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Quoted: Good. I've killed more deer and squirrels than I can count and eat everything I kill. These people that go to Africa to kill animals just for the fuck of it can choke themselves. View Quote What about your latest burger? Kill all those cows yourself? No? |
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Quoted: Apparently I don't. Poor fat white guys then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just like skydiving accidents, you know what you're risking when you do dangerous shit. Not like he didn't know what he was getting into. Exactly. There's a lot of other people I'd rather give sympathy too rather than this guy This. Sometimes the pendulum swings the other way. If the elephants are a local problem, let the locals deal with them. Fat rich white dudes going out of their way to "deal" with them get no sympathy from me, and sometimes its entertaining to see nature get one victory out of what probably amounts to 10,000 or so losses. Kinda like missionaries that go to 3rd world shitholes to spread the word of Christianity. Oh. Well. Apparently I don't. Poor fat white guys then? Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Local shoots it. Locals eat it Vs Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Dude in Africa rents hunting rights from .gov Dude hires a dozen or more locals Rich guy from abroad comes over, pays tons of money along the way, shoots elephant Locals eat it Guy has tusks sent home. Everybody is happy and gainfully employed (except the butthurt PETA types that can't understand how things beyond their neighborhood works) You really should try forming opinions based on logic and facts instead if emotion. It's fun. |
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Quoted: Good. It's not like the elephantine population in Africa has declined drastically over the last century or anything. View Quote Professional hunters are not the cause of a declining population. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant Population estimates and poaching During the 20th century, poaching significantly reduced the population of Loxodonta in some regions. The World Wildlife Foundation believes there were between 3 and 5 million African elephants as recently as the 1930s and 1940s.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant#cite_note-41][41][/url] Between 1980 and 1990 the population of African elephants was more than halved, from 1.3 million to around 600,000.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant#cite_note-42][42][/url][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant#cite_note-43][43][/url] Between 1973 and 1989, the African elephant population of Kenya declined by 85%.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant#cite_note-Status-2002-10][10][/url] In Chad, the population declined from 400,000 in 1970 to about 10,000 in 2006. The population in the Tanzanian Selous Game Reserve, once the largest of any reserve in the world, dropped from 109,000 in 1976 to 13,000 in 2013.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant#cite_note-IvoryCurse-44][44][/url] That's only a small excerpt, please read the whole thing. |
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Sometimes you are the hunter, and once in your life you become the hunted. It is the way of the world.
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Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Local shoots it. Locals eat it Vs Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Dude in Africa rents hunting rights from .gov Dude hires a dozen or more locals Rich guy from abroad comes over, pays tons of money along the way, shoots elephant Locals eat it Guy has tusks sent home. Everybody is happy and gainfully employed (except the butthurt PETA types that can't understand how things beyond their neighborhood works) You really should try forming opinions based on logic and facts instead if emotion. It's fun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly. There's a lot of other people I'd rather give sympathy too rather than this guy This. Sometimes the pendulum swings the other way. If the elephants are a local problem, let the locals deal with them. Fat rich white dudes going out of their way to "deal" with them get no sympathy from me, and sometimes its entertaining to see nature get one victory out of what probably amounts to 10,000 or so losses. Kinda like missionaries that go to 3rd world shitholes to spread the word of Christianity. Oh. Well. Apparently I don't. Poor fat white guys then? Local shoots it. Locals eat it Vs Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Dude in Africa rents hunting rights from .gov Dude hires a dozen or more locals Rich guy from abroad comes over, pays tons of money along the way, shoots elephant Locals eat it Guy has tusks sent home. Everybody is happy and gainfully employed (except the butthurt PETA types that can't understand how things beyond their neighborhood works) You really should try forming opinions based on logic and facts instead if emotion. It's fun. Actually what I posted wasn't about economics, it was about some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process. Im sure there are plenty of local Africans that get killed hunting these things, but they don't make the news. One guy, who goes out of his way to hunt them gets killed, and we hear about it. That was my point, and it never had anything to do with economics. It had to do with a guy going out of his way to deal with an otherwise local problem, and getting killed. Thank you for your expert briefing on African Safari Economics. Unfortunately google, which is about as credible as your post, has plenty of info that contradicts many parts of what you've said. But since that had nothing to do with my post, and since I really don't care, it is still phenomenally irrelevant. Your response's irrelevance to my post would indicate that you really should try to grasp fundamentals of reading comprehension before going off on a tangent about my usage of the word "rich" as anything other than a slight against the people taking part in these activities. So, based on that, I'm sticking with my original argument that fat white hunter going out of his way to hunt dangerous African animals will have the same end result, which is me giving precisely zero fucks. Next time you call me out, please call me out for something I said, not something you wanted to argue for the sake of arguing. |
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The only happy ending that's possible with an elephant hunt. Hope more scumbags like him get stomped.
