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This. No trash would be picked up at prosecutor's house and office, courthouse, etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The solution is to fire them as a "customer". Let them get their trash to the landfill. This. No trash would be picked up at prosecutor's house and office, courthouse, etc. Probably can't do that, but they'd be the very last stops on the route, and 7pm would come before I got there. Screw you guys, I'm going home. |
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End your agreement to service and find another company. View Quote Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. |
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So you are not outraged that the employee was jailed and not the owner of the company who actually did the defying? You are why I never want a jury if God forbid I ever end up in court. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why is it a problem to pick up trash before 7 "? Because the city that contracts with the trash company said it was. Because the people that pay the trash company to pick up trash said it was. Because the several warnings and fines that were given to the trash company said it was. If the trash company doesn't like the conditions set forth by the city then they are free to not service the city. 30 days for picking up trash early? Excessive. 30 days for being stupid and doing the same stupid thing over and over and over and over again after several warnings & fines? Meh, 0 fucks given. So you are not outraged that the employee was jailed and not the owner of the company who actually did the defying? You are why I never want a jury if God forbid I ever end up in court. Under what circumstances does "just following orders" become a valid legal defense? You're right. You don't want me on your jury. If you tried to tell me you only broke the law because your boss told you to I'd throw down a guilty verdict right there and ask why your boss wasn't on the next court docket. For all any of us know the evil employer told the employees to stop collecting their garbage so early. The employees very well could have said "fuck it, don't wanna miss General Hospital" and started the route early anyways. None of us know for sure. In my experience, companies generally try to avoid getting fined for stupid shit. On the other hand, road employees generally don't give a shit about fines that they don't pay. They just do whatever is necessary to get done as early as possible. ETA Do I think it was necessary to jail the guy? Of course not. It's fucking retarded. The whole situation is retarded. But it's what the people of Sandy Springs wanted. If you don't like it, don't do business with Sandy Springs. Their home, their rules. |
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Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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End your agreement to service and find another company. Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. |
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So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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End your agreement to service and find another company. Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. |
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Quoted: Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: End your agreement to service and find another company. Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. The company violated the collection times required in the contract. That's cause for termination. collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. at any location. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 |
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The company violated the collection times required in the contract. That's cause for termination. collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. atany location. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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End your agreement to service and find another company. Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. The company violated the collection times required in the contract. That's cause for termination. collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. atany location. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 Show me in 46-30 where that is grounds for termination. |
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Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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End your agreement to service and find another company. Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. Knowing the contract usually helps. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 (c) Collection operation.
(1) Collection times. Save and except as provided in this section, collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. at any location. Operations may only be conducted Monday through Saturday. |
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That's why they have lawyers who specialize in just this subject. It's so easy a caveman can do it. http://andrewjrivers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/caveman_2.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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End your agreement to service and find another company. Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. That's why they have lawyers who specialize in just this subject. It's so easy a caveman can do it. http://andrewjrivers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/caveman_2.jpg You should read more. They violated the contract scope of times they can collect. |
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Knowing the contract usually helps. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. Knowing the contract usually helps. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 (c) Collection operation.
(1) Collection times. Save and except as provided in this section, collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. at any location. Operations may only be conducted Monday through Saturday. I posted a link to it earlier in the thread, actually. Now show me in 46-30 where they can terminate for that. They've got a termination clause for failure to pay fines, but I'm not seeing anything about being able to terminate a contract which does pay the fines for their failure to follow. |
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Quoted: Show me in 46-30 where that is grounds for termination. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Except many townships and municipalities have contracts with services. I cannot quit my garbage service, they are the ONLY one's allowed to run service in this area. Don't know if it's the case in that area but it is mine. They very well could be under a 1-5yr contract. So? End the contract. Its done every day. I am sure that another company could be found to do it. Businesses want money. A dude working his garbageman job how his employer has instructed him is not grounds to jail him. It is absolutely ridiculous and so is supporting it. the town and the people supporting it should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope the man sues the town for every penny that they have in compensation for this BS. Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. The company violated the collection times required in the contract. That's cause for termination. collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. atany location. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 Show me in 46-30 where that is grounds for termination. Per this section: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings Just in case you missed it: "failure or refusal of the company to comply with any material provision of this article or resulting contract" |
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You guys can complain about this thread all day, but until you have heard the sound of a garbage truck slamming down a dumpster at 0400 on concrete, after repeated complaints to stop, you might have a change of heart.
