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Posted: 7/28/2015 2:23:59 PM EDT
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So at tier VII. Pensacola or Myoko? M256 Pensacola is the worst US cruiser, while the Myoko hasn't changed since it was a tier 8 ship. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 2:32:48 PM EDT
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Same old story, US guns (15.7 km range) vs IJN torps. Myoko is a lot more maneuverable, too. Pensi can be spotted at 16km, vs Myoko at 13km. I didn't hate it in closed beta. It isn't dog crap. But, after leveland, any ship will be a let down.   |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 3:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So at tier VII. Pensacola or Myoko? M256 Atlanta.  |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 3:13:41 PM EDT
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So at tier VII. Pensacola or Myoko? M256 They're both good ships, IMHO.... |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 3:19:11 PM EDT
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Atlanta.
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So at tier VII. Pensacola or Myoko? M256 Atlanta.
Only if you're good at destroyer things, since the Atlanta is a 500 foot long destroyer sans stealth advantage and with really, really shitty Torps. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 3:25:52 PM EDT
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Pensacola is the worst US cruiser, while the Myoko hasn't changed since it was a tier 8 ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So at tier VII. Pensacola or Myoko? M256 Pensacola is the worst US cruiser, while the Myoko hasn't changed since it was a tier 8 ship. Get good at aiming the Pensacola will pin and citiadel any cruiser it is likely to face. If you plan to play high tier American cruisers you should get used to using guns no IJN CL or CA will beat you in a gun fight at equal tiers |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 3:41:26 PM EDT
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Get good at aiming the Pensacola will pin and citiadel any cruiser it is likely to face. If you plan to play high tier American cruisers you should get used to using guns no IJN CL or CA will beat you in a gun fight at equal tiers The Pensacola is off to an immediate disadvantage because of its worst-in-class concealment rating, allowing opponents to dictate the engagement. The US 8in guns have less penetration, lower velocity, and less fire chance than IJN 8in guns. It has terribly thin armor, making it very easy for opponents to score citadels - 8in guns can get citadels at any angle, at any range against it. No cruiser +/- 1 tier should lose 1v1 against a Pensacola given similarly skilled captains (lucky shots aside). The Pensacola does have good AA, making it a decent escort/support ship. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 5:04:42 PM EDT
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Bismarck and Tirpitz stats.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 5:07:11 PM EDT
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The Pensacola is off to an immediate disadvantage because of its worst-in-class concealment rating, allowing opponents to dictate the engagement. The US 8in guns have less penetration, lower velocity, and less fire chance than IJN 8in guns. It has terribly thin armor, making it very easy for opponents to score citadels - 8in guns can get citadels at any angle, at any range against it. No cruiser +/- 1 tier should lose 1v1 against a Pensacola given similarly skilled captains (lucky shots aside). The Pensacola does have good AA, making it a decent escort/support ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get good at aiming the Pensacola will pin and citiadel any cruiser it is likely to face. If you plan to play high tier American cruisers you should get used to using guns no IJN CL or CA will beat you in a gun fight at equal tiers The Pensacola is off to an immediate disadvantage because of its worst-in-class concealment rating, allowing opponents to dictate the engagement. The US 8in guns have less penetration, lower velocity, and less fire chance than IJN 8in guns. It has terribly thin armor, making it very easy for opponents to score citadels - 8in guns can get citadels at any angle, at any range against it. No cruiser +/- 1 tier should lose 1v1 against a Pensacola given similarly skilled captains (lucky shots aside). The Pensacola does have good AA, making it a decent escort/support ship. Yeah just on stats alone the Myoko looked like the way to go, and upgraded...those torps... 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:23:03 PM EDT
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A St Louis with good captain skills is nothing to sneeze at , you've got good guns and armor (better when angled) You can put a world of hurt on nearly anything within 2 tiers of you when you play smart. M256 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Played a little more, though not like some of you guys. Had a good quick fight where a BB walked into a spread of Torps from my T2 DD, and I'm really enjoying the South Carolina and St. Louis; but those are the hottest ships I've got. A St Louis with good captain skills is nothing to sneeze at , you've got good guns and armor (better when angled) You can put a world of hurt on nearly anything within 2 tiers of you when you play smart. M256 I agree. The St. Louis is an awesome ship for it's class. Really enjoyed my time in it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:57:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly fuck it has TORPS? WANTWANTWANTWANTWANTWANTWANNNNNNTTTTT! |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:58:28 PM EDT