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Quoted: Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Local shoots it. Locals eat it Vs Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Dude in Africa rents hunting rights from .gov Dude hires a dozen or more locals Rich guy from abroad comes over, pays tons of money along the way, shoots elephant Locals eat it Guy has tusks sent home. Everybody is happy and gainfully employed (except the butthurt PETA types that can't understand how things beyond their neighborhood works) You really should try forming opinions based on logic and facts instead if emotion. It's fun. View Quote I don't believe that has been legal since the early-mid 70s. Otherwise, yeah, it is a huge boon to their economy. |
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Quoted: Actually what I posted wasn't about economics, it was about some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process. Im sure there are plenty of local Africans that get killed hunting these things, but they don't make the news. One guy, who goes out of his way to hunt them gets killed, and we hear about it. That was my point, and it never had anything to do with economics. It had to do with a guy going out of his way to deal with an otherwise local problem, and getting killed. Thank you for your expert briefing on African Safari Economics. Unfortunately google, which is about as credible as your post, has plenty of info that contradicts many parts of what you've said. But since that had nothing to do with my post, and since I really don't care, it is still phenomenally irrelevant. Your response's irrelevance to my post would indicate that you really should try to grasp fundamentals of reading comprehension before going off on a tangent about my usage of the word "rich" as anything other than a slight against the people taking part in these activities. So, based on that, I'm sticking with my original argument that fat white hunter going out of his way to hunt dangerous African animals will have the same end result, which is me giving precisely zero fucks. Next time you call me out, please call me out for something I said, not something you wanted to argue for the sake of arguing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Actually what I posted wasn't about economics, it was about some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process. Im sure there are plenty of local Africans that get killed hunting these things, but they don't make the news. One guy, who goes out of his way to hunt them gets killed, and we hear about it. That was my point, and it never had anything to do with economics. It had to do with a guy going out of his way to deal with an otherwise local problem, and getting killed. Thank you for your expert briefing on African Safari Economics. Unfortunately google, which is about as credible as your post, has plenty of info that contradicts many parts of what you've said. But since that had nothing to do with my post, and since I really don't care, it is still phenomenally irrelevant. Your response's irrelevance to my post would indicate that you really should try to grasp fundamentals of reading comprehension before going off on a tangent about my usage of the word "rich" as anything other than a slight against the people taking part in these activities. So, based on that, I'm sticking with my original argument that fat white hunter going out of his way to hunt dangerous African animals will have the same end result, which is me giving precisely zero fucks. Next time you call me out, please call me out for something I said, not something you wanted to argue for the sake of arguing. Okay. Hmmm, where to start? How about the fact is the guy killed was not "some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process" , but instead was the PH (Professional Hunter), ie the local trying to earn a living, the guy that guides and directs the entire safari process was the one killed. Funny, you cant even get the basic facts of the story correct before going off on your tirade of 'not giving fucks'. But don't worry, I doubt anyone really wants them, so you can keep them. |
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These threads call out all the folks who spend too much time watching Disney. Shoot a deer, shoot a hog, shoot an elephant...they're all animals. As long as it's humane and legal, then there's no difference.
