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Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:08:13 PM EDT
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Al has a 40% chance of surviving with the surgery and a 100% chance of dying soon without it.

I'd go for the surgery.
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He would have a 40 percent chance if he was not on kidney dialysis.  He is too weak for the operation.  The surgery would kill him.   The tumor is right there next to his heart and the bleeding would be spectacular. The surgery would be a success, but the patient would die.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:08:16 PM EDT
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I'm sorry Fluffy, thats a raw deal and bad hand to be dealt.   Life can be a cruel bitch.   I am truly sorry
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:08:20 PM EDT
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.



Wow.

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Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:08:24 PM EDT
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Prayers sent Fluffy.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:13:07 PM EDT
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Prayers sent ....

Very sorry to hear about your friend. He is lucky to have you and you lucky to have him.
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This.  Sorry to hear about your friend.  Hopefully he can find some peace, say his goodbyes etc. in the time he has left.  :(
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:14:02 PM EDT
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I'm sorry Fluffy.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:23:56 PM EDT
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.


I thought this was a real dick thing to say until I saw who said it.
It's still a real dick thing to say, I'm just not surprised anymore.

My condolences Fluffy, to you and your friend.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:34:02 PM EDT
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Prayers for your friend.

FUCK CANCER
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:36:08 PM EDT
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A while ago, my friend first took ill.  He had a 50 pound cancerous growth in his abdomen.  The cancer was not malignant; however, it literally choked his kidneys and damaged them.  As a result he is now on kidney dialysis.

The other day, Al had an MRI and they found another cancerous growth.  This one is right near his heart and major coronary arteries.  With my friend's precarious health, the doctors cannot remove the cancer. Removing the cancer would certainly kill my friend.  Even if he was otherwise young and strong, he would only have a 40 percent chance of surviving the surgery.

So, the cancer is going to grow and at a certain point, Al will have a fatal heart attack.  The cancer will literally choke his heart and kill him.

We don't know how long it will take.  A month, six months, a year--we don't know yet.

What a crappy way to die.

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Sorry to hear that, L.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:41:04 PM EDT
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I have read [ and participated ] in too many of these stories for too long. Sorry about this sad situation, Fuffy.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:46:45 PM EDT
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Yup.

I think I would get my final affairs in order, tell my family and friends how much I love them, check at least one more item off the bucket list, then find a Doctor who is willing to give the surgery a go.  Just waiting around for the inevitable would be WAAAAAAAAAY to hard for me to do without losing my sanity.
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At least he knows what's coming, and he can prepare his family and friends.  My thoughts are with him, you, and his family. I'm so sorry hear this.


Yup.

I think I would get my final affairs in order, tell my family and friends how much I love them, check at least one more item off the bucket list, then find a Doctor who is willing to give the surgery a go.  Just waiting around for the inevitable would be WAAAAAAAAAY to hard for me to do without losing my sanity.


This.

Gimme 60% chance of instant death over 100% chance of being dead in a year.

Odds are 100% that we are all going to die someday.

Sorry about your buddy. My mom is sick (cancer) and a buddy/next door neighbor just passed away unexpectedly on friday.


Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:46:50 PM EDT
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So sorry to hear, stay strong for him. FUCK CANCER!
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:47:47 PM EDT
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Touch situation, prayers inbound.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:52:12 PM EDT
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Mr. Fluffy,

Miracles happen everyday.
Be strong for your friend and his family.. And Hug Yours.  You will need them.

Remind your friend, that cancer may be a mean son of a bitch, he just has to be meaner.
Keep his spirits up,  because at this point, doctors be damned, the fight is on.

Kevin
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 8:57:58 PM EDT
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I'd go for the surgery.






He would have a 40 percent chance if he was not on kidney dialysis.  He is too weak for the operation.  The surgery would kill him.   The tumor is right there next to his heart and the bleeding would be spectacular. The surgery would be a success, but the patient would die.



Sorry about your friend.



I know it's tough to be positive; but, anyone of us could die in a car accident tomorrow. Your friend has a chance to prepare and his loved ones have a chance to say goodbye.



He also has a choice to pass peacefully by stopping dialysis.



The best thing you can do is just be there for him and the family.



 
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:03:52 PM EDT
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And as such I think you should have something of his to cherish. Although I understand it may be a painful reminder.
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Prayers for you and your friend and his family ,fluffy.

Spend as much time as you can with him and make his last days with you something you will remember forever.


It's hard because he is very unhappy.  But he is worried about his gun collection and we are going to help him with that.  He has some very nice guns and we are going to help him give them away while he is alive.

As for me, I really don't want any of his guns because I would never be able to enjoy them.

You are a  real friend.


And as such I think you should have something of his to cherish. Although I understand it may be a painful reminder.


I agree.

Be there for your buddy Fluffy and help him settle his affairs, honor and celebrate his memory when he is gone. I said a prayer for you both.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:05:21 PM EDT
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sorry for your friend Fluffy, I hope Al can spend as much time as he can with his family and close friends. cancer sucks.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:13:22 PM EDT
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this.


also curious about chemo and radiation to shrink it.  

and very sorry you and your friend have to endure any of it
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:16:18 PM EDT
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Yup.

I think I would get my final affairs in order, tell my family and friends how much I love them, check at least one more item off the bucket list, then find a Doctor who is willing to give the surgery a go.  Just waiting around for the inevitable would be WAAAAAAAAAY to hard for me to do without losing my sanity.
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At least he knows what's coming, and he can prepare his family and friends.  My thoughts are with him, you, and his family. I'm so sorry hear this.


Yup.

