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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:42:59 PM EDT
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Damn. Just came right into his home without a warrant and executed him  Do you know how much choking on Buffalo dip burns? 
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:43:37 PM EDT
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How many guys does it take to subdue one guy. If the cop felt the man was going for his weapon he should have backed up and drawn his weapon. Then let the other guys subdue him. Only if he felt he was or one of his partners was in danger should he have shot the guy. I could not see if the man actually did go for the cops gun, but "going for the cops holstered gun" seems like to easy of an excuse for unjustified shooting. Also the guy at 2:18 looks like a mofo That is all, let the hate begin Pretty fucking hard to just "back up" when someone has a firm grip on your gun/ duty belt.... I'm a weapon retention instructor and your comments indicate someone who has ZERO experience in the subject matter. When someone is going for your gun it is life or death. Period. Shoot them off, cut them off, bite them, whatever. Just don't lose control of your gun. If you do, your odds of being killed with your own gun are about 100% |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:44:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The riots will be starting up again. Al Sharpton is landing at LAX any minute.  |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:46:41 PM EDT
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Dennis Horne, 29, said Africa had been fighting with someone else in his tent when police arrived. When Africa refused to comply with a police order to come out of the tent, officers used the Taser on him and dragged him out, Horne said. The officers tackled Africa to the ground, where he continued to fight, which led to the fatal shooting, according to Horne. "It's sad ,” Horne said. "There's no justification to take somebody's life.” http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-fatally-shoot-homeless-man-20150301-story.html#navtype=outfit Quote HistoryQuoted:
Witnesses at the scene identified the victim by his street name, "Africa”, and gave conflicting accounts of what they saw.
Dennis Horne, 29, said Africa had been fighting with someone else in his tent when police arrived. When Africa refused to comply with a police order to come out of the tent, officers used the Taser on him and dragged him out, Horne said. The officers tackled Africa to the ground, where he continued to fight, which led to the fatal shooting, according to Horne. "It's sad ,” Horne said. "There's no justification to take somebody's life.” http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-fatally-shoot-homeless-man-20150301-story.html#navtype=outfit So..........TIA...........is an appropriate response?
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:46:45 PM EDT
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Al Sharpton is landing at LAX any minute.
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The riots will be starting up again. Al Sharpton is landing at LAX any minute.
Black officer shot him. He'll have to hold back to back press conferences for each of them. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:47:37 PM EDT
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Pretty fucking hard to just "back up" when someone has a firm grip on your gun/ duty belt.... I'm a weapon retention instructor and your comments indicate someone who has ZERO experience in the subject matter. When someone is going for your gun it is life or death. Period. Shoot them off, cut them off, bite them, whatever. Just don't lose control of your gun. If you do, your odds of being killed with your own gun are about 100% Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many guys does it take to subdue one guy. If the cop felt the man was going for his weapon he should have backed up and drawn his weapon. Then let the other guys subdue him. Only if he felt he was or one of his partners was in danger should he have shot the guy. I could not see if the man actually did go for the cops gun, but "going for the cops holstered gun" seems like to easy of an excuse for unjustified shooting. Also the guy at 2:18 looks like a mofo That is all, let the hate begin Pretty fucking hard to just "back up" when someone has a firm grip on your gun/ duty belt.... I'm a weapon retention instructor and your comments indicate someone who has ZERO experience in the subject matter. When someone is going for your gun it is life or death. Period. Shoot them off, cut them off, bite them, whatever. Just don't lose control of your gun. If you do, your odds of being killed with your own gun are about 100% I originally did not realize the man had a grip on the black officers gun... I edited my original post |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:49:16 PM EDT
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AWWWW Los Angeles
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:49:23 PM EDT
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REDRUM
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, what kind of reaction were you expecting? It's a regular day in a 3RD World city in a 3RD World country formerly known as the United States of America. I have to agree with this: Most homeless people are not the heart-of-gold types you see on the TV news. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:51:17 PM EDT
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REDRUM LOL |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:51:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: for those of you without computer speakers: Quote HistoryQuoted: for those of you without computer speakers: bam! bam! bam! MUTHAFUCKA! MUTHAFUCKA! MUTHAFUCKA! MUTHAFUCKA! MUTHAFUCKA! |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:54:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My hearing isn't the best but I am hearing "drop the ____". It sounds like knife to me, but if others are hearing gun I'll defer to that. In hand-to-hand combat, either one will justify deadly force. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:55:27 PM EDT
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WTF????? 
