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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:02:09 PM EDT
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The soup gets thicker.
http://www.ibtimes.com/month-african-american-womans-mayoral-victory-missouri-sparked-police-exodus-white-1889703 Dismay with the Parma police had already become heightened a month before, when a white part-time officer used a Taser on a black teenager. The officer said he had attempted to apprehend the 17-year-old, who is related to Byrd, over suspicions of prank calls made to the police department. When the teen refused to speak, the officer Tasered and arrested him. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:06:46 PM EDT
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I am curious why race is added. If it is just your usual small town political BS, why include her race as though it is an issue - unless of course the media is just up to their old tricks. Clearly race has made no difference to the majority of the posters here. oops, make that to 3 or 4 of the posters here. As City Clerk she's probably got a damn good idea about who's clean and who's dirty. Wiping the computers, some people have been known to equate that to consciousness of guilt. If I was a taxpayer or one of the business owners, I'd surely be pissed at anybody that flushed the city down the drain like that. I doubt there will be much sympathy when some folks try to find work in town. What do you want to bet Forensic Auditing teams from the State Tax and IRS and probably State and Federal Bureaus of Investigation arrive in the next few weeks. This. Though if the exiting-wipers used something like DBAN to wipe the computers... it'll be a lot harder to recover anything. Small town cops, there's a chance they just deleted files rather than use the ol' Boot and Nuke it from orbit. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:27:56 PM EDT
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Heck , even Mayberry had more than 740 folks , didn't it?
I know nothing of the situation but have got to wonder what kind of special deals and weird practices are in place when one guy ran the place for 30+ years One part of me thinks the force really hate the new mayor and another part thinks that maybe all sort of crocked stuff was going on and the guys thought they should get out before they were fired? Was the new mayor unopposed or did the force support the person who lost? Yeah we need more story |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:31:28 PM EDT
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Heck , even Mayberry had more than 740 folks , didn't it? I know nothing of the situation but have got to wonder what kind of special deals and weird practices are in place when one guy ran the place for 30+ years One part of me thinks the force really hate the new mayor and another part thinks that maybe all sort of crocked stuff was going on and the guys thought they should get out before they were fired? Was the new mayor unopposed or did the force support the person who lost? Yeah we need more story Regular election with the old mayor, she won by 40 votes. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:36:02 PM EDT
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In a town of 700 in Missouri. I'm just playing the odds here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Different areas have different types of reserves. Something something broad brush something. And, maybe J i A has some information on the reserves in that area? In a town of 700 in Missouri. I'm just playing the odds here. That they're not paid?
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:44:16 PM EDT
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I'd rather have a resignation than a firing. Our department used to offer that as a deal to cops they were getting rid of, they would let you resign instead of being fired. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure they have no trouble finding new work with that on their resume. I'd rather have a resignation than a firing. Our department used to offer that as a deal to cops they were getting rid of, they would let you resign instead of being fired. yes I just recently got back here and I am not going to screw up again. I could tell you true stories about what can happen in a black town when they switch from one black mayor to another and how it plays out concerning white and black employees. But I will not, the only thing I can tell you is that these folks knew time was short and acted accordingly. I do not even have to know where this is to tell you that. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:22:41 PM EDT
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yes I just recently got back here and I am not going to screw up again. I could tell you true stories about what can happen in a black town when they switch from one black mayor to another and how it plays out concerning white and black employees. But I will not, the only thing I can tell you is that these folks knew time was short and acted accordingly. I do not even have to know where this is to tell you that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure they have no trouble finding new work with that on their resume. I'd rather have a resignation than a firing. Our department used to offer that as a deal to cops they were getting rid of, they would let you resign instead of being fired. yes I just recently got back here and I am not going to screw up again. I could tell you true stories about what can happen in a black town when they switch from one black mayor to another and how it plays out concerning white and black employees. But I will not, the only thing I can tell you is that these folks knew time was short and acted accordingly. I do not even have to know where this is to tell you that. Is it customary for the outgoing staff to wipe hard drives? |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:25:51 PM EDT
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With a population of only 740, how does the city have a budget for ANYTHING, let alone 6 police officers? Speed trap & asset forfeiture? Those tickets aren't going to write themselves.... 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:26:19 PM EDT
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My HOA has more members than this town, and we have exactly 0 police officers. Tinhorn town anyways, who cares? They should disband the town and let themselves be absorbed into the county.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:31:17 PM EDT
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The soup gets thicker.
