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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:07:01 AM EDT
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Nothing new. Many libs have been saying this for years, if not decades. Some even claim that expectations of literacy are racist.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:08:25 AM EDT
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First they came for cursive and I said nothing....
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:21:13 AM EDT
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This is what happens when life is too easy.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:21:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Prescriptive grammar– which is what "grammar snobs” champion – says that there’s such a thing as one true, honest, pure form of a language and that only that version is correct or acceptable. Descriptive grammar, on the other hand, argues that however a language is being used to communicate effectively is correct – because that is the basic purpose of language. http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/27574-proper-english-grammar-is-racist-and-oppressive-according-to-everday-feminism She's right. The correct language to use is the one that communicates most effectively. It just so happens that the language that communicates most effectively... is the one that most closely follows the established rules of grammar. The point of grammar isn't to piss off the schoolchildren who have to study it. It's to ensure that there is a coherent structure, minimal ambiguity, and common frame of reference for both writer and reader, speaker and listener. In other words, grammar is there to maximise the effectiveness of the language.  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:22:25 AM EDT
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They would love GD, then.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:25:09 AM EDT
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In other words, grammar is there to maximise the effectiveness of the language. Racist. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:38:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Racist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In other words, grammar is there to maximise the effectiveness of the language. Racist. I live in a country that spent a few hundred years telling various shades of brown people how to live their lives. Don't you be oppressing my cultural heritage  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:41:30 AM EDT
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I speak Jive...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:43:13 AM EDT
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Words be racist, yo.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 9:45:30 AM EDT
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Feminists hate boundaries. For themselves.
They are ok with endless boundaries for Western European hetero descended male patriarchal hegemony beneficiaries though. Part of the historically aggrieved movement. A day of reckoning is a coming. Afterwards. Utopia. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:55:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Feminists hate boundaries. For themselves. They are ok with endless boundaries for Western European hetero descended male patriarchal hegemony beneficiaries though. Part of the historically aggrieved movement. A day of reckoning is a coming. Afterwards. Utopia. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:56:10 AM EDT
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So many special snowflakes.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:58:06 AM EDT
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First they came for cursive and I said nothing.... 
Good one. Penmanship and oral & written communication skills have gone to shit in this country. When I saw some of the handwriting on applications at my last job, I wept. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:00:10 AM EDT
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Uniform language is oppressive, so yhwer ksaldj freir fhdjh.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:05:19 AM EDT
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The purpose of language IS to communicate, which is went we have a proscribed set of rules for how to do it. Ignoring the rules makes language less useful.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:11:42 AM EDT
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None of that shit is really important ... unless you want people to know what the fuck you are talking about.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:13:36 AM EDT
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The word 'ask' is racist and should be banned.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:23:26 AM EDT
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She's at least partially right.
Language, specifically the different vernaculars and dialects of individual languages, have almost always dovetailed beautifully with the speakers' position on the social ladder. Example: in films and cartoons, the stereotypical rich snobs speak with a posh English accent, the downtrodden social filth speak cockney. Its nothing new. I wouldn't call it racist though, that's just how society works sometimes. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:29:42 AM EDT
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Tower of Babel shit there.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:44:52 AM EDT
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Didn't you know? Everything is feminist, sexist, and racist. The world just plain hates everyone. And whitey is to blame.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:50:07 AM EDT
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Next up; anti discrimination laws against illiteracy.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:52:02 AM EDT
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I live in a country that spent a few hundred years telling various shades of brown people how to live their lives. Don't you be oppressing my cultural heritage
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In other words, grammar is there to maximise the effectiveness of the language. Racist.
I live in a country that spent a few hundred years telling various shades of brown people how to live their lives. Don't you be oppressing my cultural heritage
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:55:14 AM EDT
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None of that shit is really important ... unless you want people to know what the fuck you are talking about. Then why do you taunt me with your sentence structure? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:05:12 PM EDT
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She's at least partially right. Language, specifically the different vernaculars and dialects of individual languages, have almost always dovetailed beautifully with the speakers' position on the social ladder. Example: in films and cartoons, the stereotypical rich snobs speak with a posh English accent, the downtrodden social filth speak cockney. Its nothing new. I wouldn't call it racist though, that's just how society works sometimes. 'Enry 'iggins would quite agree, Gov'nor. The liberals and Feminists have been fighting to control language forever-who ever controls the language can set the conversation however they like. Control is the key word. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:16:00 PM EDT
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This is what happens when life is too easy. Truth here ^^ |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:16:39 PM EDT
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This is what happens when students are forced to read Maya Angelou for four years in school.
