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Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:40:11 PM EDT
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It's like these people live in some alternative fantasy universe where everyone's their idealized version of conservative and gives the first solitary fuck about the US Constitution.

It pains me to have to say this, but this is Obama's America, now. He has fundamentally transformed the country, as he had promised to do. The Rs failed to stop him because the Rs played by the rules while FBHO shit all over the Constitution. Interesting times are coming . . .

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It started long before Obama. FDR single-handedly sealed the fate of this country. LBJ and Obama just tossed a few more logs on.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:41:12 PM EDT
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He wont be held accountable. Hell, no one has! Just another dog and pony show.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:42:50 PM EDT
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If they didn't nail him for the treasonous act of trading five terrorists for a known traitor, they aren't going to get him on anything.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:43:23 PM EDT
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Good.  Fuck that asshole.  I hope he rots in hell!  He is a worthless, cocksucking, piece of shit!  His mother should have done the world a favor and had an abortion!
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I am fighting here in RI to maintain our RKBS rights, and thank Heaven most of us have not submitted.

Some of us, at least, have not become craven defeatists.
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We're not talking about eating the edges of one issue (gun laws) in the smallest state in the country, here.

And meanwhile, you're licking the same boots as the rest of us if you want a carry permit - right?
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:52:11 PM EDT
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Israeli voters and senate be racist yo...
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Kings don't take to kindly to being investigated. Though I wish this would go somewhere
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 5:59:36 PM EDT
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Yay let's waste some more taxpayer money and not do shit in the end.
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The fact that we here in little RI have stopped the anti-gunners in their tracks since 1994 (AWB Ban era) says something, I think.  Unfortunately, MA and CT have suffered serious RKBA reversals, while RI has maintained all rights.  We are pursuing various means to broaden our admittedly restricted CCW rights, and about that I will not elaborate.

The fact that we here haven't turned over and exposed our bellies like a submissive dog might have something to do with our success so far.  

Certainly NOT listening to doomsayers and defeatists has stood us in good stead.
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What, is it some big secret now?

Good luck with your efforts - you'll have the nicest arms locker on your tiny deck of the Titanic.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:07:40 PM EDT
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Not for nothing, but how goes the RKBA struggle in VA?  All well there?
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Yes. Although, things like repealing the "one gun a month" law and "no concealed carry in bars" law don't really matter in the grand scheme if the MUCH larger and more powerful federal government is a total, systemic loss.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:07:57 PM EDT
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zero fucks will be given. Obama could stab the dude in the head with a stake knife and nothing will happen.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:08:50 PM EDT
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Realistically I don't think anything will come of this but at the same time, I'm not willing to throw in the towel and give the Kenyan a free pass on everything. It's seldom the scandal that ends politicians, but rather the cover up. Keep pushing and maybe we get lucky and obama steps on his dick bad enough even the Dems can't keep supporting him. Doubt it'll happen but seems a better alternative than sitting around sucking his dick.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:10:29 PM EDT
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Realistically I don't think anything will come of this but at the same time, I'm not willing to throw in the towel and give the Kenyan a free pass on everything. It's seldom the scandal that ends politicians, but rather the cover up. Keep pushing and maybe we get lucky and obama steps on his dick bad enough even the Dems can't keep supporting him. Doubt it'll happen but seems a better alternative than sitting around sucking his dick.
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Unless it repeals Obamacare, de-nukes Iran, removes ISIS from Iraq, and kicks Putin in the nuts, it's not really going to matter at this point. He could resign in disgrace tomorrow and none of those problems would be fixed.
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Win, lose, or draw, at least some of us will not be accused of surrendering.  
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What, is it some big secret now?

Good luck with your efforts - you'll have the nicest arms locker on your tiny deck of the Titanic.


Win, lose, or draw, at least some of us will not be accused of surrendering.  


Surrendering what? Your prime deckchair on the Titanic?
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:13:19 PM EDT
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What are you doing, exactly? I mean things that might actually work.

