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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:51:43 AM EDT
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Is that a Hi-point with a nickel slide- GUILTY.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:52:19 AM EDT
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Did they go after him for being a good guy or for playing stupid games?
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:53:10 AM EDT
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They went after him because "freedom isn't free".
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:55:21 AM EDT
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It's a tax thing. That said, if there is a tax on cigs and a tax on alcohol - how long before the per joint tax on weed?
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:58:13 AM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:59:12 AM EDT
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It's a tax thing. That said, if there is a tax on cigs and a tax on alcohol - how long before the per joint tax on weed? Isn't weed in Colorado being taxed now that it's legal ? |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:59:47 AM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. He sure did. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:03:04 AM EDT
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They went after him because "freedom isn't free". This. People that don't understand that, is why I have no hope for this country.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:04:07 AM EDT
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From the pictures, it looks like he was a guy who liked to hunt and liked his shine. Nothing wrong with either, but let's be honest, the .gov didn't go after him because the .gov hates freedom, or hates good guys, they went after him because he was manufacturing and selling alchohol without licenses and without paying taxes.
Frankly, I find it outrageous there is a separate charge because he was selling moonshine while in possession of a legal firearm. And I don't think the penalty for avoiding some alcohol taxes should be felony. I'd also be willing to say maybe even making some moonshine and selling it shouldn't even be a crime. But no matter how nice a guy, he had to know what he was doing was currently illegal and that there was a government agency who basically owes their existence to arresting people for what he was doing. There's the old saying about what happens when you play stupid games... |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:05:29 AM EDT
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How did I not hear about this on the news, that website is for my local news...
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:07:34 AM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. That's a pretty statist ass thing to say. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:08:08 AM EDT
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Prohibition is still on?
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:09:19 AM EDT
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I may or may not have some experience in this area and i can tell you as mentioned in the article they had got a tip from somebody he was selling, and if your the producer you dont sell yourself. He took a risk got the rewards for awhile but also payed the price, just the way it is even though this should be legal.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:09:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the pictures, it looks like he was a guy who liked to hunt and liked his shine. Nothing wrong with either, but let's be honest, the .gov didn't go after him because the .gov hates freedom, or hates good guys, they went after him because he was manufacturing and selling alchohol without licenses and without paying taxes. Frankly, I find it outrageous there is a separate charge because he was selling moonshine while in possession of a legal firearm. And I don't think the penalty for avoiding some alcohol taxes should be felony. I'd also be willing to say maybe even making some moonshine and selling it shouldn't even be a crime. But no matter how nice a guy, he had to know what he was doing was currently illegal and that there was a government agency who basically owes their existence to arresting people for what he was doing. There's the old saying about what happens when you play stupid games... And above all don't forget to give the king his cut... |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:11:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:11:07 AM EDT
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Im suddenly parched.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:12:04 AM EDT
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He ran afoul the revenue agents.
6 felonies, 2 class 1 misdemeanors and out on an almost irrelevant $1,000 bond. All because he didn't pay the taxes and apply for the correct licenses. I am sure glad we have this hardened criminal off the street. Oh wait, he's already back on the street. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:12:10 AM EDT
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Did they go after him for being a good guy or for playing stupid games? For being a good guy, duh 
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:12:26 AM EDT
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Prohibition is still on? How can they piss your money away if the dont steal it first? |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:13:26 AM EDT
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From the pictures, it looks like he was a guy who liked to hunt and liked his shine. Nothing wrong with either, but let's be honest, the .gov didn't go after him because the .gov hates freedom, or hates good guys, they went after him because he was manufacturing and selling alchohol without licenses and without paying taxes. Frankly, I find it outrageous there is a separate charge because he was selling moonshine while in possession of a legal firearm. And I don't think the penalty for avoiding some alcohol taxes should be felony. I'd also be willing to say maybe even making some moonshine and selling it shouldn't even be a crime. But no matter how nice a guy, he had to know what he was doing was currently illegal and that there was a government agency who basically owes their existence to arresting people for what he was doing. There's the old saying about what happens when you play stupid games... I agree with you. I'm not necessarily defending him on the charge. He knows it's illegal as do I. Do I believe it should be illegal ? No. But it's not my decision. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:13:29 AM EDT
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He sure did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. He sure did. Well then good guy is either a special snowflake, or not such a good guy. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:13:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He ran afoul the revenue agents. 6 felonies, 2 class 1 misdemeanors and out on an almost irrelevant $1,000 bond. All because he didn't pay the taxes and apply for the correct licenses. I am sure glad we have this hardened criminal off the street. Oh wait, he's already back on the street. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:14:17 AM EDT
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There shouldn't be licensing and regulations around distilling, let the free market handle it. When people start going blind, others will know not to purchase from distiller X and the market will adjust, eventually.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:15:11 AM EDT
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My favorite comment "I watch moonshiners and none of those guys are armed to the teeth."