Maya Angelou: A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song. English is associated with pain and failure and they reject it in favor of language that expresses their ideals and aspirations. AAVE (txt dialect): rappn 4 som biches we jmpng n shit we kil u mfkrs |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:17:46 PM EDT
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This is what happens when life is too easy. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:19:30 PM EDT
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Didn't you know? Everything is feminist, sexist, and racist. The world just plain hates everyone. And whitey is to blame. That does seem to be a common theme, doesn't it? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:20:04 PM EDT
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You have to admit, it is quite entertaining watching the stuff the left comes up with that offends them.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:25:38 PM EDT
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The word 'ask' is racist and should be banned. It's not the word but the spelling. It's okay to spell it "aks" and pronounce it that way, too. That's part of their culture. #misspelledwordsmatter |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:28:42 PM EDT
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what makes me chuckle is that many people have an idea that there were rules to begin with. the language isn't based on the rules--it's the other way around. language is organic. it evolves. remember in school when they taught you why science uses latin?
don't get me wrong--the ability to use language properly is important. but the "rules" are nothing more than the most recent consensus of writers as to how everyone is supposed to speak. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:28:51 PM EDT
[#32]
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She's right. The correct language to use is the one that communicates most effectively. It just so happens that the language that communicates most effectively... is the one that most closely follows the established rules of grammar. The point of grammar isn't to piss off the schoolchildren who have to study it. It's to ensure that there is a coherent structure, minimal ambiguity, and common frame of reference for both writer and reader, speaker and listener. In other words, grammar is there to maximise the effectiveness of the language.
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Prescriptive grammar– which is what "grammar snobs” champion – says that there’s such a thing as one true, honest, pure form of a language and that only that version is correct or acceptable. Descriptive grammar, on the other hand, argues that however a language is being used to communicate effectively is correct – because that is the basic purpose of language. http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/27574-proper-english-grammar-is-racist-and-oppressive-according-to-everday-feminism She's right. The correct language to use is the one that communicates most effectively. It just so happens that the language that communicates most effectively... is the one that most closely follows the established rules of grammar. The point of grammar isn't to piss off the schoolchildren who have to study it. It's to ensure that there is a coherent structure, minimal ambiguity, and common frame of reference for both writer and reader, speaker and listener. In other words, grammar is there to maximise the effectiveness of the language.
^^^All of this. ^^^ Further, English is a living language that is constantly morphing to catch up with the times. It will always lag behind modern times, but it does change. Once, the use of the word 'man' was thought to include all people as one of its definitions. That is changing and more gender neutral words are being used in its place. The same holds true for other uses of the masculine and feminine; words are becoming neutral unless they need to be gender specific. Future tense is moving from 'he' or 'she' to 'they're', whether singular or plural. She needs to be patient. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:43:40 PM EDT
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Then why do you taunt me with your sentence structure? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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None of that shit is really important ... unless you want people to know what the fuck you are talking about. Then why do you taunt me with your sentence structure? To keep you on your toes? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:45:06 PM EDT
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This is what happens when students are forced to read Maya Angelou for four years in school. Maya Angelou: A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song. English is associated with pain and failure and they reject it in favor of language that expresses their ideals and aspirations. AAVE (txt dialect): rappn 4 som biches we jmpng n shit we kil u mfkrs I tol dat whit beyotch she bess be gettin to sukkin it yo she be all like whitey ey at mah brwn fuxstix mane. Sall gut tho imma fixtin ta git rid ol raciss babbs iffin yu ain don wit da brwn youse git stichs muhafuha |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:05:53 PM EDT
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I have no idea how I missed this before, but I did, and I'm kinda wishing now that a clever and competent reader hadn't put it on our FB page, because I read it, and now my head hurts from all of the ridiculousness in this article. It's written by an English teacher, and it's about grammar and how oppressive and racist it can be. No joke. And because it's written by someone who ostensibly cares a great deal about correct syntax and proper sentence construction, it's written really well. Unfortunately, it just says a lot of really really really ridiculous stuff. Because the author is a social justice warrior (I know), she has a problem with "grammar snobbery in social justice movements" and believes that "purporting one form of English as elite is inherently oppressive." She believes there's "a difference between understanding grammar and demanding it." She explains that there are two schools of thought about what entails successful communication; specifically: Prescriptive grammar– which is what “grammar snobs” champion – says that there’s such a thing as one true, honest, pure form of a language and that only that version is correct or acceptable. Descriptive grammar, on the other hand, argues that however a language is being used to communicate effectively is correct – because that is the basic purpose of language. http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/27574-proper-english-grammar-is-racist-and-oppressive-according-to-everday-feminism Hmmm...seems she's never heard of sociolinguistics. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:22:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:27:41 PM EDT
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It's racist to allow subcultures the ideology that being able to comprehend a written language isn't a good idea or even necessary. Especially one that is used as the primary form of communication to transfer ideas & concepts pertaining to every facet of life.
