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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:06:50 AM EDT
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Article in HuffPo, the comments
 Writer added the quote To look at the ivory, is all the info the emotional masses needed to be glad the hunter died, and hate on anyone that defends the hunter. All with the knowledge, "The article says he was looking for the ivory" What I don't think all those emotional twats are aware of is that the author probably put that in there as red meat for the vegans to chew on. One commenter defended hunting and he now has about 200 people hoping he dies, and urging his employer to fire him. They are literally contacting his employer, via facebook to fire the man This story is a case study in liberalism.
I personally would not want to kill an elephant but they are very plentiful on the southern end of Africa. The northern part of their range is where they are endangered. This hunt was in Zimbabwe, where elephants are plentiful. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:08:21 AM EDT
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Maybe he's hunting heffalumps and woozles in the afterlife now.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:08:42 AM EDT
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The comments on that story made my head hurt
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:10:50 AM EDT
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The doubts about shooting the elephant layed heavily on his heart.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:11:27 AM EDT
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Jeez people, chill. I said karma as in "he was planning to kill THAT particular elephant and he got his ass whooped". Yeah, everyone with just a bit of common sense understands what population control means and how hunts like that one contribute (financially) to the well-being of the entire species. It was that easy to presume that I'm a hippie...  Yugoslavia, hippy words, so um yeah |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:12:25 AM EDT
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Good
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:15:32 AM EDT
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It said he kept getting closer and closer to the elephant. Play stupid games...
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:17:17 AM EDT
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He died doing what he loved. 
Being trampled by pachyderms? |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:24:49 AM EDT
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Quoted: Karma sometimes bites back. , I had hoped that the '13er class would mature!!! |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:39:53 AM EDT
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Some of the comments by the "elephant lovers" sicken me. Such hypocrisy. Hessian-1  Thats what I was noticing, the huff poo readers go ape shit when a cop killer is on death row, but openly advocate killing hunters and cheer at their deaths. Thats the ironic thing, unfortunatly very typical of the lefties. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:45:01 AM EDT
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Its called "dangerous game" for a reason. Nice to see the definition substantiated again.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:48:02 AM EDT
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Game over.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:51:08 AM EDT
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/17/hunter-ian-gibson-trampled-death-elephant-tracking-kill_n_7085374.html Karma sometimes bites back. And while on that topic, what round for an elephant? .950 Nitro Express? .303BR |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:54:20 AM EDT
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Lol karma, like the hunter is inherently bad. Nature is dangerous, karma has nothing to do with it; unless you're all about the feels Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/17/hunter-ian-gibson-trampled-death-elephant-tracking-kill_n_7085374.html Karma sometimes bites back. And while on that topic, what round for an elephant? .950 Nitro Express? Lol karma, like the hunter is inherently bad. Nature is dangerous, karma has nothing to do with it; unless you're all about the feels |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:54:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Karma? Yeah sure.. what's karma doing to you for those hundred of thousand bugs you've killed driving down the highway at night? edit: OK your off the hook hippie.If not for hunters ironically there probably wouldn't have the population of elephants we have now. Conservation relies on hunter's money heavily. article with numbers and shit |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:57:38 AM EDT
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Jeez people, chill. I said karma as in "he was planning to kill THAT particular elephant and he got his ass whooped". Yeah, everyone with just a bit of common sense understands what population control means and how hunts like that one contribute (financially) to the well-being of the entire species. It was that easy to presume that I'm a hippie... I think that would be irony instead of karma. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:59:33 AM EDT
