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Posted: 3/29/2015 10:22:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are your jimmies, brother? Quote HistoryMine are good now. I watched about 6 minutes of that.  |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 10:27:12 PM EDT
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I knew you'd comment on the Enfield thing. I expect Fluffy and Bimba will have something to say about the Garands. Old guns just don't do it for me though.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FALs, 1911s, Enfields, Garands, M14s. You know how I know you're gay? I knew you'd comment on the Enfield thing. I expect Fluffy and Bimba will have something to say about the Garands. Old guns just don't do it for me though.I bet you're an AK-loving communist. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 10:47:16 PM EDT
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ar pistols
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:12:36 AM EDT
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A2's.
CZ-75's. Taurus Judge and the like. Shotguns with more bolt-ons than a South Dallas Civic. AR handguards with full length rails all around. SIG P22X pistols. Chunky and the de-cocker is retarded. As my father put it upon his return from the SIG Arms Academy, "the right handedest mother-fucker ever built." Every gun I've seen with tan cerakote. ETA: And FALs, I forgot about FALs. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:13:56 AM EDT
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1911s. ETA: Garands and M14s also. I like my garand for nostalgia's sake and historical value, but pretty much these. I think I want to try to get into 1911's. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:16:30 AM EDT
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1911's- I like them, but I'm not spending a grand to get a good one that will hold up to a lot of shooting when I can spend half that on a poly gun that is just as good or better. Shoot Much? Shoots better ? That's unadulterated fucking bullshit! Better in what way? Better Trigger?=Fail Accuracy?=Fail Lighter?= Fail = Slower shot to shot recovery time " don't try and tell me any different either". Reliability? mine has shot thousands of rounds in competition and got me 9th nationally in class ((( USPSA))) It's my primary carry gun. Don't have a grand? ok then buy an non- customizable mass consumer Polymer handgun but don't try and bullshit people... What's with all the Average Joe blow consumer Poly love and the all the 1911 hate on this site? Everyone here has no problem customizing their AR's but not their hand guns? Everyone bitches how an AK cannot be as easily tailored to an individuals needs due to lack of aftermarket parts compared to the AR so tell me what in the hell is the difference with a handgun? Hey I got a really tricked out AR but real shooters prefer a non-customizable poly handgun 
It was a lot different on this site eight or nine years ago. Most people woke up though. And the difference is you customize and AR to work better. You customize a 1911 just to work. 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:17:40 AM EDT
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I don't get the love for Springfields, Garands, or Pistol Caliber Carbines. Pythons are as overrated as Rolex. Pythons would cost a couple grand to make now. They're worth more than what they are currently going for, Rolex is an unfair comparison. Still have no interest in them, though. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:18:39 AM EDT
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HKs and Sigs. Russian guns of all stripes
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:19:06 AM EDT
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It was a lot different on this site eight or nine years ago. Most people woke up though. And the difference is you customize and AR to work better. You customize a 1911 just to work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1911's- I like them, but I'm not spending a grand to get a good one that will hold up to a lot of shooting when I can spend half that on a poly gun that is just as good or better. Shoot Much? Shoots better ? That's unadulterated fucking bullshit! Better in what way? Better Trigger?=Fail Accuracy?=Fail Lighter?= Fail = Slower shot to shot recovery time " don't try and tell me any different either". Reliability? mine has shot thousands of rounds in competition and got me 9th nationally in class ((( USPSA))) It's my primary carry gun. Don't have a grand? ok then buy an non- customizable mass consumer Polymer handgun but don't try and bullshit people... What's with all the Average Joe blow consumer Poly love and the all the 1911 hate on this site? Everyone here has no problem customizing their AR's but not their hand guns? Everyone bitches how an AK cannot be as easily tailored to an individuals needs due to lack of aftermarket parts compared to the AR so tell me what in the hell is the difference with a handgun? Hey I got a really tricked out AR but real shooters prefer a non-customizable poly handgun
It was a lot different on this site eight or nine years ago. Most people woke up though. And the difference is you customize and AR to work better. You customize a 1911 just to work. My most expensive 1911 cost me $500, and it just works, as do my others. I think when people start using external extractors and try to make them match pistols is where the trouble comes. Run one like JMB intended and they work great. 1911s are awesome pistols. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:19:10 AM EDT
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Deagle with beamz..