It is, however, a well established understanding that in any language dialects are going to develop & evolve. The truly affluent can multi-task in this regard. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:31:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:38:15 PM EDT
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Yet another example of why we are well overdue for a global plague.
There are too many people on this planet to the point where there is no real definition of sheer stupidity. It's time to start handing out Darwin awards like candy on Halloween. Then, perhaps society will balance out and once again, we will recognize uber-derp right away when it's staring us in the face and we can correct it before it it infects others. I say plague rather than natural disaster becasue the biggest retards don't vaccinate... 
EDIT: To add another point, the improper use of grammar is almost always the reason for needing concepts like "context". When people use language properly, there is no room for ambiguity, and therefore no ideas could be misconstrued. Don't think so? Remember this point next time anyone asks NoloContendre to translate the legal documents he shares with us... |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:43:38 PM EDT
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This is what happens when life is too easy. Idle hands are the devils playground. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:04:44 PM EDT
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qwerty
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Idle hands are the devils playground. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is what happens when life is too easy. Idle hands are the devils playground. qwerty |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:10:19 PM EDT
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We can't even tell the color of a dress. How the hell will we even have proper English as the excepted standard.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:29:40 PM EDT
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You have to admit, it is quite entertaining watching the stuff the left comes up with that offends them. A good chunk of the soft degree academia NEEDS something to be offended about. They need something to rally gainst and write about, or their jobs are in danger. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:35:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can't even tell the color of a dress. How the hell will we even have proper English as the excepted standard. We have proper English as the accepted standard. I have no idea what the hell you guys have on that side of the pond Edited to add: and having just noticed your username (assuming you're not just a fan of hurricanes or Sleepy Hollow), I should point out that "guys" includes "girls"  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:38:44 PM EDT
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We can't even tell the color of a dress. How the hell will we even have proper English as the excepted standard. Apparently, we won't
Sorry, couldn't help it. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 2:59:40 PM EDT
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Werd; but ~ iz herz 1st thyme dis qtzip a idear set 4th bi ? educ8r x£in =ity ? <=>.
Word. But hers is not the first time this cutesy pie of an idea was set forth by some educator expounding "equality is unconditionally material equivalence." |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 3:05:30 PM EDT
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You know, I am almost willing to let the moose-limbs take over, if only to silence the feminazis and leftists. Almost. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 3:08:30 PM EDT
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We have proper English as the accepted standard. I have no idea what the hell you guys have on that side of the pond
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We can't even tell the color of a dress. How the hell will we even have proper English as the excepted standard. We have proper English as the accepted standard. I have no idea what the hell you guys have on that side of the pond
Yeah, my wife is a Geordie and I am going to go ahead and say no, you don't. At least not all of you. As far as I could tell when I was there last, half the people in Yorkshire speak some incomprehensible dialect that is anything but "English".
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Posted: 3/2/2015 3:20:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, my wife is a Geordie and I am going to go ahead and say no, you don't. At least not all of you. As far as I could tell when I was there last, half the people in Yorkshire speak some incomprehensible dialect that is anything but "English". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We can't even tell the color of a dress. How the hell will we even have proper English as the excepted standard. We have proper English as the accepted standard. I have no idea what the hell you guys have on that side of the pond Yeah, my wife is a Geordie and I am going to go ahead and say no, you don't. At least not all of you. As far as I could tell when I was there last, half the people in Yorkshire speak some incomprehensible dialect that is anything but "English". Once you get that far north, you stop asking if they're English and start asking if they're human, so they are excluded  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 3:22:01 PM EDT
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One word.....Ebonics.
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