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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:09:19 PM EDT
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No trouble for me getting what I want to eat. Some family restaurants have closed. Most everything is cash and the hotel isn't a chain. Pensions have already been raided or at least some. My friend's MIL lives here and they cut her (earned) pension from 900 Euro a month to 500. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any trouble getting what you want to eat? What are the restaurant situations, selections, and prices like? Is your hotel an international chain or local? No trouble for me getting what I want to eat. Some family restaurants have closed. Most everything is cash and the hotel isn't a chain. Pensions have already been raided or at least some. My friend's MIL lives here and they cut her (earned) pension from 900 Euro a month to 500. Time to leave ? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:11:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if you see a dollar bill on the ground, DO NOT bend over to pick it up.  Excellent advice
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:11:25 PM EDT
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I only keep around $200 in the bank for a reason. 
Because you're broke? 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:12:18 PM EDT
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Mexico of the Mediterranean. Always was my impression of the place. I avoided it when I was stationed in Germany. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:20:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, blaming someone else for your misfortunes is a fools errand. Maybe if the Greeks studied Economics in school they wouldn't be having these issues. Seriously, tell your Greek friends to pick up a damn economics text book and connect the dots. On a lighter note, enjoy the beautiful scenery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done  The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. lol, blaming someone else for your misfortunes is a fools errand. Maybe if the Greeks studied Economics in school they wouldn't be having these issues. Seriously, tell your Greek friends to pick up a damn economics text book and connect the dots. On a lighter note, enjoy the beautiful scenery. No shit, If it weren't for the EU, they would have gone under 10 years ago. Fucking socialists.  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:23:46 PM EDT
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Greece is living proof that Margaret Thatcher was exactly right. Sooner or later you run out of other people's money, and we're seeing what happens when that occurs.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as the TV and internet still worked and the drive thru is open...a majority of people would do absolutely nothing. IMO Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. As long as the TV and internet still worked and the drive thru is open...a majority of people would do absolutely nothing. IMO |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:28:55 PM EDT
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Greece is living proof that Margaret Thatcher was exactly right. Sooner or later you run out of other people's money, and we're seeing what happens when that occurs. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:32:08 PM EDT
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You should be able to get some great blow jobs, and a little Greek action for next to nothing.....
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Posted: 3/2/2015 6:32:59 PM EDT
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Yes, stuff seems pretty damn cheap so far from what I see. My friend drives like a maniac and was doing 100 in a 50 kmh zone, but other cars were zooming past us. She said the police don't bother with traffic anymore and since there is no money, none of the cameras work. She also said if you get stopped you will be fined on the spot and the cash goes straight into the police's pocket. So far only the hotel is taking my credit card. Taxis and restaurants are taking cash so they don't have to claim it. Lots of places have gone to cash only. I saw a lot of nice boats for sale. European classics, cabin cruisers, cigarette boats. Bingo. That's why the Greeks can't collect taxes. They raised them so high, and created barriers to people legally operating businesses, that they just go cash & carry and forget the Gov't license. The EU needs to let Greece fail. Or else Italy will be next. (Spain seems to be getting better...) |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:06:17 PM EDT
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Poor hot Greek chics could be desperate.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:11:51 PM EDT
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OP, you need to post a sign, "best blowjob wins trip to USA". They'll be fighting to smoke dat pole.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:19:27 PM EDT
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hmmmm.... so would you recommend this as a place to go for a vacation?
(is it safe and can your money smooth things out? take advantage of, but not exploit, the situation) I just want to go and see the sights. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:25:45 PM EDT
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As long as the TV and internet still worked and the drive thru is open...a majority of people would do absolutely nothing. IMO If someone walked in your front door and started stealing you shit and threatening you, what would you do? Why do you think it would be any different if the .gov stole your saving and 401k? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly shitsnacks that is a spooky picture. There is not a single person anywhere in that photo. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:32:02 PM EDT
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Quote Historylooks like a good time. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:33:22 PM EDT
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if they robbed half of everything over 100k in the bank the masses would probably celebrate while the people who earned money by working hard would probably be lynched.. it would be the government basically putting their seal of approval on robbing anyone who didnt just sit on their ass all their lives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done
The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. As long as the TV and internet still worked and the drive thru is open...a majority of people would do absolutely nothing. IMO if they robbed half of everything over 100k in the bank the masses would probably celebrate while the people who earned money by working hard would probably be lynched.. it would be the government basically putting their seal of approval on robbing anyone who didnt just sit on their ass all their lives. Like the scene in The Dark Knight Rises. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:33:32 PM EDT
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The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. And what do you realistically expect to happen? Do you think people will go in and shoot the clerk, the poor lady behind the counter whos as screwed as you? Maybe the bank president, although he is simply following orders too. Or do you expect them to get in their cars and actually drive hundreds, even thousands of miles to Washington to start their shooting? The fact is most will do nothing at all, be it from a lack of a clear target or the incredible difficulties in getting to that target. No, we'll be no different than the Greeks. We'll throw a few bottles at courthouses and put nasty words on our Facebook page and then move on. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:39:43 PM EDT
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Beautiful country. Spent my honeymoon there. Clearest water I have ever seen. I got nothin' on how to get them out of their mess. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:40:27 PM EDT
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Any buttfucking yet, or is that for the later in the trip?