For all the people crying about the hunter not eating the meat, then do you say it's wrong to hunt coyotes (because I don't know of anyone who eats coyote), As others have pointed out, the locals do eat animals taken on safari, so doesn't that make the elephant hunter more noble than the coyote hunter. Maybe it's just to be a noble hunter, a person must eat what they kill. So I guess when I take a deer and donate it to Hunter's for the Hungry I'm a scum of the earth hunter. |
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Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Local shoots it. Locals eat it Vs Elephants tearing up crops because too many elephants. Dude in Africa rents hunting rights from .gov Dude hires a dozen or more locals Rich guy from abroad comes over, pays tons of money along the way, shoots elephant Locals eat it Guy has tusks sent home. Everybody is happy and gainfully employed (except the butthurt PETA types that can't understand how things beyond their neighborhood works) View Quote that's an extremely romanticized version. the opposing version, which is supported by empirical research, works more like this: >deer in idaho destroying crops because too many deer. >japanese tourists pay lots of money to the EPA for hunting privileges. >EPA prohibits idaho residents from killing deer. if an idahoan kills a deer that is destroying his crops, he goes to federal prison. >japanese dude hires a dozen or so local guides/porters, out of the thousands and thousands of idahoans. >guides have to give kickbacks to the EPA in exchange for this privilege. >rich japanese dude pays tons of money along the way, mostly to corrupt government officials. shoots deer. >guy kills deer. locals eat whatever he doesn't want. >EPA officials, police chief, and game warden are really happy because lots of baksheesh. a dozen locals make a little bit of money. >the rest of idaho gets fucked. now, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but your rose-colored glasses are showing. |
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Okay. Hmmm, where to start? How about the fact is the guy killed was not "some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process" , but instead was the PH (Professional Hunter), ie the local trying to earn a living, the guy that guides and directs the entire safari process was the one killed. Funny, you cant even get the basic facts of the story correct before going off on your tirade of 'not giving fucks'. But don't worry, I doubt anyone really wants them, so you can keep them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Actually what I posted wasn't about economics, it was about some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process. Im sure there are plenty of local Africans that get killed hunting these things, but they don't make the news. One guy, who goes out of his way to hunt them gets killed, and we hear about it. That was my point, and it never had anything to do with economics. It had to do with a guy going out of his way to deal with an otherwise local problem, and getting killed. Thank you for your expert briefing on African Safari Economics. Unfortunately google, which is about as credible as your post, has plenty of info that contradicts many parts of what you've said. But since that had nothing to do with my post, and since I really don't care, it is still phenomenally irrelevant. Your response's irrelevance to my post would indicate that you really should try to grasp fundamentals of reading comprehension before going off on a tangent about my usage of the word "rich" as anything other than a slight against the people taking part in these activities. So, based on that, I'm sticking with my original argument that fat white hunter going out of his way to hunt dangerous African animals will have the same end result, which is me giving precisely zero fucks. Next time you call me out, please call me out for something I said, not something you wanted to argue for the sake of arguing. Okay. Hmmm, where to start? How about the fact is the guy killed was not "some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process" , but instead was the PH (Professional Hunter), ie the local trying to earn a living, the guy that guides and directs the entire safari process was the one killed. Funny, you cant even get the basic facts of the story correct before going off on your tirade of 'not giving fucks'. But don't worry, I doubt anyone really wants them, so you can keep them. Facts are irrelevant. The people going on about "good stomping" aren't basing their opinion on facts but emotion. Funny how if someone makes a pure emotional call to ban guns they are a "stupid libtard", but make an emotional decision that one type of hunting is "bad" and it's okay. |
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Facts are irrelevant. The people going on about "good stomping" aren't basing their opinion on facts but emotion. Funny how if someone makes a pure emotional call to ban guns they are a "stupid libtard", but make an emotional decision that one type of hunting is "bad" and it's okay. View Quote this thread is a two-way range as far as feels are concerned. |
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The hunter sometimes becomes the hunted. I thought this was somewhat of the thrill of hunting dangerous game.
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Karma...play the game of killing tons of animals for sport eventually it's going to catch up to you and one of those animals might fight back View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good Karma...play the game of killing tons of animals for sport eventually it's going to catch up to you and one of those animals might fight back I agree |
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This. Sometimes the pendulum swings the other way. If the elephants are a local problem, let the locals deal with them. Fat rich white dudes going out of their way to "deal" with them get no sympathy from me, and sometimes its entertaining to see nature get one victory out of what probably amounts to 10,000 or so losses. Kinda like missionaries that go to 3rd world shitholes to spread the word of Christianity. Oh. Well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just like skydiving accidents, you know what you're risking when you do dangerous shit. Not like he didn't know what he was getting into. Exactly. There's a lot of other people I'd rather give sympathy too rather than this guy This. Sometimes the pendulum swings the other way. If the elephants are a local problem, let the locals deal with them. Fat rich white dudes going out of their way to "deal" with them get no sympathy from me, and sometimes its entertaining to see nature get one victory out of what probably amounts to 10,000 or so losses. Kinda like missionaries that go to 3rd world shitholes to spread the word of Christianity. Oh. Well. Agree |