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Here are the terms for ending the contract. 46-30. I don't see where they can terminate it in there, but you double check it for me. The company violated the collection times required in the contract. That's cause for termination. collection shall not start before 7:00 a.m. nor continue after 7:00 p.m. atany location. http://sandysprings-ga.eregulations.us/code/coor_ch46_artii_sec46-22 Show me in 46-30 where that is grounds for termination. Per this section: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings Thank you. |
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I posted a link to it earlier in the thread, actually. Now show me in 46-30 where they can terminate for that. They've got a termination clause for failure to pay fines, but I'm not seeing anything about being able to terminate a contract which does pay the fines for their failure to follow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I posted a link to it earlier in the thread, actually. Now show me in 46-30 where they can terminate for that. They've got a termination clause for failure to pay fines, but I'm not seeing anything about being able to terminate a contract which does pay the fines for their failure to follow. (a) Material breach. In addition to all other rights and powers retained by the city under this article or otherwise, the city reserves the right to declare any resulting contract from this article forfeited and to terminate the contract and all rights and privileges of the company hereunder in the event of a material breach of the terms and conditions hereof. A material breach by the company shall include, but not be limited to, the following: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings. Any unwarranted and intentional neglect, failure or refusal of the company to comply with any material provision of this article or resulting contract within 30 days after written notice from city setting forth the specific provision and noncompliance, said notice to be mailed to company at its principal place of business by certified mail, return receipt requested, is deemed a breach of this article, and the city council, upon notice to the company and hearing, may, for good cause, declare a contract forfeited and exclude company from further use of the streets of the city under this article, and the company shall thereupon surrender all rights in and under this article and contract. |
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So show us in the contract, what exactly the penalty is for breaking that provision. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should read more. They violated the contract scope of times they can collect. So show us in the contract, what exactly the penalty is for breaking that provision. (a) Material breach. In addition to all other rights and powers retained by the city under this article or otherwise, the city reserves the right to declare any resulting contract from this article forfeited and to terminate the contract and all rights and privileges of the company hereunder in the event of a material breach of the terms and conditions hereof. A material breach by the company shall include, but not be limited to, the following: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings. Any unwarranted and intentional neglect, failure or refusal of the company to comply with any material provision of this article or resulting contract within 30 days after written notice from city setting forth the specific provision and noncompliance, said notice to be mailed to company at its principal place of business by certified mail, return receipt requested, is deemed a breach of this article, and the city council, upon notice to the company and hearing, may, for good cause, declare a contract forfeited and exclude company from further use of the streets of the city under this article, and the company shall thereupon surrender all rights in and under this article and contract. |
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I posted a link to it earlier in the thread, actually. Now show me in 46-30 where they can terminate for that. They've got a termination clause for failure to pay fines, but I'm not seeing anything about being able to terminate a contract which does pay the fines for their failure to follow. (a) Material breach. In addition to all other rights and powers retained by the city under this article or otherwise, the city reserves the right to declare any resulting contract from this article forfeited and to terminate the contract and all rights and privileges of the company hereunder in the event of a material breach of the terms and conditions hereof. A material breach by the company shall include, but not be limited to, the following: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings. Any unwarranted and intentional neglect, failure or refusal of the company to comply with any material provision of this article or resulting contract within 30 days after written notice from city setting forth the specific provision and noncompliance, said notice to be mailed to company at its principal place of business by certified mail, return receipt requested, is deemed a breach of this article, and the city council, upon notice to the company and hearing, may, for good cause, declare a contract forfeited and exclude company from further use of the streets of the city under this article, and the company shall thereupon surrender all rights in and under this article and contract. And that's all I asked for. |
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I posted a link to it earlier in the thread, actually. Now show me in 46-30 where they can terminate for that. They've got a termination clause for failure to pay fines, but I'm not seeing anything about being able to terminate a contract which does pay the fines for their failure to follow. (a) Material breach. In addition to all other rights and powers retained by the city under this article or otherwise, the city reserves the right to declare any resulting contract from this article forfeited and to terminate the contract and all rights and privileges of the company hereunder in the event of a material breach of the terms and conditions hereof. A material breach by the company shall include, but not be limited to, the following: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings. Any unwarranted and intentional neglect, failure or refusal of the company to comply with any material provision of this article or resulting contract within 30 days after written notice from city setting forth the specific provision and noncompliance, said notice to be mailed to company at its principal place of business by certified mail, return receipt requested, is deemed a breach of this article, and the city council, upon notice to the company and hearing, may, for good cause, declare a contract forfeited and exclude company from further use of the streets of the city under this article, and the company shall thereupon surrender all rights in and under this article and contract. And that's all I asked for. Yep you asked for it and you got it. It was a silly thing to ask for considering the alternative was that a company could go into a contract with a city, violate its scope, and not be held accountable. |
