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Posted: 3/29/2015 5:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you read the Old Testament? Most gods are bloodthirsty, but the god of the Bible is especially so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Passover, ever heard of that one. Infanticide at it's finest. I'm sure someone will provide a justification for the wanton slaughter of children. Edit for spelling I'm kind of curious about this line of reasoning: By tying the beliefs of Christians to something "bad" that their deity has done, you are basically trying to say they believe in an evil deity of some kind. Could you elaborate on that? Have you read the Old Testament? Most gods are bloodthirsty, but the god of the Bible is especially so. Even modern bards still tell of it.  |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 5:51:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are being dishonest. I am through. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: God is clearly a harsh master. But Acts has nothing to do with charity. It's about communal living. There is nothing charitable in the content. You are being dishonest. I am through. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 6:22:32 PM EDT
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Just saying that their all-loving God ordered the murder of children. Granted, I don't think that story is true, but if it was, why would anyone want to worship such a monster? Blah, blah, miracles, love, and salvation...sorry. There ain't no coming back from murdering kids. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Passover, ever heard of that one. Infanticide at it's finest. I'm sure someone will provide a justification for the wanton slaughter of children. Edit for spelling I'm kind of curious about this line of reasoning: By tying the beliefs of Christians to something "bad" that their deity has done, you are basically trying to say they believe in an evil deity of some kind. Could you elaborate on that? Just saying that their all-loving God ordered the murder of children. Granted, I don't think that story is true, but if it was, why would anyone want to worship such a monster? Blah, blah, miracles, love, and salvation...sorry. There ain't no coming back from murdering kids. concur |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 7:19:16 PM EDT
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If fear of God is the only thing keeping him from cutting the head off someone he isn’t going to heaven, just saying..
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Posted: 3/29/2015 7:25:55 PM EDT
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Well, that is a harsh but accurate view of moral relativism But not necessarily Atheism. Shocking to some, but an Atheist can be moral. So where do atheists get their "morals" from? I get mine from God and what He says in the Bible. Two men, one atheist and one Christian, thinks that murder and rape is wrong The Christian thinks so because he believes he will be punished if he do murder and rape someone because he read it The atheist thinks so because he feels that it is wrong Who here is the most moral person, the one who follows his instinct or the one who follow his book? Take away the book and the Christian might not think it is wrong, there is nothing to take away from the atheist so he will always think it’s wrong. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 7:29:06 PM EDT
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I just got back from looking at azaleas and drinking all weekend in Savannah.
Was shocked to see this thread still going. So, anyone change their mind yet? 
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Posted: 3/29/2015 7:58:39 PM EDT
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I just got back from looking at azaleas and drinking all weekend in Savannah. Was shocked to see this thread still going. So, anyone change their mind yet?
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm sure someone will come around eventually! 
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Posted: 3/29/2015 8:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/8d/8d0586ffe10c69de97ac0aafd494a971e001653b13ea3485c29415ecdc5f9199.jpg An ISIS rampage, no less. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: except they aren't conservatives. I was afraid of that. Some of that garbage is straight out of an Obama speech. I never thought I would see the day when Americans were defending ISIS while attacking Israel... At least not in a place like this. Rampage! http://www.quickmeme.com/img/8d/8d0586ffe10c69de97ac0aafd494a971e001653b13ea3485c29415ecdc5f9199.jpg An ISIS rampage, no less.  |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:11:25 AM EDT
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............ Yes sir, I was mistaken. He was a Communist. Acts describes the communism of property early Christians practiced. It worked well, unless you were Ananias....Acts 5:1. That could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard someone saying about Jesus.........he was the anti thesis of communism. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two men, one atheist and one Christian, thinks that murder and rape is wrong The Christian thinks so because he believes he will be punished if he do murder and rape someone because he read it The atheist thinks so because he feels that it is wrong Who here is the most moral person, the one who follows his instinct or the one who follow his book? Take away the book and the Christian might not think it is wrong, there is nothing to take away from the atheist so he will always think it’s wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, that is a harsh but accurate view of moral relativism But not necessarily Atheism. Shocking to some, but an Atheist can be moral. So where do atheists get their "morals" from? I get mine from God and what He says in the Bible. Two men, one atheist and one Christian, thinks that murder and rape is wrong The Christian thinks so because he believes he will be punished if he do murder and rape someone because he read it The atheist thinks so because he feels that it is wrong Who here is the most moral person, the one who follows his instinct or the one who follow his book? Take away the book and the