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Posted: 3/16/2015 1:06:22 PM EDT
What are your thoughts? Been a few years since I read through his posts. Wonder how accurate it is at this point?
http://www.anomalies.net/category/exclusives/john-titor/ Some of the young whippersnappers probably have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't buy it, but the guy definitely had some very good insight. Probably time for another read through his posts. |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 2:26:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rustler:
What are your thoughts? Been a few years since I read through his posts. Wonder how accurate it is at this point? http://www.anomalies.net/category/exclusives/john-titor/ Some of the young whippersnappers probably have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't buy it, but the guy definitely had some very good insight. Probably time for another read through his posts. Was an interesting read when it first came out. Now.. not so much. |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 2:36:47 PM EDT
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Interesting stuff. The concepts of how the world works were an interesting read.
Al Bielek was another interesting story. |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 3:01:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Positronic]
[#3]
Tommy101 said that Titor was mostly full of shit.
. . . Who ya gonna believe ? |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 3:02:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rem700PSS:
Interesting stuff. The concepts of how the world works were an interesting read. Al Bielek was another interesting story. Oh? I'm always up for a fun story... |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:13:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullpower: Tommy101 said that Titor was mostly full of shit. . . . Who ya gonna believe ?  |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:18:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jchewie1]
[#6]
Titor was an Arfcommer's creation.
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:21:58 PM EDT
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Damn, I remember reading his posts over a decade ago, it seems. I'd forgotte all about that. Were any of his posts proven accurate as time went by?
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:24:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:
Damn, I remember reading his posts over a decade ago, it seems. I'd forgotte all about that. Were any of his posts proven accurate as time went by? Of course, there is the considerable issue that plenty of time travel theories would suggest that Titor could have easily been proven correct in HIS timeline, not ours, and both could be valid. |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:25:36 PM EDT
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I remember the photo's of the "device" about the size of a tool box. It was in the back of a corvette IIRC.
What's great about the story is that Titor states that this is a different timeline from the one he left so the events could be off by date, never happen, or happen as predicted. It was brilliant because there was always a way out. Shotgun Militia Civil War Good times. :) |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:29:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Looks like a tall pile of steaming horseshit to me.
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:30:53 PM EDT
[#11]
HA haven't heard that name for a while
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screechjet1:
Of course, there is the considerable issue that plenty of time travel theories would suggest that Titor could have easily been proven correct in HIS timeline, not ours, and both could be valid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:
Damn, I remember reading his posts over a decade ago, it seems. I'd forgotte all about that. Were any of his posts proven accurate as time went by? Of course, there is the considerable issue that plenty of time travel theories would suggest that Titor could have easily been proven correct in HIS timeline, not ours, and both could be valid. Ah, yes of course. He referred to them as "worldlines", didn't he? |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 10:41:30 PM EDT
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I remember reading about this on Above Top Secret way back in the day.
Nonsense, but a good story. |
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Posted: 3/16/2015 11:12:33 PM EDT
[#14]
You mean he wasn't real after all?
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Posted: 3/16/2015 11:21:01 PM EDT
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Everything seemed very well done and believable...
Until he said he was part of the future's "shotgun brigade" or "shotgun militia." An entire brigade made up of just shotgunners? You can BS a lot of groups...but not gun owners. 
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Posted: 3/16/2015 11:26:12 PM EDT
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Memories.... It was a General Electric Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit model C204 if memory serves. Powered by dual counter rotating energy solved Kerr field micro singularites. I probably have old saved images from Pams original posts on an old hard drive somewhere.
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Posted: 3/17/2015 12:10:07 AM EDT
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John Titor was a first generation time traveler. To summarize his timeline and dates were messed up and his brain got somewhat fried during the whole process. The stuff he says though does come from a memory bank though..... Did I mention for yall to stock up on 7.62x39,7.62x51, 5.56, 223 and all other non hollow point rounds that are "armor piercing"? Load up on high cap mags also.