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Quoted: You guys can complain about this thread all day, but until you have heard the sound of a garbage truck slamming down a dumpster at 0400 on concrete, after repeated complaints to stop, you might have a change of heart. I guarantee you that will be the last time anyone tries that shit again. View Quote The city has a multi-million dollar contract with the garbage company. Instead of seeking relief per the terms of that contract, the idiots arrested a $10 hour garbageman. This may not go well for the city... |
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Yep you asked for it and you got it. It was a silly thing to ask for considering the alternative was that a company could go into a contract with a city, violate its scope, and not be held accountable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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(a) Material breach. In addition to all other rights and powers retained by the city under this article or otherwise, the city reserves the right to declare any resulting contract from this article forfeited and to terminate the contract and all rights and privileges of the company hereunder in the event of a material breach of the terms and conditions hereof. A material breach by the company shall include, but not be limited to, the following: (d) Forfeiture and proceedings. Any unwarranted and intentional neglect, failure or refusal of the company to comply with any material provision of this article or resulting contract within 30 days after written notice from city setting forth the specific provision and noncompliance, said notice to be mailed to company at its principal place of business by certified mail, return receipt requested, is deemed a breach of this article, and the city council, upon notice to the company and hearing, may, for good cause, declare a contract forfeited and exclude company from further use of the streets of the city under this article, and the company shall thereupon surrender all rights in and under this article and contract. And that's all I asked for. Yep you asked for it and you got it. It was a silly thing to ask for considering the alternative was that a company could go into a contract with a city, violate its scope, and not be held accountable. People were making assumptions. The ordinance is freely available, so there's no need to make such assumptions. |
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Still, WTF?????????? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iF9K2Txud6k/UUntkqJWwbI/AAAAAAAAAzk/16M4cevoc1Q/s1600/jdbrainexplode.gif How does a "City Solicitor" have to power to press charges? He is not a prosecutor or Mayor or a Cop...... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Onion article? It doesn't say what law he broke? Im confused. "The city of Sandy Springs says he violated an ordinance aimed at keeping workers from waking up residents." They aren't giving you the exact ordinance, but telling you one exists. If you care, it's 46-22c1 Still, WTF?????????? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iF9K2Txud6k/UUntkqJWwbI/AAAAAAAAAzk/16M4cevoc1Q/s1600/jdbrainexplode.gif How does a "City Solicitor" have to power to press charges? He is not a prosecutor or Mayor or a Cop...... (4) Complaints. Should a collection operation variance be granted and the city receives complaints about the collection operation, the city shall verify and substantiate the factual basis for the complaint. Should the complaints be substantiated, the collection operation variance will be revoked, and the company is required to operate within the collection times set forth in subsection 46-22(c)(1). There's nothing in there that says they can incarcerate for violation. |
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My brothers buddies buddy, got a DUI running a red light and going left of center
3 days and $900 fine. I called him an Idiot when he told me the story how they ran out of beer and was trying to make it to the gas station before they stopped selling it. After he told me he has a 3 year old girl and flips burgers at Burger king. |
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Quoted: There's nothing in there that says they can incarcerate for violation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Onion article? It doesn't say what law he broke? Im confused. "The city of Sandy Springs says he violated an ordinance aimed at keeping workers from waking up residents." They aren't giving you the exact ordinance, but telling you one exists. If you care, it's 46-22c1 Still, WTF?????????? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iF9K2Txud6k/UUntkqJWwbI/AAAAAAAAAzk/16M4cevoc1Q/s1600/jdbrainexplode.gif How does a "City Solicitor" have to power to press charges? He is not a prosecutor or Mayor or a Cop...... (4) Complaints. Should a collection operation variance be granted and the city receives complaints about the collection operation, the city shall verify and substantiate the factual basis for the complaint. Should the complaints be substantiated, the collection operation variance will be revoked, and the company is required to operate within the collection times set forth in subsection 46-22(c)(1). There's nothing in there that says they can incarcerate for violation. They probably charged the garbageman for a noise ordinance violation. http://sandyspringsga.org/home/showdocument?id=578 |
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People were making assumptions. The ordinance is freely available, so there's no need to make such assumptions. View Quote Sorry if I came off as aggressive. It seemed to me that you were questioning basic logic and structure in contracts and implying that there was no ability for the town to terminate the contract. If you were not doing so I apologize for my perceived aggressive post. It just seemed like you were saying "prove it" and then back peddling when it was proven. Once again I apologize if I did indeed perceive your responses wrong. |
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The sanitation companies should respond by boycotting the community, i bet it wouldn't take long for things to change.
