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Posted: 3/31/2015 11:07:04 PM EDT
https://www.facebook.com/LibertySafe/posts/10153191769419589
I'll take my chances with my "residential safety container" Liberty Safe, thank you very much. |
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Dope, I just read the FB link. I thought you were bashing the safe, but this is indeed what a positive outcome looks like. That must just be some water that carried ash onto the butt stocks, which will probably wipe right off.
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Dude needs to put a Golden Rod in there, his safe is rusting.
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Is that a 100 round box of 22 on the 2nd shelf from the bottom? If it is, get a new safe quick!
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I'm working on a Liberty safe dealer this week. They have one of those toasted safes. And another one that is been pryed on and shot up. I might end up with a pistol safe buy the end of this job.
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I am sorry but liberty safes are junk. That safe while charred, I doubt was subjected to high temperatures for any significant amount of time. I would like to see a broader shot of the safe. I am betting seeing that broader shot would show the fire was not as bad as it would appear by zooming in on the safe.
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I have a Liberty, hope it's fire-proofness never gets tested like that. The dealer tried to sell me one with an even higher fire rating that would be great for an hour.
I told him there was no such thing as an hour long mobile home fire. |
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Safes are great, especially for irreplaceable items but at the end of the day a good insurance policy trumps a safe.
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Quoted: I have a Liberty, hope it's fire-proofness never gets tested like that. The dealer tried to sell me one with an even higher fire rating that would be great for an hour. I told him there was no such thing as an hour long mobile home fire. View Quote |
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I am sorry but liberty safes are junk. That safe while charred, I doubt was subjected to high temperatures for any significant amount of time. I would like to see a broader shot of the safe. I am betting seeing that broader shot would show the fire was not as bad as it would appear by zooming in on the safe. You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZikSlwWm30#t=93 Well, at least they have a "limited lifetime warranty" so you know if anything goes wrong they will stand behind it. |
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I am sorry but liberty safes are junk. That safe while charred, I doubt was subjected to high temperatures for any significant amount of time. I would like to see a broader shot of the safe. I am betting seeing that broader shot would show the fire was not as bad as it would appear by zooming in on the safe. You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZikSlwWm30#t=93 No I mean something like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M That is a liberty safe btw that got they pried open in less than two minutes. In addition, did you notice in your video that there were no guns in the safe primarily paper? Paper doesn't rust, metal subjected to high temps would rust and had their been plastic parts (ar15) on a gun they would have been melted off. Btw, there is another video out there of a liberty safe being opened up like a tin can using nothing more than a splitting maul. You want to trust your valuables to a liberty knock your self out. |
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If you look closely, you will see a Liberty safe still standing tall and intact after the EF5 tornado in Moore OK. The dealer gave the owner a new safe and this one now sits on the dealer's floor as a tornado survivor. None of the contents of the safe were damaged in any way, the door was undamaged except for paint and easily opened normally. The house was totally destroyed. http://i.imgur.com/QLx69zj.png View Quote I would submit that any safe properly bolted to the concrete pad in that exact location would have survived. But this proved nothing, forces exerted on the safe from wind and wind driven projectiles is not the same as someone attacking the safe with tools. |
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So who makes the best safes? View Quote In my opinion American Security BF series (~$4,000) are great but the really top end would be their TL series (~$9,000) I am guessing on the prices as it has been a few years since I looked at them. In addition there is a guy here who is a professional locksmith I think that can weigh in as well. |
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No I mean something like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M That is a liberty safe btw that got they pried open in less than two minutes. In addition, did you notice in your video that there were no guns in the safe primarily paper? Paper doesn't rust, metal subjected to high temps would rust and had their been plastic parts (ar15) on a gun they would have been melted off. Btw, there is another video out there of a liberty safe being opened up like a tin can using nothing more than a splitting maul. You want to trust your valuables to a liberty knock your self out. https://i.imgflip.com/jlf4b.jpg Just a dude whose done a ton of research and looked most brands of safes in person. Liberty safe are junk. |