Congress doesn't give the first solitary fuck about what you or I think, and to over half the country, Obama might as well be Moses.
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Isn't it interesting to see all the hopeless, despairing, defeatist comments?

So many.  So many.

It's almost as if there were some here who actually wanted to make the rest of us feel dispirited and defeatist.

Cass Sunstein would approve: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/yes-paid-government-trolls-social-media-blogs-forums-websites/.

At this point, it's not any question that some here are whipped dogs.

The question is:  When will you turn on your Master?


Yeah, we're all - 4 pages worth of us - government trolls. Not realists.

Go ahead and bite the master, let us know how that works out for you.


sorry to see you have surrendered.




What are you doing, exactly? I mean things that might actually work.

Congress doesn't give the first solitary fuck about what you or I think, and to over half the country, Obama might as well be Moses.

I was going to make a comment then ran across yours.  Couldn't be said better.
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Surrendering what? Your prime deckchair on the Titanic?
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What, is it some big secret now?

Good luck with your efforts - you'll have the nicest arms locker on your tiny deck of the Titanic.


Win, lose, or draw, at least some of us will not be accused of surrendering.  


Surrendering what? Your prime deckchair on the Titanic?


Not speaking for Raf, but surrendering anything more than has been taken already. Some of us still hope to avoid the iceberg rather than whining about its approach and mocking those who want to steer away from it.

As far as being "a big secret", sometimes the grown-ups don't telegraph their every move in public when they're in a legislative and/or legal fight.

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Not speaking for Raf, but surrendering anything more than has been taken already. Some of us still hope to avoid the iceberg rather than whining about its approach and mocking those who want to steer away from it.

As far as being "a big secret", sometimes the grown-ups don't telegraph their every move in public when they're in a legislative and/or legal fight.

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How many legal fights do you get in? I do them for a living.

Unless you have superpowers, you're not going to unsink the Titanic. Sorry.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:26:10 PM EDT
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Because it damn well might, chief...  
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Because this will actually go somewhere.......  


Because it damn well might, chief...  


It would certainly be interesting to see Zero charged and impeached for dicking around in Israel's politics.  Given Israel's history being a focal point of Biblical events, some people might take such a thing as a divine act of retribution against Zero.

Sure sounds good to me and it would be fitting that for someone so grandiose as to not discourage the "Chocolate Messiah" talk that such a downfall would occur to them.
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Just wait until it's closer to election time...there's no pleasing anyone.
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Old ARFCOM:  "The Republicans are a bunch of do-nothings who are scared of standing up to Obama"

New ARFCOM:  "Doesn't matter what the Republicans do, it won't make any difference."

This place is so predictable sometimes....  


Just wait until it's closer to election time...there's no pleasing anyone.


Well see, here is the thing.  They haven't actually DONE anything at all, about anything.  You could make a 10 minute video montage of strongly worded press conferences and hearings, with all the GOP bad asses talking ever soooo sternly.  

But nothing happens....they don't prove shit and nothing, nada, zero results.

You can't keep accusing him of breaking all these laws and talking about all these scandals and have all these hearings and then, poof, nothing.  They are just giving the left constant reasons to claim this every "scandal" is just a partisan witch hunt.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:30:56 PM EDT
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Whoopdeee doooooo



There is no way they will impeach THE MOST CORRUPT president in our history.


Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:33:11 PM EDT
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How many legal fights do you get in? I do them for a living.

Unless you have superpowers, you're not going to unsink the Titanic. Sorry.
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Not speaking for Raf, but surrendering anything more than has been taken already. Some of us still hope to avoid the iceberg rather than whining about its approach and mocking those who want to steer away from it.

As far as being "a big secret", sometimes the grown-ups don't telegraph their every move in public when they're in a legislative and/or legal fight.



How many legal fights do you get in? I do them for a living.

