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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:22:18 AM EDT
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The OP was the one that first mentioned an aspect of the political overtones of the show. I brought up another aspect based on my observation and inserted my opinion in the matter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me  , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. There is nothing at all wrong with pushing capitalism. I disagree when it comes to covertly meddling with other people's governments. I'm not talking about sping either. I'm talking full-on regime changes and coups. This is a thread about Star Trek. Take your whiney crap and start a thread about it and stop trying to derail this one. The OP was the one that first mentioned an aspect of the political overtones of the show. I brought up another aspect based on my observation and inserted my opinion in the matter. But you might be missing one of the points of the show... Ponder for a moment the name of the starship they are traveling in.... |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:24:12 AM EDT
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TOS has very valuable life lessons, like never wear a red shirt on an away mission, send your most important and valuable personell on the most dangerous missions, and sleep with every hot alien chick you can, especially if she is blue or green.  LOL.yeah,it wasn't too hard to figure out who was getting killed on the away team after a couple episodes.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:32:27 AM EDT
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:40:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat was a great episode. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:43:09 AM EDT
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How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. Well sure,anyone can nitpick/cherry pick a few things in our lives the gov has control of,but overall we are FREE. Just keep telling yourself that every morning when you get up. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:43:27 AM EDT
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I was low man on the totem pole when it came to watching TV. I was very heavily into SF when it came out. I got to watch about ten minutes of the first episode before my asshole brother changed the channel. I think I got to watch 4 or 5 episodes in total.
The original series is still the best in terms of stories. ST:TNG, especially the ones with Q, had some good story lines. Data was a decent replacement as a Spock type character. The emotionless, confused by emotions character in both series made for a nice counter point to the often wild emotions of the other characters. Worf was probably the most interesting character of all of the ST series. Being the guy with a plan to kill everyone, all the time, and how he managed to override his urge to do so, was always fun to watch. It would have been nice if when he was asked to offer his input if they would have played more off that. "Mr Worf, aside from suggesting we just kill all of them, what are your recommendations?" |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:44:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryBut you might be missing one of the points of the show...
Ponder for a moment the name of the starship they are traveling in.... You may be right. Perhaps at the time of its production, national pride and capitalism/republicanism was in need of outspoken support with an eye towards the future in what we might become. Obviously watching reruns as a kid, I didn't notice that, but seeing now that going "forward" from the optimism of the '60s show has only brought us a much different reality of all out war against capitalism in recent years. Some of the episodes just seemed to lay it on kind of thick for me, but I'm watching it from a different era and mindset than when they were made, so I'm probably being unfair to the show. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:51:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be sweet. How likely is it to happen? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've read that Michael Dorn wants to do a series or movie centering around Worf as captain. That would be kickass. Either Klingons or Vulcans, I don't care, either one would be cool. That would be sweet. How likely is it to happen? Sounds at least somewhat promising. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:52:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh how I long for those days to return... "Mr. Spock, the women on your planet are logical. That’s the only planet in the galaxy that can make that claim.” – Captain Kirk, Star Trek Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I grew up with TOS and Gene Roddenberry was a genius. Sure it's full of campy acting and weirdo '60's costumes but the ideas and plots were decades ahead of their time. That said, I'm a much bigger fan of TNG. But there wouldn't be a TNG without Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scottie, Uhura... Speaking of costumes, I can't believe some of the costumes for the women that they got away with. Last time I saw skirts that short was at a Las Vegas night club.  Skirts that short were the norm back then, even out in public. Oh how I long for those days to return... "Mr. Spock, the women on your planet are logical. That’s the only planet in the galaxy that can make that claim.” – Captain Kirk, Star Trek |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:53:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Skirts that short were the norm back then, even out in public. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I grew up with TOS and Gene Roddenberry was a genius. Sure it's full of campy acting and weirdo '60's costumes but the ideas and plots were decades ahead of their time. That said, I'm a much bigger fan of TNG. But there wouldn't be a TNG without Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scottie, Uhura... Speaking of costumes, I can't believe some of the costumes for the women that they got away with. Last time I saw skirts that short was at a Las Vegas night club. Skirts that short were the norm back then, even out in public. This. I find the current proliferation of black skin tight spandex pants to be an interesting but in many ways less satisfying replacement. Watching a girl in a mini-skirt struggling to walk down the street, while simultaneously avoiding showing off the goods and generally failing miserably was awesome. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:55:36 AM EDT
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How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. We're definitely more socialist now, but I mis-spoke and should've spoken in past tense. Look at the Bay of Pigs incident or covertly uprooting the previous Iran government. Stuff like that. I'm sure there's more examples but that's the kind of stuff that sticks out in my mind. I suppose present day examples could include 4000+ people killed in drone strikes globally, but that's not really projecting a political or economical system per se, it's just a projection of power. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:59:05 AM EDT
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Don't remember that one - which episode; going to have to watch it just for that line!
