted: 4/25/2015 8:03:28 AM EDT

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Or maybe not everyone that supports the 2A agrees with you on everything else in the world of politics. Maybe they don't say anything because of all the intellegence discourse in GD. Maybe they are tired of the GOP lips service. Maybe they are tired of the patriot act. Maybe they realized that both parties are cashing the same checks for campains. Maybe they don't like that corporate donations pay more to support the houses than the taxes payers do. Maybe they don't like elephants.

Who knows why. This is a gun site and as long as you support that I guess your part of the club.

I swear the Dems could move their position on gun control and make the GOP irrelevant in an election cycle.

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I guess there really are liberals infesting this site.

Others and myself have been saying it for years.

They're either purposely being deceitful about who they are and what they believe with the intent to spread misinformation, or they're simpletons that can't come to grips that they're ideological beliefs are straight up progressive.

Being labeled a liberal carries a stigma that many are uncomfortable with for obvious reasons.

Or maybe not everyone that supports the 2A agrees with you on everything else in the world of politics. Maybe they don't say anything because of all the intellegence discourse in GD. Maybe they are tired of the GOP lips service. Maybe they are tired of the patriot act. Maybe they realized that both parties are cashing the same checks for campains. Maybe they don't like that corporate donations pay more to support the houses than the taxes payers do. Maybe they don't like elephants.

Who knows why. This is a gun site and as long as you support that I guess your part of the club.

I swear the Dems could move their position on gun control and make the GOP irrelevant in an election cycle.

They would lose their base, just like the Republicans would if they just "moved their position" on abortion.

Posted: 4/25/2015 8:12:08 AM EDT

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They would lose their base, just like the Republicans would if they just "moved their position" on abortion.

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I guess there really are liberals infesting this site.

Others and myself have been saying it for years.

They're either purposely being deceitful about who they are and what they believe with the intent to spread misinformation, or they're simpletons that can't come to grips that they're ideological beliefs are straight up progressive.

Being labeled a liberal carries a stigma that many are uncomfortable with for obvious reasons.

Or maybe not everyone that supports the 2A agrees with you on everything else in the world of politics. Maybe they don't say anything because of all the intellegence discourse in GD. Maybe they are tired of the GOP lips service. Maybe they are tired of the patriot act. Maybe they realized that both parties are cashing the same checks for campains. Maybe they don't like that corporate donations pay more to support the houses than the taxes payers do. Maybe they don't like elephants.

Who knows why. This is a gun site and as long as you support that I guess your part of the club.

I swear the Dems could move their position on gun control and make the GOP irrelevant in an election cycle.

They would lose their base, just like the Republicans would if they just "moved their position" on abortion.

I wouldnt take that bet.

The right to abortion isn't specifically called out.

Posted: 4/25/2015 8:18:14 AM EDT

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I wouldnt take that bet.

The right to abortion isn't specifically called out.

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I guess there really are liberals infesting this site.

Others and myself have been saying it for years.

They're either purposely being deceitful about who they are and what they believe with the intent to spread misinformation, or they're simpletons that can't come to grips that they're ideological beliefs are straight up progressive.

Being labeled a liberal carries a stigma that many are uncomfortable with for obvious reasons.

Or maybe not everyone that supports the 2A agrees with you on everything else in the world of politics. Maybe they don't say anything because of all the intellegence discourse in GD. Maybe they are tired of the GOP lips service. Maybe they are tired of the patriot act. Maybe they realized that both parties are cashing the same checks for campains. Maybe they don't like that corporate donations pay more to support the houses than the taxes payers do. Maybe they don't like elephants.

Who knows why. This is a gun site and as long as you support that I guess your part of the club.

I swear the Dems could move their position on gun control and make the GOP irrelevant in an election cycle.

They would lose their base, just like the Republicans would if they just "moved their position" on abortion.

I wouldnt take that bet.

The right to abortion isn't specifically called out.

The right to be alive kind of is.