The man will come for it. Don't give it to him he's not polite. Your really gonna need it someday. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 12:14:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommy101:
John Titor was a first generation time traveler. To summarize his timeline and dates were messed up and his brain got somewhat fried during the whole process. The stuff he says though does come from a memory bank though..... Did I mention for yall to stock up on 7.62x39,7.62x51, 5.56, 223 and all other non hollow point rounds that are "armor piercing"? Load up on high cap mags also. The man will come for it. Don't give it to him he's not polite. Your really gonna need it someday. I wish it wasn't so late. I'm bored and I think I could have fun with this
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:32:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommy101: John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:42:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommy101:
John Titor was a first generation time traveler. To summarize his timeline and dates were messed up and his brain got somewhat fried during the whole process. The stuff he says though does come from a memory bank though..... Did I mention for yall to stock up on 7.62x39,7.62x51, 5.56, 223 and all other non hollow point rounds that are "armor piercing"? Load up on high cap mags also. The man will come for it. Don't give it to him he's not polite. Your really gonna need it someday. Holy shit. It's the future. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LGK: First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Tommy101: John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:32:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1:
Titor was an Arfcommer's creation. Seriously? Or are you just being a smart ass? |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Everything seemed very well done and believable... Until he said he was part of the future's "shotgun brigade" or "shotgun militia." An entire brigade made up of just shotgunners? You can BS a lot of groups...but not gun owners. If I recall, they didn't all carry shotguns, but they had several guys with them to breach, since much of the conflict was urban door-kicking. It was a nickname. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:38:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Heartbreaker1373]
[#24]
Originally Posted By Rustler:
What are your thoughts? Been a few years since I read through his posts. Wonder how accurate it is at this point? http://www.anomalies.net/category/exclusives/john-titor/ Some of the young whippersnappers probably have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't buy it, but the guy definitely had some very good insight. Probably time for another read through his posts. That's funny. I was reading about a bunch of weird Coast to Coast AM stuf type stuff lately, that guy included. 
I also came across the Berenstein Bears alternate reality theory. Google that for a real WTF: 
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anachronism:
You mean he wasn't real after all? Of course he was real, don't you remember the Civil War of 2004? And WWIII starts this year, so be prepared.
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Posted: 3/17/2015 2:44:34 PM EDT
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I remember the story- I like how the time machine diagram from the manual was pretty well done. There was also the photo of the laser pointer bending as it was shot out of the "time machine".
I'll have to go look it up again. I can't remember if he explained how the Corvette wouldn't wind up out in space somewhere when he got to his destination time. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:10:19 PM EDT
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Once you've figured out the complexities of directional TIME displacement, moving about in 3 dimensional space should be a very simple matter..
. . Example: You are flying in a cabin pressurized multi engine turbojet aircraft; and have a choice of several dozen potential airports at which to land.... at each airport, several different runways used according to traffic and wind direction. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:15:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By testify4:
I remember the story- I like how the time machine diagram from the manual was pretty well done. There was also the photo of the laser pointer bending as it was shot out of the "time machine". I'll have to go look it up again. I can't remember if he explained how the Corvette wouldn't wind up out in space somewhere when he got to his destination time. Yes he did, and it was actually pretty genius... Something about special, super sensitive gravity sensors that "lock" onto the specific gravity of your location, and when you begin to deviate from that gravity measurement during time travel, the sensors adjust somehow and keep you "anchored." It was a pretty genius explanation. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:35:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
[#29]
Some fun reading...the author was quite sharp.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/johntitor03.htm TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.
