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The "T-95" appears to be the wrong answer to Russia's lack of a viable MBT that can fight and win against modern western tanks such as the M1A2 SEP, Leopard 2A5/A6, Challenger II, or French LeClerc. For one, the main gun has been increased significantly in size to 152mm, which tells me Russia lacks the R&D to field an effective APFSDSDU long rod penetrator that can defeat western armor without radically increasing the size of the main gun. I find this surprising, since the Russians have (or used to have) a pool of very capable scientists and engineers who understood higher mathematics without the use of computers. With the aid of computers like they have now, you'd think they'd be in a better position to develop better munitions. Perhaps production of DU or TC is beyond their industrial or economic capacity due to complexity or costs, or both. Anyway, the current generation of Russian tanks seem to be incapable of being upgraded any further, which also tells me their 125mm main gun will never be effective against tanks it was designed to fight against. The two man crew is an admission that the Russian tank design bureaus couldn't develop modern composite armor light enough to build a tank to accommodate at least a three man crew like their existing MBTs. The decision to design the tank around the two man concept was most likely a concession to keeping the weight of the tank down to levels that didn't impede mobility. Bear in mind that the Russians rely heavily on ERA to defeat enemy tank main gun munitions as it is. That in and of itself tells you they haven't developed any armor arrays as capable as those used by the West since the 1980s. Additionally, a two man crew leaves the tank with fewer eyes to scan for threats, and less labor to perform operator-level PMCS. Crewing a tank isn't just a "push button" form of fighting confined to the hull and turret; you still need crewmen to prepare the tank for operations, to effect repairs before and after crossing the LOD, to scan and identify threats, to constantly maintain weapons and the tank itself, to perform as LP/OPs in the defense, to tie in to friendly forces on the flanks, to conduct dismounted patrols, etc. If the crew is relying on sensors (various optics) to fight the tank, then they're vulnerable to mechanical malfunction either from everyday use in an operational environment, or from impacts from enemy KE munitions and ATGMs while in the fight. Equally bad, is that I don't see how you could integrate a straight-up optical auxiliary sight with just a simple reticle, mil lines for lead, and a stadia range finder (IOWs no electronic automatic inputs to generate a ballistic solution) with a gunner who sits in the hull. Maybe they can. I admire the Russians for not being afraid to field new technology and concepts, but I don't believe the T-95 will be a competitive design against modern western MBTs. Unless there's something we're not seeing, it looks like it's performance will be limited by severe design limitations that western tank crews do not contend with. View Quote If they're being realistic, this isn't intended to fight Abrams MBT's. Top attack missiles would do a much better job with fewer engineering challenges. 152mm does offers a lot more HE boom for blowing the crap out of Chechan apartment complexes. |
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It's terrifying, but I can see the Chinese coming to the conclusion that they would actually be better off with a couple hundred million fewer people and a big chunk of new territory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sooner or later China is gonna rape them from behind and take a good chunk of their eastern side. It's terrifying, but I can see the Chinese coming to the conclusion that they would actually be better off with a couple hundred million fewer people and a big chunk of new territory. They may use the Mexican/Illegal Alien model and do a slow invasion. But either way they have the population to burn so to speak. |
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It's terrifying, but I can see the Chinese coming to the conclusion that they would actually be better off with a couple hundred million fewer people and a big chunk of new territory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sooner or later China is gonna rape them from behind and take a good chunk of their eastern side. It's terrifying, but I can see the Chinese coming to the conclusion that they would actually be better off with a couple hundred million fewer people and a big chunk of new territory. With the Chinese economic turndown, massive over-population, and no place for the people to live, they need to push out somewhere. The thing is, China doesn't want a direct confrontation with Russia, who they are afraid would resort to nukes rather quickly. Better to let Chinese illegal immigration do its thing as they already are, but will it be fast enough to siphon the birth rate, while China faces an aging citizenry problem as well? |
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Russia's have been copies of US systems from day 1. Look at the Nike Ajax and the SA-2, for example. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Russia's have been copies of US systems from day 1. Look at the Nike Ajax and the SA-2, for example. What in the world do we have that even resembles the S-500 or A-135? Russia's biggest problems are within, not outside her borders. That is very clear if you have ever visited the place. Bolsheviks destroyed it over a period of decades, from which there is no recovery. What will Russia's borders look like 10 years from now? That is the question. Instead of taking the opportunity to invite foreign investment in with above-board practices, people were able to see the Kleptocracy within for what it is, and pulled out if they that had any sound interests in their long term business viability. You've doomed Russia to a very bleak outcome that simply can't be sustained. Attempts at improving the military will only strain the system further, leading to even lower standards of living for anyone unfortunate enough to have been born there. I agree. Their military is fine right now to bully their neighbors and they have the trump card of thousands of nukes to keep us at bay. I have visited Russia, and not just the touristy section of StPburg. The Russians still excel at propaganda and no matter how poor and miserable the people are they all somehow still believe that it's all the CIA's fault. And don't underestimate the average Russian's ability to absorb pain and misery, they aren't like us or western Europe. Over the past 1000 years they've developed a need for a strong leader to tell them what to do and make them feel "Russia's strong!", Putin does that wonderfully when he pushes around a former satellite. Even with crippling sanctions Putin's approval rating is through the roof. The years of Communism and past invasions by pretty much every country on earth has made the average Russian very paranoid. Thus the reason they get so bent out of shape when their neighbors join NATO or overthrow their Russian-friendly president. One of the smartest men I know was born in Russia, lived here for past 15 years, and still believes with all his heart that the US is just waiting for the opportunity to invade Russia any day now. Every time Poland hosts US troops, or Ukraine makes overtures to the West it just reinforces that view. I don't know the answer to dealing with Russia but we will never directly go to war with them, I wish the 'patriots' in both countries would get that through their heads. |
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You catch it? Wikepedia of all places at that! Hilarious! Look closely, yes you Tomislav and Primorski/therusskibear View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh geez. You catch it? Wikepedia of all places at that! Hilarious! Look closely, yes you Tomislav and Primorski/therusskibear I won't even ask what you were searching for when you found that. |
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Anyone else notice that this version of TheRusskieBear is a little more engaging than the last one, replies to jokes, comments a little more than the older hit and run style.
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Our god damn FEMA Tanks will put holes in that shit like no tomorrow.
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What in the world do we have that even resembles the S-500 or A-135? I agree. Their military is fine right now to bully their neighbors and they have the trump card of thousands of nukes to keep us at bay. I have visited Russia, and not just the touristy section of StPburg. The Russians still excel at propaganda and no matter how poor and miserable the people are they all somehow still believe that it's all the CIA's fault. And don't underestimate the average Russian's ability to absorb pain and misery, they aren't like us or western Europe. Over the past 1000 years they've developed a need for a strong leader to tell them what to do and make them feel "Russia's strong!", Putin does that wonderfully when he pushes around a former satellite. Even with crippling sanctions Putin's approval rating is through the roof. The years of Communism and past invasions by pretty much every country on earth has made the average Russian very paranoid. Thus the reason they get so bent out of shape when their neighbors join NATO or overthrow their Russian-friendly president. One of the smartest men I know was born in Russia, lived here for past 15 years, and still believes with all his heart that the US is just waiting for the opportunity to invade Russia any day now. Every time Poland hosts US troops, or Ukraine makes overtures to the West it just reinforces that view. I don't know the answer to dealing with Russia but we will never directly go to war with them, I wish the 'patriots' in both countries would get that through their heads. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Russia's have been copies of US systems from day 1. Look at the Nike Ajax and the SA-2, for example. What in the world do we have that even resembles the S-500 or A-135? Russia's biggest problems are within, not outside her borders. That is very clear if you have ever visited the place. Bolsheviks destroyed it over a period of decades, from which there is no recovery. What will Russia's borders look like 10 years from now? That is the question. Instead of taking the opportunity to invite foreign investment in with above-board practices, people were able to see the Kleptocracy within for what it is, and pulled out if they that had any sound interests in their long term business viability. You've doomed Russia to a very bleak outcome that simply can't be sustained. Attempts at improving the military will only strain the system further, leading to even lower standards of living for anyone unfortunate enough to have been born there. I agree. Their military is fine right now to bully their neighbors and they have the trump card of thousands of nukes to keep us at bay. I have visited Russia, and not just the touristy section of StPburg. The Russians still excel at propaganda and no matter how poor and miserable the people are they all somehow still believe that it's all the CIA's fault. And don't underestimate the average Russian's ability to absorb pain and misery, they aren't like us or western Europe. Over the past 1000 years they've developed a need for a strong leader to tell them what to do and make them feel "Russia's strong!", Putin does that wonderfully when he pushes around a former satellite. Even with crippling sanctions Putin's approval rating is through the roof. The years of Communism and past invasions by pretty much every country on earth has made the average Russian very paranoid. Thus the reason they get so bent out of shape when their neighbors join NATO or overthrow their Russian-friendly president. One of the smartest men I know was born in Russia, lived here for past 15 years, and still believes with all his heart that the US is just