You don't have to agree with it, it's just fact. You lose the entire right if you take pro-life out of the republican party. they won't even come out to vote.

Posted: 4/25/2015 8:34:38 AM EDT

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The right to be alive kind of is.

You don't have to agree with it, it's just fact. You lose the entire right if you take pro-life out of the republican party. they won't even come out to vote.

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Others and myself have been saying it for years.

They're either purposely being deceitful about who they are and what they believe with the intent to spread misinformation, or they're simpletons that can't come to grips that they're ideological beliefs are straight up progressive.

Being labeled a liberal carries a stigma that many are uncomfortable with for obvious reasons.

Or maybe not everyone that supports the 2A agrees with you on everything else in the world of politics. Maybe they don't say anything because of all the intellegence discourse in GD. Maybe they are tired of the GOP lips service. Maybe they are tired of the patriot act. Maybe they realized that both parties are cashing the same checks for campains. Maybe they don't like that corporate donations pay more to support the houses than the taxes payers do. Maybe they don't like elephants.

Who knows why. This is a gun site and as long as you support that I guess your part of the club.

I swear the Dems could move their position on gun control and make the GOP irrelevant in an election cycle.

They would lose their base, just like the Republicans would if they just "moved their position" on abortion.

I wouldnt take that bet.

The right to abortion isn't specifically called out.

The right to be alive kind of is.

You don't have to agree with it, it's just fact. You lose the entire right if you take pro-life out of the republican party. they won't even come out to vote.

Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

Posted: 4/25/2015 8:42:24 AM EDT

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Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

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If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:10:01 AM EDT

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If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

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Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

Politicians always talk about hot button issues during the campaign but rarely take up hot button issues once the election is over well unless they are fund raising or campaigning again.

2a, abortion, gay marriage, immigration, voter id, etc are just dog whistles to bring out voters that would sit out otherwise. After watching years of elections and various administrations it's all just lip service to get in office once the election is over they work for who got them there, the big donors.

It's like american idol. They get to stand on the national stage and maybe they will be famous, meanwhile celo green just keeps cashing the checks season after season.

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:17:30 AM EDT

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Politicians always talk about hot button issues during the campaign but rarely take up hot button issues once the election is over well unless they are fund raising or campaigning again.

2a, abortion, gay marriage, immigration, voter id, etc are just dog whistles to bring out voters that would sit out otherwise. After watching years of elections and various administrations it's all just lip service to get in office once the election is over they work for who got them there, the big donors.

It's like american idol. They get to stand on the national stage and maybe they will be famous, meanwhile celo green just keeps cashing the checks season after season.

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Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

Politicians always talk about hot button issues during the campaign but rarely take up hot button issues once the election is over well unless they are fund raising or campaigning again.

2a, abortion, gay marriage, immigration, voter id, etc are just dog whistles to bring out voters that would sit out otherwise. After watching years of elections and various administrations it's all just lip service to get in office once the election is over they work for who got them there, the big donors.

It's like american idol. They get to stand on the national stage and maybe they will be famous, meanwhile celo green just keeps cashing the checks season after season.

Can't argue with that... But it doesn't invalidate the comments I made.

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:29:23 AM EDT

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Can't argue with that... But it doesn't invalidate the comments I made.

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Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

Politicians always talk about hot button issues during the campaign but rarely take up hot button issues once the election is over well unless they are fund raising or campaigning again.

2a, abortion, gay marriage, immigration, voter id, etc are just dog whistles to bring out voters that would sit out otherwise. After watching years of elections and various administrations it's all just lip service to get in office once the election is over they work for who got them there, the big donors.

It's like american idol. They get to stand on the national stage and maybe they will be famous, meanwhile celo green just keeps cashing the checks season after season.

Can't argue with that... But it doesn't invalidate the comments I made.

No sir it doesn't. I wasn't trying to explain it away, I was pointing out that we are being played, and nothing will change as long as we the american people keep falling for it.