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The Pensacola is off to an immediate disadvantage because of its worst-in-class concealment rating, allowing opponents to dictate the engagement. The US 8in guns have less penetration, lower velocity, and less fire chance than IJN 8in guns. It has terribly thin armor, making it very easy for opponents to score citadels - 8in guns can get citadels at any angle, at any range against it. No cruiser +/- 1 tier should lose 1v1 against a Pensacola given similarly skilled captains (lucky shots aside). The Pensacola does have good AA, making it a decent escort/support ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get good at aiming the Pensacola will pin and citiadel any cruiser it is likely to face. If you plan to play high tier American cruisers you should get used to using guns no IJN CL or CA will beat you in a gun fight at equal tiers The Pensacola is off to an immediate disadvantage because of its worst-in-class concealment rating, allowing opponents to dictate the engagement. The US 8in guns have less penetration, lower velocity, and less fire chance than IJN 8in guns. It has terribly thin armor, making it very easy for opponents to score citadels - 8in guns can get citadels at any angle, at any range against it. No cruiser +/- 1 tier should lose 1v1 against a Pensacola given similarly skilled captains (lucky shots aside). The Pensacola does have good AA, making it a decent escort/support ship. I just got my Cleveland but when I get the Pensacola I am planning on sticking right wi t h Little Pony in his IJN BB. We always are platooned and in the same area to start but from there we may split up depending on what needs done, but from what I have heard of the Pensacola I think I will be like a remora to him for that ship lol. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 7:06:58 PM EDT
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Holy fuck it has TORPS? WANTWANTWANTWANTWANTWANTWANNNNNNTTTTT! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Holy fuck it has TORPS? WANTWANTWANTWANTWANTWANTWANNNNNNTTTTT! 6km max range, those stats make me think the Tirpitz will be premium. I am guessing that the stats for the Bismarck are the base stats and will come with upgrades as it will be in the tech tree. Also some of you should get on and get in teamspeak so I have people to play with, I get lonely. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 7:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got my Cleveland but when I get the Pensacola I am planning on sticking right wi t h Little Pony in his IJN BB. We always are platooned and in the same area to start but from there we may split up depending on what needs done, but from what I have heard of the Pensacola I think I will be like a remora to him for that ship lol.  |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 7:16:47 PM EDT
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I just got my Cleveland but when I get the Pensacola I am planning on sticking right wi t h Little Pony in his IJN BB. We always are platooned and in the same area to start but from there we may split up depending on what needs done, but from what I have heard of the Pensacola I think I will be like a remora to him for that ship lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get good at aiming the Pensacola will pin and citiadel any cruiser it is likely to face. If you plan to play high tier American cruisers you should get used to using guns no IJN CL or CA will beat you in a gun fight at equal tiers The Pensacola is off to an immediate disadvantage because of its worst-in-class concealment rating, allowing opponents to dictate the engagement. The US 8in guns have less penetration, lower velocity, and less fire chance than IJN 8in guns. It has terribly thin armor, making it very easy for opponents to score citadels - 8in guns can get citadels at any angle, at any range against it. No cruiser +/- 1 tier should lose 1v1 against a Pensacola given similarly skilled captains (lucky shots aside). The Pensacola does have good AA, making it a decent escort/support ship. I just got my Cleveland but when I get the Pensacola I am planning on sticking right wi t h Little Pony in his IJN BB. We always are platooned and in the same area to start but from there we may split up depending on what needs done, but from what I have heard of the Pensacola I think I will be like a remora to him for that ship lol. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 8:15:01 PM EDT
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i HATE ocean
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Posted: 7/28/2015 8:16:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i HATE ocean Then you're doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 8:19:03 PM EDT
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I just got my Cleveland but when I get the Pensacola I am planning on sticking right wi t h Little Pony in his IJN BB. We always are platooned and in the same area to start but from there we may split up depending on what needs done, but from what I have heard of the Pensacola I think I will be like a remora to him for that ship lol. Don't take my criticism of the ship to mean I think it's bad, because it's not. It isn't good, but you can have success with it if you're aware of its limitations. One of the biggest drags is that it's tier 7, so it takes a lot of XP to get through. On my list of worst-in-class-for-faction ships, though, it's second best. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:55:10 PM EDT
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I am just having no luck with cruisers, so I tried switching to IJN destroyers, and I think I have found my calling.
