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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:57:43 PM EDT
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Would you agree or disagree with this comparison? Many of you know I have given up on the Glocks and found a gun that works for me. I don't worry about how to tweak it to my needs. I found a gun that "just works".  The only tweak to my G19 was some tritium sites. I has been very reliable for me, I have about 1k rounds thru it. Even with the sites, installed, it was still cheaper than an HK and every holster maker makes one for the G19.
I have an I-phone for work. It replaced my Blackberry. The Blackberry "just worked". The I-phone, not so much. A better comparison between Apple and HK is their fan boys over rate them and over pay for them. 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:57:51 PM EDT
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I got rid of my HK P2000 because it was tied to a very negative incident involving a dog that I didn't want to be reminded of constantly. Nowadays I have a G19 and G26. Can't say I like the Glocks better than the HK. The P2000 LEM is the one pistol I regret selling. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:01:33 PM EDT
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Mac guys pay more in premium and would say that it is worth the extra money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think HK's are worth the money that they demand. Because guns can't get viruses.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Quote HistoryYeah wonder if that dude is OK. LOL! |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:04:09 PM EDT
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Are Hk's winning any major pistol matches or competitions? When did comp gun ever equal SD gun? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:05:48 PM EDT
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I like these threads. Every new striker fired pistol gets one and then the OP usually switches back to Glock after the shine wears off.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:07:42 PM EDT
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If you want to use a firearm analogy to describe " home built PCs", then they can run the gamut of hi point to SVI infinity. Macs fall somewhere in between.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:09:12 PM EDT
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Worst FTF I ever had was in a USP. Had to smash the slide against a table to get the live round out. Wouldn't open, wouldn't fire. I've had FTEs with Glocks but never anything like the HK jam. Nothing "just works" forever if you shoot it enough and the answer to "best pistol" between Sig, Glock, HK, Springfield, etc major brands is "the one that you shoot best." But fanboys gonna fan.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:14:22 PM EDT
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I like my HKs but i disagree with the PC/Apple comparison.
I think a reliable mass produced product versus a luxury line of the product would be more to my liking... ie Toyota (Glock) vs Lexus (Hk). The toyota Camry and the Lexus ES300 are a good comparison. Both are reliable cars but you will pay more for the ES for the name & aesthetics. My .02 YMMV |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:16:16 PM EDT
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Really about the only thing that warrants any comparison is the level of fanboyism with both Apple and HK.
Ever been to an Apple store? It's full of a bunch of people who can't work their shit and had to bring it in, yet they still clamor on, almost religiously, about how Apple is the end-all, be-all. Honestly seeing those people reminded me of those people who always have to ask you about "hearing the good news" with that starstruck zealous over happy face. HK fanboys are no different. I'm guessing it's due to the amount of investment that both companies require before you become an owner of either. Naturally if certain types people spend a shit-ton of money on a gun (or computer), they feel a need to validate their decision and go around telling others about how awesome they are. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:18:14 PM EDT
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Would you agree or disagree with this comparison? Many of you know I have given up on the Glocks and found a gun that works for me. I don't worry about how to tweak it to my needs. I found a gun that "just works". No, I hate Apple products & build my own PCs. Apple doesn't "just work" anymore than anything else does. Apple users tend to not be demanding of performance. They are also annoying as hell. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:20:21 PM EDT
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Every Glock I've ever picked up did 2 things right from the box. 1) Fired every round I fed it 2) Hit the target I shot at. Since those are the 2 functions a firearm is required to complete in order to be viable...... I'm the HK guy and have had the same experience with HK. The 2 main things I don't like about Glocks is the unsupported .40 ramp and the fact you have to pull the trigger to take it down. I would not ever knock them for reliability though, I know lots of folks that carry them and they seem to be very reliable. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:22:34 PM EDT
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I like me some HKs, but in what world do Glocks not "just work right out of the box"?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:24:06 PM EDT
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Are you high? You can't home build a Glock.
A 1911 can be home built. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:25:43 PM EDT
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That's probably the worst analogy I've seen in a while. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:25:48 PM EDT
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My G-22 has never malfunctioned, works great for me. I did add a 3lb trigger kit, but I massage all my triggers.
