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Posted: 4/19/2015 5:35:06 AM EDT
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. I don't hate Rs, I hate those who say they are and then stand with the Ds. If you have a republican congress, and a republican president . . . . . . . who are these Ds exactly whom they would be "standing with"? |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 5:37:27 AM EDT
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Cruz '16  |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 5:48:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: gonna be a (D), certainly, but i'm less and less certain that it'll be hillary. she seems to fragment the left in the way the right is already fragmented--she won't pass party purity tests, she's too white, too 'establishment', and has too much baggage. don't get me wrong--if she gets the nomination, she's in. the right is so fucked up that the dems could run the exhumed corpse of walter mondale and still win. but i don't know that she'll be able to skate through the primaries--i suspect we'll see another 'out of nowhere' empty suit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gonna be Hillabeth, sure as shit. gonna be a (D), certainly, but i'm less and less certain that it'll be hillary. she seems to fragment the left in the way the right is already fragmented--she won't pass party purity tests, she's too white, too 'establishment', and has too much baggage. don't get me wrong--if she gets the nomination, she's in. the right is so fucked up that the dems could run the exhumed corpse of walter mondale and still win. but i don't know that she'll be able to skate through the primaries--i suspect we'll see another 'out of nowhere' empty suit. Still alive. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 6:42:37 AM EDT
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Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. OP won't vote for 2 that passed SYG with civil immunity, cut the size, spending, .gov employees, taxes, scope of .gov and CAPITALIZES HIS lib dogwhistle HEADLINE  DREAM DEFENDERS!
The total number of Scott's signings remains two fewer than those inked by former Gov. Jeb Bush, who also affixed his name to a one-year record six pro-gun and pro-hunting bills in 2006. A year earlier, Bush had signed the "stand your ground" law. However, Bush's overall total of 14 new pro-guns laws came during eight years as the occupant of the Governor's Mansion. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20140711/florida-alert-governor-scotts-record-on-second-amendment-issues Jeb Bush is the 43rd governor of the state of Florida, serving from 1999 through 2007. He was the third Republican elected to the state's highest office and the only Republican in the state's history to be reelected. Governor Bush remained true to his conservative principles throughout his two terms – cutting $20 billion in taxes, vetoing more than $2.3 billion in earmarks and reducing the state government workforce by more than 13,000. His limited government approach help unleash one of the most robust economies in the nation, creating 1.4 million net new jobs and improving the state's credit ratings on Wall Street. http://www.iop.harvard.edu/jeb-bush |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 6:43:29 AM EDT
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I'm staying the fuck home.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 6:45:45 AM EDT
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I suspect that 90% of the people who post in these threads don't vote in the primary
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Posted: 4/19/2015 7:04:26 AM EDT
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No kidding: we (conservatives) always implode well before the election because none of our candidates are good (i.e. conservative) enough. I've got news for you: Goldwater and Reagan are dead and a "true" conservative isn't going to get enough moderate and crossover votes to win. In other words, you hard core "conservatives" will always be faced with voting for the lesser of two evils (IYO)...that or enabling the democrat with your "I'll show them, I'll vote 3rd party or not at all" attitude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. No kidding: we (conservatives) always implode well before the election because none of our candidates are good (i.e. conservative) enough. I've got news for you: Goldwater and Reagan are dead and a "true" conservative isn't going to get enough moderate and crossover votes to win. In other words, you hard core "conservatives" will always be faced with voting for the lesser of two evils (IYO)...that or enabling the democrat with your "I'll show them, I'll vote 3rd party or not at all" attitude. So what your saying is you prefer we have no principles and act like Dems who vote for anyone as long as it puts a W in the win column? I see this is just a big game to you like Yankees v Red Sox. It doesn't matter if the players are scumbags, you just want "your team" to get a W for a change. Nice way to go through life.  I'd rather die with no regrets.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 7:51:50 AM EDT
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So what your saying is you prefer we have no principles and act like Dems who vote for anyone as long as it puts a W in the win column? I see this is just a big game to you like Yankees v Red Sox. It doesn't matter if the players are scumbags, you just want "your team" to get a W for a change. Nice way to go through life. I'd rather die with no regrets.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. No kidding: we (conservatives) always implode well before the election because none of our candidates are good (i.e. conservative) enough. I've got news for you: Goldwater and Reagan are dead and a "true" conservative isn't going to get enough moderate and crossover votes to win. In other words, you hard core "conservatives" will always be faced with voting for the lesser of two evils (IYO)...that or enabling the democrat with your "I'll show them, I'll vote 3rd party or not at all" attitude. So what your saying is you prefer we have no principles and act like Dems who vote for anyone as long as it puts a W in the win column? I see this is just a big game to you like Yankees v Red Sox. It doesn't matter if the players are scumbags, you just want "your team" to get a W for a change. Nice way to go through life. I'd rather die with no regrets.I see this is all about feeling good about yourself for standing by your principles even if it does facilitate the election of the candidates most at odds with your cherished "principles. Insanity. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 8:12:02 AM EDT
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Who do you want selecting the next supreme court judge? Hillary or any of the 3? Might as well just ask, do you like owning firearms?