Thank goodness the cops all went home safe. 
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup, very distinctly and it looked like the taser wasn't having any effect. Sorta like with Rodney King, I wonder if he was on PCP too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can hear a Taser clicking right before the shots are fired. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup, very distinctly and it looked like the taser wasn't having any effect. Sorta like with Rodney King, I wonder if he was on PCP too. Pretty shitty when a sweatshirt thats a size too big is an effective measure of armor against a taser. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:58:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or like most homeless wearing multiple layers of clothing. Pretty shitty when a sweatshirt thats a size too big is an effective measure of armor against a taser. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can hear a Taser clicking right before the shots are fired. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup, very distinctly and it looked like the taser wasn't having any effect. Sorta like with Rodney King, I wonder if he was on PCP too. Pretty shitty when a sweatshirt thats a size too big is an effective measure of armor against a taser. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 10:59:50 PM EDT
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Did you and Truth carpool? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obamas fault first and foremost 
Guy was guilty of being homeless should of known he had no rights. Should of not pulled out that Heckler & Koch HK417 with Schmidt & Bender PMII 3-20x50 also he shouldn't have resisted and should of let them beat him within an inch of his life. 
Guilty cops got rights too! Did you and Truth carpool?  OMG my side hurts
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:00:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At 0:17-0:21you can clearly see him get a good hold of the black peace officers gun. Had to put it on full screen but I can see it. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:01:17 PM EDT
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In on 3.
Looks like a pretty clear shot of the suspects hand on the officers weapon. But if it was the same officer that cleared his weapon and did the shooting, it's going to be hard to call that justified. I hope it was a good shoot. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:01:44 PM EDT
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REDRUM Ssabmud |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:02:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OMG my side hurtsQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Obamas fault first and foremost Guy was guilty of being homeless should of known he had no rights. Should of not pulled out that Heckler & Koch HK417 with Schmidt & Bender PMII 3-20x50 also he shouldn't have resisted and should of let them beat him within an inch of his life. Guilty cops got rights too! Did you and Truth carpool? OMG my side hurts I CAN'T BREATHE... Uhh... |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:03:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In on 3. Looks like a pretty clear shot of the suspects hand on the officers weapon. But if it was the same officer that cleared his weapon and did the shooting, it's going to be hard to call that justified. I hope it was a good shoot. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:06:10 PM EDT
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Now I go watch it again... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In on 3. Looks like a pretty clear shot of the suspects hand on the officers weapon. But if it was the same officer that cleared his weapon and did the shooting, it's going to be hard to call that justified. I hope it was a good shoot. I think it was because you can hear later in the video a member of the crowd say that the black man shot him and that he was a traitor was something like that |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In on 3. Looks like a pretty clear shot of the suspects hand on the officers weapon. But if it was the same officer that cleared his weapon and did the shooting, it's going to be hard to call that justified. I hope it was a good shoot. I could be wrong and I usually am. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:06:44 PM EDT
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To protect and serve...
...crowd control at its finest... |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:07:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably too close for the barbs to get a good spread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can hear a Taser clicking right before the shots are fired. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup, very distinctly and it looked like the taser wasn't having any effect. Sorta like with Rodney King, I wonder if he was on PCP too. Pretty shitty when a sweatshirt thats a size too big is an effective measure of armor against a taser. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:08:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look closely and you can see him trying to hit his leg with it contact style. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can hear a Taser clicking right before the shots are fired. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup, very distinctly and it looked like the taser wasn't having any effect. Sorta like with Rodney King, I wonder if he was on PCP too. Pretty shitty when a sweatshirt thats a size too big is an effective measure of armor against a taser. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:09:10 PM EDT
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Ssabmud Quote HistoryQuoted:
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REDRUM Ssabmud ynori |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:09:11 PM EDT
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Regardless of good shoot/bad shoot, I'm sure the homeless guy will vote Democrat in every election for the rest of what would have been his natural life and probably long after. So +1 for Rahm in Chicago |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:10:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gotcha, drive stun. I've been trained on them but I never carry one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yup, very distinctly and it looked like the taser wasn't having any effect. Sorta like with Rodney King, I wonder if he was on PCP too. Pretty shitty when a sweatshirt thats a size too big is an effective measure of armor against a taser. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:11:18 PM EDT
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Do you and the rest of your shill friends ever bring anything worthwhile to this place? I see you and the rest of them in GD, dont ever post in the tech forums, 0 EE feedback and whine to the mods for special treatment. Hmmmm........ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obamas fault first and foremost
Guy was guilty of being homeless should of known he had no rights. Should of not pulled out that Heckler & Koch HK417 with Schmidt & Bender PMII 3-20x50 also he shouldn't have resisted and should of let them beat him within an inch of his life.