I would also like to thank you for posting, it's nice to talk to someone about politics without all the BS.

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:36:04 AM EDT

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No sir it doesn't. I wasn't trying to explain it away, I was pointing out that we are being played, and nothing will change as long as we the american people keep falling for it.

I would also like to thank you for posting, it's nice to talk to someone about politics without all the BS.

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Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

Politicians always talk about hot button issues during the campaign but rarely take up hot button issues once the election is over well unless they are fund raising or campaigning again.

2a, abortion, gay marriage, immigration, voter id, etc are just dog whistles to bring out voters that would sit out otherwise. After watching years of elections and various administrations it's all just lip service to get in office once the election is over they work for who got them there, the big donors.

It's like american idol. They get to stand on the national stage and maybe they will be famous, meanwhile celo green just keeps cashing the checks season after season.

Can't argue with that... But it doesn't invalidate the comments I made.

No sir it doesn't. I wasn't trying to explain it away, I was pointing out that we are being played, and nothing will change as long as we the american people keep falling for it.

I would also like to thank you for posting, it's nice to talk to someone about politics without all the BS.

I agree completely -- the normal American voter is a fucking idiot who votes for the person who loudly says something he agrees with. I read somewhere that the most dangerous thing a politician can ever do is actually vote, because there is no upside -- everything they say can be explained away, a vote is always going to piss someone off.

Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:36:37 AM EDT

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Should be a capital offense.

In an ideal world, he would have been investigated, charged with treason, tried in court, and sentenced to death upon being found guilty.

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I liked someone who dodged the draft by scheming and lying so he could exit the Country to England.

I liked someone who raped several girls in England, then fled to the Soviet Union.

I liked someone who was pardoned by Jimmuh Carter for his Federal Felony of Selective Service evasion.

I liked someone who was a habitual drug user exempt from the law due to political status.

I liked someone who continued to use his position of power to rape and sodomize women.

I liked someone who let his "wife" conduct damage control with her Chicago organized crime tactics to squash any stories of his predatory nature.

I liked someone who ordered other people to lie to continue the cover-up of his crimes against women.

I liked someone who sold the Chinese our ballistic missile guidance technology, radio encryption, and high speed aircraft tooling technology.

I liked someone who took $800k in bribes from the Vietnamese so they could be lifted off the UN Embargo for human rights violations.

I liked someone who dropped the ball on protecting America during his sordid tenure in the White House.

I liked someone who repeatedly lied when questioned about the scandals surrounding his conduct.

I liked Bill Clinton - OP

Should be a capital offense.

In an ideal world, he would have been investigated, charged with treason, tried in court, and sentenced to death upon being found guilty.

You summed it up perfectly.
OP this is why clinton is immoral a d one of the worst presidents ever.
And now thanks to this scumbag the careers of his harpie wife, eric holder, deblasio, and many leftist America hating judges have been advanced. The only difference between clinton and our current jug-eared-varmint socialist pig president is that clinton was more pragmatic.
Clinton's only loyalty is to his bank account an d his own ego. People that support him are useful idiots.

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:53:43 AM EDT

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

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Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

Posted: 4/25/2015 9:55:34 AM EDT

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Crazy iPhone double post post.

Posted: 4/25/2015 10:05:50 AM EDT

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Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

Posted: 4/25/2015 10:20:08 AM EDT

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You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

I think that if the route isn't changed we will end up with the next form/incarnation of fascism. It will be a collusion of corporations to get their fair share of the American pie. And at this point the american people alone couldn't get G Washington himself elected.

Posted: 4/25/2015 11:39:11 AM EDT

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

I think that if the route isn't changed we will end up with the next form/incarnation of fascism. It will be a collusion of corporations to get their fair share of the American pie. And at this point the american people alone couldn't get G Washington himself elected.

Like Rome America has an immigration problem. Probably one of the biggest reasons Rome grew to the size it became and one of the biggest reasons it fell.

