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Posted: 3/18/2015 5:59:54 PM EDT
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer.
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Posted: 3/18/2015 6:06:11 PM EDT
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com Quote HistoryQuoted:
Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com Damn. Well, Obamacare likely has a crack team of specialists swarming him right now. "... that left a 57-year-old Indian citizen partially paralyzed and in need of spinal surgery." |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 6:09:08 PM EDT
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com Well, if he wasn't in custody, he didn't need a Miranda warning. I'm guessing he probably knew this too. Defense motion #1 will be to suppress the video as too prejudicial. ETA jebus my spelling is bad today. 
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Posted: 3/18/2015 6:20:49 PM EDT
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com I wonder how IA questioned him. My state has laws on how police suspects are interrogated. Any Alabama guys know if there is a LEOBOR? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 6:45:35 PM EDT
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com I have never heard of moving a court date up before unless the defendant requested it. That is bullshit. I would like more information on the Miranda issue. |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 6:50:28 PM EDT
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I wonder how IA questioned him. My state has laws on how police suspects are interrogated. Any Alabama guys know if there is a LEOBOR? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com I wonder how IA questioned him. My state has laws on how police suspects are interrogated. Any Alabama guys know if there is a LEOBOR? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No we do not. Which is why if you are not a PBA member you are often fucked. CID and IAB are suppose to be two different areas but sometimes they are not. |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 6:53:24 PM EDT
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I would think Parker wants the trial delayed as long as possible. The entire incident is still a hot topic around here.
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Posted: 3/18/2015 7:09:48 PM EDT
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I would think Parker wants the trial delayed as long as possible. The entire incident is still a hot topic around here. Delayed? Hell they moved the court date up. I had cases in county court delayed for two years on simple things like run a stop sign and DUI. |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 7:13:40 PM EDT
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Delayed? Hell they moved the court date up. I had cases in county court delayed for two years on simple things like run a stop sign and DUI. The prosecutor moved the case up, Parker's lawyer is trying to get more time. |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 7:33:02 PM EDT
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The prosecutor moved the case up, Parker's lawyer is trying to get more time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delayed? Hell they moved the court date up. I had cases in county court delayed for two years on simple things like run a stop sign and DUI. The prosecutor moved the case up, Parker's lawyer is trying to get more time. Which is bullshit. Show up on original court date and request a new date. Him moving the date up from originally set is wrong. |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 9:26:34 PM EDT
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Which is bullshit. Show up on original court date and request a new date. Him moving the date up from originally set is wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delayed? Hell they moved the court date up. I had cases in county court delayed for two years on simple things like run a stop sign and DUI. The prosecutor moved the case up, Parker's lawyer is trying to get more time. Which is bullshit. Show up on original court date and request a new date. Him moving the date up from originally set is wrong. Could there be pressure from above? Considering it may be an international incident? |
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Posted: 3/18/2015 10:12:39 PM EDT
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Could there be pressure from above? Considering it may be an international incident? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Which is bullshit. Show up on original court date and request a new date. Him moving the date up from originally set is wrong. Could there be pressure from above? Considering it may be an international incident? Makes me wonder if they are doing an intentional fuckup because they know they don't have a case. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 9:00:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2015 9:07:09 AM EDT
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I wonder how IA questioned him. My state has laws on how police suspects are interrogated. Any Alabama guys know if there is a LEOBOR? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trial moved up to April 15th. Also, Parker claims he was not mirandized or given access to a lawyer. al.com I wonder how IA questioned him. My state has laws on how police suspects are interrogated. Any Alabama guys know if there is a LEOBOR? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Without doing a piledriver I expect. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 9:08:07 AM EDT
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Makes me wonder if they are doing an intentional fuckup because they know they don't have a case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Which is bullshit. Show up on original court date and request a new date. Him moving the date up from originally set is wrong. Could there be pressure from above? Considering it may be an international incident? Makes me wonder if they are doing an intentional fuckup because they know they don't have a case. They shouldn't fuck with the date. Just lose on a preliminary issue. It would be far easier. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 9:19:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat took the wind out of him. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 9:54:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYep. You're right. Thats 100% exactamundo identical to what happened in AL. 