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Thank god the Jameson is safe, you're gonna need it
If a normal hobo lives in fridge box, does a high class hobo live in a safe? |
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Just a dude whose done a ton of research and looked most brands of safes in person. Liberty safe are junk. View Quote Wasn't calling you the competitor marketing guy, but the guy in the youtube vidya. Is any $1000 safe as good as a $4000 safe? probably not. Would meth head cheese dicks be able to get in that liberty safe if it was bolted to the floor and placed in a corner where said meth head cheese dicks would be unable to get leverage with a prybar? Not unless they had better tools and a lot more time. |
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Wasn't calling you the competitor marketing guy, but the guy in the youtube vidya. Is any $1000 safe as good as a $4000 safe? probably not. Would meth head cheese dicks be able to get in that liberty safe if it was bolted to the floor and placed in a corner where said meth head cheese dicks would be unable to get leverage with a prybar? Not unless they had better tools and a lot more time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just a dude whose done a ton of research and looked most brands of safes in person. Liberty safe are junk. Wasn't calling you the competitor marketing guy, but the guy in the youtube vidya. Is any $1000 safe as good as a $4000 safe? probably not. Would meth head cheese dicks be able to get in that liberty safe if it was bolted to the floor and placed in a corner where said meth head cheese dicks would be unable to get leverage with a prybar? Not unless they had better tools and a lot more time. Agreed, but if all you are looking for is smash and grab protection, you can buy that for a lot less than $1,000. Now having said that, even a $10,000 safe can be broken into given enough time and the proper tools. The goal is to make it too time consuming and loud for someone to be able to break into it before they are discovered. That is where some sort of alarm system would help reduce the time available. |
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I like Liberty and I would have gone w/them if the
Liberty dealer here in Tucson wasn't such an ass. I am more concerned w/forced entry than fire or weather, living in the desert, but the RSC I ended up with more that fits the bill. |
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I can personally attest that Liberty will stand behind their lifetime warranty.
I lost a safe in September (Liberty Presidential). I bought it in 1996. The dealer I bought it from dug through the attic and found my original purchase order (Liberty Safe, Sacramento, CA) even though it had been almost 20 years. Liberty gave me absolutely no hassle. They sent me paperwork, I filled it out, they sent me a new safe to the closest dealer. I paid for shipping only. When I bought my Liberty, it was $3200. The new one was almost $6K, and Liberty also decked the new safe with lights, an outlet, dehumidifier, and door storage--all things my old safe did not have. When I called Liberty to make sure a mistake wasn't made, they said "When you bought your safe in 1996, you bought our top of the line. We replaced it with the same model, top of the line." Liberty is good in my book. |
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So who makes the best safes? View Quote If you have the time, I really, really recommend reading ARFcom's own safe thread. There's some very knowledgeable people posting in that thread that will provide the information you seek. You really don't know what you want until you learn a little about safes. Read the thread. |
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If you look closely, you will see a Liberty safe still standing tall and intact after the EF5 tornado in Moore OK. The dealer gave the owner a new safe and this one now sits on the dealer's floor as a tornado survivor. None of the contents of the safe were damaged in any way, the door was undamaged except for paint and easily opened normally. The house was totally destroyed. http://i.imgur.com/QLx69zj.png After some cleanup http://i.imgur.com/heVWtHr.jpg View Quote That's pretty cool. |
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I can personally attest that Liberty will stand behind their lifetime warranty. I lost a safe in September (Liberty Presidential). I bought it in 1996. The dealer I bought it from dug through the attic and found my original purchase order (Liberty Safe, Sacramento, CA) even though it had been almost 20 years. Liberty gave me absolutely no hassle. They sent me paperwork, I filled it out, they sent me a new safe to the closest dealer. I paid for shipping only. When I bought my Liberty, it was $3200. The new one was almost $6K, and Liberty also decked the new safe with lights, an outlet, dehumidifier, and door storage--all things my old safe did not. When I called Liberty to make sure a mistake wasn't made, they said "When you bought your safe in 1996, you bought our top of the line. We replaced it with the same model, top of the line." Liberty is good in my book. View Quote That type of customer service is what wins people over. I'll buy a safe at some point when I buy a house. stories speak louder than advertising |
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