http://www.ibtimes.com/month-african-american-womans-mayoral-victory-missouri-sparked-police-exodus-white-1889703 Dismay with the Parma police had already become heightened a month before, when a white part-time officer used a Taser on a black teenager. The officer said he had attempted to apprehend the 17-year-old, who is related to Byrd, over suspicions of prank calls made to the police department. When the teen refused to speak, the officer Tasered and arrested him. Welcome to page 3.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a town of 700 in Missouri. I'm just playing the odds here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Different areas have different types of reserves. Something something broad brush something. And, maybe J i A has some information on the reserves in that area? In a town of 700 in Missouri. I'm just playing the odds here. I have absolutely no idea how they do things at that particular PD though. I doubt I've ever been within 20 miles of it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:40:01 PM EDT
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http://www.city-data.com/city/Parma-Missouri.html
Parma compared to Missouri state average:
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Parma-Missouri.html#ixzz3XzDFSM5p |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:40:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 6:50:32 PM EDT
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this data runs from 2006 to 2009 (no murders in that span)
this data is 2002-2012 and shows the same 2005-2012 The primary data for this is the UCR. 2013 UCR data: |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 9:46:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though. Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:37:59 PM EDT
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Likely this seeing as though it's a small town. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think her being black is why they quit. I have a feeling she has said a lot of anti-police racial stuff while campaigning. Just a wild guess though. Or, the cops were just cronies of the previous mayor who had been in 37 years, and knew they weren't going to have a job after the new mayor took office. Apparently the new mayor is a Republican, while the old mayor is a Democrat. According to This interview with the D/C, he figured that he would be fired since his job had been threatened (According to him) by the new mayor's family, and he was just getting out on his own terms...... Meh.. at this point with no data one way or the other from anyone independent, there's just no way to REALLY Know. has the computer issue been addressed other than anecdotally?? |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 3:17:16 AM EDT
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. If you break that up into 12 hour shifts then that is two guys on patrol at any time, one guy going from days to nights to give them two days off every 7 to 8 days, and a chief to handle ALL of the admin duties. Doesn't seem like a large force now does it? |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 3:37:56 AM EDT
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If you break that up into 12 hour shifts then that is two guys on patrol at any time, one guy going from days to nights to give them two days off every 7 to 8 days, and a chief to handle ALL of the admin duties. Doesn't seem like a large force now does it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. If you break that up into 12 hour shifts then that is two guys on patrol at any time, one guy going from days to nights to give them two days off every 7 to 8 days, and a chief to handle ALL of the admin duties. Doesn't seem like a large force now does it? A town of 740 doesn't need a police force to begin with. I can't even fathom how they could pay for one, considering how poor this town supposedly is. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 3:44:45 AM EDT
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A town of 740 doesn't need a police force to begin with. I can't even fathom how they could pay for one, considering how poor this town supposedly is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. If you break that up into 12 hour shifts then that is two guys on patrol at any time, one guy going from days to nights to give them two days off every 7 to 8 days, and a chief to handle ALL of the admin duties. Doesn't seem like a large force now does it? A town of 740 doesn't need a police force to begin with. I can't even fathom how they could pay for one, considering how poor this town supposedly is. They were not all full time officers. Reserve officers often work for free or very low wages. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 3:49:40 AM EDT
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That they're not paid? Nope. That too would be playing the good odds. I was guessing JiA has no more specific information on that small town's reserve officer program than you or I. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 3:52:46 AM EDT
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They were not all full time officers. Reserve officers often work for free or very low wages. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6 cops for 740 people? Seems unnecessary anyways. I think this new mayor may have just saved this town some money. If you break that up into 12 hour shifts then that is two guys on patrol at any time, one guy going from days to nights to give them two days off every 7 to 8 days, and a chief to handle ALL of the admin duties. Doesn't seem like a large force now does it? A town of 740 doesn't need a police force to begin with. I can't even fathom how they could pay for one, considering how poor this town supposedly is. They were not all full time officers. Reserve officers often work for free or very low wages. I understand that. Working towards becoming a reserve myself. Even 3 full time officers must cost that city over 150k annually for wages, insurance, training, equipment, etc. As a councilman on a similarly sized small town, I just don't see where the money would come from. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 5:11:09 AM EDT