Unless you have superpowers, you're not going to unsink the Titanic. Sorry.


Over RKBA? One threatened (they backed down), one filed so far (withdrawn after the matter was settled satisfactorily), currently working on a legislative issue that may lead to another one. For your clients' sakes hopefully you don't call opposing counsel and let them know your strategy ahead of time, which is the equivalent of what Raf was avoiding doing in this thread. But you're right, better to give up than try to push back. Something something posterity, something something countrymen.

On topic: FBHO and I hope this goes somewhere.

Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:39:08 PM EDT
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Over RKBA? One threatened (they backed down), one filed so far (withdrawn after the matter was settled satisfactorily), currently working on a legislative issue that may lead to another one. For your clients' sakes hopefully you don't call opposing counsel and let them know your strategy ahead of time, which is the equivalent of what Raf was avoiding doing in this thread. But you're right, better to give up than try to push back. Something something posterity, something something countrymen.

On topic: FBHO and I hope this goes somewhere.

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Not speaking for Raf, but surrendering anything more than has been taken already. Some of us still hope to avoid the iceberg rather than whining about its approach and mocking those who want to steer away from it.

As far as being "a big secret", sometimes the grown-ups don't telegraph their every move in public when they're in a legislative and/or legal fight.



How many legal fights do you get in? I do them for a living.

Unless you have superpowers, you're not going to unsink the Titanic. Sorry.


Over RKBA? One threatened (they backed down), one filed so far (withdrawn after the matter was settled satisfactorily), currently working on a legislative issue that may lead to another one. For your clients' sakes hopefully you don't call opposing counsel and let them know your strategy ahead of time, which is the equivalent of what Raf was avoiding doing in this thread. But you're right, better to give up than try to push back. Something something posterity, something something countrymen.

On topic: FBHO and I hope this goes somewhere.



Please keep us posted on your efforts to demand an extra serving of bread in steerage, as the people on the bridge sail merrily along. That's literally what you're discussing as it pertains to the actual topic of this thread. It's great that you're doing all of that, but it has nothing to do with the much larger, more fundamental problems in the federal government.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:41:49 PM EDT
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There would be riots. We live among charismatic leader worshipping hippie socialists. He has a Nobel Peace prize for god's sake. How would that look to impeach a Nobel Prize Winner? racist. That's how...
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I don't know why that hit my funny bone, but it did. I actually laughed out loud. Thank you, sir.
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 6:55:51 PM EDT
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Realistically I don't think anything will come of this but at the same time, I'm not willing to throw in the towel and give the Kenyan a free pass on everything. It's seldom the scandal that ends politicians, but rather the cover up. Keep pushing and maybe we get lucky and obama steps on his dick bad enough even the Dems can't keep supporting him. Doubt it'll happen but seems a better alternative than sitting around sucking his dick.
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Apparently a lot of people don't know 67 Senators would have to impeach. 13 dem/ind, before that 22. Primarily the "Fuck the GOP" crowd so par for the course.

Loretta Lynch is as bad as Holder.


http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/236288-gun-groups-rally-against-loretta-lynch


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/28/jeff-sessions-oppose-loretta-lynchs-nomination-as-attorney-general-over-executive-amnesty/


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/411772/loretta-lynchs-secret-docket-ryan-lovelace

Link Posted: 3/29/2015 7:04:33 PM EDT
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I see nothing coming from this, AT ALL. This is just more pandering and flashy showmanship while they pass more freedom stripping laws in the shadows that we will never learn about until they come into effect.
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There would be riots. We live among charismatic leader worshipping hippie socialists. He has a Nobel Peace prize for god's sake. How would that look to impeach a Nobel Prize Winner? racist. That's how...
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I'm ready.
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At least they are starting to see what's up. With all this iran b.s happening, hopefully it lights a fire under someones ass.
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BREAKING: U.S. Senate Launches Investigation Against Barack Obama

Barack Obama is no stranger to investigations or scandal. He has been front and center in his fair share of shady dealings and suspicious associations.