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Okay. Hmmm, where to start? How about the fact is the guy killed was not "some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process" , but instead was the PH (Professional Hunter), ie the local trying to earn a living, the guy that guides and directs the entire safari process was the one killed. Funny, you cant even get the basic facts of the story correct before going off on your tirade of 'not giving fucks'. But don't worry, I doubt anyone really wants them, so you can keep them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Actually what I posted wasn't about economics, it was about some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process. Im sure there are plenty of local Africans that get killed hunting these things, but they don't make the news. One guy, who goes out of his way to hunt them gets killed, and we hear about it. That was my point, and it never had anything to do with economics. It had to do with a guy going out of his way to deal with an otherwise local problem, and getting killed. Thank you for your expert briefing on African Safari Economics. Unfortunately google, which is about as credible as your post, has plenty of info that contradicts many parts of what you've said. But since that had nothing to do with my post, and since I really don't care, it is still phenomenally irrelevant. Your response's irrelevance to my post would indicate that you really should try to grasp fundamentals of reading comprehension before going off on a tangent about my usage of the word "rich" as anything other than a slight against the people taking part in these activities. So, based on that, I'm sticking with my original argument that fat white hunter going out of his way to hunt dangerous African animals will have the same end result, which is me giving precisely zero fucks. Next time you call me out, please call me out for something I said, not something you wanted to argue for the sake of arguing. Okay. Hmmm, where to start? How about the fact is the guy killed was not "some random dude going out of his way to do something he knew was dangerous and getting stomped in the process" , but instead was the PH (Professional Hunter), ie the local trying to earn a living, the guy that guides and directs the entire safari process was the one killed. Funny, you cant even get the basic facts of the story correct before going off on your tirade of 'not giving fucks'. But don't worry, I doubt anyone really wants them, so you can keep them. I know who got killed. The fat guy in the article. Winks are reserved for when you actually make a fucking point, sport. |
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I hunt bear with a bow, I know that it might get me killed, but that is part of the adventure. This gentleman understood that, once I save up enough I am going to do an African hunt, though I am not sure if I will do Elephant, that is pricey
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I hunt bear with a bow, I know that it might get me killed, but that is part of the adventure. This gentleman understood that, once I save up enough I am going to do an African hunt, though I am not sure if I will do Elephant, that is pricey View Quote Tuskless hunts are usually very affordable when they are available. If you want danger and a story to tell this is the hunt for you. Cows are significantly more aggressive than bulls, on average. Bluff charges are rare. Worse, you have to go into the cow herds to find a mature cow w/o calf. You're at close range, all the cows are aggressive, and you have to be sure you find the right animal and avoid hitting the others. |
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Elephant hunting is one of the bigger incentives for the locals TO PROTECT THE ELEPHANTS RATHER THAN POACH THEM OR EAT THEM. African countries that do not hunt elephants have suffered steep declines in populations. The unintended consequenses of not hunting elephants is they die from out of control poaching. |
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It's unbelievable that some assholes think that an animal, ANY animal is worth more than a human life. African big game hunting promotes the endangered species.
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Dear bleeding hearts in this thread: Elephant hunting is one of the bigger incentives for the locals TO PROTECT THE ELEPHANTS RATHER THAN POACH THEM OR EAT THEM. African countries that do not hunt elephants have suffered steep declines in populations. The unintended consequenses of not hunting elephants is they die from out of control poaching. View Quote Yep |
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It's unbelievable that some assholes think that an animal, ANY animal is worth more than a human life. African big game hunting promotes the endangered species. Bunch of liberal morons around here. View Quote I would like to think they are just uneducated and need to understand the way of the world. I think that would be wrong and that you are correct. |
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Wow. I had no idea arfcom had this many complete fucktards. No fucking idea of how big game hunting works. PETA Puffers without a clue.
OP sensationalized an event by making up a bullshit tag line. Not exactly what happened. Young Bull Elephants are not targeted by experienced PH's. There is a reason the Client was left with the trackers and not standing next to the PH when this happened. The PH was most likely trying to get closer to check both the size and age of the Elephant they were tracking and look for others that may be close by. A guy as experienced as that PH knew that particular Elephant was all wound up and did not want a bunch of inexperienced people getting to close until he sized up the situation, |
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Good. I've killed more deer and squirrels than I can count and eat everything I kill. These people that go to Africa to kill animals just for the fuck of it can choke themselves. View Quote You are the problem not them. Because you have no idea what it takes to balance the herd or make what is available balance out to the animals that are there. |
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Way too many faggots in this thread, OP included. View Quote I'm going with this. I have no desire to hunt an elephant; I rather like them. If you want to legally hunt one, help yourself. I'm OK with that, too. and yes, the meat is given to locals who will eat it down to the toenails. |