ETA: If you go to a mainly liberal site, I can tell you one thing, they hate G. Washington, and they don't care much for America. They want us to be more like Europe. Hence why we're becoming more like Europe.

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Quite the man...you are.

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Like Rome America has an immigration problem. Probably one of the biggest reasons Rome grew to the size it became and one of the biggest reasons it fell.

ETA: If you go to a mainly liberal site, I can tell you one thing, they hate G. Washington, and they don't care much for America. They want us to be more like Europe. Hence why we're becoming more like Europe.

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

I think that if the route isn't changed we will end up with the next form/incarnation of fascism. It will be a collusion of corporations to get their fair share of the American pie. And at this point the american people alone couldn't get G Washington himself elected.

Like Rome America has an immigration problem. Probably one of the biggest reasons Rome grew to the size it became and one of the biggest reasons it fell.

ETA: If you go to a mainly liberal site, I can tell you one thing, they hate G. Washington, and they don't care much for America. They want us to be more like Europe. Hence why we're becoming more like Europe.

I don't care what left sites think or what right sites think. They are both pawns in the same game, that's the problem.

Posted: 4/25/2015 12:13:25 PM EDT

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You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

It's interesting that when the Soviets decided to enact their plan to weaken America, they decided to make us socially liberal first, then complete the plan.

Posted: 4/25/2015 12:17:27 PM EDT

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

I think that if the route isn't changed we will end up with the next form/incarnation of fascism. It will be a collusion of corporations to get their fair share of the American pie. And at this point the american people alone couldn't get G Washington himself elected.

Clear something up for me. Is fascism left or right of center?

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Remember when Rumsfeld was excoriated in the media for his "you go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want" statement? Remember the media attacking the Bush administration with claims of "not giving out warriors the armor & equipment they need"?

I do. I also remember Clinton spending his entire presidency systematically gutting our armed forces - when he wasn't busy trying to destroy it with all the sensitivity training, DADT & general PC bullshit. He fucked over the military, and our intelligence community - leaving GWB a dysfunctional mess, and the OP should be kicked in the balls for carrying Clinton's water here.

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Anyone can balance the budget like he did, just cut defense spending.. (we dont need that part anyway, do we?) I can't remember how many bases he cut, but it was around 20% of our bases and new project funding..

OP is romanticizing the Clinton years.

Clinton was far right of Obama (and ironically, far right of where his wife would be)... but even there, he was far left of McCain (who isn't exactly RIGHT WING, himself)

Defense spending? Never heard of it.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/include/usgs_chart2p32.png

Remember when Rumsfeld was excoriated in the media for his "you go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want" statement? Remember the media attacking the Bush administration with claims of "not giving out warriors the armor & equipment they need"?

I do. I also remember Clinton spending his entire presidency systematically gutting our armed forces - when he wasn't busy trying to destroy it with all the sensitivity training, DADT & general PC bullshit. He fucked over the military, and our intelligence community - leaving GWB a dysfunctional mess, and the OP should be kicked in the balls for carrying Clinton's water here.

Yep. I remember those days well.

The clintoons fucked over our country and they clearly intend to do so again.

The OP is just another person that i have heard that bought the demoroach lies about the clinton presidency. I have met and read about many who have waxed poetic about this scumbag "president". Many of which who should know far better

The clinton's are favorably remembered solely from the great economy of the times, due of course, to the booming tech industry (Silicon Valley anyone?) and some seem to like him solely due to his extra-marital proclivities.

Posted: 4/25/2015 12:38:19 PM EDT

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OP, I know this.

I would like to have a dollar for every woman he has raped in his life.

I probably could then buy a new rifle.

Posted: 4/25/2015 12:40:29 PM EDT

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And those that supported them.

Posted: 4/25/2015 12:51:46 PM EDT

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He's celebrated by some for lying under oath. The when you say....he's a perjurer and liar....you get this look

They think it's "cool" that he got away with it. I've lost count how many times I've heard the line
"Bills a pimp"

if any of us lied under oath in a sworn deposition...we'd be in federal prison with the key thrown away.

