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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:18:08 AM EDT
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The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. You can't be serious. Do you really believe that? That's just plain silly talk. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:37:09 AM EDT
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The horse thief tried to surrender and got his ass kicked HARD for it (not sure which race he was). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. The horse thief tried to surrender and got his ass kicked HARD for it (not sure which race he was). I only caught part of that video on the news, but it appeared to me he was running from the cops at the start of all that. If that's the case, he was actively resisting at some point in time during that situation, meaning he wouldn't fall into the category I described. If you don't actively resist at all during an encounter you have with LE, your chances of being injured or killed are about zero. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:38:54 AM EDT
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It's Baltimore. Just playing the odds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's nice to see the city throw the cops under the bus before they bother with trivial details like an investigation. It's Baltimore. Just playing the odds. And the odds are indeed in their favor. Quoted:
<snip> I only caught part of that video on the news, but it appeared to me he was running from the cops at the start of all that. If that's the case, he was actively resisting at some point in time during that situation, meaning he wouldn't fall into the category I described. If you don't actively resist at all during an encounter you have with LE, your chances of being injured or killed are about zero. Except perhaps in Baltimore. That department has a reputation. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:39:52 AM EDT
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You can't be serious. Do you really believe that? That's just plain silly talk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. You can't be serious. Do you really believe that? That's just plain silly talk. I know, silly me. I don't know what I was thinking. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:40:02 AM EDT
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So was he literally running for his life? Fuck B-more. They should fence that shit hole off and burn it down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't run from the cops. If you make them chase you, they're bringing an ass-kicking with them. So was he literally running for his life? Fuck B-more. They should fence that shit hole off and burn it down. It's cool, I'm out in the burbs. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:48:33 AM EDT
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I am a cop in that shit hole....  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I am a cop in that shit hole.... Bless you dude. You're a better man than I am. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:36:30 AM EDT
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truth. I got a concealed carry just because I can..
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:37:00 AM EDT
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thanks... thinking of leaving when I get back from Afghanistan.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:38:26 AM EDT
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truth. I got a concealed carry just because I can.. Miss a quote? 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:15:47 AM EDT
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thanks... thinking of leaving when I get back from Afghanistan. Thank you for your service. You deserve better than Baltimore., |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:35:54 AM EDT
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All the people advocating blacks run from cops just because
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:07:18 AM EDT
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Don't run. ...or run faster. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:31:55 AM EDT
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I'm wondering if isolated incidents there helped directors choose it as the location for "The Wire".. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I'm wondering if isolated incidents there helped directors choose it as the location for "The Wire".. I thought they chose it because of CompStat. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:32:27 AM EDT
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I am a cop in that shit hole.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I am a cop in that shit hole.... My sympathies. So is a childhood friend of mine. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:34:12 AM EDT
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I am a cop in that shit hole.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I am a cop in that shit hole.... Sorry to hear, but baltimore should be nuked from orbit. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:41:56 AM EDT
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I am a cop in that shit hole.... Say hi to thedoctors308 for me. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:57:09 AM EDT
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Why did the cops ignore that Doctors diagnosis in that video?
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:07:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am a cop in that shit hole.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I am a cop in that shit hole....  |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:18:16 AM EDT
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Say hi to thedoctors308 for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I am a cop in that shit hole.... Say hi to thedoctors308 for me. Maybe he's TD308's troll account? 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:20:22 AM EDT
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My hometown. Man I need to move. Prepping for the upcoming protest riots.
Plus there is no way that an ordinary citizen can get a carry permit in Maryland. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:52:30 PM EDT
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What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? Nice edit sparky. If you don't run from Cops, they won't chase you. If you aren't running, and they aren't chasing, guns are less likely to be drawn. Also, stuff like you being tackled by multiple LE, breaking things, won't happen. Fighting or running from LE is a conscious decision, one that carries consequences, whether YOU like it or not. Or you could just try not committing crimes..... Therefore......my "Nah". |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:53:14 PM EDT
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If I was a black man in Baltimore I might have been running as well. Free Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? All the way to another state. Choices. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:56:00 PM EDT
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The horse thief tried to surrender and got his ass kicked HARD for it (not sure which race he was). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. The horse thief tried to surrender and got his ass kicked HARD for it (not sure which race he was). That was bad juju. Officers should stand tall before the man. However, see part in red......... Choices. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI miss McNulty..... |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:06:54 PM EDT
