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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:52:48 AM EDT
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay. That's still not choosing to be gay. True but it proves not everyone is born gay which the lgbt community claims. It also supports why gay couples should not be allowed to raise kids. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:53:25 AM EDT
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Nope. Not a choice. Think about what you are sexually attracted to. Now ask yourself, could you CHOOSE to be that attracted to a man? Could a man's ass get your dick hard and make you want to fuck it? Personally I find that repulsive. Don't get me wrong, I can see another dude and think that he's a good looking guy, but in terms of "that dude must pull down some serious hot tail!" not in the "I want to stick my dick in his asshole". I could never CHOOSE to be sexually attracted to men. In prison, it's simply because men want to empty their balls, and there's nothing else around. I'm sure there's some domination aspect to it as well, but I wouldn't call it "choosing to be homosexual." Roman culture was very much the same, minus the aspect of imprisonment. Older men were the pitchers, and younger boys the catchers. This was in addition to married relationships and it was pervasive. It would be considered disgraceful however to turn that around, young boy be the pitcher. How do you account for that? How did they manage to get their dicks hard? The culture of that time said that was perfectly normal so there was no reason to be disgusted by it, so no stigma surrounding it. Outside the right or wrongness of it, I'd be really interested to hear the genetic explanation for the Romans sexual.... openness if you subscribe to the "born that way only" club. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:54:08 AM EDT
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True but it proves not everyone is born gay which the lgbt community claims. It also supports why gay couples should not be allowed to raise kids. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay. That's still not choosing to be gay. True but it proves not everyone is born gay which the lgbt community claims. It also supports why gay couples should not be allowed to raise kids.  I didn't realize how prejudiced some people on this site are.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:54:11 AM EDT
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Tell me then, when did you decide to like girls? Was it a conscious decision? Could you just as easily decide to like men? Why would someone CHOOSE a path that will make their lives infinitely more difficult? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Choice? Not always, but sometimes... Born that way? Nope. Tell me then, when did you decide to like girls? Was it a conscious decision? Could you just as easily decide to like men? Why would someone CHOOSE a path that will make their lives infinitely more difficult? I'm so tired of the "why would someone choose to be a persecuted minority" crap. I don't care. I don't think that there is such a thing as "being gay". I think people are people, and some tiny tiny percentage of people participate in homosexual activities. I don't believe someone can be born "gay", but that doesn't mean that I believe everyone who identifies as gay made a conscious choice. There are environmental factors at play in addition to the people who do make a deliberate choice. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:55:25 AM EDT
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If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, "Keep your whore mouths shut about sex and abortion!".
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:55:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay.  No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:55:42 AM EDT
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Research studies show that (most) self-identified straight men are still aroused by homosexual (male-male) pornography. Most people are naturally attracted, to some degree, towards homosexual acts, whether that be 1% or 99% (or more likely somewhere in the middle). The choice to indulge in it is as much a matter of conditioning as your choice to be repulsed by it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a choice. Think about what you are sexually attracted to. Now ask yourself, could you CHOOSE to be that attracted to a man? Could a man's ass get your dick hard and make you want to fuck it? Personally I find that repulsive. Don't get me wrong, I can see another dude and think that he's a good looking guy, but in terms of "that dude must pull down some serious hot tail!" not in the "I want to stick my dick in his asshole". I could never CHOOSE to be sexually attracted to men. Research studies show that (most) self-identified straight men are still aroused by homosexual (male-male) pornography. Most people are naturally attracted, to some degree, towards homosexual acts, whether that be 1% or 99% (or more likely somewhere in the middle). The choice to indulge in it is as much a matter of conditioning as your choice to be repulsed by it. I find that very hard to believe. female-female, yes not male-male |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:56:31 AM EDT
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Stick a fork in him, he is done.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:57:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, "Keep your whore mouths shut about sex and abortion!". They just never learn. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:58:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sigh, why can't people help themselves from saying dumb shit. Seriously, first you have to ask much gay prison sex is there really, and of those engaging in it, how many were gay or bi before heading to prison . . . Ah fuck it . . . http://media.giphy.com/media/KpuhIX81JBlDO/giphy.gif That's really why I posted this. I don't really care what he thinks about the topic, but holy shit, how the fuck does someone running for office NOT know when they should just STFU and not answer a gotcha question?! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:02:25 PM EDT
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No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay.