waiting for the opportunity to invade Russia any day now. Every time Poland hosts US troops, or Ukraine makes overtures to the West it just reinforces that view. I don't know the answer to dealing with Russia but we will never directly go to war with them, I wish the 'patriots' in both countries would get that through their heads. I also have visited Russia many times and have had dealings with everyday Russians. You are correct for the most part, but, there is a minority of Russians who do not buy into all the propaganda they are spoon fed. There is an internal struggle between the statists(Putin) and what they call "liberals', they are not liberals like we have. They call anyone who does not worship Putin and think his words are gospel "liberals", and there more than you would think. They just cannot openly say so lest they get openly discriminated against, or worse. Russian people by nature are secretive and closed off to everyone except their closest friends. This is from 80 years of the KGB in various forms disappearing their asses for the slightest word against the central government. But, Russians as a whole love a strong leader, not necessarily a good leader. There are MANY young Russians today who think that Stalin is a hero. They value stability even if that stability comes at the cost of freedom. But, you can't really blame them, except for a short period in the 1990's Russians have never had freedom. They have always had either Czars, the USSR, or their current Czar Putin. |
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The "T-95" appears to be the wrong answer to Russia's lack of a viable MBT that can fight and win against modern western tanks such as the M1A2 SEP, Leopard 2A5/A6, Challenger II, or French LeClerc. For one, the main gun has been increased significantly in size to 152mm, which tells me Russia lacks the R&D to field an effective APFSDSDU long rod penetrator that can defeat western armor without radically increasing the size of the main gun. I find this surprising, since the Russians have (or used to have) a pool of very capable scientists and engineers who understood higher mathematics without the use of computers. With the aid of computers like they have now, you'd think they'd be in a better position to develop better munitions. Perhaps production of DU or TC is beyond their industrial or economic capacity due to complexity or costs, or both. Anyway, the current generation of Russian tanks seem to be incapable of being upgraded any further, which also tells me their 125mm main gun will never be effective against tanks it was designed to fight against. The two man crew is an admission that the Russian tank design bureaus couldn't develop modern composite armor light enough to build a tank to accommodate at least a three man crew like their existing MBTs. The decision to design the tank around the two man concept was most likely a concession to keeping the weight of the tank down to levels that didn't impede mobility. Bear in mind that the Russians rely heavily on ERA to defeat enemy tank main gun munitions as it is. That in and of itself tells you they haven't developed any armor arrays as capable as those used by the West since the 1980s. Additionally, a two man crew leaves the tank with fewer eyes to scan for threats, and less labor to perform operator-level PMCS. Crewing a tank isn't just a "push button" form of fighting confined to the hull and turret; you still need crewmen to prepare the tank for operations, to effect repairs before and after crossing the LOD, to scan and identify threats, to constantly maintain weapons and the tank itself, to perform as LP/OPs in the defense, to tie in to friendly forces on the flanks, to conduct dismounted patrols, etc. If the crew is relying on sensors (various optics) to fight the tank, then they're vulnerable to mechanical malfunction either from everyday use in an operational environment, or from impacts from enemy KE munitions and ATGMs while in the fight. Equally bad, is that I don't see how you could integrate a straight-up optical auxiliary sight with just a simple reticle, mil lines for lead, and a stadia range finder (IOWs no electronic automatic inputs to generate a ballistic solution) with a gunner who sits in the hull. Maybe they can. I admire the Russians for not being afraid to field new technology and concepts, but I don't believe the T-95 will be a competitive design against modern western MBTs. Unless there's something we're not seeing, it looks like it's performance will be limited by severe design limitations that western tank crews do not contend with. Nice write-up. Yeah, very informative. |
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It's terrifying, but I can see the Chinese coming to the conclusion that they would actually be better off with a couple hundred million fewer people and a big chunk of new territory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sooner or later China is gonna rape them from behind and take a good chunk of their eastern side. It's terrifying, but I can see the Chinese coming to the conclusion that they would actually be better off with a couple hundred million fewer people and a big chunk of new territory. Yikes! Considering the Chinese multi-million surplus of bachelors, you may just be correct. |
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Maybe it's because I'm Ruthenian.... but I have this incredible urge to kill this motherfucker and wrap his intestines around his neck..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Russia's military should stick to what it does best. Sodomy and making music videos. http://youtu.be/0rAHrHd2lcw Maybe it's because I'm Ruthenian.... but I have this incredible urge to kill this motherfucker and wrap his intestines around his neck..... Hey, so am I! We are probably only two of a handful in SC lol. |
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View Quote Only a Russian could figure out how to flip a 50 ton tank on a flat surface. |
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lol, looks like shit.