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:40:10 AM EDT
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My most expensive 1911 cost me $500, and it just works, as do my others. I think when people start using external extractors and try to make them match pistols is where the trouble comes. Run one like JMB intended and they work great. 1911s are awesome pistols. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1911's- I like them, but I'm not spending a grand to get a good one that will hold up to a lot of shooting when I can spend half that on a poly gun that is just as good or better. Shoot Much? Shoots better ? That's unadulterated fucking bullshit! Better in what way? Better Trigger?=Fail Accuracy?=Fail Lighter?= Fail = Slower shot to shot recovery time " don't try and tell me any different either". Reliability? mine has shot thousands of rounds in competition and got me 9th nationally in class ((( USPSA))) It's my primary carry gun. Don't have a grand? ok then buy an non- customizable mass consumer Polymer handgun but don't try and bullshit people... What's with all the Average Joe blow consumer Poly love and the all the 1911 hate on this site? Everyone here has no problem customizing their AR's but not their hand guns? Everyone bitches how an AK cannot be as easily tailored to an individuals needs due to lack of aftermarket parts compared to the AR so tell me what in the hell is the difference with a handgun? Hey I got a really tricked out AR but real shooters prefer a non-customizable poly handgun
It was a lot different on this site eight or nine years ago. Most people woke up though. And the difference is you customize and AR to work better. You customize a 1911 just to work. My most expensive 1911 cost me $500, and it just works, as do my others. I think when people start using external extractors and try to make them match pistols is where the trouble comes. Run one like JMB intended and they work great. 1911s are awesome pistols. There isn't a production 1911 made today that is built to the original M1911 spec. Or the post-1919 spec. Or the original M1911A1 spec. Maybe the post-1938 M1911A1 spec if you leave out the slide hardening techniques and frame parts. Where "people" start getting in to trouble is when the skilled labor becomes expensive to make the pistol in the traditional fashion and keep a competitive price. Or when tooling wears out. This started with Colt in the late 60's. They and others have been trying to find the right balance ever since, with varying degrees of success. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:50:32 AM EDT
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FAL's. Never saw the appeal. FAL & M1A both still serve a purpose (especially in their price range) that are unmatched today. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:58:07 AM EDT
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MACs in any form, shape and configuration. Yes, this. I don't understand why someone would want one. That and 7.5" ARs. Just don't see the point. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 4:06:28 AM EDT
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FAL & M1A both still serve a purpose (especially in their price range) that are unmatched today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FAL's. Never saw the appeal. FAL & M1A both still serve a purpose (especially in their price range) that are unmatched today. Making people want AR-10s? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:20:19 AM EDT
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Mosins.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:53:10 AM EDT
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AKs. I just can't get into them
M14s. Don't get it G3. Don't like them at all M1903s Mosins SIG |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:53:30 AM EDT
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revolvers, all of them.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:04:33 AM EDT
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Mine are good now. I watched about 6 minutes of that.
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Mine are good now. I watched about 6 minutes of that.
Too often do people neglect their jimmies. Their is no need to be upset, care for your jimmies daily. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:37:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet you're an AK-loving communist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: FALs, 1911s, Enfields, Garands, M14s. You know how I know you're gay? I knew you'd comment on the Enfield thing. I expect Fluffy and Bimba will have something to say about the Garands. Old guns just don't do it for me though.I bet you're an AK-loving communist. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:40:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My most expensive 1911 cost me $500, and it just works, as do my others. I think when people start using external extractors and try to make them match pistols is where the trouble comes. Run one like JMB intended and they work great. 1911s are awesome pistols. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1911's- I like them, but I'm not spending a grand to get a good one that will hold up to a lot of shooting when I can spend half that on a poly gun that is just as good or better. Shoot Much? Shoots better ? That's unadulterated fucking bullshit! Better in what way? Better Trigger?=Fail Accuracy?=Fail Lighter?= Fail = Slower shot to shot recovery time " don't try and tell me any different either". Reliability? mine has shot thousands of rounds in competition and got me 9th nationally in class ((( USPSA))) It's my primary carry gun. Don't have a grand? ok then buy an non- customizable mass consumer Polymer handgun but don't try and bullshit people... What's with all the Average Joe blow consumer Poly love and the all the 1911 hate on this site? Everyone here has no problem customizing their AR's but not their hand guns? Everyone bitches how an AK cannot be as easily tailored to an individuals needs due to lack of aftermarket parts compared to the AR so tell me what in the hell is the difference with a handgun? Hey I got a really tricked out AR but real shooters prefer a non-customizable poly handgun It was a lot different on this site eight or nine years ago. Most people woke up though. And the difference is you customize and AR to work better. You customize a 1911 just to work. My most expensive 1911 cost me $500, and it just works, as do my others. I think when people start using external extractors and try to make them match pistols is where the trouble comes. Run one like JMB intended and they work great. 1911s are awesome pistols. Glock is for killing bad guys. 1911 is for cavalry charges and cattle rustling. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:41:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FAL & M1A both still serve a purpose (especially in their price range) that are unmatched today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FAL's. Never saw the appeal. FAL & M1A both still serve a purpose (especially in their price range) that are unmatched today.  |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:42:58 AM EDT
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HK USP's This along with 1911's, High end AR-15s, AK-47 Pattern, but not AK-74, HK VP9, and Shotguns in general. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:43:54 AM EDT
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AK's...just don't want one...ever...