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:46:15 PM EDT
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That's sad. I was there in the 70's. I went to corfu athens, and wherever the Minoan archeological digs were.
The people were kind of like the french, kind of arrogant and snotty. My grandparents came from Greece in the 20's. The Greek that came to this country then are nothing like current greeks. I've even heard this from other greeks. Older ones not current ones. My family was in the restaurant and candy making business of course. It's a thing with greeks. Not Greek restaurants, just regular ones with more olive oil. Anyway, it was pretty there, the water is beautiful. It saddens me that one of the first civilized cultures have fallen this far. I also am confused about all the mirth from posters. When it happens here, and it will happen here, it will be much worse. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 7:47:43 PM EDT
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Holy shitsnacks that is a spooky picture. There is not a single person anywhere in that photo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Holy shitsnacks that is a spooky picture. There is not a single person anywhere in that photo. Who goes on vacation to see fuckin' people? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:01:56 PM EDT
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Less people I have to be around on vacation the better it is. That would be our kind of trip have the beach all to ourselves.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:07:04 PM EDT
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Yes it has.......This is what happens when you run out of other people's money to spend. The Greeks want to live the...Sweet Life......but don't want to pay for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Socialism has come home to rest. Yes it has.......This is what happens when you run out of other people's money to spend. The Greeks want to live the...Sweet Life......but don't want to pay for it. People could not take a hint from Cuba after the USSR stopped supporting them in 1989. Apparently, people can't learn from Venezuela today either (which makes Cuba look luxurious by comparison). I only wish I believed the tax-dodging Italians were paying attention, but I know they are not. Dodging taxes and run-away socialism have consequences. Ie- stupid hurts. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:07:51 PM EDT
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lol, blaming someone else for your misfortunes is a fools errand. Maybe if the Greeks studied Economics in school they wouldn't be having these issues. Seriously, tell your Greek friends to pick up a damn economics text book and connect the dots. On a lighter note, enjoy the beautiful scenery. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done
The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. lol, blaming someone else for your misfortunes is a fools errand. Maybe if the Greeks studied Economics in school they wouldn't be having these issues. Seriously, tell your Greek friends to pick up a damn economics text book and connect the dots. On a lighter note, enjoy the beautiful scenery. And one day someone will be saying that to you and your American friends. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:08:58 PM EDT
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Let them eat souvlaki. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:12:38 PM EDT
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Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done
The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. What's the price of a nice villa on the coast? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:14:25 PM EDT
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Find me a nice beach villa for sale Damn, beat |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:17:04 PM EDT
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It's very hard to do business in Greece. Lots of relegation to keep government employees employ. Greece government is a parasite.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:22:59 PM EDT
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Does it seem safe over there? I'm going with a group in a couple months, flying into Athens then over to Italy, then back to Athens to come home.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:26:23 PM EDT
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The Greeks have always been at the cutting edge of everything; mathematics, science, philosophy, athletics, democracy, and yes, socialism. It's just my fellow Greeks, again showing the rest of the world that Socialism is unrealistic and unsustainable ideology. But I don't think the rest of the world, including the fuckwits libs here in the USA are even paying attention.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" Maggie's statement was absolutely profound. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:26:34 PM EDT
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Where did anybody mention trying to sell him children? Are you nuckin' futz? Incidentally....I might just be a Romnichels. Talk shit about gypsies now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The people asking for money and trying to sell you children are not Greeks, they're gypsies. Greece has had a huge problem with them over the past 10+ years Incidentally....I might just be a Romnichels. Talk shit about gypsies now. That's nice dear. He's right. The beggars are all gypsies from Bulgaria, Romania or Albania. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:32:50 PM EDT
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It's very hard to do business in Greece. Lots of relegation to keep government employees employ. Greece government is a parasite. And this is different from the USA exactly how? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:34:39 PM EDT
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Who goes on vacation to see fuckin' people? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy shitsnacks that is a spooky picture. There is not a single person anywhere in that photo. Who goes on vacation to see fuckin' people? Well, it is Greece... |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:41:56 PM EDT
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That's fine and all.....but do tell us about the Greek women.  This! Dated one once. The day finally came when I unbuttoned her blouse. She had a hairier chest than I do. I made an excuse about not feeling well and buttoned her back up. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:44:53 PM EDT
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Because you're broke? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I only keep around $200 in the bank for a reason.