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If they're being realistic, this isn't intended to fight Abrams MBT's. Top attack missiles would do a much better job with fewer engineering challenges. 152mm does offers a lot more HE boom for blowing the crap out of Chechan apartment complexes. View Quote Ah, so it's more for dealing with interior issues than exterior threats. |
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lol, looks like shit. How much is our troll getting paid per post? In rubles or potatoes? It used to be 15 rubles per 300 word post, before the ruble went into the toilet. I tried to sign myself up but my Russian is pretty rough and they haven't got back to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olgino Quoted:
I thought it was suppose to look more like this: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PsAePLKmBfY/maxresdefault.jpg http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-YUB7YCUAA02hc.png OP is showing us some ancient 1990's prototype. Yeah, here is the Armata, from little you can see of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYhyzJ7jdGE |
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I thought it was suppose to look more like this: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PsAePLKmBfY/maxresdefault.jpg http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-YUB7YCUAA02hc.png OP is showing us some ancient 1990's prototype. View Quote Is of glorious Russian disinformation, comrade. |
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Quoted: I thought it was suppose to look more like this: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PsAePLKmBfY/maxresdefault.jpg http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-YUB7YCUAA02hc.png OP is showing us some ancient 1990's prototype. View Quote |
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Bear in mind that the Russians rely heavily on ERA to defeat enemy tank main gun munitions as it is. That in and of itself tells you they haven't developed any armor arrays as capable as those used by the West since the 1980s. View Quote With all respect, but this is nothing more than unsubstantiated statement |
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Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc? Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world. http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol Russia. Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically. Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers. Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc? Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world. http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Whooo! Damn you be telling the jokes! They about got their asses kicked by Georgia and those were irregulars and reserves. Against a REAL modern infantry/ground force the Russians would be threatening or resorting to nuclear weapons inside a week. |
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The Armata has been in development for a while, if I could get youtube working I'd post a video of them moving it on a truck, it's covered pretty good though. It's not a game-changer but it is a nice tank that's going to have APCs and such of the same design. Also Russian anti-air is second to none whether it's going against ICBMs or the best 'stealth' bombers nothing gets into Moscow, other areas are slightly more vulnerable but not much. View Quote |
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It's really too bad the Germans didn't win on the Eastern Front.