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:11:42 AM EDT
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Who do you want selecting the next supreme court judge? Hillary or any of the 3? Might as well just ask, do you like owning firearms? Lets just say. I'll own them until I die. When politicians leave you no choice but to be a criminal, I'm ok with being a criminal. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:12:15 AM EDT
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I have the same list, and I have been loyal to the party for twenty years. Same here. I will not vote for Rubio, Bush or Christie. I will vote for Hillary Clinton before I will vote for those 3. If the GOP nominee is one of those three then the GOP needs to lose the presidential race, the House and the Senate. I just might finally vote for a third party. Rubio was caught in a Spanish language interview saying he would not overturn Obama's executive order on amnesty and basically went back to supporting his Gang of 8 amnesty plan. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/17/marco-rubio-in-spanish-obamas-first-executive-amnesty-important-people-benefitting-from-it/ |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:21:49 AM EDT
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If you have a republican congress, and a republican president . . . . . . . who are these Ds exactly whom they would be "standing with"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. I don't hate Rs, I hate those who say they are and then stand with the Ds. If you have a republican congress, and a republican president . . . . . . . who are these Ds exactly whom they would be "standing with"? The d principles, you goofball. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:26:00 AM EDT
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I suspect that 90% of the people who post in these threads don't vote in the primary I go to vote in every election. Even when it is just a local proposal election or school tax vote. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:28:29 AM EDT
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Do you all seriously still think that these "elections" have a snowballs chance in hell of changing the path we have been on for the better part of 100 years? I'm seriously asking. I can't decide if I'm just cynical or finally broken free of the Matrix. I'm pretty certain whether I vote or not isn't going to change one fucking thing that the people who control us decide to do. I have to agree. I think we are pretty locked in regardless of what happens. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:30:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:30:35 AM EDT
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If Cruz isnt an option, you're telling us you're willing to give the Dems the country on a silver platter? SMH little early to strike anyone out IMO. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:31:11 AM EDT
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I said the same thing about McCain and Romney. Ended up changing my mind once they became the only ones left that didn't totally suck on every single issue. I can't figure out who in the hell votes for these idiots in the primaries unless it's democrats.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:32:23 AM EDT
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If you have a republican congress, and a republican president . . . . . . . who are these Ds exactly whom they would be "standing with"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. I don't hate Rs, I hate those who say they are and then stand with the Ds. If you have a republican congress, and a republican president . . . . . . . who are these Ds exactly whom they would be "standing with"? why the Republicans of course. Bush showed quite clearly that republicans are fantastic democrats when they are in charge. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:36:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. Just imagine if these midgets spent 1/10th the energy they do attacking Republicans on attacking Democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! Imagine if all of this republican hate was directed toward democrats. Indeed. Just imagine if these midgets spent 1/10th the energy they do attacking Republicans on attacking Democrats. What is there to attack on the democrat side? We know Hilary, we know Warren, they are Lenin v. Trotsky on the other side. We (Republicans) need to focus on finding someone who can fix this shit show and worry about marketing after we have chosen our candidate. Anyone with a 1/4th a brain can attack the left, it's not difficult or really helpful to do so while we are trying to winnow our field. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:38:48 AM EDT
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I can't believe that I'm gonna have to listen to another 18 months of this shit to just end up with whoever the Dems decide to nominate.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:41:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you all seriously still think that these "elections" have a snowballs chance in hell of changing the path we have been on for the better part of 100 years? I'm seriously asking. I can't decide if I'm just cynical or finally broken free of the Matrix. I'm pretty certain whether I vote or not isn't going to change one fucking thing that the people who control us decide to do. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. When you think your vote doesn't count and you don't vote, and many others feel the same, the voting pool condenses and makes marketing to voting blocks easier. This makes it easier for wealthy candidates/parties/machines to win elections, and as we have seen, those people don't have the Constitution's best interest as heart. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:44:17 AM EDT
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Cruz bots?
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:48:50 AM EDT
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It's very simple. Vigorously support your guy in the primary but come home for general.