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I grew up with TOS and Gene Roddenberry was a genius. Sure it's full of campy acting and weirdo '60's costumes but the ideas and plots were decades ahead of their time. That said, I'm a much bigger fan of TNG. But there wouldn't be a TNG without Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scottie, Uhura... Speaking of costumes, I can't believe some of the costumes for the women that they got away with. Last time I saw skirts that short was at a Las Vegas night club.
Skirts that short were the norm back then, even out in public. Oh how I long for those days to return... "Mr. Spock, the women on your planet are logical. That’s the only planet in the galaxy that can make that claim.” – Captain Kirk, Star Trek
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:59:19 AM EDT
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We're definitely more socialist now, but I mis-spoke and should've spoken in past tense. Look at the Bay of Pigs incident or covertly uprooting the previous Iran government. Stuff like that. I'm sure there's more examples but that's the kind of stuff that sticks out in my mind. I suppose present day examples could include 4000+ people killed in drone strikes globally, but that's not really projecting a political or economical system per se, it's just a projection of power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. We're definitely more socialist now, but I mis-spoke and should've spoken in past tense. Look at the Bay of Pigs incident or covertly uprooting the previous Iran government. Stuff like that. I'm sure there's more examples but that's the kind of stuff that sticks out in my mind. I suppose present day examples could include 4000+ people killed in drone strikes globally, but that's not really projecting a political or economical system per se, it's just a projection of power. I have a much bigger issue with the drones than the other things you mentioned. Imagine how much better the lives of Cubans would have been if Bay of Pigs had succeeded. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 10:59:41 AM EDT
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The whole cast had a racial twist.
Think about it ; an oriental driver, Sulu at the helm a cute little Russian on weapons systems, Chekov,cold war and all a smooth talking black woman on communications, Ohura ,civil rights era a not so sober Scottsman in enginering It like they purposely did this to spit in the face stereotypes. I like all the series and movies new and old. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:08:41 AM EDT
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Started watching some of the first season as well. For the life of me I can't remember why I liked this show so much as a youth......
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:09:07 AM EDT
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People like of think of ST:TOS as all special effects, but many many Star Trek sets were nothing more than a table and a chair. Very sparse sets. 