But this time, the United States Senate is the group investigating Obama.

The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, a powerful U.S. Senate investigative committee, has officially initiated a probe into Obama’s connections with OneVoice Movement, a Washington-based group whose subsidiary, Victory 15, is actively involved in efforts to oust Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

The committee’s investigation is significant for several reasons. First, the committee is bipartisan. The collaboration of Democrats and Republicans can accurately be taken as a rebuke to Obama who has not tried to hide his disdain for Netanyahu.

Secondly, Obama’s State Department gave OneVoice numerous taxpayer-funded grants. If the grants are proven to have financed anti-Netanyahu efforts in Israel, Obama would be an accomplice to criminal acts.

more... http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-u-s-senate-launches-investigation-against-barack-h-obama/

At least they are starting to see what's up. With all this iran b.s happening, hopefully it lights a fire under someones ass.


Now that the Arab nations are standing up their own strike force and openly expressing concern over Zero's loyalties and competence, we just might see something brew up.
A guy can dream, can't he?
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Now that the Arab nations are standing up their own strike force and openly expressing concern over Zero's loyalties and competence, we just might see something brew up.
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We might indeed, but I doubt any of it will involve Zero growing a spine or a conscience.

The multi-faceted shitstorm that's gathering strength in the ME is indeed fascinating.
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Heaven forbid that any of us should act locally, and to good effect.  We all know that thousands of such instances will have NO effect on the bigger picture.

Didn't a famous politician once say that "All politics is local"?

One can do as one wishes, but criticizing others for at least attempting to fight against the PTB does nothing to help them.

And in not helping them, one becomes part of the problem.

Please do those of us who wish to continue the fight one small favor;  If those of you who do not wish to help us will at least get out of the way, we can fight more effectively without obstruction.

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How does pointing out reality constitute "surrender?" Am I surrendering if I acknowledge that I can't walk through a wall?

Nobody's getting in the way of your local efforts to nibble at the gun issue by pointing out reality.
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We might indeed, but I doubt any of it will involve Zero growing a spine or a conscience.

The multi-faceted shitstorm that's gathering strength in the ME is indeed fascinating.
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Now that the Arab nations are standing up their own strike force and openly expressing concern over Zero's loyalties and competence, we just might see something brew up.
A guy can dream, can't he?


We might indeed, but I doubt any of it will involve Zero growing a spine or a conscience.

The multi-faceted shitstorm that's gathering strength in the ME is indeed fascinating.


Fascinating is hardly the word I'd use for the opening acts of WWIII.


OT: Obama will take a hit on this thanks to the power of the Jewish Lobby.
However, I think he already knew this going in and is Anti-Semitic enough to want it this way.

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It's not like our gov't doesn't already interfere with elections in other countriesonly this time the Pres. did it on his own.
 



But I'm sure any evidence will be held up, "lost" and or deleted only to be found again
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It's called the regime change. Or the silent coup. Disguised as pro-Democracy activism by the admin. The Obama admin has a long history of using it to get people into office that he finds more cordial to his way of thinking.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/12/perfecting-regime-change-in-ukraine/




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  Starting an investigation that goes absolutely no where isn't "standing up to Obama". See Issa and just about everything that's been done on Fast and Furious.





The standard most have for "DOING SOMETHING" when it comes to Obama is a bit higher than talk and that's why the new ARFCOM is saying - it doesn't matter because they're actually not DOING anything other than talk and then disappear.
People who believe any Congressman is going to seriously investigate a democrat leader, prosecute and then effect change at this level are the same that think a Glock and a soldering iron means they're Ted Yost and this is now 2000 dollar Sentinel G19.





They don't actually DO anything because they're scared of the same happening to them when it's their turn in the big chair. It's all kabuki theater.