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So has the glorious red army figured out that their hygiene standards are their own worst enemy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
So has the glorious red army figured out that their hygiene standards are their own worst enemy? 67 percent of those who served in Afghanistan required hospitalization for a serious illness. These illnesses included 115,308 cases of infectious hepatitis and 31,080 cases of typhoid fever.5 The remaining 269,544 cases were split between plague, malaria, cholera, diphtheria, meningitis, heart disease, shigellosis (infectious dysentery), amoebic dysentery, rheumatism, heat stroke, pneumonia, typhus and paratyphus.6 Jesus, did they run around drinking from every fucking puddle possible, then eating raw every random vulture they came across? It seems the Russians don't believe in vaccinations either. |
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Jesus, did they run around drinking from every fucking puddle possible, then eating raw every random vulture they came across? It seems the Russians don't believe in vaccinations either. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So has the glorious red army figured out that their hygiene standards are their own worst enemy? 67 percent of those who served in Afghanistan required hospitalization for a serious illness. These illnesses included 115,308 cases of infectious hepatitis and 31,080 cases of typhoid fever.5 The remaining 269,544 cases were split between plague, malaria, cholera, diphtheria, meningitis, heart disease, shigellosis (infectious dysentery), amoebic dysentery, rheumatism, heat stroke, pneumonia, typhus and paratyphus.6 Jesus, did they run around drinking from every fucking puddle possible, then eating raw every random vulture they came across? It seems the Russians don't believe in vaccinations either. The enlisted receive regular anal vaccinations of syphillis, gonorrhea, hepatitis, and AIDS from the NCOs. |
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Sometimes I wonder if we had killed Hitler and come to an agreement, if we could have divided everything in Europe all the way to the Urals between us, the British, and the Germans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's really too bad the Germans didn't win on the Eastern Front. Sometimes I wonder if we had killed Hitler and come to an agreement, if we could have divided everything in Europe all the way to the Urals between us, the British, and the Germans. I would have supported it. Rid this planet of the whole vile lot of them. Fuck Russia.... |
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Sometimes I wonder if we had killed Hitler and come to an agreement, if we could have divided everything in Europe all the way to the Urals between us, the British, and the Germans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's really too bad the Germans didn't win on the Eastern Front. Sometimes I wonder if we had killed Hitler and come to an agreement, if we could have divided everything in Europe all the way to the Urals between us, the British, and the Germans. Next time. We will enslave the populace too as that is all they are good for. |
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Love to see the combat trains for this turd. Ammo carriers maintainence and recovery and fuel lol holy crap.
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OP, why are you trying to argue that Russia makes anything of quality?
You guys can't even make vodka right, and you're credited with inventing the thing. The FRENCH make better vodka than you do. When you can make quality vodka (which is what? water, potatoes and bear piss?) then you can come here and sell us on the idea that your country can make quality tanks. |
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You're wrong about that, but vodka making doesn't have much to do with main battle tank development. http://www.31dover.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x1000/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/3/1/31dover-russian_standard-shadow320x1000_1_.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, why are you trying to argue that Russia makes anything of quality? You guys can't even make vodka right, and you're credited with inventing the thing. The FRENCH make better vodka than you do. When you can make quality vodka (which is what? water, potatoes and bear piss?) then you can come here and sell us on the idea that your country can make quality tanks. You're wrong about that, but vodka making doesn't have much to do with main battle tank development. http://www.31dover.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x1000/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/3/1/31dover-russian_standard-shadow320x1000_1_.jpg The inherent Russian problem is that it does though. |
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The inherent Russian problem is that it does though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, why are you trying to argue that Russia makes anything of quality? You guys can't even make vodka right, and you're credited with inventing the thing. The FRENCH make better vodka than you do. When you can make quality vodka (which is what? water, potatoes and bear piss?) then you can come here and sell us on the idea that your country can make quality tanks. You're wrong about that, but vodka making doesn't have much to do with main battle tank development. http://www.31dover.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x1000/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/3/1/31dover-russian_standard-shadow320x1000_1_.jpg The inherent Russian problem is that it does though. |
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The same Russians who are getting beaten back by these guys? http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00762/161917504__762929b.jpg View Quote Nyet, comrade. According to beloved comrade russkiebear, brave people's forces are not in smelly Ukraine! It is all CIA Western Imperialist conspiracy. Comrade Putin assures us of this! |
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Nyet, comrade. According to beloved comrade russkiebear, brave people's forces are not in smelly Ukraine! It is all CIA Western Imperialist conspiracy. Comrade Putin assures us of this! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The same Russians who are getting beaten back by these guys? http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00762/161917504__762929b.jpg Nyet, comrade. According to beloved comrade russkiebear, brave people's forces are not in smelly Ukraine! It is all CIA Western Imperialist conspiracy. Comrade Putin assures us of this! I must kill western pigdog who told me these lies. |
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I must kill western pigdog who told me these lies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The same Russians who are getting beaten back by these guys? http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00762/161917504__762929b.jpg Nyet, comrade. According to beloved comrade russkiebear, brave people's forces are not in smelly Ukraine! It is all CIA Western Imperialist conspiracy. Comrade Putin assures us of this! I must kill western pigdog who told me these lies. Da, but first we must of killings smelly Caucasians. |
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