FBC

Posted: 4/25/2015 12:53:05 PM EDT

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William J Clinton was the greatest enemy gun owners have ever faced. Obama does some EOs and runs his mouth, then tries to ram some legislation through

Clinton got an AWB passed. He came damn close to registration and banning of handguns
He's a liar and a perjurer. Thank god the democrats were defeated in '94

I shudder to think where the 2nd amendment would be right now if the perjurer had had 8 years and a democrat congress to rubber stamp his dissarment agenda.
I knew the passage of time would shadow his legacy of failure and corruption
Obama is such a disaster that the Clinton years are remembered fondly.....my god

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No. You are not dense nor unknowing of what you see here.
What with theft-ists/statist/communist/typical simpleton trolls and algorithms being used to sway public opinion both here and other forums, you get the trifecta of derp that has been prevalent lately.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:04:11 PM EDT

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Clear something up for me. Is fascism left or right of center?

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Then again, that's what our president did, vote "here, don't care" when he was in the legislature. It's far more important to make noise about an issue than do anything to fix it.

Now the question is what can we as a people do to actually to stop our country from becoming a corporate state which it is rapidly becoming ?

You can't. You should read about Rome when it started to become bigger. You'll never believe what happened to it.

Note: I believe socialism/Communism is inevitable in this country. Especially the libertarian/liberal social aspect which even though I myself believe in, do not think it's sustainable with a financial side of a libertarian coin, because people are not responsible enough. Once again read about Rome.

I think that if the route isn't changed we will end up with the next form/incarnation of fascism. It will be a collusion of corporations to get their fair share of the American pie. And at this point the american people alone couldn't get G Washington himself elected.

Clear something up for me. Is fascism left or right of center?

Lol. Is that supposed to sound cleaver ? That is all in who is defining it and which paticular incarnation of fascism we are discussing. Is it some how better if its your side standing on your neck ?

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Lol. Is that supposed to sound cleaver ? That is all in who is defining it and which paticular incarnation of fascism we are discussing. Is it some how better if its your side standing on your neck ?

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To you last question, not at all. To the rest of it, that's pretty much what I expected.
It doesn't matter who is explaining it. Fascism falls on the left of the political spectrum.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:18:55 PM EDT

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If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

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Believe me we agree that abortion is wrong and immoral. But I don't think the majority of voters would not turn out if it became a non issue. You are saying that of abortion was made illegal that the GOP would never win again because voters would nit show with out a hot button issue. If that's the case maybe the abortion issue and gun control are just used to wag the dog and will never be taken up as a serious discussion.

If it weren't an issue because it was as solved problem (as in it was outlawed), it wouldn't be an issue anymore. You would probably see some decline because of people who don't really care about any other issue, but it wouldn't be that big of a decline.

If the Republican party said "we don't care about being pro-life anymore", the republican base would reject them completely. Two different scenarios with different outcomes.

That presumes the "republican base" consists only of the pro-life crowd. I'm not entirely sure that's true - there is also a significant fiscal/defense hawk component in "the base." The hard part of course is figuring out the Venn diagram of those constituencies.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:22:11 PM EDT

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Should be a capital offense.

In an ideal world, he would have been investigated, charged with treason, tried in court, and sentenced to death upon being found guilty.

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I liked someone who dodged the draft by scheming and lying so he could exit the Country to England.

I liked someone who raped several girls in England, then fled to the Soviet Union.

I liked someone who was pardoned by Jimmuh Carter for his Federal Felony of Selective Service evasion.

I liked someone who was a habitual drug user exempt from the law due to political status.

I liked someone who continued to use his position of power to rape and sodomize women.

I liked someone who let his "wife" conduct damage control with her Chicago organized crime tactics to squash any stories of his predatory nature.

I liked someone who ordered other people to lie to continue the cover-up of his crimes against women.