Second game ever firing torpedoes. Not too bad for a tier II. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:35:43 PM EDT
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Figure this one out, if you can:
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:47:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs superior Russian math comrade.! 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:52:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou received a mission bonus or bonus due to your flags. ETA: I am 99.9% positive it was a mission bonus because the math reveals a 50K bonus. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:03:41 AM EDT
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You received a mission bonus or bonus due to your flags. ETA: I am 99.9% positive it was a mission bonus because the math reveals a 50K bonus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You received a mission bonus or bonus due to your flags. ETA: I am 99.9% positive it was a mission bonus because the math reveals a 50K bonus. Interesting, no flag, so I must have missed some other bonus. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:16:25 AM EDT
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Haven't played much lately but have tried to get in a few x1.5's to work on some grinds. Purchased the minekaze and free xp'd into the Aoba.
Haven't been able to get above 50% WR for the night in the last week or so however. Some teams completely lack the will to win. Decided to quit after we lost a game on hotspot with 3 ships remaining (all BB's) and they had 1 (Tier 7 IJN DD) who just drove around and capped all the remaining caps to win. I died trying to kill him. He some how got a lucky citadel it and took a big chuck of HP off and had me to < 1000hp. Even with my ROF I lost that gun fight. 177 hits, 2 kills, and a couple of base captures down the tube. Oh well...is what it is. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:22:23 AM EDT
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"Death of a Shokaku"
Next, I killed the other CV before getting mobbed by their team. My team then gave the game away. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:41:45 AM EDT
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"Death of a Shokaku" http://i.imgur.com/cqcgMu5.jpg Next, I killed the other CV before getting mobbed by their team. My team then gave the game away. Yeah, we had a few games like that tonight. Was our most frustrating night since we started playing. We both were in stock Tier 6 ships to boot. But we had several times where we and a few other ships we were with would capture the area we would go initially and kill whatever was around, look up and see the rest of the team dead or being tards :/ Just not the best night of gaming this past evening. We both got our first upgrade though so that should help tonight. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:46:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou shot down x number of aircraft in a battle, or x number in however many battles, or you landed 4 torpedos in one mission... |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:09:21 AM EDT
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been on wows so much it made me want to play my ps2 warship games. so i emulated it
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:53:43 PM EDT
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The module to boost main gun accuracy reduces dispersion by 7%:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.worldofwarships.ru%2Fshells%2F&sandbox=1 |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:58:44 PM EDT
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Dammit, I just love when a division is just fucking around and blunders it's way to victory. We took 2 BBs and a DD right down the middle passage on Two Brothers on a yolo run and ended up fucking some shit up.