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:56:25 AM EDT
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my complete list:
double barrel shotguns any DA/SA pistol garbage trigger system that was pointless the day it was invented pretty much all revolvers any ruger product. they all suck shit. 5.56 mm. it sucks at everything except accuracy 1911s obsolete and most of them suck Hi Points HKs- over priced and under delivered be it rifle or pistol except for one product...the mp5 |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:02:17 AM EDT
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Glock 19.
I much prefer the full size Glock grip, as the 'hump' on the back of the grip is all wrong in the midsize Glocks. I have a gen 4 Glock 34 and carry it sometimes, but if deep concealment is needed I carry my 3.5" 1911, a Detonics Combat Master. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:07:21 AM EDT
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I don't have a large collection as far as large collections go but with around ~120 modern firearms have damn close to everything mentioned from a nice skeet gun to P7,Python,Glocks,FAL,Uzi...and can't remember the last time I shot any of them and thought "this is so terrible,I have no idea why I own it". Most of them simply fall into being different ways to skin a cat. Yes some are better than others in some ways but all of them are fun. Maybe its just not being wed to one design and manufacturer or just liking guns in general. I entirely disagree with that old saw "beware the man with one gun,he knows how to use it";shoot enough guns and you learn that they pretty much all do the exact same thing and if you shoot enough to become proficient with a dozen guns,it's no big deal to learn a couple dozen more.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:08:53 AM EDT
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Revolvers
Boutique ARs C&R Beretta 92 HK handguns |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:23:49 AM EDT
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-HK handguns. I've tried, I've tried again, and I've tried a third time. Just don't fit me. YMMV.
-HK91s and PTR clones. I really, really, really wanted one and then met a guy with a real HK and shot it. Wasn't impressed and my impression shattered...  Still may own a PTR just because
-SKS - Were a dime a dozen back in the day so I spent a few dimes but didn't get a dozen of them. Fun to shoot but the AK is a much better platform in 7.62x39 and has a detachable magazine as a standard feature |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:27:34 AM EDT
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Bullpups
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:53:14 AM EDT
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A lot of people have said usp, I hate to agree but I'm with you. I've owned two now thinking I would come around and look at all the features and woo woo. At the end of the day I just do not like them and can't shoot them as well as other pistols. Traded one for a mini 14, the other for a basic ar.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:03:11 AM EDT
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Glock's except for the G18 (I admit that one was fun to shoot).
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:05:48 AM EDT
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I don't have a large collection as far as large collections go but with around ~120 modern firearms have damn close to everything mentioned from a nice skeet gun to P7,Python,Glocks,FAL,Uzi...and can't remember the last time I shot any of them and thought "this is so terrible,I have no idea why I own it". Most of them simply fall into being different ways to skin a cat. Yes some are better than others in some ways but all of them are fun. Maybe its just not being wed to one design and manufacturer or just liking guns in general. I entirely disagree with that old saw "beware the man with one gun,he knows how to use it";shoot enough guns and you learn that they pretty much all do the exact same thing and if you shoot enough to become proficient with a dozen guns,it's no big deal to learn a couple dozen more. Most people don't have the means to do that, so they emotionally invest themselves in the one they settle on and defend it vehemently to justify that decision in their own minds. That said, you're wrong, Uzis are so damned terrible no one should own one.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:10:10 AM EDT
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1911s. ETA: Garands and M14s also. Pure herecy. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:22:22 AM EDT
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1911's
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:23:34 AM EDT
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22 lr
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:40:06 AM EDT
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i dont like 1911s
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:03:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock 19. I much prefer the full size Glock grip, as the 'hump' on the back of the grip is all wrong in the midsize Glocks. I have a gen 4 Glock 34 and carry it sometimes, but if deep concealment is needed I carry my 3.5" 1911, a Detonics Combat Master. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:04:52 AM EDT
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Glocks, I have tried to like them, I rented them; different sizes, different calibers, etc they just don't hit my hand right.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:06:16 AM EDT
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I like the G22 and G27 but the G23 never fit the hand right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glock 19. I much prefer the full size Glock grip, as the 'hump' on the back of the grip is all wrong in the midsize Glocks. I have a gen 4 Glock 34 and carry it sometimes, but if deep concealment is needed I carry my 3.5" 1911, a Detonics Combat Master. Same/same. Hump is too high and there's not enough space between the top finger groove and the triggerguard - for some stupid reason that gap is taller on both the full size and sub-compact. Glock screwed the pooch when they decided to shorten the grip from the middle instead of the bottom. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:11:00 AM EDT