Guilty cops got rights too! Did you and Truth carpool? Do you and the rest of your shill friends ever bring anything worthwhile to this place? I see you and the rest of them in GD, dont ever post in the tech forums, 0 EE feedback and whine to the mods for special treatment. Hmmmm........ 
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:11:54 PM EDT
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LOL!
Happy to be of service. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:13:22 PM EDT
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To me it appear another officer shot him. The black officer doesnt seem to have the posture or be facing the correct direction to have opened up on him. I could be wrong and I usually am. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In on 3. Looks like a pretty clear shot of the suspects hand on the officers weapon. But if it was the same officer that cleared his weapon and did the shooting, it's going to be hard to call that justified. I hope it was a good shoot. I could be wrong and I usually am. You may be right but at 2:45 one of the guys in the crowd says the black man killed him, the same one whose gun was grabbed by the homeless man |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:13:47 PM EDT
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black on black crime?
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you and the rest of your shill friends ever bring anything worthwhile to this place? I see you and the rest of them in GD, dont ever post in the tech forums, 0 EE feedback and whine to the mods for special treatment. Hmmmm........ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Obamas fault first and foremost Guy was guilty of being homeless should of known he had no rights. Should of not pulled out that Heckler & Koch HK417 with Schmidt & Bender PMII 3-20x50 also he shouldn't have resisted and should of let them beat him within an inch of his life. Guilty cops got rights too! Did you and Truth carpool? Do you and the rest of your shill friends ever bring anything worthwhile to this place? I see you and the rest of them in GD, dont ever post in the tech forums, 0 EE feedback and whine to the mods for special treatment. Hmmmm........ I'm a friend of Depidy_Dawgs. I've also been contributing in the tech forums for years (mostly handguns), I was making deals in the EE long before there was such a thing as EE feedback, I've been here long enough to remember the Range Report, sgtar15, underwater bumpfiring, and the Arfcom penis, and I've never asked any mod for special treatment. What exactly is YOUR problem, new guy? |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:28:01 PM EDT
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I like that a homeless person had a phone to record all of this
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:30:01 PM EDT
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#bumsupdontshoot
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:30:33 PM EDT
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I like that a homeless person had a phone to record all of this I don't think the people around the scene were all homeless. But odds are in their favor, with it being L.A. and the demographics and the area and this is Arfcom and what not. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:31:01 PM EDT
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RACE WAR!!!  |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:32:30 PM EDT
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Listen close for the loud clicking of the Taser, meaning they tried to tase him but it did not get good contact.
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:35:22 PM EDT
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Dennis Horne, 29, said Africa had been fighting with someone else in his tent when police arrived. When Africa refused to comply with a police order to come out of the tent, officers used the Taser on him and dragged him out, Horne said. The officers tackled Africa to the ground, where he continued to fight, which led to the fatal shooting, according to Horne. "It's sad ,” Horne said. "There's no justification to take somebody's life.” http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-fatally-shoot-homeless-man-20150301-story.html#navtype=outfit Quote HistoryQuoted:
Witnesses at the scene identified the victim by his street name, "Africa”, and gave conflicting accounts of what they saw.
Dennis Horne, 29, said Africa had been fighting with someone else in his tent when police arrived. When Africa refused to comply with a police order to come out of the tent, officers used the Taser on him and dragged him out, Horne said. The officers tackled Africa to the ground, where he continued to fight, which led to the fatal shooting, according to Horne. "It's sad ,” Horne said. "There's no justification to take somebody's life.” http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-fatally-shoot-homeless-man-20150301-story.html#navtype=outfit So? Is this guy the Horne of Africa? |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:36:53 PM EDT
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At 0:17-0:21you can clearly see him get a good hold of the black peace officers gun. I couldn't clearly see anything. I had to re-watch to hear someone say something that sounded like "drop the gun".. I can't say that was a good shoot or a bad one based on that video. First go around watching it it looked like they "executed" him, so I can imagine how the general public will view this. They're not gonna go back and re-watch it listening for that like I did. I doubt it anyway.  It ain't cold and rainy/icy in California.. I fully expect them to do some sorta fergusony shit.