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"He says he’s tried fining the companies they work for, but it doesn't work; so now he's decided to haul them off to jail." Evidently they fined and warned the companies. Not the garbagemen. If they wanted to send someone to jail, it should have been the owner of the garbage company. Not some guy working on a garbage truck. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Jail time is a bit much, but I guess as long as your tender ears aren't bothered it's ok. did you read the article? they had tried everything else. Evidently they fined and warned the companies. Not the garbagemen. If they wanted to send someone to jail, it should have been the owner of the garbage company. Not some guy working on a garbage truck. I agree. He is only following orders. |
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Sorry if I came off as aggressive. It seemed to me that you were questioning basic logic and structure in contracts and implying that there was no ability for the town to terminate the contract. If you were not doing so I apologize for my perceived aggressive post. It just seemed like you were saying "prove it" and then back peddling when it was proven. Once again I apologize if I did indeed perceive your responses wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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People were making assumptions. The ordinance is freely available, so there's no need to make such assumptions. Sorry if I came off as aggressive. It seemed to me that you were questioning basic logic and structure in contracts and implying that there was no ability for the town to terminate the contract. If you were not doing so I apologize for my perceived aggressive post. It just seemed like you were saying "prove it" and then back peddling when it was proven. Once again I apologize if I did indeed perceive your responses wrong. I'm not 100% on how contracts work when they're being written into law like with ordinances. Seems to me that when the town does that, they're stuck with what they actually passed. I did a brief read-through of chapter 46 and completely missed the section that Lurch, and then you, posted. Did a bit of a facepalm when I saw it. So there is some backpedalling, but not much. |
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This should have been between the city and the company, not the driver. Most drivers can only recommend a change in their route. For us, changes only happen for safety/traffic issues. I can pull off a couple small requests in my route but pick up time is not one of them. Our start time is 5AM, no earlier. We still fall under DOT regulations for hours of service so starting early is out of the question. For those that say they should have started later, sometimes that's not feasible. Some of us may have 200 mile routes or some of us may have 2,000 or more stops.
They could add another truck to their fleet with another employee...but then the customers would bitch about the high prices of trash service... Can't have it both ways. Either deal with the inconvenience of an early pick up or shop around for another company that will do the contract under their rules. P.S. Tip your trash man and maybe he won't piss some of you off as much... |
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Wow, choosing this silly shit instead of renegotiating/ending the contract or other possible options.
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did you read the article? they had tried everything else. Did you forget where you're posting...................................... Article wouldn't open for me, but....arresting a city employee for performing required duties? Isn't there some implied protection there? Shouldn't they have arrested the management staff? I'm about 100% sure those guys were pressured to meet numbers which meant getting an early start. Again though, wouldn't open for me so maybe it's all laid bare for everyone to read with all angles perfectly represented. |
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I am not picking up trash early. I am just running late from yesterday.