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Posted: 3/19/2015 10:59:18 AM EDT
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lol
I've come to actually like Justice23 posts. They're a caricature. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 11:45:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYoung, engaged is aggressive behavior, first contact with ground was shoulders. Totally the same thing. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 11:49:30 AM EDT
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Young, engaged is aggressive behavior, first contact with ground was shoulders. Totally the same thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Young, engaged is aggressive behavior, first contact with ground was shoulders. Totally the same thing. It's a different kind of war, bro. Everyone is a sleeper Al-Kayder turrist until proven otherwise. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:31:33 PM EDT
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Parker has been indicted on federal civil rights charges: Link
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:41:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySince he's been fired from the Madison PD, who will have to pay for Parker's defense attorney? |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:41:08 PM EDT
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There was some confusion last week concerning the trial date for Eric Parker, as his attorney moved for a postponement that was not needed. The trial remains set for April 29.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/judge_in_madison_police_assaul.html#incart_story_package |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:42:05 PM EDT
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Since he's been fired from the Madison PD, who will have to pay for Parker's defense attorney? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Since he's been fired from the Madison PD, who will have to pay for Parker's defense attorney? He has his own attorney. Any cop who would depend on .gov supplied attorney is a fool. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:45:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He has his own attorney. Any cop who would depend on .gov supplied attorney is a fool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Since he's been fired from the Madison PD, who will have to pay for Parker's defense attorney? He has his own attorney. Any cop who would depend on .gov supplied attorney is a fool. Good, glad he has to pay for it (well him and his pathetic go fundme site) and I'm super glad I'm not paying for it! |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:59:03 PM EDT
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I am not going back thru all the pages, is there a place to donate to the innocent victim? Is he getting free legal support or can we donate?
Does anyone know if this former LEO is looking at a lengthy prison sentence? |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 1:59:44 PM EDT
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I am not going back thru all the pages, is there a place to donate to the innocent victim? Is he getting free legal support or can we donate? Does anyone know if this former LEO is looking at a lengthy prison sentence? Cop faces a maximum sentence of 10 years on the federal charge. Sounds like one year on the state charge. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 2:07:39 PM EDT
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Unfortunately if there is one thing I have learned on this site, it's that this is true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Blue Wall goes up in 3...2...1 Unfortunately if there is one thing I have learned on this site, it's that this is true. This. And when you hit the blue wall on this site it hurts |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 2:08:56 PM EDT
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I still think nothing will come of it.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:42:03 PM EDT
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I still think nothing will come of it. Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 11:37:19 PM EDT
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Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still think nothing will come of it. Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. 
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Posted: 3/28/2015 1:03:42 AM EDT
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All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court.  https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
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I still think nothing will come of it. Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
So was O.J. 
Are cops beating an unconscious man your role models or was it just to show that our legal system fails sometimes?
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Posted: 3/28/2015 1:08:19 AM EDT
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He has his own attorney. Any cop who would depend on .gov supplied attorney is a fool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since he's been fired from the Madison PD, who will have to pay for Parker's defense attorney? He has his own attorney. Any cop who would depend on .gov supplied attorney is a fool. His own attorney doesn't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer, the guy (Robert Tuten) is quoted in the article as saying Tuten said he was also "a little bit surprised" that Parker was being charged by both the U.S. Department of Justice while also facing a state charge of third degree assault. "He feels like he's being whaled on from all sides," said Tuten. Really, Counselor? That is your choice of words to describe the emotional state of your client? Words that actually bring to mind the violence your client visited upon a frail old man and make your audience think "Good, maybe that asshole needs to feel like he's getting 'whaled on' and see how he likes it!" Makes me wonder who actually is paying him, since he seems to be almost subliminally harming Parker's case. I'd sure hate to have that lawyer on my side. 
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Posted: 3/28/2015 2:42:11 AM EDT
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All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
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I still think nothing will come of it. Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
Role models of yours? |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 2:42:34 AM EDT
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The officers admit they understand he doesn't speak English: "awww, he don't speak a lick o' English!"
Yet they keep giving him commands in English and fail trying anything else like gestures. That should help you understand that all these 'commands' they give are basically just patter for the sake of their dashcam and audio. It's just there to make them look better so they can say they went through the motions and look good to supervisors and possibly juries. It's like a magician's patter: it's just meant to distract you. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 2:55:19 AM EDT
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"What is the problem, Mr. Parker??" |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 7:47:50 AM EDT
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All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
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I still think nothing will come of it. Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
Doesn't need to be convicted. He'll mortgage his house to pay the lawyers. So will his parents. His wife will start to resent him. Oops. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:09:40 AM EDT
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I had an engineering professor named Patel. Nobody could understand anything he said. At one point, we tried writing a Patel-to-English dictionary. Ex: "Pleebedeeded" = Please be seated Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Odd reading a story with a "Patel" that didn't involve fraud, or medical malpractice. 
A doctor named Patel saved my son's life when the white guys gave up. I had an engineering professor named Patel. Nobody could understand anything he said. At one point, we tried writing a Patel-to-English dictionary. Ex: "Pleebedeeded" = Please be seated Patel is one of the most common Indian names.... kinda like Smith |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:21:12 AM EDT
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So was O.J.
Are cops beating an unconscious man your role models or was it just to show that our legal system fails sometimes?
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All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
So was O.J.
Are cops beating an unconscious man your role models or was it just to show that our legal system fails sometimes?