I liked someone who sold the Chinese our ballistic missile guidance technology, radio encryption, and high speed aircraft tooling technology.

I liked someone who took $800k in bribes from the Vietnamese so they could be lifted off the UN Embargo for human rights violations.

I liked someone who dropped the ball on protecting America during his sordid tenure in the White House.

I liked someone who repeatedly lied when questioned about the scandals surrounding his conduct.

I liked Bill Clinton - OP

Should be a capital offense.

In an ideal world, he would have been investigated, charged with treason, tried in court, and sentenced to death upon being found guilty.

Didn't Slick Willie also basically give the Chinese the plans for the W88 warhead and the MIRV bus?? Another count on the treason charge.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:28:25 PM EDT

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To you last question, not at all. To the rest of it, that's pretty much what I expected.
It doesn't matter who is explaining it. Fascism falls on the left of the political spectrum.

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Lol. Is that supposed to sound cleaver ? That is all in who is defining it and which paticular incarnation of fascism we are discussing. Is it some how better if its your side standing on your neck ?

To you last question, not at all. To the rest of it, that's pretty much what I expected.
It doesn't matter who is explaining it. Fascism falls on the left of the political spectrum.

Fire up Google and read up. It's hardly the black and white issue that you make it out to be, but then again rarely issue are as easily defined as GD like to make it out to be.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:35:44 PM EDT

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Fire up Google and read up. It's hardly the black and white issue that you make it out to be, but then again rarely issue are as easily defined as GD like to make it out to be.

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Lol. Is that supposed to sound cleaver ? That is all in who is defining it and which paticular incarnation of fascism we are discussing. Is it some how better if its your side standing on your neck ?

To you last question, not at all. To the rest of it, that's pretty much what I expected.
It doesn't matter who is explaining it. Fascism falls on the left of the political spectrum.

Fire up Google and read up. It's hardly the black and white issue that you make it out to be, but then again rarely issue are as easily defined as GD like to make it out to be.

The political spectrum is pretty well defined. More gov control moves you left. Less moves you right. Fascism is pretty well defined as well.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:43:17 PM EDT

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The political spectrum is pretty well defined. More gov control moves you left. Less moves you right. Fascism is pretty well defined as well.

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Lol. Is that supposed to sound cleaver ? That is all in who is defining it and which paticular incarnation of fascism we are discussing. Is it some how better if its your side standing on your neck ?

To you last question, not at all. To the rest of it, that's pretty much what I expected.
It doesn't matter who is explaining it. Fascism falls on the left of the political spectrum.

Fire up Google and read up. It's hardly the black and white issue that you make it out to be, but then again rarely issue are as easily defined as GD like to make it out to be.

The political spectrum is pretty well defined. More gov control moves you left. Less moves you right. Fascism is pretty well defined as well.

Whatever you say.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:54:24 PM EDT

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Jesus Christ on a fucking pogostick.
This is exactly the kind of amateur, lameass, bullshit filled thread Aiden was talking about.
This isn't discussion.
This isn't interesting.
It's a complete, utter and unadulterated worthless, bullshit thread and frankly, I'm not sure who's at fault here, the perpetrator or the participants.

Fucking trolls are shitting in my ARFCOM....again.

The timing of this thread and what Aiden was saying sure is interesting

second spot on post i see by straatconst.

Aiden was indeed right, though there certainly was no shortage of folks to ridicule him.

Posted: 4/25/2015 1:59:42 PM EDT

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That's your problem. You've been letting other people make form your opinion for far too long.
Try Websters:

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often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

That's pretty far left, dude.
Want to try National Socialism next?

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Not to mention the 3B in tax payer monies that Reagan sent to support and help build AQ.

What in the blue fuck are you spewing shit about?

He's probably referring to the cash the US (through the CIA) sent to the Afgan's during their war with the Soviet Union. IIRC a good percentage of those forces became the initial core of AQ.