No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:04:53 PM EDT
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I find that very hard to believe. female-female, yes not male-male Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a choice. Think about what you are sexually attracted to. Now ask yourself, could you CHOOSE to be that attracted to a man? Could a man's ass get your dick hard and make you want to fuck it? Personally I find that repulsive. Don't get me wrong, I can see another dude and think that he's a good looking guy, but in terms of "that dude must pull down some serious hot tail!" not in the "I want to stick my dick in his asshole". I could never CHOOSE to be sexually attracted to men. Research studies show that (most) self-identified straight men are still aroused by homosexual (male-male) pornography. Most people are naturally attracted, to some degree, towards homosexual acts, whether that be 1% or 99% (or more likely somewhere in the middle). The choice to indulge in it is as much a matter of conditioning as your choice to be repulsed by it. I find that very hard to believe. female-female, yes not male-male 
One of many studies, which all show largely the same thing. Most men are at least "partially gay," and generally those who exhibit a backfire effect (leading to "homophobia") are somewhat "more gay." It's the age old issue of doth protesting too much. Ron White puts it in a much more humorous way:
And while logic dictates that there must be the possibility of people existing that are 0% gay, and also 100% undeniably gay, statistical sampling shows more of a bell curve, with the peak being left-ish. Nearly everyone's a little bit gay, and only the trailing edge on the right being what we'd call "naturally gay." Everyone in the middle (which is nearly everyone) makes a choice to go one way or the other (or both, I suppose). This is heavily informed by societal influences, of course (which we can debate how much of a choice being exposed to that is), but the studies on the matter indicate that very, very few people are completely straight or completely gay from birth, with absolutely nothing that can be done about it. It's just that we don't notice the social influences, and so we assume that it's a natural thing. Consider other cultures that have higher rates of homosexual behavior. Perhaps more telling are societies that have high rates of homosexual pederasty. Cite ancient Greeks, certain Roman societies, many Middle Eastern cultures, and so on. Make whatever moral judgments you wish, but the fact remains that the rate of homosexuality is significantly higher, and this is not adequately explained by genetics. It is, then, a cultural and/or individual inclination - i.e. a choice. At least most of the time. Again, it's tough to identify how many people are "100% gay." But the point is, most people are at least a little bit gay. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:05:48 PM EDT
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I find that very hard to believe. female-female, yes not male-male Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a choice. Think about what you are sexually attracted to. Now ask yourself, could you CHOOSE to be that attracted to a man? Could a man's ass get your dick hard and make you want to fuck it? Personally I find that repulsive. Don't get me wrong, I can see another dude and think that he's a good looking guy, but in terms of "that dude must pull down some serious hot tail!" not in the "I want to stick my dick in his asshole". I could never CHOOSE to be sexually attracted to men. Research studies show that (most) self-identified straight men are still aroused by homosexual (male-male) pornography. Most people are naturally attracted, to some degree, towards homosexual acts, whether that be 1% or 99% (or more likely somewhere in the middle). The choice to indulge in it is as much a matter of conditioning as your choice to be repulsed by it. I find that very hard to believe. female-female, yes not male-male When you look at yourself in the mirror are you able to discern whether you are an good looking guy or not? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:05:48 PM EDT
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Gay for the stay....
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:06:47 PM EDT
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Damn it, and I had such hope for him. Yep. Just blew his chances for Babs' senate seat. I do agree with him there is a "learned" component, but there can also be genetic mutations causing neurotransmitter/hormone changes.... |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:06:53 PM EDT
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Too bad he went on that prison tangent, even if he was right. If he would have started where the interview cut off, he would have nailed it.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:07:42 PM EDT
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As valid of a statement as it being genetic. Both are unproven. Irrelevant. In today's political climate, it's a foolish thing to say. Realpolitik (from German: real "realistic", "practical", or "actual"; and Politik "politics", German pronunciation: [?e'a?lpoli?t?k]) is politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than explicit ideological notions or moral or ethical premises. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:08:09 PM EDT
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I like Ben Carson, but he should stick to medicine.