Or wring your hands like a child and watch all your rights disappear. . |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:55:55 AM EDT
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! I'm with you |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:01:46 AM EDT
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Those three suck, but Cruz won't make a good president. We've had a senator with no experience running the show for several years now, that doesn't work out. I don't care if Cruz the most conservative guy in the room, get me a seasoned governor that knows how to run shit. The problems with Obama are numerous. Here is a short list: 1) He hates America. 2) He is a liberal of the worst degree. 3) He is a socialist 4) His Muslim leanings/devotion are not in the best interests of the USA 5) He is using his race to become dictatorial. Place any conservative in the office and he would do better. I would do far more for this country and I am not even a US Senator. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:05:48 AM EDT
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It's a race to the bottom. Will you vote for a candidate that will slow the descent or not? Any candidate that gets on the ballot has been bought and paid for by big money. Any Republican who stands a chance of winning is going to be worse for this country that others who don't have a chance. Anybody who votes is voting for the lesser of two evils, all choices are bad.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:18:03 AM EDT
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I'll vote for any candidate who:
Says they will veto any federal budget that does not reduce spending to 92.25% of revenues (with the remaining 7.25% of revenue applied directly to the national debt) through a combination of cutting federal spending and raising taxes on at least a two-to-one ratio Who brings all U.S. military personnel back with our borders, and then uses them to secure said borders Says nothing for or against abortion Says they want to end all .gov involvement in heterosexual and same-sex marriage Will end all sex, gender identiy, racial, economic, past military service, location (e.g.,HUBZones) preferences in what little .gov contracting remains Who panders not to the FSA complex or the military-industrial complex Will veto any plan for an amnesty for illegal immigrants Will work to end the war on drugs via legalization Will make issuance of export permits for everything automatic (i.e.,gut ITAR) Will end all domestic surveillance of Americans, except where a warrant is issued by a court of competent jurisdiction Will repeal 95% of the Executive Orders issued by every Preisdent, through combining delegations of Presidential authority into One order for all agencies; all EOs not addressing delegation of a specific statutory authority are rescinded, period. I would keep going, but just this short list means there are no candidates I'll vote for. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:24:24 AM EDT
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SARVIS 2016! Spoil all the things! Did you read the article that reported that the vast majority of electronic voting machines in Virginia in the last and very possibly the previous presidential election could be wirelessly accessed... HACKED... and vote changes/totals altered WITHOUT A TRACE using the admin password ADMIN OR ABCDE? So tell me again how sacred the ballot box is... And tell me again how when I went to sleep in 08 and 12 with McStain and Romney holding huge leads in Va, bigger than the totals of the DC burbs that I wake up and FBHO wins Va decisively? |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:38:53 AM EDT
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I suspect that 90% of the people who post in these threads don't vote in the primary That is where it matters. Why people worry about who is running at this point is just silly. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:46:57 AM EDT
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Maybe we should look for a moderate, reasonable, and down to Earth candidiate. Someone that really appeals to the middle ground, and has fresh ideas.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:48:26 AM EDT
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So, God Forbid, someone like Rubio gets the nod, youre not going to vote for him? The next President will likely assign 4 supreme court justices. While some may point out Justice Roberts and Ocare, thats one issue. How could liberal justices have voted on other integral cases over the last 10 years? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Cruz isnt an option, you're telling us you're willing to give the Dems the country on a silver platter? SMH Nope, not at all. There are a few that I would vote for, but right now, I believe Cruz is the best candidate. Who else are you considering? I would vote for Paul or Fiorina, possibly others, but not for the ones I mentioned. So, God Forbid, someone like Rubio gets the nod, youre not going to vote for him? The next President will likely assign 4 supreme court justices. While some may point out Justice Roberts and Ocare, thats one issue. How could liberal justices have voted on other integral cases over the last 10 years? I just won't vote or I'll vote 3rd party! I'll show them! 
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:49:29 AM EDT
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Well, I guess your strategy did work well in the last couple Presidential elections, oh....wait, that's right it failed fucking miserably, so thank you for getting fbho elected, TWICE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, I guess your strategy did work well in the last couple Presidential elections, oh....wait, that's right it failed fucking miserably, so thank you for getting fbho elected, TWICE. And who do you think would have beaten Obama? Gary Johnson? That would have been a great strategy right?
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:53:26 AM EDT
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The r party is the same as the d party. If some of you dumb fuckers would figure that out maybe we could get on with life. All incumbents need to go, period. That's the only way we're ever going to see change.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:00:54 AM EDT
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The d principles, you goofball. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't hate Rs, I hate those who say they are and then stand with the Ds. If you have a republican congress, and a republican president . . . . . . . who are these Ds exactly whom they would be "standing with"? The d principles, you goofball. Reported to staff. 