Just pointing out that what you believe and court outcomes can be very different. From what I have seen the US Attorneys office in AL have a habit of charging officers and not winning their cases. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:23:02 AM EDT
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His own attorney doesn't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer, the guy (Robert Tuten) is quoted in the article as saying Really, Counselor? That is your choice of words to describe the emotional state of your client? Words that actually bring to mind the violence your client visited upon a frail old man and make your audience think "Good, maybe that asshole needs to feel like he's getting 'whaled on' and see how he likes it!" Makes me wonder who actually is paying him, since he seems to be almost subliminally harming Parker's case. I'd sure hate to have that lawyer on my side.
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Since he's been fired from the Madison PD, who will have to pay for Parker's defense attorney? He has his own attorney. Any cop who would depend on .gov supplied attorney is a fool. His own attorney doesn't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer, the guy (Robert Tuten) is quoted in the article as saying Tuten said he was also "a little bit surprised" that Parker was being charged by both the U.S. Department of Justice while also facing a state charge of third degree assault. "He feels like he's being whaled on from all sides," said Tuten. Really, Counselor? That is your choice of words to describe the emotional state of your client? Words that actually bring to mind the violence your client visited upon a frail old man and make your audience think "Good, maybe that asshole needs to feel like he's getting 'whaled on' and see how he likes it!" Makes me wonder who actually is paying him, since he seems to be almost subliminally harming Parker's case. I'd sure hate to have that lawyer on my side.
It is very unusual for the DoJ to charge an officer with an on going state case. Off the top of my head I don't recall them doing that before. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:24:30 AM EDT
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Doesn't need to be convicted. He'll mortgage his house to pay the lawyers. So will his parents. His wife will start to resent him. Oops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
Doesn't need to be convicted. He'll mortgage his house to pay the lawyers. So will his parents. His wife will start to resent him. Oops. No he won't. 
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Posted: 3/28/2015 9:27:12 AM EDT
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I still think nothing will come of it. Oh, he will be convicted, and rightfully so. All of the cops in this video were found not guilty in federal court. https://youtu.be/SzpFheEY6ss
Role models of yours?
Bama is one of the fairest cops here,imo. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 10:02:32 AM EDT
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It is very unusual for the DoJ to charge an officer with an on going state case. Off the top of my head I don't recall them doing that before. It's also unusual to have the DOJ pressured by the State Dept. They are bending over backwards since there is an international eye on this incident. Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 10:11:25 AM EDT
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It's also unusual to have the DOJ pressured by the State Dept. They are bending over backwards since there is an international eye on this incident. Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is very unusual for the DoJ to charge an officer with an on going state case. Off the top of my head I don't recall them doing that before. It's also unusual to have the DOJ pressured by the State Dept. They are bending over backwards since there is an international eye on this incident. Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. Oops? 
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Posted: 3/28/2015 11:16:13 AM EDT
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Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. I agree-they will find he followed procedure/training. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 1:13:22 PM EDT
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I agree-they will find he followed procedure/training. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. I agree-they will find he followed procedure/training. If the procedure/training is that far off, and that bad, that's going to be catastrophic in the civil suit. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 3:31:33 PM EDT
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If the procedure/training is that far off, and that bad, that's going to be catastrophic in the civil suit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. I agree-they will find he followed procedure/training. If the procedure/training is that far off, and that bad, that's going to be catastrophic in the civil suit. It was shown in this thread that that is a trained takedown in quite a few areas. I don't see how he'll get convicted of a move they are trained to do.If the guy weighed 190lbs there probably wouldn't have been an injury. I'm not a cop and not defending what happened,just pointing out what I have learned from the cops on this board.I don't think the sweep was necessary either. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 3:44:31 PM EDT
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It was shown in this thread that that is a trained takedown in quite a few areas. I don't see how he'll get convicted of a move they are trained to do.If the guy weighed 190lbs there probably wouldn't have been an injury. I'm not a cop and not defending what happened,just pointing out what I have learned from the cops on this board.I don't think the sweep was necessary either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not guilty in both courts is my prediction. I agree-they will find he followed procedure/training. If the procedure/training is that far off, and that bad, that's going to be catastrophic in the civil suit. It was shown in this thread that that is a trained takedown in quite a few areas. I don't see how he'll get convicted of a move they are trained to do.If the guy weighed 190lbs there probably wouldn't have been an injury. I'm not a cop and not defending what happened,just pointing out what I have learned from the cops on this board.I don't think the sweep was necessary either. They are trained to be be proficient with handguns. Would it have been okay to shoot him because they were trained? |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 4:30:35 PM EDT
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It was shown in this thread that that is a trained takedown in quite a few areas. I don't see how he'll get convicted of a move they are trained to do.If the guy weighed 190lbs there probably wouldn't have been an injury. I'm not a cop and not defending what happened,just pointing out what I have learned from the cops on this board.I don't think the sweep was necessary either. If a move is useful on 190 pound people but catastrophic on 140 pound people then it shouldn't be used on 140 pound people. I also find the idea of taking training one time and calling ones self proficient on the task forever to be incredibly disturbing. |
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