I disagree, My Glock just works |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:26:26 PM EDT
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Yeah wonder if that dude is OK. LOL! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yeah wonder if that dude is OK. LOL! He's alive. If you want to call it that. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:26:46 PM EDT
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Glocks are more like dell
1911 would be more like a home built computer can be great or a unreliable pos, depending on the build dells are good for porn |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:26:56 PM EDT
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I want one of those magical guns that hits every target I shoot at 
This reminds me of elementary school where I wished for a magic pen that would do my homework for me. Never got it  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every Glock I've ever picked up did 2 things right from the box. 1) Fired every round I fed it 2) Hit the target I shot at. Since those are the 2 functions a firearm is required to complete in order to be viable...... I want one of those magical guns that hits every target I shoot at
This reminds me of elementary school where I wished for a magic pen that would do my homework for me. Never got it They will pretty much hit what their sites are aimed at within reason. The problem is the aiming part. This applies to both HK and Glock and pretty much every other pistol. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:27:14 PM EDT
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Macs are for hipsters and wanna be DJs.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:29:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:30:42 PM EDT
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I'm the HK guy and have had the same experience with HK. The 2 main things I don't like about Glocks is the unsupported .40 ramp and the fact you have to pull the trigger to take it down. I would not ever knock them for reliability though, I know lots of folks that carry them and they seem to be very reliable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every Glock I've ever picked up did 2 things right from the box. 1) Fired every round I fed it 2) Hit the target I shot at. Since those are the 2 functions a firearm is required to complete in order to be viable...... I'm the HK guy and have had the same experience with HK. The 2 main things I don't like about Glocks is the unsupported .40 ramp and the fact you have to pull the trigger to take it down. I would not ever knock them for reliability though, I know lots of folks that carry them and they seem to be very reliable. What's wrong with pulling the trigger to take it down? You should be making sure it's clear anyways, so that shouldn't be an issue. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:30:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:31:27 PM EDT
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I'm the HK guy and have had the same experience with HK. The 2 main things I don't like about Glocks is the unsupported .40 ramp and the fact you have to pull the trigger to take it down. I would not ever knock them for reliability though, I know lots of folks that carry them and they seem to be very reliable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every Glock I've ever picked up did 2 things right from the box. 1) Fired every round I fed it 2) Hit the target I shot at. Since those are the 2 functions a firearm is required to complete in order to be viable...... I'm the HK guy and have had the same experience with HK. The 2 main things I don't like about Glocks is the unsupported .40 ramp and the fact you have to pull the trigger to take it down. I would not ever knock them for reliability though, I know lots of folks that carry them and they seem to be very reliable. I've had similar experiences with HK (WRT reliability). I stick to the 9mm Glocks. If it works for you, great. I don't like .40 anyhow, but I'll give you that the .40 Glocks have a worse reputation than the rest of the line. The pulling the trigger isn't a thing for me. I remove the mag and check the chamber several times. If I trust that method to clear a weapon in any other case, I can use it in this one too. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:32:30 PM EDT
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Amen to that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every Glock I've ever picked up did 2 things right from the box. 1) Fired every round I fed it 2) Hit the target I shot at. Since those are the 2 functions a firearm is required to complete in order to be viable...... Amen to that. This!!! |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:36:21 PM EDT
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Fucking stupid.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:36:28 PM EDT
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I see what you are getting at OP, BUT:
I hate analogies. Guns are not cars, computers, cola or any of the other ridiculous shit that people make up. Just explain why you like the HK more than the Glock. Anything else is silly. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:37:44 PM EDT
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No more apples to oranges for me, it's like comparing handguns to computers from now on.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:40:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like me some HKs, but in what world do Glocks not "just work right out of the box"? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:41:29 PM EDT
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Winners win.
Losers make excuses. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:41:54 PM EDT
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You can get spare parts for Apple computers. You can get them for the HK. Just expensive. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Gen 4 17 shot like shit until they offered to replace springs...that didn't fix it, then I bought myself an updated extractor. Then it worked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like me some HKs, but in what world do Glocks not "just work right out of the box"? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:45:43 PM EDT
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So by home built computer you mean: faster, more powerful, more capable, for less money than an Apple? If something breaks, you can easily replace it yourself without it costing you much money or effort?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:47:09 PM EDT
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Are we going to fabricate more nonexistent issues to bash glocks with? This. I don't even like glocks. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:47:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So by home built computer you mean: faster, more powerful, more capable, for less money than an Apple? If something breaks, you can easily replace it yourself without it costing you much money or effort? "boom".gif
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No more apples to oranges for me, it's like comparing handguns to computers from now on. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:51:15 PM EDT
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Hmmm, lessee, I've got a PC, two laptops, a tablet and another laptop on the way.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:55:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:56:15 PM EDT
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My glocks have ran 100% and so have my hks. I dont see why factory polymer combat pistols would need tweeks. I just go with night sights if it doesnt have them. I work at night by the way. 9 times out of 10 its the indian mot the arrow. Like the people who cant even put one round through their m&p until it gets an apex job. Go shoot the damn gun.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:57:50 PM EDT
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whenever i am absolutely sure that i have just read the most retarded thread on GD ever, something like this thread comes along. never fails. ar-jedi |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:59:09 PM EDT
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It might have already been said, but Glocks are more like Apples "they just work" according to your analogy. And then a custom 1911 would be akin to a homebuilt PC since they sometimes are considered to have less than perfect reliability whether or not that is your experience. An HK might be a semi-custom PC built by someone like IBUYPOWER or CYBERPOWERPC.