Christian might not think it is wrong, there is nothing to take away from the atheist so he will always think it’s wrong. A truly moral person does what is right, and avoids what is wrong, not for the promise of reward or the fear of punishment, but simply because it's right or wrong in and of itself. Is the person whose morals and ethics are motivated primarily by the promise of reward or the fear of punishment more or less moral than the person who lives by the same morals and ethics, but without the concept of reward/punishment being the motivation in their decision making? Sure there are annoying, sanctimonious atheists (and certainly Christians). I would contend that the high water mark for morals and ethics would have to go to those that truly walk and live in a moral and ethical manner, but who do not do so out of a fear-based obligation or a reward driven mindset. Some Christians have difficulty understanding how morals and ethics can even exist with an atheist.....yet they walk among them all the time and repeatedly fail to see this. Yet another limitation to anyone who imposes blinders on to themselves. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:50:04 AM EDT
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The Passover, ever heard of that one. Infanticide at it's finest. I'm sure someone will provide a justification for the wanton slaughter of children. Edit for spelling I'm kind of curious about this line of reasoning: By tying the beliefs of Christians to something "bad" that their deity has done, you are basically trying to say they believe in an evil deity of some kind. Could you elaborate on that? Have you read the Old Testament? Most gods are bloodthirsty, but the god of the Bible is especially so. Even modern bards still tell of it.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lXEFdZAmU
The only thing better than listening to this song is watching the band play it in front of A MILLION Russians.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:01:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saying that their all-loving God ordered the murder of children. Granted, I don't think that story is true, but if it was, why would anyone want to worship such a monster? Blah, blah, miracles, love, and salvation...sorry. There ain't no coming back from murdering kids. Sorry, but you can't "blah, blah" dismiss those if you insist on the other. Don't forget the great flood. God decided the human race wasn't worth saving and He was sorry he created us. God has certainly meted out harsh punishment at times. I make no excuses nor do I feel called to do so. [ETA] I was curious about the Exodus story since it is a difficult subject and I should know more about it anyway. This is an interesting article written by a Christian apologetic. You can roll your eyes at it if you want, but it certainly offers up a reasonable explanation: https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=11&article=1205 |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:03:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing better than listening to this song is watching the band play it in front of A MILLION Russians. http://youtu.be/eJbpPh16dNMIt's the opening song in "Through the Never". Mind-blowing on my modest home theater setup. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:59:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:02:35 PM EDT
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He's a horrible person and proud of it. I can't wait until everyone who thinks like him dies off. The world will be a much better place. Good riddance.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:05:48 PM EDT
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He's a horrible person and proud of it. I can't wait until everyone who thinks like him dies off. The world will be a much better place. Good riddance. Phil sounds a lot nicer than you. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:09:51 PM EDT
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He's a horrible person and proud of it. I can't wait until everyone who thinks like him dies off. The world will be a much better place. Good riddance. 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:49:59 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure an inspection of Phil's computer would turn up some gay and kiddie porn.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 4:06:41 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure an inspection of Phil's computer would turn up some gay and kiddie porn. I doubt it. I believe he's just a clever cynic. He says the things he does not necessarily because he believes it (maybe he does) but because it sells books/airtime. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard someone saying about Jesus.........he was the anti thesis of communism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ............ Yes sir, I was mistaken. He was a Communist. Acts describes the communism of property early Christians practiced. It worked well, unless you were Ananias....Acts 5:1. That could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard someone saying about Jesus.........he was the anti thesis of communism. Indeed. What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:15:22 PM EDT
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............ Yes sir, I was mistaken. He was a Communist. Acts describes the communism of property early Christians practiced. It worked well, unless you were Ananias....Acts 5:1. That could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard someone saying about Jesus.........he was the anti thesis of communism. Indeed. What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? Despotism? God just might be a space criminal trapped on a planet behind an energy barrier at the center of the galaxy. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:22:15 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Which I find ironic considering the derision republicans heap on liberals for needing a government to tell them what to do. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:24:40 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. He doesn't need any white knights either. For that matter, if he's the supreme being of the universe, he probably shouldn't care if some guy is talking smack about him on the internet.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:25:56 PM EDT