He seems like a truly decent man. I'd hate to see politics ruin him. It's not worth it, Ben! Run! Run! Run far away from anything political! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:08:46 PM EDT
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He's right. Although those raped in prison are not by choice; many do turn to homosexuality in prison by choice. It's simply a fact and he stated it. 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:13:16 PM EDT
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I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay.
No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:13:21 PM EDT
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If I've learned anythiong from watching the documentary "OZ", is that being incarcerated for extended periods of time with no physical human connection or affection can make the same sex appear to be appetizing.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:13:51 PM EDT
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Damn it, and I had such hope for him. This. So the fact that he is pro gun control is good with everyone, but telling the truth about sexual perversion is a dealbreaker? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:22:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:22:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay. No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. Youre right! Let's outlaw divorce, because there is actually evidence to support that hurting children! I mean, that's what you mean right? Not outlawing something based on no scientific evidence whatsoever, just some Impossibly cruel assumptions? I don't know about you, but if told by someone, "hey BigMat, you can't have kids because people like you were hurt by their parents" I may just teach that SOB an unforgettable lesson about abuse. To me, taking my little girl because someone like me was abused as a kid so I may abuse her is cruelty beyond reason, a person who could do that has ZERO concept or love of freedom, they are hateful. Case study: I had a rough childhood, I couldn't choose to be gay, because boobies, and I love the hell out of my daughter and I would NEVER hurt her. What now?! Your "evidence" was just put out to pasture. Do you just not like gay people? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:25:22 PM EDT
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Damn it, and I had such hope for him. This. So the fact that he is pro gun control is good with everyone, but telling the truth about sexual perversion is a dealbreaker? He's only pro gun for rural areas.
But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.” “I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated. However, if you live “out in the country somewhere by yourself” and want to own a semi-automatic weapon, he added, “I’ve no problem with that.” |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:33:36 PM EDT
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 They really can't help themselves. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:34:01 PM EDT
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A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay.
No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. Let's just say you have a 1 year old son and were just given 2 days to live. You would be perfectly fine with your son being raised by two men than a man and a woman (all other things being equal)? You'd leave it up to a coin flip amirite?
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:34:51 PM EDT
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This guy lets some really fucking retarded things fall out of his face hole.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:35:39 PM EDT
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They really can't help themselves. Conservatives drop a bowling ball on their foot, they say, "Son of an abortion! Gay marriage, that hurts!" |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:41:21 PM EDT
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Nope. Not a choice. Think about what you are sexually attracted to. Now ask yourself, could you CHOOSE to be that attracted to a man? Could a man's ass get your dick hard and make you want to fuck it? Personally I find that repulsive. Don't get me wrong, I can see another dude and think that he's a good looking guy, but in terms of "that dude must pull down some serious hot tail!" not in the "I want to stick my dick in his asshole". I could never CHOOSE to be sexually attracted to men. In prison, it's simply because men want to empty their balls, and there's nothing else around. I'm sure there's some domination aspect to it as well, but I wouldn't call it "choosing to be homosexual." Yep, his analysis is fail. Pretty sure he's speaking to his own bias on the subject, rather than being objectively analytical. The issue of sex in the prison system has been dissected ad nauseum. There's a lot to admire about the good Dr. Carson. He made himself into a success. Now, he's made himself into toast. Could that be a choice? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:41:45 PM EDT
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Let's just say you have a 1 year old son and were just given 2 days to live. You would be perfectly fine with your son being raised by two men than a man and a woman (all other things being equal)? You'd leave it up to a coin flip amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay.
No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. Let's just say you have a 1 year old son and were just given 2 days to live. You would be perfectly fine with your son being raised by two men than a man and a woman (all other things being equal)? You'd leave it up to a coin flip amirite? Absolutely. I can't see a single reason why not. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:42:48 PM EDT
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I'm sure some people are wired gay from the start but the liberal argument that it is not a choice doesn't hold up. Just look at how many gay/bi people report sexual abuse in their childhoods. This proves that environments or outside influences can turn people gay. That's still not choosing to be gay. True but it proves not everyone is born gay which the lgbt community claims. It also supports why gay couples should not be allowed to raise kids. I didn't realize how prejudiced some people on this site are.You haven't been here long, have you? Certain topics and population groups get some GD'ers positively foaming at the mouth. Homosexuals and homosexuality are one such issue. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:42:57 PM EDT
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Ben is a very wise man. The more I hear the more I like him.  Yup. Mayans used to wear people's faces, eat people's flesh, and kill their first born. I bet people on these message boards think they were born that way. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:47:00 PM EDT
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I have no problem with what he said regarding granting rights without redefining marriage. I have no opinion on the prison comment. It's no secret that there's plenty of angus pepper in prison all the time, I am not aware one way or the other whether any of those individuals choose to be gay after leaving prison.