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Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. This is GD my friend. Most if not all here are too stupid to comprehend your logic 
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Posted: 4/22/2015 7:09:43 AM EDT
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This is GD my friend. Most if not all here are too stupid to comprehend your logic
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lol They don't need 6 cops anyway. If you sneeze while driving you'll completely miss Parma. Uhhh, never scheduled staff before, I see. There are 7 days in a week. If you had 2 officers, they'd both have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. 4 officers would be MINIMAL (for 24/7 coverage), but only if none of them ever get sick or take a vacation. 5 would allow for coverages when one of the other staff is unable to work. 6 would be optimal. This is GD my friend. Most if not all here are too stupid to comprehend your logic
Nothing in what he said answers why a town that small needs its own full 24x7 police department. But of course almost all of us are too damn dumb to understand that. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 7:40:57 AM EDT
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this data runs from 2006 to 2009 (no murders in that span) this data is 2002-2012 and shows the same 2005-2012 The primary data for this is the UCR. 2013 UCR data:City ParmaPopulation 672"Violent crime" 2"Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter" 0"Rape (revised definition)" 0Robbery 0 "Aggravated assault" 2 "Property crime" 19Burglary 6 "Larceny-theft" 13 "Motor vehicle theft" 0 Arson 1 This is clearly invalid data from a non-authoritative source. Where are the 9 murders JiA sited? 
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:37:21 AM EDT
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According to This interview with the D/C, he figured that he would be fired since his job had been threatened (According to him) by the new mayor's family, and he was just getting out on his own terms...... Meh.. If true I don't blame him but who knows what the real story is. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:22:54 PM EDT
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If true I don't blame him but who knows what the real story is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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According to This interview with the D/C, he figured that he would be fired since his job had been threatened (According to him) by the new mayor's family, and he was just getting out on his own terms...... Meh.. If true I don't blame him but who knows what the real story is. He quit because he was threatened to be fired by a family member of the mayor. Sounds like a BS cop out to me. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 1:11:03 PM EDT
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according to some site I found trying to see what her campaign platform was: she won by 38 votes there was 2 full time and 3 part timers, and they wiped every computer in city hall on the way out... curious and curiouser...  Interesting, wonder if it was just spite or if they were destroying evidence of wrongdoing? Dick move either way . I also wonder if the guys doing the wiping were sophisticated enough to really wipe them? |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 2:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Different areas have different types of reserves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My guess is, a few of the officers that "resigned" don't actually exist and the records were wiped in an attempt to hide embezzlement in the form of employees on paper only. Take a look at Google maps, there's no friggin way they needed six officers. That place has no highway nearby to get traffic revenue off of so it's not that. Those officers simply didn't exist. My bets are their PAYCHECKS were still cashed though... Reserve officers don't get paychecks. Also, the city payroll would have the pay records, not the police dept. Your universal statement doesn't seem to be universal. $29.16/hr = nothing. PS: I know that I'm being ignored which really hurts my feels. This is for other folks to understand the level of BS in some of these posts. Different areas have different types of reserves. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 2:45:29 PM EDT
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In my agency our Reserves get $1.00 a year check presented in a frame that the back reads "Do not cash check, no funds". 832.05 Giving worthless checks, drafts, and debit card orders; penalty; duty of drawee; evidence; costs; complaint form.— 
Actually it's not applicable because they were told there's no funds. Although it's a shame that you guys can't afford to cash a handful of one dollar checks. Have you tried looking in the sofa cushions? |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 8:19:09 PM EDT
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051612/Race-did-NOT-play-role-Missouri-town-s-employees-stepping-black-mayor-voted-ex-police-chief-claims.html Behind the Parma sign, about the third driveway, is where my brother in law used to live. I grew up a few miles from there. Parma was always a little shitty. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:53:37 PM EDT
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/23/04/27D90C9F00000578-3051612-image-a-45_1429759741897.jpg http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051612/Race-did-NOT-play-role-Missouri-town-s-employees-stepping-black-mayor-voted-ex-police-chief-claims.html Behind the Parma sign, about the third driveway, is where my brother in law used to live. I grew up a few miles from there. Parma was always a little shitty. 