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He doesn't need any white knights either. For that matter, if he's the supreme being of the universe, he probably shouldn't care if some guy is talking smack about him on the internet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. He doesn't need any white knights either. For that matter, if he's the supreme being of the universe, he probably shouldn't care if some guy is talking smack about him on the internet. He's a jealous god. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:26:14 PM EDT
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In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Allegedly. 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:26:39 PM EDT
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Which I find ironic considering the derision republicans heap on liberals for needing a government to tell them what to do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Which I find ironic considering the derision republicans heap on liberals for needing a government to tell them what to do. Government is not the same as an Omnipotent God. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:27:32 PM EDT
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In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. For argument's sake, because I'm curious what your answer will be. From where does he derive the right to rule? And it can't be from himself, because that's just circular reasoning. 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Allegedly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Allegedly. Get your own lines pal.  |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:28:23 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Allegedly.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:28:31 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Which I find ironic considering the derision republicans heap on liberals for needing a government to tell them what to do. Government is not the same as an Omnipotent God. God's sanction was the basis of government legitimacy for over a thousand years of western civilization. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:28:56 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. He doesn't need any white knights either. For that matter, if he's the supreme being of the universe, he probably shouldn't care if some guy is talking smack about him on the internet. He's a jealous god. He is indeed a Jealous God as the Bible clearly states. Jealousy is a fault of finite and fallible humans. But it is a positive attribute for a Sovereign God. He knows that His Glory is what is Best for us and doesn't want us to settle for anything less than Perfection. He wants what is Best for us, and that is Jesus. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:29:57 PM EDT
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He is indeed a Jealous God as the bible clearly states. Jealousy is a fault of finite and fallible humans. But it is a positive attribute for a Sovereign God. He knows that His Glory is what is Best for us and doesn't want us to settle for anything less than Perfection. He wants what is Best for us, and that is Jesus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. He doesn't need any white knights either. For that matter, if he's the supreme being of the universe, he probably shouldn't care if some guy is talking smack about him on the internet. He's a jealous god. He is indeed a Jealous God as the bible clearly states. Jealousy is a fault of finite and fallible humans. But it is a positive attribute for a Sovereign God. He knows that His Glory is what is Best for us and doesn't want us to settle for anything less than Perfection. He wants what is Best for us, and that is Jesus. Clearly, an only slightly less perfect but still totally acceptable alternative is eternity burning in a lake of fire.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:30:49 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. For argument's sake, because I'm curious what your answer will be. From where does he derive the right to rule? And it can't be from himself, because that's just circular reasoning. It is only circular reasoning because you think it is. If God is truly the Creator of all things, He has every right to rule as He pleases. And He does so. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:31:38 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Allegedly.
Get your own lines pal.
Yeah, I posted that once and really got my old buddy Troubl3shooter angry.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Government is not the same as an Omnipotent God. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Which I find ironic considering the derision republicans heap on liberals for needing a government to tell them what to do. Government is not the same as an Omnipotent God. Indeed. They can at least show where their alleged authority is derived. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:33:27 PM EDT
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. For argument's sake, because I'm curious what your answer will be. From where does he derive the right to rule? And it can't be from himself, because that's just circular reasoning. It is only circular reasoning because you think it is. If God is truly the Creator of all things, He has every right to rule as He pleases. And He does so. Sounds like might makes right. He can rule it because he created it and can destroy it. Edit: This sounds argumentative, but it's certainly not intended to be. Thank you for answering. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I posted that once and really got my old buddy Troubl3shooter angry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Allegedly. Get your own lines pal. Yeah, I posted that once and really got my old buddy Troubl3shooter angry. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:35:49 PM EDT
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Let me ask you guys a question: Have you ever considered that if God is Who the Bible says He is, then your protests would be like an ant protesting that he has looked at a human genius and decided that he thinks that human's actions are "cruel, mean, horrible, and unfair"?