Regardless they all go  at the end of the day! 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:01:24 PM EDT
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Bad comparison, because a home built PC can easily be better than an off the shelve Apple (or insert other rebranding company). You can build a nicer looking, faster, more reliable (better cooling), quieter PC than an Apple easily. Or, you can build a cheap $400 box.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:03:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It might have already been said, but Glocks are more like Apples "they just work" according to your analogy. And then a custom 1911 would be akin to a homebuilt PC since they sometimes are considered to have less than perfect reliability whether or not that is your experience. An HK might be a semi-custom PC built by someone like IBUYPOWER or CYBERPOWERPC. Regardless they all go at the end of the day! Analogies are lazy and generally uninformed. I like facts and well articulated arguments.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:03:24 PM EDT
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I have a MacBook Air and own Glocks. Your comparison sucks. Yes, I have tweaked my Glocks, but only with Glock factory parts other than the sights on my Gen4 34. I did just buy a Gen4 19 that will be a suppressor host resulting in an aftermarket barrel and Trijicon tall sights. Oh, my grip plugs aren't Glock and I will try a Magpul magazine when I can find one.
FWIW- I did tweak my MB Air by adding an Edge 128 gig drive. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:07:06 PM EDT
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Sounds about right to me. HK's are overly expensive for what they are. So are Apple products. HK fanboys spend stupid money just to have those two letters on their receiver without getting much in return. So do Apple disciples. Most people don't buy an HK to mess with it and customize it. Neither do Apple customers. HK owners get mad when you point out obvious design flaws in their products. So do Apple owners. I don't like HK handguns. I don't like Apple devices either. There are no obvious design flaws in Apple products! |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:10:40 PM EDT
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I have had HK USPs, Glock and XDs, as far as tupperware pistols go.
They all run great and I can feed them anything. They are all very accurate, so get what feels best in your hand.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:14:00 PM EDT
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I hope you found one you like. Both are good choices. I have thousands through my G19, and I doubt I'll ever own anything other than a Glock, unless I find a good deal. Sig is way up there, too.
I own a Glock. I could think of worse problems to have than to own a HK.
Not even a debate. Both win. It's personal choice, and neither are bad. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:14:58 PM EDT
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No, I hate Apple products & build my own PCs. Apple doesn't "just work" anymore than anything else does. Apple users tend to not be demanding of performance. They are also annoying as hell. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you agree or disagree with this comparison? Many of you know I have given up on the Glocks and found a gun that works for me. I don't worry about how to tweak it to my needs. I found a gun that "just works". No, I hate Apple products & build my own PCs. Apple doesn't "just work" anymore than anything else does. Apple users tend to not be demanding of performance. They are also annoying as hell. Funny. I'm in the printing industry, we have worked our Macs hard since 1986. For a good number of those years, the PC was not at all viable and until the last decade, the PC still struggled to be a usable alternative. 15 years ago I'd typically be running my Power Mac with ftp server, pricing software, rip for epson printer while also running Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Quark, and it never broke a sweat with all of that running. That being said, I like my Glock and I can't imagine spending double to get the same functionality. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:15:28 PM EDT
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There are no obvious design flaws in Apple products! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds about right to me. HK's are overly expensive for what they are. So are Apple products. HK fanboys spend stupid money just to have those two letters on their receiver without getting much in return. So do Apple disciples. Most people don't buy an HK to mess with it and customize it. Neither do Apple customers. HK owners get mad when you point out obvious design flaws in their products. So do Apple owners. I don't like HK handguns. I don't like Apple devices either. There are no obvious design flaws in Apple products! 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:20:12 PM EDT
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You pull the trigger and I fires accurately. What else do you "need" in a handgun?
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