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:00:36 PM EDT
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/23/04/27D90C9F00000578-3051612-image-a-45_1429759741897.jpg http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051612/Race-did-NOT-play-role-Missouri-town-s-employees-stepping-black-mayor-voted-ex-police-chief-claims.html Behind the Parma sign, about the third driveway, is where my brother in law used to live. I grew up a few miles from there. Parma was always a little shitty.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 11:43:11 PM EDT
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does anyone have an article with the party affiliation of these 2? I know it has been said the former Mayor is a democrat and the new lady is republican but My google fu must suck
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Posted: 4/25/2015 4:00:35 PM EDT
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does anyone have an article with the party affiliation of these 2? I know it has been said the former Mayor is a democrat and the new lady is republican but My google fu must suck Republicans do not hold office in New Madrid county. |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 4:48:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Republicans do not hold office in New Madrid county. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: does anyone have an article with the party affiliation of these 2? I know it has been said the former Mayor is a democrat and the new lady is republican but My google fu must suck Republicans do not hold office in New Madrid county. |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 5:12:25 PM EDT
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/23/04/27D90C9F00000578-3051612-image-a-45_1429759741897.jpg http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051612/Race-did-NOT-play-role-Missouri-town-s-employees-stepping-black-mayor-voted-ex-police-chief-claims.html Behind the Parma sign, about the third driveway, is where my brother in law used to live. I grew up a few miles from there. Parma was always a little shitty.
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:00:27 PM EDT
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Watched a news story where they interviewed the ex chief and another officer. They were concerned for their safety as the new Mayors family had released personal information on them.
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:03:12 PM EDT
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According to This interview with the D/C, he figured that he would be fired since his job had been threatened (According to him) by the new mayor's family, and he was just getting out on his own terms...... Meh.. If true I don't blame him but who knows what the real story is. Yeah. Them wiping the hard drives is the fly wrench in the ointment. |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:10:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watched a news story where they interviewed the ex chief and another officer. They were concerned for their safety as the new Mayors family had released personal information on them. Hostile to LEO's |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:22:08 PM EDT
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Hell, the way I read it is town hiring police officers.
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:34:59 PM EDT
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Watched a news story where they interviewed the ex chief and another officer. They were concerned for their safety as the new Mayors family had released personal information on them. Hostile to LEO's No kidding. If they don't know where you live, work schedule, and names of your kids, I would be surprised. |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:36:58 PM EDT
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Somehow I get the feeling that a lot of the payroll were cronies of the outgoing mayor...
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:47:38 PM EDT
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Somehow I get the feeling that a lot of the payroll were cronies of the outgoing mayor... 5 cops for 700 people. What do you think was going on? |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 7:59:56 PM EDT
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Somehow I get the feeling that a lot of the payroll were cronies of the outgoing mayor... 5 cops for 700 people. What do you think was going on? The cops were there to police the one store and to enforce the speed limit. Nothing else to do. |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 8:31:35 PM EDT
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Somehow I get the feeling that a lot of the payroll were cronies of the outgoing mayor... 5 cops for 700 people. What do you think was going on? The cops were there to police the one store and to enforce the speed limit. Nothing else to do. They were known to steal the odd item out of cars they stopped. Laptops, phones and such. |
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Posted: 4/25/2015 9:18:29 PM EDT
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I don't see how that town could afford to pay a mayor, let alone 2 or 3 full time cops.
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Posted: 4/25/2015 9:34:41 PM EDT
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I don't see how that town could afford to pay a mayor, let alone 2 or 3 full time cops. 37yrs is a long time to be a mayor and if they really erased the computers that is a bad look. Calling it a " Bad look " is like calling murder a " possible involuntary suicide " . |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:05:09 AM EDT
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Somehow I get the feeling that a lot of the payroll were cronies of the outgoing mayor... 5 cops for 700 people. What do you think was going on? The cops were there to police the one store and to enforce the speed limit. Nothing else to do. And yet the one store got robbed or burglarized nine times in a decade. They had one job.
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