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Old ARFCOM:  "The Republicans are a bunch of do-nothings who are scared of standing up to Obama"



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This place is so predictable sometimes....  


  Starting an investigation that goes absolutely no where isn't "standing up to Obama". See Issa and just about everything that's been done on Fast and Furious.





The standard most have for "DOING SOMETHING" when it comes to Obama is a bit higher than talk and that's why the new ARFCOM is saying - it doesn't matter because they're actually not DOING anything other than talk and then disappear.
People who believe any Congressman is going to seriously investigate a democrat leader, prosecute and then effect change at this level are the same that think a Glock and a soldering iron means they're Ted Yost and this is now 2000 dollar Sentinel G19.





They don't actually DO anything because they're scared of the same happening to them when it's their turn in the big chair. It's all kabuki theater.



How do you think the impeachment process works?  The Republicans decide one day to just vote to impeach Obama because they think he's done something wrong?  No proof, they just "feel" it in their gut?



EVERY impeachment process in American history started with lengthy hearings and Congressional investigations.  It didn't happen overnight, and it didn't happen without at least some evidence of wrongdoing.  And it took months or even years to get to that point.



If you want the Republicans to do something about Obama, then they need to find something that sticks to him.  That means investigations, some of which won't go anywhere.  But they are trying.  If you're not willing to give them credit for that, then why do you think they will listen to what you say?



 
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raf - Instead of sermonizing in vague platitudes, why don't you answer my original question, which is "what are you doing about this?"

"This" isn't the local gun rights fight in Rhode Island. As the resident badass who hasn't "surrendered," please tell us what you are doing to combat the unsustainable bloat and lawlessness of the government in DC, and explain why it will be effective.
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I'm just here for the purse swinging.
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So in other words, it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

I won't stop you, you're rolling.
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sooner or later,I have to believe something will stick to this POS.



 
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sooner or later,I have to believe something will stick to this POS.
 


He is the Obamessiah. He could torch an orphanage with a flamethrower on live TV and there would be some explanation for it.
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He is the Obamessiah. He could torch an orphanage with a flamethrower on live TV and there would be some explanation for it.
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sooner or later,I have to believe something will stick to this POS.
 


He is the Obamessiah. He could torch an orphanage with a flamethrower on live TV and there would be some explanation for it.


he was saving them from a poisonous spider
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It started long before Obama. FDR Woodrow Wilson single-handedly sealed the fate of this country. FDR, LBJ and Obama just tossed a few more logs on.
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It's like these people live in some alternative fantasy universe where everyone's their idealized version of conservative and gives the first solitary fuck about the US Constitution.

It pains me to have to say this, but this is Obama's America, now. He has fundamentally transformed the country, as he had promised to do. The Rs failed to stop him because the Rs played by the rules while FBHO shit all over the Constitution. Interesting times are coming . . .



It started long before Obama. FDR Woodrow Wilson single-handedly sealed the fate of this country. FDR, LBJ and Obama just tossed a few more logs on.


Fixt.
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Well, if you want to use Animal House as your frame of reference, Bluto didn't quit, and he made out all right in the end.  .
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So in other words, it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

I won't stop you, you're rolling.



Well, if you want to use Animal House as your frame of reference, Bluto didn't quit, and he made out all right in the end.  .


I'm pretty sure the Delta Tau Chi house never returned to Faber.
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It's like these people live in some alternative fantasy universe where everyone's their idealized version of conservative and gives the first solitary fuck about the US Constitution.

It pains me to have to say this, but this is Obama's America, now. He has fundamentally transformed the country, as he had promised to do. The Rs failed to stop him because the Rs played by the rules while FBHO shit all over the Constitution. Interesting times are coming . . .



It started long before Obama. FDR Woodrow Wilson single-handedly sealed the fate of this country. FDR, LBJ and Obama just tossed a few more logs on.


Fixt.


Wilson was a meager amateur compared to FDR, at both expanding the size of the government and weakening the other branches.
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