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Uzis are heavy and blocky.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:24:53 AM EDT
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Shield. Love my FS MP9.Waited patiently for the Shield to come out with a no safety model. I was sure it would be the perfect warm weather ccw to compliment the MP9. Spent damn near 300 bucks on a 400 gun to set it up just like my fullsize. Warren tactical sights,full Apex kit with aluminum trigger and NDZ performance extension....NOPE. Points like a glock, which I despise, doesn't really conceal any better than my full size in a crossbreed. My wifes 938 kicks its ass up and down the street even with all the mods. The Sig is smaller, lighter, points beautifully, and is very accurate.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:30:45 AM EDT
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Deagles, I tried more than a few and get the attraction but it's pure novelty in my world and I have zero use for it, but I still like wasting ammo with someone else's. Got one for free years back, sold it soon after. Cop who resigned to go to FDNY.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:52:04 AM EDT
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An AK or AR with a barrel over 12.5" (retro excluded). No reason to put an intermediate cartridge in a "rifle" IMO
Pretty much any other gun with a long barrel (over 20"). There's a few exceptions but to me, 95% of shooters aren't going to ever utilize the longer barrel's advantages and 99% aren't ever going to actually shoot anything other than paper/steel at those ranges. (Same logic with the AR and AK above, if you're reaching out further than what you can manage with a 12.5", get something bigger). Also, it's carry over logic from a past era that's harmful to some guns (take long barreled .22lr, only hurts velocity) Glock Enfield (and other "dead" milsurps whose cheap ammo has dried up) Anything made by Remington in the last ~10 years. Their current production is gilded crap riding on their name. Long barreled shotguns (I don't get the "swing" and "balance" people talk about) Non SBR pistol caliber carbines other than the Sub2000 That's pretty much it though 
Oh, and did I mention pointless, long barrels
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:24:46 PM EDT
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Most people don't have the means to do that, so they emotionally invest themselves in the one they settle on and defend it vehemently to justify that decision in their own minds. That said, you're wrong, Uzis are so damned terrible no one should own one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't have a large collection as far as large collections go but with around ~120 modern firearms have damn close to everything mentioned from a nice skeet gun to P7,Python,Glocks,FAL,Uzi...and can't remember the last time I shot any of them and thought "this is so terrible,I have no idea why I own it". Most of them simply fall into being different ways to skin a cat. Yes some are better than others in some ways but all of them are fun. Maybe its just not being wed to one design and manufacturer or just liking guns in general. I entirely disagree with that old saw "beware the man with one gun,he knows how to use it";shoot enough guns and you learn that they pretty much all do the exact same thing and if you shoot enough to become proficient with a dozen guns,it's no big deal to learn a couple dozen more. Most people don't have the means to do that, so they emotionally invest themselves in the one they settle on and defend it vehemently to justify that decision in their own minds. That said, you're wrong, Uzis are so damned terrible no one should own one. Is it heavy,clunky,awkward and shitty to shoulder in cold weather? Yes but it lets me pretend to be Chuck Norris in Delta Force 2. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:29:50 PM EDT
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Browning high power. I'm sorry but this is the one that gets me. It's a very expensive single action 9mm with a magazine safety and a 13 round capacity. It was a good gun for it's era, but compare one to a CZ-75 and I just don't get it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:33:18 PM EDT
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Garand 's, don't get it at all. Not for everyone, but they have a historical/nostalgia appeal coupled with a 30-06 round (which is indeed more powerful than .308) in a semi-auto platform that many consider aesthetically pleasing in that classic wood and steel style of a former era. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry but this is the one that gets me. It's a very expensive single action 9mm .45 with a magazine grip safety and a 13 8 round capacity. It was a good gun for it's era, but compare one to a CZ-75 Glock and I just don't get it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Browning high power 1911. I'm sorry but this is the one that gets me. It's a very expensive single action 9mm .45 with a magazine grip safety and a 13 8 round capacity. It was a good gun for it's era, but compare one to a CZ-75 Glock and I just don't get it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:39:00 PM EDT
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Uzis are heavy and blocky. the irony of a guy who calls himself "p226guy" posting that is not beyond me.. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:50:56 PM EDT
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I'm sorry but this is the one that gets me. It's a very expensive single action 9mm with a magazine safety and a 13 round capacity. It was a good gun for it's era, but compare one to a CZ-75 and I just don't get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Browning high power. I'm sorry but this is the one that gets me. It's a very expensive single action 9mm with a magazine safety and a 13 round capacity. It was a good gun for it's era, but compare one to a CZ-75 and I just don't get it. I use 15 round mags in mine. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:52:58 PM EDT
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Any of the Mossberg's with the safety up on top like the 500. It's a terrible design, and it is made even worse by everyone who wants to run a pistol grip setup with it.
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