G° : LOL Yareisa : go on... TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part. TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a little story. TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented. TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a split second and then return. TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them. TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned. G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards? TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up about 15 miles away and 3000 feet in the air. TimeTravel_0 : feet G° : doh! TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them. wyrmkin_37 : synchronization please TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine to the Earth. TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL. TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensitive clocks and gravity sensors. TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in gravity are detected. wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under water...would you? TimeTravel_0 : Cesium. wyrmkin_37 : oh G° : isn't all this classified? surely your supposed to keep it secret whilst in the past? TimeTravel_0 : LOL!!! TimeTravel_0 : I know you think I'm nuts...come on. TimeTravel_0 : Who would believe me? G° : just asking? TimeTravel_0 : It my best defense. wyrmkin_37 : isn't celsium a higher class of quartz? don't know G° : but we don't have long to find out if you are or not TimeTravel_0 : Besides...do you know how big a hole 2 singularities make when their magnetic filed collapses? G° : won't be long before CERN (?) make the discovery TimeTravel_0 : That's right. G° : no TimeTravel_0 : Welll....either do I. But I don't want to know. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:41:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullpower: Maybe not NOW, but in the future, time does definitely exist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullpower: Originally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Tommy101: John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:43:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LGK:
You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LGK:
Originally Posted By Fullpower:
Originally Posted By LGK:
Originally Posted By Tommy101:
John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. Yes time exists. It is the fourth dimension. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:45:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anachronism:
You mean he wasn't real after all? Obviously not in this timeline. Butterfly effect. Made some small change and he just got disappeared (I hope he didn't come into contact with his younger self). |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 3:47:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0100010:
Memories.... It was a General Electric Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit model C204 if memory serves. Powered by dual counter rotating energy solved Kerr field micro singularites. I probably have old saved images from Pams original posts on an old hard drive somewhere. It was all about the IBM 5100. It was the key. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kihn:
It was all about the IBM 5100. It was the key. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By 0100010:
Memories.... It was a General Electric Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit model C204 if memory serves. Powered by dual counter rotating energy solved Kerr field micro singularites. I probably have old saved images from Pams original posts on an old hard drive somewhere. It was all about the IBM 5100. It was the key. That's the stinker right there. All the very clever creative bull shit and the only excuse he fabricated for coming back as an ancient POS computer. 
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:03:39 PM EDT
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Well first of all....by coming from the future and talking about it. He may have already changed the past.
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StewartTR: Yes time exists. It is the fourth dimension. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StewartTR: Originally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Fullpower: Originally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Tommy101: John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. Yes time exists. It is the fourth dimension. Fourth dimension my ass. Tell me what is time made off? Tell me what power clocks? Tell me what clocks measure? |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:13:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Seems like lots of trouble for a hoax
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:15:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TripleC]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StewartTR: That's the stinker right there. All the very clever creative bull shit and the only excuse he fabricated for coming back as an ancient POS computer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StewartTR: Originally Posted By Kihn: Originally Posted By 0100010: Memories.... It was a General Electric Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit model C204 if memory serves. Powered by dual counter rotating energy solved Kerr field micro singularites. I probably have old saved images from Pams original posts on an old hard drive somewhere. It was all about the IBM 5100. It was the key. That's the stinker right there. All the very clever creative bull shit and the only excuse he fabricated for coming back as an ancient POS computer. i thought the 5100 was clever but Im no computer guy |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:17:43 PM EDT
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damn goobacks
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:18:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AJ_Dual]
[#40]
I love the threads about them guessing what Dean Kamen's "IT" would be, because John Titor was from the future and supposed to "know". "IT" turned out to be the Segway.
Of course, it's always possible to fall back on "We lost those records in WWIII", kind of like a Stolen Valor guy saying "My DD214 was lost in 'the big fire'..."
And there are no real time travelers, because there is no "time" in which to travel. The Universe exists in a "long now" with no past or future, just a "present", in which energy and matter are free to move, react, and change, and we perceive different states of change and entropy as "before" and "after" to make sense of them. There is no such thing as a clock that actually measures time. All clocks, even the finest atomic clocks at NIST or other labs only measure repeatable physical processes that are presumed to occur over time, and not "actual time" itself . All of physics, and special and general relativity works just fine without actual "time". And why things don't "go backwards" is that everything that can go backwards or reverse itself does, everything else is just the statistical spread of entropy, like how you shake a jar of red and blue beads in two neat layers top and bottom, and you'd have to shake a billion years and the beads would never go back to all blue on top, and all red on bottom etc. And the "time dilation" in relativity when in deep gravity wells or moving at relativistic speeds near that of light is just reference frame issues and entropy/change progressing at a different rate because whatever clocks you're watching on the spaceship flying by at 99% light speed are just being stretched out by the motion. Although the words "progressing" and "rate" are kind of a misnomer as is every tense in every human language.. since time doesn't exist.