And here's a short vid of a suicide run on 2 Arkansas Betas in my Murmansk. I was on fire and low HP, and just trying to get their attention long enough for my team to take them out. 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:07:44 PM EDT
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Dammit, I just love when a division is just fucking around and blunders it's way to victory. We took 2 BBs and a DD right down the middle passage on Two Brothers on a yolo run and ended up fucking some shit up. And here's a short vid of a suicide run on 2 Arkansas Betas in my Murmansk. I was on fire and low HP, and just trying to get their attention long enough for my team to take them out.  https://youtu.be/m5ZDeV55CVUNice. 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:22:37 PM EDT
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Quote History182117 - 31919 - 4450 = 145748 Difference is 50K. You finished the daily mission in the upper left corner for 50K. Something like do 90K damage to enemy ships, or shoot down 15 enemy planes, etc..... |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:23:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You shot down x number of aircraft in a battle, or x number in however many battles, or you landed 4 torpedos in one mission... Quote HistoryQuoted: |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:25:10 PM EDT
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looks like Quick saw it first. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks guys, I didn't realize it was added in that way. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks guys, I didn't realize it was added in that way. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 5:05:09 PM EDT
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Don't take my criticism of the ship to mean I think it's bad, because it's not. It isn't good, but you can have success with it if you're aware of its limitations. One of the biggest drags is that it's tier 7, so it takes a lot of XP to get through. On my list of worst-in-class-for-faction ships, though, it's second best. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just got my Cleveland but when I get the Pensacola I am planning on sticking right wi t h Little Pony in his IJN BB. We always are platooned and in the same area to start but from there we may split up depending on what needs done, but from what I have heard of the Pensacola I think I will be like a remora to him for that ship lol. Don't take my criticism of the ship to mean I think it's bad, because it's not. It isn't good, but you can have success with it if you're aware of its limitations. One of the biggest drags is that it's tier 7, so it takes a lot of XP to get through. On my list of worst-in-class-for-faction ships, though, it's second best. A couple things to remember about the 'Cola when you get to her (somehow managing ~66% w/r with one currently) 1. Never, ever, EVER trade full broadsides with anything larger than a DD. Angle your ship to mitigate chances of a citadel hit. If you show broadside, it should be while transitioning from a frontal beam angle to a trailing beam angle while enemy is reloading. Keep the angle as sharp as you can while keeping all turrets on target. 2. AP becomes much more valuable with the 8" guns, especially against other CLs/CAs. Also if you run into a BB that's 2+ tiers below you. Within 10km, I usually get 2-3 citadel hits per salvo on these type ships, including T9 CAs (haven't run into many T10's to test this on but I imagine same effect as there's not a huge armor belt difference) 3. Pick at least one other CA/BB to follow around (sounds like you got that covered). Cola's are targeted quite frequently because enemy BBs A: like seeing gigantic crushing salvos hit and B: 1-2 BB salvos is pretty much all a Cola can survive. So BBs are bad, and Clevelands are bad but anything else should be manageable in a 1v1 type scenario. Of course, a good driver can really cause issues. 4. Upgrade the hull as soon as you can. Can't explain it but my survivability/performance increased dramatically when I did. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 6:56:53 PM EDT
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A couple things to remember about the 'Cola when you get to her (somehow managing ~66% w/r with one currently) 1. Never, ever, EVER trade full broadsides with anything larger than a DD. Angle your ship to mitigate chances of a citadel hit. If you show broadside, it should be while transitioning from a frontal beam angle to a trailing beam angle while enemy is reloading. Keep the angle as sharp as you can while keeping all turrets on target. 2. AP becomes much more valuable with the 8" guns, especially against other CLs/CAs. Also if you run into a BB that's 2+ tiers below you. Within 10km, I usually get 2-3 citadel hits per salvo on these type ships, including T9 CAs (haven't run into many T10's to test this on but I imagine same effect as there's not a huge armor belt difference) 3. Pick at least one other CA/BB to follow around (sounds like you got that covered). Cola's are targeted quite frequently because enemy BBs A: like seeing gigantic crushing salvos hit and B: 1-2 BB salvos is pretty much all a Cola can survive. So BBs are bad, and Clevelands are bad but anything else should be manageable in a 1v1 type scenario. Of course, a good driver can really cause issues. 4. Upgrade the hull as soon as you can. Can't explain it but my survivability/performance increased dramatically when I did. Good stuff. Re: #4: the hull upgrade adds HP, rudder shift speed, 66% stronger AA, and 1 gun to each of the middle turrets (total goes from 8 to 10). Definitely a nice boost. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 7:17:16 PM EDT