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thats why its called dangerous game hunting,its not karma
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:59:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:01:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:06:02 AM EDT
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Death in the long grass. A very polarizing subject, Elephant hunting and Im sure ARFCOM will deliver on both counts. The PH was a well respected man and it just goes to show, that when its your time, its your time. Of course flirting with the odds does affect the averages. Horrible way to go in some peoples minds but as a PH, he might have just gone out like he wanted, if it was to come down to this type of scenario. Far worse things than to buy it doing something you love dearly. Yep I'm sure he loved getting bulldozed by a giant elephant.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:06:40 AM EDT
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That's 5-7 tons, actually. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Tragically killed?" WTF is that nonesence. Tragic is a 2 year old drowning, or a group from prom getting wiped out by a drunk driver. This falls into the Darwin category. Go pissing off a 2 ton animal, things happen. I mean, yeah, it's his job or whatever, but there are certain inherent risks in that profession. That's 5-7 tons, actually. Cheerfully updated! Thanks for the correction. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:09:41 AM EDT
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Yep I'm sure he loved getting bulldozed by a giant elephant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Death in the long grass. A very polarizing subject, Elephant hunting and Im sure ARFCOM will deliver on both counts. The PH was a well respected man and it just goes to show, that when its your time, its your time. Of course flirting with the odds does affect the averages. Horrible way to go in some peoples minds but as a PH, he might have just gone out like he wanted, if it was to come down to this type of scenario. Far worse things than to buy it doing something you love dearly. Yep I'm sure he loved getting bulldozed by a giant elephant. And I'll bet he would have stayed the fuck home if he could have peered into the future and seen how this was going to pan out. This guy didn't have "courage", he simply thought this wouldn't happen. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:09:45 AM EDT
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As with most things, I imagine it was a series of poor decisions that put him in that spot.
These guys track elephants and other animals for a living, and they surely see signs and situations that normally cause them to back off. I'm wondering if the AAR will be able to identify any of these decision junctions. If you are within 50-100m of an elephant, there's not much margin for error. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:27:17 AM EDT
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No so much. In certain areas of Africa they are over populated and cause a lot of problems for farmers and villages. It's legal to hunt them in some of the countries in Africa and are managed a lot like our deer, elk, goat... etc herds here in the US. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought elephants are endangered?? No so much. In certain areas of Africa they are over populated and cause a lot of problems for farmers and villages. It's legal to hunt them in some of the countries in Africa and are managed a lot like our deer, elk, goat... etc herds here in the US. Yeah, only dear, elk, and goat dont tend to have near sentient Intelligence, self recognition, communication. I'm not a tree hugger, I'm fine with killing some animals, but I truly believe dolphins, whales, elephants, and some primates have intelligence we dont understand yet, and killing them without that understanding is irresponsible. I know the whole population control argument is valid, they are destroying our towns and farms, but whenever I hear of animals being "culled" to keep human land in good shape, I'm always reminded of a Sci fi novel I read where aliens show up and just start killing humans by the millions, no warning, no communication, no demands. When we finally are able to communicate with them, they're shocked that we can communicate. They were merely clearing this to make way for their people and merely saw us as bug or trees or whatever, just needing to be killed to make way for their plans. It's all about perspective. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:30:34 AM EDT
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RIP. Better to die like this, a man engaged in a struggle, than simply wither away after a life of tepid mediocrity.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 2:54:40 PM EDT
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RIP
He probably "lived" more than most people twice his age. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:33:16 PM EDT
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Every time I see a thread like this posted, it makes me wish Walt Disney would've died at birth.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:47:38 PM EDT
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Shit happens.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:53:21 PM EDT
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Just heartbreaking. Prayers and condolences to his family, friends, and Chifuti Safaris.