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Tuskless hunts are usually very affordable when they are available. If you want danger and a story to tell this is the hunt for you. Cows are significantly more aggressive than bulls, on average. Bluff charges are rare. Worse, you have to go into the cow herds to find a mature cow w/o calf. You're at close range, all the cows are aggressive, and you have to be sure you find the right animal and avoid hitting the others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I hunt bear with a bow, I know that it might get me killed, but that is part of the adventure. This gentleman understood that, once I save up enough I am going to do an African hunt, though I am not sure if I will do Elephant, that is pricey Tuskless hunts are usually very affordable when they are available. If you want danger and a story to tell this is the hunt for you. Cows are significantly more aggressive than bulls, on average. Bluff charges are rare. Worse, you have to go into the cow herds to find a mature cow w/o calf. You're at close range, all the cows are aggressive, and you have to be sure you find the right animal and avoid hitting the others. It is not the story to tell that I want, I have Cancer and realize that I have not done near as much in my life that I wanted to because i was always playing it safe, so now I live for me I have never eaten Elephant but would like to try it (and in case anyone cares I have tried to eat at least 1 of every species I have killed, Coyote, Wolf, and gopher are on my never eat again but still willing to hunt list, they taste awful ) |
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Good. I've killed more deer and squirrels than I can count and eat everything I kill. These people that go to Africa to kill animals just for the fuck of it can choke themselves. Nope They are not reading your explanation, they don't get the concept of paid hunts in Africa. It was probably a real old or nuisance animal on top of it. Locals kill and eat fine Hunter kills village eats, he pays a ton of cash that goes to conservation and local economy, like trackers, lodge employees, etc. Stop thinking like PETA and start thinking logic. I don't even hunt and I get the concept, fucking guys...muh feels... |
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They are not reading your explanation, they don't get the concept of paid hunts in Africa. It was probably a real old or nuisance animal on top of it. Locals kill and eat fine Hunter kills village eats, he pays a ton of cash that goes to conservation and local economy, like trackers, lodge employees, etc. Stop thinking like PETA and start thinking logic. I don't even hunt and I get the concept, fucking guys...muh feels... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good. I've killed more deer and squirrels than I can count and eat everything I kill. These people that go to Africa to kill animals just for the fuck of it can choke themselves. Nope They are not reading your explanation, they don't get the concept of paid hunts in Africa. It was probably a real old or nuisance animal on top of it. Locals kill and eat fine Hunter kills village eats, he pays a ton of cash that goes to conservation and local economy, like trackers, lodge employees, etc. Stop thinking like PETA and start thinking logic. I don't even hunt and I get the concept, fucking guys...muh feels... Yep. I like you |
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If I could buy an elephant a beer Why does a person with your screen name want to celebrate the death of another hunter? I'm betting that he sees hogs as vermin and food and sees elephants as wise cartoon characters who need a hug. Good call! Typical moon bat liberal logic! Kill rats but save the deers! Deer lives matter. i wouldnt even try to figure him out. it seems like gd is full of morans these days. |
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The only happy ending that's possible with an elephant hunt. Hope more scumbags like him get stomped. View Quote the only happy ending that more scumbags like you get banned. i can only hope you get stomped by the ban hammer. we dont need liberal trolls here in gd. guys like him are the only reason elephants are not extinct. if these hunts were not big money poachers and hungry africans would have killed every elephant by now. |
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The only happy ending that's possible with an elephant hunt. Hope more scumbags like him get stomped. View Quote the only happy ending that more scumbags like you get banned. i can only hope you get stomped by the ban hammer. we dont need liberal trolls here in gd. guys like him are the only reason elephants are not extinct. if these hunts were not big money poachers and hungry africans would have killed every elephant by now. |
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The hunter sometimes becomes the hunted. I thought this was somewhat of the thrill of hunting dangerous game. View Quote Yeah, it's a big part of the point, although the sympathies should always be with the person and not the animal when things go wrong (unless the hunter was just being a moron, which happens). I never understood the people who think a wild animal is more valuable than a person. It's a disgusting mentality, but it's always on display in these types of threads, despite the nature of this forum. |
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Where's our resident elephant hunter with his video of him brainpanning one?
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Honestly, I can think of worse ways to die. Like in your own poop in a nursing home. Better to die doing something you love. View Quote No kidding. For that matter, if I was an elephant, I 'm thinking that a .375 through the skull as you are wandering the plains in your late prime is probably one of the better deaths Africa has to offer. |
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I don't have anything against elephants; but one of these days I'm going to quad-.50 Dumbo in mid-air and video tape it just to see all the weenies in GD wail.
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People who hunt dangerous game or drive 200 mph are looking for an adrenaline rush. Why is there an adrenaline rush? Because you might die at any time. So why should anyone be surprised when it happens, and why is it even news?
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Dear bleeding hearts in this thread: Elephant hunting is one of the bigger incentives for the locals TO PROTECT THE ELEPHANTS RATHER THAN POACH THEM OR EAT THEM. African countries that do not hunt elephants have suffered steep declines in populations. The unintended consequenses of not hunting elephants is they die from out of control poaching. Yep +87 This is the kind of thread where Arfcom really could use more 'Fudds'. The LACK of knowledge being so freely shared would be hilarious, if it weren't so pathetic. |
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