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:37:12 PM EDT
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So? Is this guy the Horne of Africa? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Witnesses at the scene identified the victim by his street name, "Africa”, and gave conflicting accounts of what they saw.
Dennis Horne, 29, said Africa had been fighting with someone else in his tent when police arrived. When Africa refused to comply with a police order to come out of the tent, officers used the Taser on him and dragged him out, Horne said. The officers tackled Africa to the ground, where he continued to fight, which led to the fatal shooting, according to Horne. "It's sad ,” Horne said. "There's no justification to take somebody's life.” http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-fatally-shoot-homeless-man-20150301-story.html#navtype=outfit So? Is this guy the Horne of Africa? I think he is the Corpse of Africa |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:38:35 PM EDT
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Well, if he was going for the cops gun, the cops had to get it on. Agreed. You try to take a cop's gun (or a CCW'er's gun); you deserve bullets in the ass. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:39:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look I learned a new phrase today! He was probably attempting stapling with the taser. When the close distance means that probe spread will be poor, the taser user and shoot the probes and then "drive stun" with the active taser. When the taser touches another part of the body, the taser unit acts as another probe and increases the spread, thereby affecting more muscular structures. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:40:07 PM EDT
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I couldn't clearly see anything. I had to re-watch to hear someone say something that sounded like "drop the gun".. I can't say that was a good shoot or a bad one based on that video. First go around watching it it looked like they "executed" him, so I can imagine how the general public will view this. They're not gonna go back and re-watch it listening for that like I did. I doubt it anyway. It ain't cold and rainy/icy in California.. I fully expect them to do some sorta fergusony shit.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At 0:17-0:21you can clearly see him get a good hold of the black peace officers gun. I couldn't clearly see anything. I had to re-watch to hear someone say something that sounded like "drop the gun".. I can't say that was a good shoot or a bad one based on that video. First go around watching it it looked like they "executed" him, so I can imagine how the general public will view this. They're not gonna go back and re-watch it listening for that like I did. I doubt it anyway. It ain't cold and rainy/icy in California.. I fully expect them to do some sorta fergusony shit.If you cannot see him reach up and grab the cops gun you need those eyes checked. The cop immediately reaches down and "traps" the guys hand, just like every cop in the country is taught to do if someone grabs your gun |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:40:47 PM EDT
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How about the kid that snatched up the night stick, was he trying to get in on the action or what? Looked like cuffs for him.
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:44:08 PM EDT
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How about the kid that snatched up the night stick, was he trying to get in on the action or what? Looked like cuffs for him. That's a girl. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:45:07 PM EDT
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At 0:17-0:21you can clearly see him get a good hold of the black peace officers gun. A black cop (haven't looked at the video yet, eating a Ma Danby special with enchilada sauce.) Boy (pardon the expression) won't that conflict Eric Holder? What color was the dead guy under the grime? |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:45:31 PM EDT
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If you cannot see him reach up and grab the cops gun you need those eyes checked. The cop immediately reaches down and "traps" the guys hand, just like every cop in the country is taught to do if someone grabs your gun Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At 0:17-0:21you can clearly see him get a good hold of the black peace officers gun. I couldn't clearly see anything. I had to re-watch to hear someone say something that sounded like "drop the gun".. I can't say that was a good shoot or a bad one based on that video. First go around watching it it looked like they "executed" him, so I can imagine how the general public will view this. They're not gonna go back and re-watch it listening for that like I did. I doubt it anyway. It ain't cold and rainy/icy in California.. I fully expect them to do some sorta fergusony shit.If you cannot see him reach up and grab the cops gun you need those eyes checked. The cop immediately reaches down and "traps" the guys hand, just like every cop in the country is taught to do if someone grabs your gun Freeze at 00:16 and you can clearly see him about to rip the gun out. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:48:47 PM EDT
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Do you know how much choking on Buffalo dip burns? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn. Just came right into his home without a warrant and executed him Do you know how much choking on Buffalo dip burns?
i'm only laughing because in my quick glance I read "dip" as "dick"
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