Wonder where this set came from? 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:12:14 AM EDT
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Well sure,anyone can nitpick/cherry pick a few things in our lives the gov has control of,but overall we are FREE. Just keep telling yourself that every morning when you get up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. How does America push capitalism to an unhealthy level? We are more socialist than we are capitalist. The government has their hand in literally everything form the soaps we use to the way we light our houses. From the time we get up in the morning we are under government control. From the light we turn on that uses a government approved switch and light bulb, to the government approved toilet we shit in. We then get in a shower with a government approved shower head and use water heated by a government approved water heater. We then use that government approved shower head to lather up government approved soap. We then dry ourselves using cotton towels that were made using government approved bleaching and dying processes and cotton grown in government approved way. I could go on and point out that in no part of your day do you do anything that the government doesn't have it's invisible hand in. Well sure,anyone can nitpick/cherry pick a few things in our lives the gov has control of,but overall we are FREE. Just keep telling yourself that every morning when you get up. I know you were being sarcastic but I just had to respond. We live under the illusion of freedom. We can walk into a store and buy any number of tens of thousands of products but those products aren't there because we are free. The only reason those products are there isn't because the government doesn't have the legal power to pull them from the shelves but because they choose not to. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:13:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watch the two mirror universe episodes of Enterprise. Great episodes, and with out a fucking doubt the best intro sequence of any Star Trek series. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've thought for a long time that they need to do a 5-year story arc on the Mirror Universe - covering the rise and fall of the Terran Empire. No touchy-feely kumbaya allowed - dark and brooding, in stark contrast to the relative "utopia" of the other ST series. Watch the two mirror universe episodes of Enterprise. Great episodes, and with out a fucking doubt the best intro sequence of any Star Trek series. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep - I enjoy the mirror universe episodes more than any other regularly occurring theme. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:14:33 AM EDT
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Can't tell you how many times I've watched TOS. I grew up with next Gen and DS9 as well. My mom and uncles were huge ST fans and got me into TOS. "the doomsday machine" is my all time favorite ST episode from any series
RIP Mr Nimoy  and thank you
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:18:51 AM EDT
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Droxine was one of my favorite TOS girls.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:28:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole cast had a racial twist. Think about it ; an oriental driver, Sulu at the helm a cute little Russian on weapons systems, Chekov,cold war and all a smooth talking black woman on communications, Ohura ,civil rights era a not so sober Scottsman in enginering It like they purposely did this to spit in the face stereotypes. I like all the series and movies new and old. And Kirk was a "womanizer", and Bones was a "hick" country doctor. IIRC, TOS had the first inter-racial kiss on the networks. Short skirts and go-go boots, and tops that almost weren't there. The half-white, half-black/ half-black, half-white race that annihilated itself because the two colorations were different and hated each other, and each sought to destroy the other until just one of each remained. And they each blamed the other for the destruction of their world and continued the fight. TOS was provocative, and definitely not afraid to put forth some commentary about the social and political climate of the day. I've enjoyed the entire franchise, to one degree or another. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:28:05 AM EDT
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I had only seen maybe 15-20 episodes of TOS, but I had seen all of TNG, DS9 and Voyager. I decided to go back and watch all of TOS. Cheesy compared to modern TV, but several episodes have held up very well. A few fantastic ones, some good ones, some okay, and several crap.
The writing wasn't the best in several of later episodes. They looked like they were made up as they went along, which I believe some were. Literally getting the script pages while on set to shoot. I can understand why it was cancelled when it was. But taken as a whole package, it's a good series well worth watching, and it started a great franchise. The world Gene created is fantastic. One of the best on TV. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:28:19 AM EDT
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What they need to do is put entire episodes and a whole series about the Mirror universe... That would bring back the ratings for Star Trek.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:33:50 AM EDT
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Droxine was one of my favorite TOS girls. http://s3.amazonaws.com/trektv/trektv/ttv_74/trek_tv_74.png Good idea!! we're change the name of the thread to: "The Women of Star Trek" Then we show pics of our favorite Star Trek women...... http://i.imgur.com/J21vwXP.jpg 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:36:04 AM EDT
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"Star Trek" was pro capitalism? GD usually accuses the show of portraying the Federation as a socialist utopia.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:36:19 AM EDT
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The whole cast had a racial twist. Think about it ; an oriental Asian driver, Sulu at the helm a cute little Russian on weapons systems, Chekov,cold war and all a smooth talking black woman on communications, Ohura ,civil rights era a not so sober Scottsman in enginering It like they purposely did this to spit in the face stereotypes. I like all the series and movies new and old. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:37:29 AM EDT
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Droxine was one of my favorite TOS girls. http://s3.amazonaws.com/trektv/trektv/ttv_74/trek_tv_74.png She would be acceptable. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:38:07 AM EDT
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best episode ever: http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/lw2098d.jpg Kirk isn't a scientist and has never been to this planet before. No worries, he can still pull some Macguyver-beating Mr. Wizard shit and mix up some chemicals in the proper proportions... 