Because you're broke? That's my reason. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:47:43 PM EDT
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Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done
The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. If they get out of the EU they are gonna have to pay those debts they owe somehow. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:50:55 PM EDT
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Holy shitsnacks that is a spooky picture. There is not a single person anywhere in that photo. Who goes on vacation to fuck sea people? FIFY
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:51:10 PM EDT
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And this is different from the USA exactly how? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's very hard to do business in Greece. Lots of relegation to keep government employees employ. Greece government is a parasite. And this is different from the USA exactly how? Because we work hard and don't take August off. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:53:04 PM EDT
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I visited athens and santorini back in 2009, and this was before much of the unrest. The locals I met were all friendly to americans, and most were educated in the US or UK. I didn't get the vibe of communism from the folks I met, although it's a small sample size. Natural beauty, great food, and hot women were plentiful.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:56:06 PM EDT
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I especially like how it's Germany's fault. Now can we get the hot Greek chic pics? Many Greeks become cock suckers because most times the men are prettier. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:56:27 PM EDT
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Cry me a river Greece...
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:58:52 PM EDT
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Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy.
Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Mati is a small resort town near the port of Rafina, on the east coast of Attica outside Athens. You went to a tourist resort but it's too early for tourist season. Therefore, none of this is surprising. The women begging at the airport are Gypsies. They've been doing this since time immemorial. Greeks don't do this, even if they're destitute. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped.
I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) Surveys show that less than 30% of Greeks want out of the EU, and more than 70% say the opposite, even going so far as to say that Greece should keep the euro currency "at all costs." This actualy ties Tsipras' hands in the negotiations, since he has to be responsive to public opinion. The only parties that are officially in favor of withdrawing from the EU are the Communists (KKE) and the Nazis (Golden Dawn). The people that you talked to must be on the extremes of the political spectrum, or they're just yanking your chain. The people foraging in the fields were picking dandelion greens ("radikia"), which are delicious boiled, as a side dish. These are not generally available in the markets; you have to pick them yourself. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. Real estate in Greece is a bargain right now, except that it leaves you open to confiscatory taxation. Last year they had the ENFIA (Unified Tax on Ownership of Real Property) that everyone complained about and which was a factor in Tsipras' electoral victory. This year, it's going to be the FMAP (Tax on Large Real Estate Holdings) that will apply to everything over a certain minimum (200,000 euros, 300,000 euros -- no one knows yet). I personally think that in the long run, Greece would be better off abandoning the euro currency (while staying in the EU). The Greeks are too inertia-driven to go down this path willingly. They'll have to be forced out by circumstances. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:53:28 PM EDT
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It's very hard to do business in Greece. Lots of relegation to keep government employees employ. Greece government is a parasite. And this is different from the USA exactly how? Sounds a lot like CT, but we don't have all those ancient temples. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:59:17 PM EDT
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I especially like how it's Germany's fault. Now can we get the hot Greek chic pics? 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Always was my impression of the place. I avoided it when I was stationed in Germany. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mexico of the Mediterranean. Always was my impression of the place. I avoided it when I was stationed in Germany. Meh, my opinion didn't form in a vacuum. I have a number of close friends from Greece or are 1st gen American. Just like Mexico it is two beautiful coasts between a pile of hundreds of years of laziness and corruption. I guess the difference is no one dreams of sneaking across the border to Albania, but that is another thread. Still kinda want to go because of the history. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:12:17 PM EDT
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Cry me a river Greece... Don't be too smug. We're drifting down the same stream towards the same waterfall they're going over, and instead of pulling for shore, we're paddling as fast as we can to catch up. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:19:24 PM EDT
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The people asking for money and trying to sell you children are not Greeks, they're gypsies. Greece has had a huge problem with them over the past 10+ years Yes, huge camps of them in the countryside. France has them real bad as well. For some reason, very few in Germany. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:23:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:25:51 PM EDT
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Staying in the village of Mati at a resort hotel right on the water and so far it seems myself and a colleague are the only ones in this hotel besides a few staff members, pretty weird and creepy. Lots of shops and houses either deserted or boarded up. As soon as I came out of the airport women were begging for money to buy food for their kids. Another friend from Cyprus joined us and has been telling me what's going on. There is no money, govt is raiding pensions to get more money and a lot of govt handouts have stopped. I saw people out in fields picking stuff and my friend said they come from Athens and other places to dig wild roots to supplement their dinners. So far all the Greeks I have talked to want out of the EU and out from under the Germans. (Their words, not mine) I asked my friend from Cyprus about their banking crisis awhile back. She said they woke up on Saturday and the govt had seized the banks, you could not touch your money for a few days and then you could only take out 300 Euro's. At first they said anyone with 100,000 Euro or less was getting a 7.9% tax on their money in the bank. If you had over 100,000 Euro's you were getting a 12.9% tax. Because of the public outcry they didn't tax the ones under 100K but those over 100K ended up getting taxed close to 50% once it was all done
The people didn't rise up they just demonstrated. I told her I didn't even want to think what the US would be like if the govt shutdown the banks and started seizing money, I would think that might be the boiling point for the average American but I could be wrong. Lots of homes for sale at about 25% the value if any of you are interested. You don't say. How much is a trip over there? 
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