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"The city of Sandy Springs says he violated an ordinance aimed at keeping workers from waking up residents." They aren't giving you the exact ordinance, but telling you one exists. If you care, it's 46-22c1 Still, WTF?????????? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iF9K2Txud6k/UUntkqJWwbI/AAAAAAAAAzk/16M4cevoc1Q/s1600/jdbrainexplode.gif How does a "City Solicitor" have to power to press charges? He is not a prosecutor or Mayor or a Cop...... (4) Complaints. Should a collection operation variance be granted and the city receives complaints about the collection operation, the city shall verify and substantiate the factual basis for the complaint. Should the complaints be substantiated, the collection operation variance will be revoked, and the company is required to operate within the collection times set forth in subsection 46-22(c)(1). There's nothing in there that says they can incarcerate for violation. They probably charged the garbageman for a noise ordinance violation. http://sandyspringsga.org/home/showdocument?id=578 Nope. All it says is they can revoke the waste hauler variance. http://www.sandyspringsga.org/home/showdocument?id=405 |
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This should have been between the city and the company, not the driver. Most drivers can only recommend a change in their route. For us, changes only happen for safety/traffic issues. I can pull off a couple small requests in my route but pick up time is not one of them. Our start time is 5AM, no earlier. We still fall under DOT regulations for hours of service so starting early is out of the question. For those that say they should have started later, sometimes that's not feasible. Some of us may have 200 mile routes or some of us may have 2,000 or more stops. They could add another truck to their fleet with another employee...but then the customers would bitch about the high prices of trash service... Can't have it both ways. Either deal with the inconvenience of an early pick up or shop around for another company that will do the contract under their rules. P.S. Tip your trash man and maybe he won't piss some of you off as much... View Quote Thank you for your service! |
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Apartments right behind us, dumpster is behind my neighbor's house. Makes an believable noise when picked up & shaken. Gets picked up at 4:30-5 AM. Called company when they opened that morning. They said 7AM is their start time. Asked WTF. They said their drivers have a set route and if they pick it up by noon, they go home. I explained noise ordinance, 7AM. I can't mow, bang on some boiler, or run a compressor before 7AM, but they can wake a neighborhood? They agreed. Dude came back at 4:45 next week. I explained to the company if I heard that again, I would move my vehicle in front of the driveway and block their truck in until police could arrive and cite dude. They said GREAT! Called business licensing and the apartment owners. Made a complaint to each. Problem solved. No cops. Those who yell about "enforce existing laws" (I agree) then say this is no big deal get to pick & choose which laws to enforce and who is annoyed by what levels of excessive noise that are against city ordinance? |
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I applied for a job with Waste Management back in the 80's because "everybody knows" that being a garbageman is an awesome job! Back then, the routes were drawn up and paid based on how many hours it "should" take to complete. If you took longer to do it, tough shit - they paid what the route paid. Flat tire, somebody calls in sick for a week leaving you a man short... tough shit. No extra pay for any extra work. If you got the route done in less time, though, it meant less time the truck was on the road burning up fuel and incurring insurance risk. So if you shaved a half hour or an hour off the route time, you would get a bonus. The whole team (usually three guys) would split the bonus. The hell of it was, some routes paid more for relatively less work, and some routes paid less for relatively more work - and all routes were bid by seniority, so it took you years to work your way up to the "good" routes. I respectfully declined their kind offer of employment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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From what I understand they have a set schedule, if they don't meet the time frames, get their route done and back to the yard, they will be in trouble, it is why they are always in a hurry speeding around etc.... Likely those guys were just trying to get a jump start in order to meet the demand of their schedule. I applied for a job with Waste Management back in the 80's because "everybody knows" that being a garbageman is an awesome job! Back then, the routes were drawn up and paid based on how many hours it "should" take to complete. If you took longer to do it, tough shit - they paid what the route paid. Flat tire, somebody calls in sick for a week leaving you a man short... tough shit. No extra pay for any extra work. If you got the route done in less time, though, it meant less time the truck was on the road burning up fuel and incurring insurance risk. So if you shaved a half hour or an hour off the route time, you would get a bonus. The whole team (usually three guys) would split the bonus. The hell of it was, some routes paid more for relatively less work, and some routes paid less for relatively more work - and all routes were bid by seniority, so it took you years to work your way up to the "good" routes. I respectfully declined their kind offer of employment. The bold part sounds familiar. |
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