So... in a roundabout way he's right. Even though the way he's phrasing it is false.

Check my post in reply to his, and stop spouting bullshit.

Bullshit? Perhaps I did overstate the level of involvement (it had been a long time since I've looked at the info regarding our help of the Afgans during that time), but the fact remains there's a decent probability that our funding was used to establish some of the initial connections that made AQ possible.

The info is really murky and while the official word from the US Gov is that no help was given, there are other sources (including from the UK) that disagree...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA%E2%80%93al-Qaeda_controversy

So go on stating the Gov is pure as fresh snow on this, too much money and equipment was sent over without any true way of knowing what it really ended up being used for to make the claim that we DIDN'T help them create AQ.

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Bullshit? Perhaps I did overstate the level of involvement (it had been a long time since I've looked at the info regarding our help of the Afgans during that time), but the fact remains there's a decent probability that our funding was used to establish some of the initial connections that made AQ possible.

The info is really murky and while the official word from the US Gov is that no help was given, there are other sources (including from the UK) that disagree...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA%E2%80%93al-Qaeda_controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

So go on stating the Gov is pure as fresh snow on this, too much money and equipment was sent over without any true way of knowing what it really ended up being used for to make the claim that we DIDN'T help them create AQ.

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Not to mention the 3B in tax payer monies that Reagan sent to support and help build AQ.

What in the blue fuck are you spewing shit about?

He's probably referring to the cash the US (through the CIA) sent to the Afgan's during their war with the Soviet Union. IIRC a good percentage of those forces became the initial core of AQ.

So... in a roundabout way he's right. Even though the way he's phrasing it is false.

Check my post in reply to his, and stop spouting bullshit.

Bullshit? Perhaps I did overstate the level of involvement (it had been a long time since I've looked at the info regarding our help of the Afgans during that time), but the fact remains there's a decent probability that our funding was used to establish some of the initial connections that made AQ possible.

The info is really murky and while the official word from the US Gov is that no help was given, there are other sources (including from the UK) that disagree...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA%E2%80%93al-Qaeda_controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

So go on stating the Gov is pure as fresh snow on this, too much money and equipment was sent over without any true way of knowing what it really ended up being used for to make the claim that we DIDN'T help them create AQ.

I explained it in this thread. Being excluded added to their hatred of us, but we did not gofundme AQ.
The Gov is not pure as snow in anything, but what you are pushing didn't happen.

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That's your problem. You've been letting other people make form your opinion for far too long.
Try Websters:

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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

That's pretty far left, dude.
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Whatever you say.

That's your problem. You've been letting other people make form your opinion for far too long.
Try Websters:

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often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

That's pretty far left, dude.
Want to try National Socialism next?

Tell me more about me.

Lol. Well dude, Webster will also provide you with a three line synopsis about any word in the English language, but that hardly makes it an exhaustive or even a complete discussion on the subject.

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how, and socially liberal in which ways exactly? by infiltrating us with fags smoking meth?

(not busting your balls, I'm legitimately curious b/c I've never heard of this)

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He was morally corrupt because he got caught getting a bj in the oval office (and allegedly hangs out on sex island)?
For all we know, George Bushed jacked off to tranny porn while massaging his own prostate with his thumb.

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Bill Clinton is an evil morally corupt leftist POS. He and his family are a pox on this country. He was lucky to be president at the collapse of the soviet union to cash in on the so-called peace dividend. None of his policies were responsible for the relative prosperity of the 90's. His crap administration helped launch the careers of other traitors such as his commie wife and that racist POS Eric Holder.

I despise him for the vile liberal douchebag that he is.

casting stones and all that.

The truth hurts and all that. Educate yourself on who this asshole is before posting something stupid.

He was morally corrupt because he got caught getting a bj in the oval office (and allegedly hangs out on sex island)?
For all we know, George Bushed jacked off to tranny porn while massaging his own prostate with his thumb.

In your case, "for all we know" just points how little you do actually know.

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