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And the odds are indeed in their favor. Except perhaps in Baltimore. That department has a reputation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's nice to see the city throw the cops under the bus before they bother with trivial details like an investigation. It's Baltimore. Just playing the odds. And the odds are indeed in their favor. Quoted:
<snip> I only caught part of that video on the news, but it appeared to me he was running from the cops at the start of all that. If that's the case, he was actively resisting at some point in time during that situation, meaning he wouldn't fall into the category I described. If you don't actively resist at all during an encounter you have with LE, your chances of being injured or killed are about zero. Except perhaps in Baltimore. That department has a reputation. The city also has a reputation. I'll wait until I see some evidence of what happened to the man before I decide who's responsible. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:11:24 PM EDT
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This is exactly right. The media is starting to give people the illusion that running is an acceptable thing to do because if something bad happens when you're caught the media will blame the police. When someone runs they take what might be a minor charge and amplify it with an additional charge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't run from the cops. If you make them chase you, they're bringing an ass-kicking with them. This is exactly right. The media is starting to give people the illusion that running is an acceptable thing to do because if something bad happens when you're caught the media will blame the police. When someone runs they take what might be a minor charge and amplify it with an additional charge. Or get their back broken being tackled and die right there. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:17:57 PM EDT
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The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. People do stupid things under stress/duress. If a cop can't handle and accept that, he needs to look at a job that doesn't deal with chasing criminals. ....we can't, as a society, allow police to be able to shrug their shoulders and say "he was running/resisting, and his neck got broke", then shrug and say "it happens" |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:27:34 PM EDT
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I simply don't care anymore. Either the public will accept that the police do this and accept it as the new norm, or the criminals will start to organize and use proper weapons and tactics for the situation they put themselves in. Simple as that.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:28:00 PM EDT
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I know, silly me. I don't know what I was thinking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. You can't be serious. Do you really believe that? That's just plain silly talk. I know, silly me. I don't know what I was thinking. According to the GDtard experts, all the police do all day long is drive around (on taxpayers gas money) looking for people to kill. Of course this is between the times they are driving around looking to violate rights and do gun confiscations for the democrats. So, according to GD, its always OK to run from the police because all they want to do is kill you anyway. Just cuz. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:32:06 PM EDT
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People do stupid things under stress/duress. If a cop can't handle and accept that, he needs to look at a job that doesn't deal with chasing criminals. ....we can't, as a society, allow police to be able to shrug their shoulders and say "he was running/resisting, and his neck got broke", then shrug and say "it happens" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. People do stupid things under stress/duress. If a cop can't handle and accept that, he needs to look at a job that doesn't deal with chasing criminals. ....we can't, as a society, allow police to be able to shrug their shoulders and say "he was running/resisting, and his neck got broke", then shrug and say "it happens" It does happen. If we can't accept that sometimes the dude that died, died because he was a dumbass, good luck finding GOOD officers. You'll end up with the force many claim we already have. Assuming every time there's an injury, barring evidence, that impropriety was involved, is a dangerous game to play. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:36:08 PM EDT
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I thought they chose it because of CompStat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. I'm wondering if isolated incidents there helped directors choose it as the location for "The Wire".. I thought they chose it because of CompStat. The creator and writer for The Wire, David Simon, was a beat reporter in Baltimore for 12 years, covering the drug trade, homicides, political corruption, etc. He wrote the series using his real life experience as the primary material. Makes the show that much more interesting. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:37:46 PM EDT
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What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men who violently resist arrest? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men who violently resist arrest? Fixed for accuracy. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:38:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men?  |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:39:17 PM EDT
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I simply don't care anymore. Either the public will accept that the police do this and accept it as the new norm, or the criminals will start to organize and use proper weapons and tactics for the situation they put themselves in. Simple as that. Or the criminals could, you know, comply and not resist. Then, we wouldn't need to worry about cops using the wrong force, or spend millions of dollars a year on body cameras. Everything would be simple. But yeah, let's suggest that the criminals should one up the cops, that's fucking brilliant. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:41:00 PM EDT
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Thank you for your service. You deserve better than Baltimore., Quote HistoryQuoted:
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thanks... thinking of leaving when I get back from Afghanistan. Thank you for your service. You deserve better than Baltimore., Well, he's currently somewhere safe, Afghanistan. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:46:20 PM EDT
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It does happen. If we can't accept that sometimes the dude that died, died because he was a dumbass, good luck finding GOOD officers. You'll end up with the force many claim we already have. Assuming every time there's an injury, barring evidence, that impropriety was involved, is a dangerous game to play. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. People do stupid things under stress/duress. If a cop can't handle and accept that, he needs to look at a job that doesn't deal with chasing criminals. ....we can't, as a society, allow police to be able to shrug their shoulders and say "he was running/resisting, and his neck got broke", then shrug and say "it happens" It does happen. If we can't accept that sometimes the dude that died, died because he was a dumbass, good luck finding GOOD officers. You'll end up with the force many claim we already have. Assuming every time there's an injury, barring evidence, that impropriety was involved, is a dangerous game to play. Impropriety or Incompetence? at the end of the day, this dude's neck was broken by a failure in the work those officers did. Whether it was willful brutality, getting caught up in the adrenalin of the chase, or poorly applied technique, the result is the same. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:53:54 PM EDT