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:20:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: Well first of all....by coming from the future and talking about it. He may have already changed the past. Not if you believe in the theory that time/reality branches and isn't locked in a straight line thus creating an infinite number of alternate existences. If that's the case then "traveling through time" isn't what really is going on, it's more like traveling to a date/point in a different parallel universe, one that either already branched off of ours, or is created as soon as you "land" there causing it to branch off. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:20:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gaspain]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LGK: You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Fullpower: Originally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Tommy101: John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:33:11 PM EDT
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It's been a while. IIRC, he said he was in a "Shotgun Battalion" or some such thing during the war here in America.
My first thought was that they'd get wiped out before they got in effective range. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:34:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain:
time travel does exist and humans have effectively traveled fwd in time. They are called astronauts and due to relativity when they leave earths gravity, they are micro seconds farther in time younger. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain:
Originally Posted By LGK:
Originally Posted By Fullpower:
Originally Posted By LGK:
Originally Posted By Tommy101:
John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. Nope. The "time dilation" in general and special relativity from orbiting astronauts, or even the act of taking accurate atomic clocks to deep valleys and tall mountains to detect the millionth of a second difference is all consistent with there being no time. Think of the relativity examples of two clocks with pendulums. One standing on the street, one on a train going at 60mph over the railroad crossing tracks. The pendulum on the clock on the train looks like it's swinging in much longer bigger arcs and appears "slower". Getting out of gravity wells, and moving at high relative speeds is the same effect. All that happened is the entropy processes we think betray the existence of time happened differently, or even just appear different. Because like I also said above, there's no such thing as a clock that measures time. All that a clock is... is a device measuring repeated physical processes we assume happen in time. If the Universe is just a "long now" with no time, then those physical processes just move. Entropy increase is statistical, not a function of time. Like the example of shaking the jar of two layers of colored beads or sand. Shake for a billion years, and it never runs "backwards". And our brains perceive this as time. |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:36:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:37:34 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommy101:
John Titor was a first generation time traveler. To summarize his timeline and dates were messed up and his brain got somewhat fried during the whole process. The stuff he says though does come from a memory bank though..... Did I mention for yall to stock up on 7.62x39,7.62x51, 5.56, 223 and all other non hollow point rounds that are "armor piercing"? Load up on high cap mags also. The man will come for it. Don't give it to him he's not polite. Your really gonna need it someday. Didn't think you were still around. For reference. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1582943_I_m_from_the_future_ask_me_anything.html |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:37:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tommy101]
[#47]
I'm from the future, ask me anything.
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Posted: 3/17/2015 4:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tommy101:
I'm from the future, ask me anything. Will shtf in the US before 2050? If so, what is one thing I should do to prepare? |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 5:06:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: time travel does exist and humans have effectively traveled fwd in time. They are called astronauts and due to relativity when they leave earths gravity, they are micro seconds farther in time younger. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: Originally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Fullpower: Originally Posted By LGK: Originally Posted By Tommy101: John Titor was a first generation time traveler. First generation time traveler my ass. For one to time travel time must exist. Time doesn't exist, time is a man made illusion. You can NEVER time travel because time does not exist. "Does time exist" is one of humanity oldest questions. The ancients came to the conclusion that time does not exist. Philosophers throughout history supported their conclusion. Modern science back them up. That's a good question. However it proved time does not exist. In order for time to exist everybody have to move to the same drumbeat, ie Newton theory on Time. Time does not move in the same drumbeat as we now know. Let use your example: Lets said the astronaut been in space so long, he is 1 year in the future from ground control. He call back to earth and ask ground control to send him a pizza. Lets think for a second, how is that possible? The ground control is his past. His present is 1 year in the future yet he is able to called his pass and order a pizza from ground control (his pass). It possible because "time" is relative to the person. Like the other poster posted the past and the future live in the present. There is no past there is no future, only present. Time travel cannot happen because everybody is living in the present. If you're still confuse try reading this. Is more detail. https://plus.maths.org/content/what-time-0 |
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Posted: 3/17/2015 5:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avlon06:
Will shtf in the US before 2050? If so, what is one thing I should do to prepare? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avlon06:
Originally Posted By Tommy101:
I'm from the future, ask me anything. Will shtf in the US before 2050? If so, what is one thing I should do to prepare? Yes, Hard to pinpoint what's the best one thing but I would say don't ever put all your eggs in one basket and always think about what you would do if the world as you know it now is turned upside down. In other words mentally prepare yourself. |
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