After I got Netflix I watched all the Star Trek stuff, except DSN. The newest series with the quantum leap guy and duck lips chick was way better than I expected. 'bout time they put a redneck on a space ship. Seriously though, it was really good! wait you haven't watched DS9? easily the best ST series. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:40:20 AM EDT
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TOS always did have Slamming chicks
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:42:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wait you haven't watched DS9? easily the best ST series. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: [snip] After I got Netflix I watched all the Star Trek stuff, except DSN. The newest series with the quantum leap guy and duck lips chick was way better than I expected. 'bout time they put a redneck on a space ship. Seriously though, it was really good! wait you haven't watched DS9? easily the best ST series. Indeed. First season was a little rough in spots, but it was way better than TNG's rocky start. It only gets better as it goes along. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:48:05 AM EDT
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There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. Face it, all TV shows, all movies, etc, have some agenda to push. Some are rather subtle, and some are bashing you over the head with it. You can either select shows that push propaganda that you agree with, you disagree with, or you can skip watching (my choice by and large, with some notable exceptions). |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 11:58:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Omega Glory was a hell of an episode. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up. There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. There is nothing at all wrong with pushing capitalism. The Omega Glory was a hell of an episode. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:23:29 PM EDT
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. "unhealthy level?" care to explain yourself? |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:27:00 PM EDT
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My fav. In order: TNG VOY DS9 Enterprise TOS I am ready for a new series to come out. Same time frame as TNG/VOY/DS9 but different story line. I like them all. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:29:51 PM EDT
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IIRC, I was in the eighth grade when ST TOS premiered. It was a good show for the time and a giant leap forward from Lost In Space. The US space program was in its glory days and we were on our way to the moon. I think ST was what we hoped the space program would become in the distant future.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:33:08 PM EDT
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"Star Trek" was pro capitalism? GD usually accuses the show of portraying the Federation as a socialist utopia. The first one portrayed business as part of life in the Federation. TNG became the socialist workers' utopia after a while. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:33:14 PM EDT
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This. The worst was the one with the hippies... 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:39:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Started watching some of the first season as well. For the life of me I can't remember why I liked this show so much as a youth...... http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/dhmjr_photos/ST_-_What_Are_Little_Girls_Made_Of.jpg  |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:42:09 PM EDT
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. WTF are you on about? America hasn't seen unfettered capitalism for generations. TNG was far more socialistic than capitalistic. Not sure what you are talking about. 
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:42:30 PM EDT
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. WTF are you on about? America hasn't seen unfettered capitalism for generations. TNG was far more socialistic than capitalistic. Not sure what you are talking about.
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Posted: 3/2/2015 12:51:04 PM EDT
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Otherwise I like the show a lot. My wife saw more of the TNG, so we'll probably start watching those sometime too. The only unhealthy level of capitalism is too little capitalism. The Yangs care nothing for your dislike of American capitalism. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:04:38 PM EDT
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I'm up to the first episode with the Romulans, "Balance of Terror". Despite the cheesiness of the special effects and sets (understandable considering the age of the show)...it's very well written. This episode, especially, is really well written. The Romulans are interesting as fuck and the cold war social commentary is interesting. City on the Edge of Forever and The Menagerie are excellent episodes. I can give you the general plot of all TOS episodes. Kirk gets the girl while saving the Enterprise except for the red shirt guy who dies in the first 5 minutes. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good idea!! we're change the name of the thread to: "The Women of Star Trek" Then we show pics of our favorite Star Trek women...... http://i.imgur.com/J21vwXP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uArs3Zu.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Droxine was one of my favorite TOS girls. http://s3.amazonaws.com/trektv/trektv/ttv_74/trek_tv_74.png Good idea!! we're change the name of the thread to: "The Women of Star Trek" Then we show pics of our favorite Star Trek women...... http://i.imgur.com/J21vwXP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uArs3Zu.jpg Spock and T'Pol are my two favorite characters. I can imagine that portraying a Vulcan isn't exactly easy. You basically have to suppress your emotions, even though all your career you have been told to fully express in various ways. For stage actors, the leap is even greater as they have to really project, ala William Shatner. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:17:39 PM EDT
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It is agreeable to see such a fine lady.