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The cops are part of the reason it is a shit hole. Guess you wouldnt believe many of the drug dealers (suppliers) in Baltimore are cops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in that shit hole. The cops are part of the reason it is a shit hole. Guess you wouldnt believe many of the drug dealers (suppliers) in Baltimore are cops. You have proof of that, right? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:55:46 PM EDT
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Or the criminals could, you know, comply and not resist. Then, we wouldn't need to worry about cops using the wrong force, or spend millions of dollars a year on body cameras. Everything would be simple. But yeah, let's suggest that the criminals should one up the cops, that's fucking brilliant. Never going to happen, which is why I didn't include it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:57:49 PM EDT
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at the end of the day, this dude's neck was broken by a failure in the work those officers did. Whether it was willful brutality, getting caught up in the adrenalin of the chase, or poorly applied technique, the result is the same. You know this how? What if dumbass fell and broke his neck and that's how the cops caught up to him? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW, I give you a lot of credit for holding off until there is more than the family lawyer's accusations; though I wish you wouldn't phrase it that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd been sitting on this one until they had a few days to get their story straight. BTW, I give you a lot of credit for holding off until there is more than the family lawyer's accusations; though I wish you wouldn't phrase it that way. Come on. It's Baltimore. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:32:51 PM EDT
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You know this how? What if dumbass fell and broke his neck and that's how the cops caught up to him? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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at the end of the day, this dude's neck was broken by a failure in the work those officers did. Whether it was willful brutality, getting caught up in the adrenalin of the chase, or poorly applied technique, the result is the same. You know this how? What if dumbass fell and broke his neck and that's how the cops caught up to him? He knows that's not how it happened. The news station implied it was the cop's fault, and he agrees, if the cops are involved, they're at fault. Duh. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:53:49 PM EDT
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You know this how? What if dumbass fell and broke his neck and that's how the cops caught up to him? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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at the end of the day, this dude's neck was broken by a failure in the work those officers did. Whether it was willful brutality, getting caught up in the adrenalin of the chase, or poorly applied technique, the result is the same. You know this how? What if dumbass fell and broke his neck and that's how the cops caught up to him? Seen that happen. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:59:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:11:59 PM EDT
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I only caught part of that video on the news, but it appeared to me he was running from the cops at the start of all that. If that's the case, he was actively resisting at some point in time during that situation, meaning he wouldn't fall into the category I described. If you don't actively resist at all during an encounter you have with LE, your chances of being injured or killed are about zero. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just had a thought.......... Nah. What? That he was fleeing because cops in this country have a habit of killing unarmed black men? The majority of the "unarmed black men" that are killed by LEO's tend to be exhibiting some form of active resistance at minimum (running away, fighting, etc.). It would stand to reason that if you didn't do those things, your chances of being killed go down drastically (probably close to zero). Your assertion that these men are running because they're actually afraid of being unjustly killed falls flat on it's face in the logic department. If you don't actively resist, LEO's won't have to use physical force to subdue you. The horse thief tried to surrender and got his ass kicked HARD for it (not sure which race he was). I only caught part of that video on the news, but it appeared to me he was running from the cops at the start of all that. If that's the case, he was actively resisting at some point in time during that situation, meaning he wouldn't fall into the category I described. If you don't actively resist at all during an encounter you have with LE, your chances of being injured or killed are about zero.
The Horse thief went face down and put his hands behind his back immediately.There was no reason for the cops to go to town beating the guy. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:25:15 PM EDT
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The Horse thief went face down and put his hands behind his back immediately.There was no reason for the cops to go to town beating the guy. Did I say there was a reason for the beating that they gave that guy? No, I didn't. My comments were directed at the genius who thinks that "unarmed black men" run because they're afraid of being unjustly killed by LE, when the simple fact of the matter is, if they didn't run or actively resist, their chances of being injured or killed go down to about zero. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:29:18 PM EDT
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"We believe the police are keeping the circumstances of Freddie's death secret until they develop a version of events that will absolve them of all responsibility," Murphy said. "However, his family and the citizens of Baltimore deserve to know the real truth; and we will not stop until we get justice for Freddie." That's some high respect and openness to the results of an autopsy going on there. "The Real Truth" is the biased news story that is already being peddled, Am I correct? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:37:15 PM EDT
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With the way cops land on suspects that are prone on the ground, it doesn't surprise me that more knee's don't injure or severe spines. Especially c-spine.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:38:58 PM EDT
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I used to work for the Baltimore City Solicitor's office. One of my cases had me stay at busy (read "the hood") fire stations on the busy days (when the checks hit). The police would often bring their breakfasts, lunches and dinners and eat them in the firehouse. I will never forget the look of relief on the officers' faces when they made it into the fire stations. The only thing I can imagine was it was like patrols coming back "in the wire" after a firefight. I used to know some city cops. Most of them were regular guys.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:46:59 PM EDT
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The Horse thief went face down and put his hands behind his back immediately.There was no reason for the cops to go to town beating the guy. You're forgetting the BEST reason: because they can. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:50:54 PM EDT
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Not even Mike Rowe can clean up that shit hole.
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