I first heard about this first over at africanhunting. It just illustrates the pressures these PHs are under. If he shoots the damn thing he'd be under immediate suspicion and presumed guilty of an unjustified shooting. And of course after 5 hrs of tracking the last thing he wanted to do was kill what was likely a trophy bull for his client. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:55:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I'll bet he would have stayed the fuck home if he could have peered into the future and seen how this was going to pan out. This guy didn't have "courage", he simply thought this wouldn't happen. Doubt it. Some men have a burning desire to live their life on the edge and push things to the limit. That dude probably got more out of life in 10 minutes than most basement dwellers get in 60 years. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 5:47:13 PM EDT
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Looks like arfcom is trying to give Huffpo a run for their money in the stupid comment category.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 8:03:25 PM EDT
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Things didn't exactly go as planned.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 8:55:51 PM EDT
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/17/hunter-ian-gibson-trampled-death-elephant-tracking-kill_n_7085374.html Karma sometimes bites back. And while on that topic, what round for an elephant? .950 Nitro Express? Karma? In answer to your question, Karamojo Bell apparently preferred the 7X57, and used it to kill around 800 elephants. HE died of old age, so I guess HIS karma didn't catch up to him. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:23:48 PM EDT
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Karma? In answer to your question, Karamojo Bell apparently preferred the 7X57, and used it to kill around 800 elephants. HE died of old age, so I guess HIS karma didn't catch up to him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/17/hunter-ian-gibson-trampled-death-elephant-tracking-kill_n_7085374.html Karma sometimes bites back. And while on that topic, what round for an elephant? .950 Nitro Express? Karma? In answer to your question, Karamojo Bell apparently preferred the 7X57, and used it to kill around 800 elephants. HE died of old age, so I guess HIS karma didn't catch up to him. I read once that Bell used a .318 boltgun to sit and shoot big storks ( or some large bird by the water) because some of that lot of ammo was faulty. he didn't miss flying birds very often with a .30-06 class rifle. he didn't depend on karma for one second; that man could handle a boomstick like few others in history. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:33:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Karma? In answer to your question, Karamojo Bell apparently preferred the 7X57, and used it to kill around 800 elephants. HE died of old age, so I guess HIS karma didn't catch up to him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/17/hunter-ian-gibson-trampled-death-elephant-tracking-kill_n_7085374.html Karma sometimes bites back. And while on that topic, what round for an elephant? .950 Nitro Express? Karma? In answer to your question, Karamojo Bell apparently preferred the 7X57, and used it to kill around 800 elephants. HE died of old age, so I guess HIS karma didn't catch up to him. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:44:06 PM EDT
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Things didn't exactly go as planned. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff258/rednex73/1426733111199_zpsnnsb50vz.gif</img /> Nope, nope, fucking nope. I'd crap my fucking pants. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:59:19 PM EDT
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So I guess he's seen the elephant.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:04:00 PM EDT
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So I guess he's seen the elephant. 
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:07:33 PM EDT
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Death in the long grass. A very polarizing subject, Elephant hunting and Im sure ARFCOM will deliver on both counts. The PH was a well respected man and it just goes to show, that when its your time, its your time. Of course flirting with the odds does affect the averages. Horrible way to go in some peoples minds but as a PH, he might have just gone out like he wanted, if it was to come down to this type of scenario. Far worse things than to buy it doing something you love dearly. Nah. Just a horrible way to go. I mean it's a romantic thought, but getting squashed into strawberry jam by an enraged animal is pretty horrifying. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:29:16 PM EDT
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So I guess he's seen the elephant. "See Stan, you get me" |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:39:23 PM EDT
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Things didn't exactly go as planned. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff258/rednex73/1426733111199_zpsnnsb50vz.gif</img /> Pure awesome. 
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Posted: 4/19/2015 9:44:04 AM EDT
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So I guess he's seen the elephant. that's not really what that old saying was meant to convey. a little too literal. 
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:09:08 AM EDT
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That's the game he played, and hi lost this time. I think is fair, is a fair game, isn't it? As an old Marine buddy of mine used to say, "The Lord giveth, and The Lord taketh away...if that ain't a square deal I'll kiss your ass". |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:10:23 AM EDT
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Can the Ivory from an elephant hunt be kept and brought back to the US?
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:11:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:30:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:34:04 AM EDT
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Yes..the othe thread is a dupe  Quote HistorySo no gold star then? |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:38:42 AM EDT
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RIP.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:39:08 AM EDT
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elephants kill people a lot in Africa. Its part of the risk . That's why it's called dangerous game hunting. He was not hunting fluffy bunnies http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/jimanders1967/Shooting/Funny/rabbit_zpsu2hezvi5.jpg Night.of.the.Lupus! |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:41:00 AM EDT
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So no gold star then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
So no gold star then? But it's more bigger
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