Just as an ant cannot possible understand even a small part of what a human is and thinks, you and I cannot possibly understand an Infinite Creator, and our protests are as silly as the ant's. Have you considered this? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:36:07 PM EDT
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Sorry, but you can't "blah, blah" dismiss those if you insist on the other. Don't forget the great flood. God decided the human race wasn't worth saving and He was sorry he created us. God has certainly meted out harsh punishment at times. I make no excuses nor do I feel called to do so. [ETA] I was curious about the Exodus story since it is a difficult subject and I should know more about it anyway. This is an interesting article written by a Christian apologetic. You can roll your eyes at it if you want, but it certainly offers up a reasonable explanation: https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=11&article=1205 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saying that their all-loving God ordered the murder of children. Granted, I don't think that story is true, but if it was, why would anyone want to worship such a monster? Blah, blah, miracles, love, and salvation...sorry. There ain't no coming back from murdering kids. Sorry, but you can't "blah, blah" dismiss those if you insist on the other. Don't forget the great flood. God decided the human race wasn't worth saving and He was sorry he created us. God has certainly meted out harsh punishment at times. I make no excuses nor do I feel called to do so. [ETA] I was curious about the Exodus story since it is a difficult subject and I should know more about it anyway. This is an interesting article written by a Christian apologetic. You can roll your eyes at it if you want, but it certainly offers up a reasonable explanation: https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=11&article=1205 So arguing semantics makes it ok that God had a bunch of children killed? Sorry...nope. Just because a shit plan (ie killing children to get your way) in a story comes from the bible doesn't change the fact that it was a shit plan. Kinda like growing a tree that could fuck up a perfect world right where you had also placed the only two people on the entire planet, knowing they would disobey. Solution? Death and suffering for everyone! Yay! I'm just glad I stopped thinking I had to believe in/please such a monstrous character. Life has been so much better since then
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:36:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:36:55 PM EDT
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Let me ask you guys a question: Have you ever considered that if God is Who the Bible says He is, then your protests would be like an ant protesting that he has looked at a human genius and decided that he thinks that human's actions are "cruel, mean, horrible, and unfair"? Just as an ant cannot possible understand even a small part of what a human is and thinks, you and I cannot possibly understand an Infinite Creator, and our protests are as silly as the ant's. Have you considered this? Yes. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:36:56 PM EDT
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It seems that low quality chinese fishing rod and beer holder sales are down. It is time to send the point man for crazy out, and get the rubes fired up.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:37:02 PM EDT
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Morality is defined by society and government. I wonder if it got him hard thinking about raping children in front of their father. Bible thumpers gonna bible thump I guess. and this is where you fail. Morality is a social construct. Government cannot define morality - otherwise it is subject to the whims of the elected. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:37:46 PM EDT
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Thought you were through? Just with the one guy that was arguing about nothing. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:39:15 PM EDT
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Let me ask you guys a question: Have you ever considered that if God is Who the Bible says He is, then your protests would be like an ant protesting that he has looked at a human genius and decided that he thinks that human's actions are "cruel, mean, horrible, and unfair"? Just as an ant cannot possible understand even a small part of what a human is and thinks, you and I cannot possibly understand an Infinite Creator, and our protests are as silly as the ant's. Have you considered this? Sure. Have you considered the same about other religions that you considered to be false? So it comes down to not only having faith... but having faith in the correct non-falsifiable religion. Sounds like cosmic roulette. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:43:02 PM EDT
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Sure. Have you considered the same about other religions that you considered to be false? So it comes down to not only having faith... but having faith in the correct non-falsifiable religion. Sounds like cosmic roulette. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let me ask you guys a question: Have you ever considered that if God is Who the Bible says He is, then your protests would be like an ant protesting that he has looked at a human genius and decided that he thinks that human's actions are "cruel, mean, horrible, and unfair"? Just as an ant cannot possible understand even a small part of what a human is and thinks, you and I cannot possibly understand an Infinite Creator, and our protests are as silly as the ant's. Have you considered this? Sure. Have you considered the same about other religions that you considered to be false? So it comes down to not only having faith... but having faith in the correct non-falsifiable religion. Sounds like cosmic roulette. Yes, of course I have. But I have had an encounter with the Jesus of the Bible. He came into my heart and has assured me that He is just who the Bible says He is. I could no more deny that He is God than I could deny that I am me. Jesus has proven Himself to me. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:44:48 PM EDT
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Yeah, I posted that once and really got my old buddy Troubl3shooter angry.
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What's it called when it's one all powerful guy in charge of everything that tells everybody what they're supposed to do upon pain of eternal torment? In God's case, it is called a Sovereign God, the Creator of the entire universe, Who has the right to rule it as He pleases. And He doesn't need your approval or permission. Allegedly.
Get your own lines pal.
Yeah, I posted that once and really got my old buddy Troubl3shooter angry.
My bad
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me ask you guys a question: Have you ever considered that if God is Who the Bible says He is, then your protests would be like an ant protesting that he has looked at a human genius and decided that he thinks that human's actions are "cruel, mean, horrible, and unfair"? Just as an ant cannot possible understand even a small part of what a human is and thinks, you and I cannot possibly understand an Infinite Creator, and our protests are as silly as the ant's. Have you considered this? Even though I have, the problem is your fundamental bias is completely unattached to anything requiring that I do so. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:02:21 PM EDT
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and this is where you fail. Morality is a social construct. Government cannot define morality - otherwise it is subject to the whims of the elected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Morality is defined by society and government. I wonder if it got him hard thinking about raping children in front of their father. Bible thumpers gonna bible thump I guess. and this is where you fail. Morality is a social construct. Government cannot define morality - otherwise it is subject to the whims of the elected. And you think it isn't? |
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