Yes, reality TV watching qualifies you as educated on the topic. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:15:37 AM EDT
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From the pictures, it looks like he was a guy who liked to hunt and liked his shine. Nothing wrong with either, but let's be honest, the .gov didn't go after him because the .gov hates freedom, or hates good guys, they went after him because he was manufacturing and selling alchohol without licenses and without paying taxes. Frankly, I find it outrageous there is a separate charge because he was selling moonshine while in possession of a legal firearm. And I don't think the penalty for avoiding some alcohol taxes should be felony. I'd also be willing to say maybe even making some moonshine and selling it shouldn't even be a crime. But no matter how nice a guy, he had to know what he was doing was currently illegal and that there was a government agency who basically owes their existence to arresting people for what he was doing. There's the old saying about what happens when you play stupid games... Laugh out fucking loud. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:15:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they go after him for being a good guy or for playing stupid games? |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:17:31 AM EDT
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My favorite comment "I watch moonshiners and none of those guys are armed to the teeth." Yes, reality TV watching qualifies you as educated on the topic. Wtf bro? Dont you know this is GD where EVERYONE is an expert? Im gonna report you for not being an expert. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:18:03 AM EDT
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There shouldn't be licensing and regulations around distilling, let the free market handle it. When people start going blind, others will know not to purchase from distiller X and the market will adjust, eventually. You're right. Only people who hire lawyers should be able to distill liquor. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:18:35 AM EDT
[#29]
Thank God they caught him before any innocent people ended up drunk.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:18:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Revenuer's gonna Revenue.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:21:05 AM EDT
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My favorite comment "I watch moonshiners and none of those guys are armed to the teeth." Yes, reality TV watching qualifies you as educated on the topic. The ABC agents are most likely feeling a lot of heat from their overlords for arrests because of that show. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:22:55 AM EDT
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That. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did they go after him for being a good guy or for playing stupid games? I guess our opinions differ but why would they go after him for illegal activity and with a firearm? Its obvious you dont know how good this guy is so before you comment i suggest you get informed on how good he is and then you will know they went after him gor being good. The other charges were just a byproduct for the "being a good guy" arrest. Next time you reply think about your reply before you post because good guys dont play stupid games, stupid games play the good guys  .
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:23:53 AM EDT
[#33]
In before the freedom haters!
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:24:27 AM EDT
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My favorite comment "I watch moonshiners and none of those guys are armed to the teeth." Yes, reality TV watching qualifies you as educated on the topic. He must have missed a few episodes. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:24:42 AM EDT
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funny to see all this support for "that thar good ol' boy makin' shine" but if it's mj the tone changes to "baaa baaa evil potheads"
good ol' boy probably smokes mj too lol |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:25:19 AM EDT
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Later when they come for everyone's guns he won't have any left to use.
Never leave your 60 plus collection in one basket. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:25:43 AM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. my Grandfather used to sell it to friends, give it to family. He is a good guy, did his part and killed Nazis. I would take his word of ANY law enforcement officer. Freedom isn't free, but we don't have it anymore anyways
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:25:43 AM EDT
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A "good guy" doesn't manufacture illegal liquor and sell it to the public without a license, sorry. So I guess a "good guy" wouldn't shoulder a Sig Brace, put a vertical grip on a pistol, or fail to pay taxes on the profit made on neckbearding guns or ammo either, huh? Just because its not legal does not make it immoral. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:27:03 AM EDT
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I wonder if there is a discrepancy between the number of jars of moonshine seized at the scene and the number booked into custody of the evidence room.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:27:14 AM EDT
[#40]
Just'a good old boys, never meanin' no harm....
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:28:52 AM EDT
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The very idea of a non-violent felony is completely bizarre to me.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:30:43 AM EDT
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Selling illegal alcohol while carrying a weapon ? So he was carrying all them weapons at once ?
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:31:21 AM EDT
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With all those dangerous guns a fella like that probably has armor piercing ammo in his stash.....
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:31:21 AM EDT
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Just'a good old boys, never meanin' no harm.... 
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:32:36 AM EDT
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The very idea of a non-violent felony is completely bizarre to me. Indeed. If they really want the money that much, take the guy's booze and auction it. The government terror campaign against free enterprise has got to stop. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:33:33 AM EDT
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Virginia ABC shouldn't even be a thing. Those people are spectacular combination of anachronism and bumbling idiocy.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:33:38 AM EDT
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Yall need to focus on preventing these things from becoming illegal, instead of just ignoring the law and doing it anyway after it's been made illegal.
if you break the law, knowingly, you should be prosecuted. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:34:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prohibition is still on? And to my knowledge, you cannot distill anything without a lisense. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:34:56 AM EDT
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Yall need to focus on preventing these things from becoming illegal, instead of just ignoring the law and doing it anyway after it's been made illegal. if you break the law, knowingly, you should be prosecuted. Statist! Herp! Derp! |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:35:30 AM EDT
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The very idea of a non-violent felony is completely bizarre to me. I can think of a few. Kiddie porn, burglary or major larceny, for example. Or how about treason - if I copy and sell nuclear weapon plans to Iran, I haven't personally committed any violent act, right? |
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