Spock and T'Pol are my two favorite characters. I can imagine that portraying a Vulcan isn't exactly easy. You basically have to suppress your emotions, even though all your career you have been told to fully express in various ways. For stage actors, the leap is even greater as they have to really project, ala William Shatner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Droxine was one of my favorite TOS girls. http://s3.amazonaws.com/trektv/trektv/ttv_74/trek_tv_74.png Good idea!! we're change the name of the thread to: "The Women of Star Trek" Then we show pics of our favorite Star Trek women...... http://i.imgur.com/J21vwXP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uArs3Zu.jpg
Spock and T'Pol are my two favorite characters. I can imagine that portraying a Vulcan isn't exactly easy. You basically have to suppress your emotions, even though all your career you have been told to fully express in various ways. For stage actors, the leap is even greater as they have to really project, ala William Shatner. T'Pol... what a freakin goddess |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:22:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:23:13 PM EDT
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One on the right is the wife of Gene Roddenberry. Majel-Barret. She was also the voice of the computer in every ST series. http://i.imgur.com/fjvIuKf.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Started watching some of the first season as well. For the life of me I can't remember why I liked this show so much as a youth......
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/dhmjr_photos/ST_-_What_Are_Little_Girls_Made_Of.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fjvIuKf.jpg Majel Barrett. The first photo is from the original pilot where she was First Officer. While Roddenberry was writing a future where our prejudices were gone, apparently having a woman as second officer of a ship was a little too much for Desilu studios and the women in the crew were limited to Nurse, Communications Officer (aka switchboard operator), and yeoman (aka executive secretary). They made guest appearances as scientists, vixens, and generalized eye candy, but that was about it. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:25:30 PM EDT
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The first one portrayed business as part of life in the Federation. TNG became the socialist workers' utopia after a while. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Star Trek" was pro capitalism? GD usually accuses the show of portraying the Federation as a socialist utopia. The first one portrayed business as part of life in the Federation. TNG became the socialist workers' utopia after a while. which it was. I'm all for capitalism but once some one makes a replicator and a holodeck(or VR) it will change everything. also all of them but DS9 were military. DS9 went into a little bit of the economics side in that there was still "money" I think they even mentioned they got paid. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:33:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:36:11 PM EDT
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My wife bought me all three seasons, she watched the first two with me , she's not as geeky as I am. I've been showing some hand-picked ones to the kids too. Rewatching all the seasons I didn't remember it being as provocative when I saw them growing up.
There's a couple where they bring in very western ideals, and I almost kind of gagged when they push the capitalism on other cultures in the show. Not that I'm against capitalism, but America does it to an unhealthy level, which also showed through in some of the episodes, drippingly so. Yeah- fucking freedom. Who needs that shit?
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Posted: 3/2/2015 1:37:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a big fan of Enterprise as well, other than TOS it is my favorite. T'Pol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: best episode ever: http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/lw2098d.jpg Kirk isn't a scientist and has never been to this planet before. No worries, he can still pull some Macguyver-beating Mr. Wizard shit and mix up some chemicals in the proper proportions... After I got Netflix I watched all the Star Trek stuff, except DSN. The newest series with the quantum leap guy and duck lips chick was way better than I expected. 'bout time they put a redneck on a space ship. Seriously though, it was really good! I love Enterprise, and it's really too bad it had to go out like it did. |
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