There is no conclusive medical evidence linking homosexual behavior to anything genetic as much as people love to make that claim. I don't think either way it has any bearing one way or another on his comment about granting rights without redefining marriage. No one will pay any attention to the point of his argument, they will just run around screaming "he said gays are like prisoners bro." And onward with American political correctness castrating any possibility of allowing us to have an actual leader in the oval office instead of an actual panderer. I'm not suggesting Ben Carson would be a great president as I actually don't like him all that much, but I'm probably going to be lambasted anyway because I doubt those that take issue with what he said will actually make it this far into reading my post before responding to suggest I am a nitwit, so whatever. This is just a further example of the fact that the libs don't want gay rights, they want everyone's opinions to change to further align with their own. How is what he said even suggesting a restriction of gay rights? Answer = it isn't, they just don't like the way he said it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:47:07 PM EDT
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Damn it, and I had such hope for him. Why??? He's a one trick pony who got a bit of spotlight, nothing more. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:50:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:51:03 PM EDT
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No, what that "proves" is some gay/bi people had dog shit childhoods (see coaralation v causation, I know science!). What this thread proves is that some people want gay/bi people to have dog shit lives and can't just let people enjoy their lives. I've worked in prison, assuming ANYTHING about the broader world based on that cluster of a place is a very bad plan. For example, what if the men who rape people in prison, and it does happen, are criminals (see: they're in prison) and they were closeted homosexuals prior to incarceration? I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. Let's just say you have a 1 year old son and were just given 2 days to live. You would be perfectly fine with your son being raised by two men than a man and a woman (all other things being equal)? You'd leave it up to a coin flip amirite? Absolutely. I can't see a single reason why not. Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:51:07 PM EDT
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I have no problem with what he said regarding granting rights without redefining marriage. I have no opinion on the prison comment. It's no secret that there's plenty of angus pepper in prison all the time, I am not aware one way or the other whether any of those individuals choose to be gay after leaving prison. There is no conclusive medical evidence linking homosexual behavior to anything genetic as much as people love to make that claim. I don't think either way it has any bearing one way or another on his comment about granting rights without redefining marriage. No one will pay any attention to the point of his argument, they will just run around screaming "he said gays are like prisoners bro." And onward with American political correctness castrating any possibility of allowing us to have an actual leader in the oval office instead of an actual panderer. I'm not suggesting Ben Carson would be a great president as I actually don't like him all that much, but I'm probably going to be lambasted anyway because I doubt those that take issue with what he said will actually make it this far into reading my post before responding to suggest I am a nitwit, so whatever. This is just a further example of the fact that the libs don't want gay rights, they want everyone's opinions to change to further align with their own. How is what he said even suggesting a restriction of gay rights? Answer = it isn't, they just don't like the way he said it. Yup. See how arfcom's libs scream to stick a fork in Ben Carson over something they don't understand. They're doing this for a reason. Divide and Conquer. It's worked out pretty well so far for the libs. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:53:23 PM EDT
[#39]
I care more about his negative views on firearms than I do about his stance on gayness.