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Two quick, general tips:
1) If you're trying to dodge torpedoes, you're often better off turning towards them. Additionally - and more importantly - reduce your speed as much as possible while turning: this will cut the initial corner even shorter (also useful for dodging that island you didn't see until the collision alarm went off). Turning away from torpedoes: 
Turning towards torpedoes: 
Turning towards torpedoes while reducing speed: 
2) When in a ship with small main guns, don't be afraid to use AP at close range (~5km): 
I smoked an Omaha with two salvos in an Atlanta (10 citadels). |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:13:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Oh, I'm Stryker428 by the way.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:00:51 PM EDT
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I am just having no luck with cruisers, so I tried switching to IJN destroyers, and I think I have found my calling. Second game ever firing torpedoes. Not too bad for a tier II. http://i.imgur.com/cJpqwcO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kiwumVp.jpg How the heck did you get 2k experience for that? Mission rewards? 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:18:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the heck did you get 2k experience for that? Mission rewards? http://i.imgur.com/w9W8kZY.png -1st win of the day give 1.5x XP multiplier
-premium account gives 1.5x multiplier -you can fly a signal flag (earned in a battle) that gives 50% XP increase (1.3x multiplier) |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:45:40 PM EDT
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Best game in a while
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:06:17 PM EDT
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Decided to try it. Lost as a goose. Sank a carrier in my first match. Downhill from here I guess. Still trying to figure out all the controls etc...
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Posted: 7/29/2015 11:06:16 PM EDT
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How the heck did you get 2k experience for that? Mission rewards? http://i.imgur.com/w9W8kZY.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am just having no luck with cruisers, so I tried switching to IJN destroyers, and I think I have found my calling. Second game ever firing torpedoes. Not too bad for a tier II. http://i.imgur.com/cJpqwcO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kiwumVp.jpg How the heck did you get 2k experience for that? Mission rewards? http://i.imgur.com/w9W8kZY.png Probably, plus 1.5x for first win of the day. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 11:11:48 PM EDT
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Pretty much filled the sky with HE and AA:
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Posted: 7/29/2015 11:46:13 PM EDT
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Best game in a while http://i.imgur.com/lanVJZ1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6hOJuMO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/M9oPbpY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iVwlgky.jpg Nice work! 
I had a similar game in mine tonight too. Unlocked it and bought it last night, so was still running in stock configuration. I darn near sunk 7. Had two ships down to < 200hp that someone finished off before my slow guns could train on them for a knockout blow. What was fun about this game is that we had it in the bag early, then completely collapsed until it was me and our remaining carrier vs. 4 ships. I was on cap and came back and sunk 3 and he got the 4th. 112k torpedo damage! 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:16:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice work!
I had a similar game in mine tonight too. Unlocked it and bought it last night, so was still running in stock configuration. I darn near sunk 7. Had two ships down to < 200hp that someone finished off before my slow guns could train on them for a knockout blow. What was fun about this game is that we had it in the bag early, then completely collapsed until it was me and our remaining carrier vs. 4 ships. I was on cap and came back and sunk 3 and he got the 4th. Stick with the 7KM torps, I played with the 10KM fish in CBT and the 7s are far more fun and my hit rate is currently at 21% with them |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:26:48 AM EDT
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Just started out, same name as here. How do you know when it's best to use AP over HE? I get AP for armored ships, but how do you know what's what?
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:33:45 AM EDT
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On many occasions this game makes me want to USMC a puppy off a cliff.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:08:12 AM EDT
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Just started out, same name as here. How do you know when it's best to use AP over HE? I get AP for armored ships, but how do you know what's what? Sorry but thread's too long to sort though. It's not so much the armor of their ship as it is the size of your guns compared to their armor? BB versus BB? AP. Cruiser versus Cruiser? AP. BB versus Cruiser?... Grey area, I usually use AP. Cruiser versus BB? HE. And so on and so forth... |
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