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:40:55 AM EDT
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What is there to attack on the democrat side? We know Hilary, we know Warren, they are Lenin v. Trotsky on the other side. We (Republicans) need to focus on finding someone who can fix this shit show and worry about marketing after we have chosen our candidate. Anyone with a 1/4th a brain can attack the left, it's not difficult or really helpful to do so while we are trying to winnow our field. The same can be said about Christie and now Bush. Why do we need a daily affirmation of our collective hatred of them but not democrats? There are many children here who simply never hear a negative thing about democrats. Pop culture, the little news they see, the leftist oriented websites they visit, all are cheerleaders for democrats. Reminding people what scumbags the democrats are - all of them- allows a reference point, so we don't hear vapid responses like "Rubio/Bush are democrats". People that say shit like that have no clue how damaging a democrat on the loose is, even though Obama is on the center stage of the circus. Just yesterday a long time member here tried to claim that democrats do not legislate their morality, and apparently environmentalism, gun control, the social justice circus train, and behavior modifying tax schemes simply do not exist. Is that individual a liar? Insane? Democrat infiltrator? All of the above? Who knows. It's probable that he is under 30 and his entire life he's been exposed to nothing but Repub-bashing. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:17:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect that 90% of the people who post in these threads don't vote in the primary The last time I voted in a primary was 2008, and the last Republican challenger to McCain dropped out while I was standing in line waiting for the primary to open. The Primary system gives the morons in Iowa and New Hampshire full control of the election process. By the time populated, conservative states get a primary the candidate is already chosen. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:18:54 PM EDT
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. CRUZ ftmfw!!!! add Romney. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:20:16 PM EDT
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Bush Rubio Christie AND, in before the "lesser of two evils", "congrats on electing hillery", etc... crowd. You are fucking brainwashed and your way has been a complete failure, so you can take it and shove it right up your ass. Well look who's "fucking brainwashed". 
PS: Learn how to spell you <Removed - CoC 6 - T7> |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:30:52 PM EDT
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I`ll take the job for free. I promise to resign in two weeks. All will be good.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:35:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:47:07 PM EDT
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It's very simple. Vigorously support your guy in the primary but come home for general. Or wring your hands like a child and watch all your rights disappear. . Boom |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:54:20 PM EDT
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I agree on Jeb and Cristy, but I don't consider Rubio a deal breaker. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:23:47 PM EDT
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Gonna be Hillabeth, sure as shit. Yep, cause voting is for losers. Yet we'll continue to bitch about the candidates, the results and lack of or too many accomplishments...until the next election. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:26:08 PM EDT
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Not a scare tactic, its just how things work. Dems are willing to compromise on certain things in order to get their people into power. For some reason Conservatives are not recently. I totally understand why, but I dont think that tactic will work as they think it will. The only thing it will really guarantee is Dems in power for the foreseeable future. The GOP wont get out of its own way in order to please true conservatives. Truth. "We" on the other hand, won't vote for anything but the perfect conservative candidate...what/whomever that is. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:58:10 PM EDT
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The same can be said about Christie and now Bush. Why do we need a daily affirmation of our collective hatred of them but not democrats? There are many children here who simply never hear a negative thing about democrats. Pop culture, the little news they see, the leftist oriented websites they visit, all are cheerleaders for democrats. Reminding people what scumbags the democrats are - all of them- allows a reference point, so we don't hear vapid responses like "Rubio/Bush are democrats". People that say shit like that have no clue how damaging a democrat on the loose is, even though Obama is on the center stage of the circus. Just yesterday a long time member here tried to claim that democrats do not legislate their morality, and apparently environmentalism, gun control, the social justice circus train, and behavior modifying tax schemes simply do not exist. Is that individual a liar? Insane? Democrat infiltrator? All of the above? Who knows. It's probable that he is under 30 and his entire life he's been exposed to nothing but Repub-bashing. Lotta truth there. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:40:03 AM EDT
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So, do you believe McCain and Romney both lost because they appealed to too many people? Or was it in fact the opposite? NOBODY could have won in 2008 as a Republican, least of all the guy running as a third term for a president with approval below 30%. Not advocating another establishment loser, just questioning the validity of this popular opinion here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh please. I'm Canadian and even I know what he's talking about. The good old "we need someone who can appeal to the moderate crowd" bullshit strategy. So, do you believe McCain and Romney both lost because they appealed to too many people? Or was it in fact the opposite? NOBODY could have won in 2008 as a Republican, least of all the guy running as a third term for a president with approval below 30%. Not advocating another establishment loser, just questioning the validity of this popular opinion here. I agree 100%. The Rs were taking the fall for the financial crisis (brought on by liberal agendas but that [too] has been hashed out numerous times before) and the majority voted with their paycheck: D. What I can't believe is that 0 won a 2nd time, but that too has been hashed out already. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:16:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The r party is the same as the d party. If some of you dumb fuckers would figure that out maybe we could get on with life. All incumbents need to go, period. That's the only way we're ever going to see change. lol |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:24:05 AM EDT
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Anyone who thinks Ted Cruz will be elected by the same country that just put BHO in office twice is living in their own little fantasy world.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:28:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:58:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those three suck, but Cruz won't make a good president. We've had a senator with no experience running the show for several years now, that doesn't work out. I don't care if Cruz the most conservative guy in the room, get me a seasoned governor that knows how to run shit. |
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