I've actually seen a few people with his sticker plastered on their cars already lol |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:54:30 PM EDT
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when really smart people do dumb stuff...I'm looking at you Dr. Carson.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:54:33 PM EDT
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Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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{snip} I don't care what two people do in their private lives or even if they get married. When that private life now has a direct influence on the mental development of a child that is different. A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. Let's just say you have a 1 year old son and were just given 2 days to live. You would be perfectly fine with your son being raised by two men than a man and a woman (all other things being equal)? You'd leave it up to a coin flip amirite? Absolutely. I can't see a single reason why not. Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. You do realize that just because you are prejudiced, does not mean everyone else is, right? That's not how logic works. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:03:45 PM EDT
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Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. I'm not "tolerating" anything. I would rather pick my child's caregiver by personality and strengths than be sexual orientation. I have a good friend that I never knew was gay until a few years ago. He taught me a lot about survival camping, helped me discover that i want to go into law after leaving the navy, and even gave my wife and I the advice that kept us together through three deployments. He is a good man that I am better for knowing. Who cares who he sleeps with? I would rather judge people by decisions they have made, and things they have accomplished, than something trivial such as race, sex, or sexual preference. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:03:48 PM EDT
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After watching that video I cannot come to any other conclusion than that Dr. Carson is a fucking idiot.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:04:13 PM EDT
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You do realize that just because you are prejudiced, does not mean everyone else is, right? That's not how logic works. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A few studies have linked religious indoctrination in children to low self esteem. Dozens of studies have linked taking too many photos of children with higher egos and obsessions with self image. So should religious people and photobugs be barred from having children. Oh you only want to bar the group that you hate irrationally from having them? cool. Let's just say you have a 1 year old son and were just given 2 days to live. You would be perfectly fine with your son being raised by two men than a man and a woman (all other things being equal)? You'd leave it up to a coin flip amirite? Absolutely. I can't see a single reason why not. Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. You do realize that just because you are prejudiced, does not mean everyone else is, right? That's not how logic works. Make a poll and find out. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not "tolerating" anything. I would rather pick my child's caregiver by personality and strengths than be sexual orientation. I have a good friend that I never knew was gay until a few years ago. He taught me a lot about survival camping, helped me discover that i want to go into law after leaving the navy, and even gave my wife and I the advice that kept us together through three deployments. He is a good man that I am better for knowing him. Who cares who he sleeps with? I would rather judge people by decisions they have made, and things they have accomplished, than something trivial such as race, sex, or sexual preference. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. I'm not "tolerating" anything. I would rather pick my child's caregiver by personality and strengths than be sexual orientation. I have a good friend that I never knew was gay until a few years ago. He taught me a lot about survival camping, helped me discover that i want to go into law after leaving the navy, and even gave my wife and I the advice that kept us together through three deployments. He is a good man that I am better for knowing him. Who cares who he sleeps with? I would rather judge people by decisions they have made, and things they have accomplished, than something trivial such as race, sex, or sexual preference. But, dude... He likes to fuck men. Don't you get it? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:07:25 PM EDT
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I'm not "tolerating" anything. I would rather pick my child's caregiver by personality and strengths than be sexual orientation. I have a good friend that I never knew was gay until a few years ago. He taught me a lot about survival camping, helped me discover that i want to go into law after leaving the navy, and even gave my wife and I the advice that kept us together through three deployments. He is a good man that I am better for knowing him. Who cares who he sleeps with? I would rather judge people by decisions they have made, and things they have accomplished, than something trivial such as race, sex, or sexual preference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well then I applaud you on your "tolerance" but I smell bullshit and if you are sincere you are in the overwhelming minority. I'm not "tolerating" anything. I would rather pick my child's caregiver by personality and strengths than be sexual orientation. I have a good friend that I never knew was gay until a few years ago. He taught me a lot about survival camping, helped me discover that i want to go into law after leaving the navy, and even gave my wife and I the advice that kept us together through three deployments. He is a good man that I am better for knowing him. Who cares who he sleeps with? I would rather judge people by decisions they have made, and things they have accomplished, than something trivial such as race, sex, or sexual preference. You are twisting the narrative. I said all things being equal. The only difference is being raised in a hetero household vs a homo household. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:09:59 PM EDT
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Dr. Carson,
Welcome to the pitfalls of candidates who don't understand that who a person chooses to have consensual sex with is none of your fucking business. When you are figuratively ass raped by the media for this incredibly stupid statement, maybe you will understand. Bye! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:11:46 PM EDT
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Ben Carson is one convincing argument away from sucking cock.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:12:35 PM EDT
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Dr. Carson, Welcome to the pitfalls of candidates who don't understand that who a person chooses to have consensual sex with is none of your fucking business. When you are figuratively ass raped by the media for this incredibly stupid statement, maybe you will understand. Bye! Did you read anything that he said aside from the prison comment? I'm assuming no. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:12:48 PM EDT
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Nope, mental illness, not a choice.
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