I think I would get my final affairs in order, tell my family and friends how much I love them, check at least one more item off the bucket list, then find a Doctor who is willing to give the surgery a go.  Just waiting around for the inevitable would be WAAAAAAAAAY to hard for me to do without losing my sanity.


this. do the surgery but do everything above before just in case.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:36:54 PM EDT
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The surgery would kill him.  He has zero percent chance.  Removing the tumor that close to his heart would kill him in any number of ways.  He could have a blood clot in his heart or he could have a burst artery and an uncontrolled bleeding.  On top of all that he is weak as a result from dialysis.  He could go into shock and some of his other organs could fail.

He would only have a 40 percent chance if he was otherwise healthy.

Sadly, he is a goner.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:38:06 PM EDT
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.






Wow.



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Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:44:54 PM EDT
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Wow.

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Mitch deserves a timeout  


No, he doesn't.  I was sloppy with language and anyway, he's forgiven.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:45:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:48:17 PM EDT
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I don't know.

But Al likes to shoot with his nephews.  Al is too weak to hold a rifle; however, he really enjoys seeing his nephews shooting and having fun.  

Al does not have a Garand, so I am going to show up and lend his nephews a few Garands.  It will be a Garandacious day for all to enjoy.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:48:17 PM EDT
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Mr. Fluffy,

Miracles happen everyday.
Be strong for your friend and his family.. And Hug Yours.  You will need them.

Remind your friend, that cancer may be a mean son of a bitch, he just has to be meaner.
Keep his spirits up,  because at this point, doctors be damned, the fight is on.

Kevin
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This and prayers.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:49:28 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear about your friend.  Fuck cancer.

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Link Posted: 2/1/2015 9:51:50 PM EDT
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I don't know.

But Al likes to shoot with his nephews.  Al is too weak to hold a rifle; however, he really enjoys seeing his nephews shooting and having fun.  

Al does not have a Garand, so I am going to show up and lend his nephews a few Garands.  It will be a Garandacious day for all to enjoy.
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Has he gone for a second opinion?



I don't know.

But Al likes to shoot with his nephews.  Al is too weak to hold a rifle; however, he really enjoys seeing his nephews shooting and having fun.  

Al does not have a Garand, so I am going to show up and lend his nephews a few Garands.  It will be a Garandacious day for all to enjoy.



Great idea.  Also video the day so he can watch it over and over.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 10:01:46 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear that, OP. Just found out tonight that an old coworker of mine is dying - Stage 4, metastasized. Just a matter of time.

Funny fuckin' guy, always had a blast working with him when I'd be detailed to his place.

At this point, I've lost track of the number of guys I worked with that have cancer now. Had it up to here with fucking cancer.

Link Posted: 2/1/2015 10:09:28 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear the bad news about Al.  He will be in my prayers.

I also suggest a second opinion.

If it is the growth of a benign tumor that threatens to end his life there are non-surgical treatments that might reduce its size / advancement.

Link Posted: 2/1/2015 10:09:48 PM EDT
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Cancer sucks.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 10:16:38 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear about your friend.
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 10:38:22 PM EDT
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A while ago, my friend first took ill.  He had a 50 pound cancerous growth in his abdomen.  The cancer was not malignant; however, it literally choked his kidneys and damaged them.  As a result he is now on kidney dialysis.

The other day, Al had an MRI and they found another cancerous growth.  This one is right near his heart and major coronary arteries.  With my friend's precarious health, the doctors cannot remove the cancer. Removing the cancer would certainly kill my friend.  Even if he was otherwise young and strong, he would only have a 40 percent chance of surviving the surgery.

So, the cancer is going to grow and at a certain point, Al will have a fatal heart attack.  The cancer will literally choke his heart and kill him.

We don't know how long it will take.  A month, six months, a year--we don't know yet.

What a crappy way to die.

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The cancer was not malignant?????????????
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 10:45:56 PM EDT
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.

Yup, you're that guy.


Sorry OP
Link Posted: 2/1/2015 11:25:10 PM EDT
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Fluffy,
That's a terrible fate for your friend.

All I can offer are my hopes and prayers. I wish I could do more for your friend and for you.

Be there for him and his family  (you didn't need to be told that but I said it anyways)

LePew
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 12:06:36 AM EDT
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No, he doesn't.  I was sloppy with language and anyway, he's forgiven.
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Wow.

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Mitch deserves a timeout  


No, he doesn't.  I was sloppy with language and anyway, he's forgiven.


You're a better man than most of us.
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 12:11:28 AM EDT
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I hope for the best for your friend.
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 12:36:19 AM EDT
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Prayers for you and your friend.
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 12:46:11 AM EDT
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Has your friend consulted some American cancer specialists?

Not to jab too hard at Canada, but he needs advise from doctors not years behind in treatment options and restricted by cost in what options they can take.
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 1:14:26 AM EDT
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Sorry to hear about your friend Fluffy.
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A while ago, my friend first took ill.  He had a 50 pound cancerous growth in his abdomen.  The cancer was not malignant; however, it literally choked his kidneys and damaged them.  As a result he is now on kidney dialysis.

The other day, Al had an MRI and they found another cancerous growth.  This one is right near his heart and major coronary arteries.  With my friend's precarious health, the doctors cannot remove the cancer. Removing the cancer would certainly kill my friend.  Even if he was otherwise young and strong, he would only have a 40 percent chance of surviving the surgery.

So, the cancer is going to grow and at a certain point, Al will have a fatal heart attack.  The cancer will literally choke his heart and kill him.

We don't know how long it will take.  A month, six months, a year--we don't know yet.

What a crappy way to die.

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Make him happy, see movies, go out to eat with him...Make add life to his days since you not add days to his life...
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 1:18:07 AM EDT
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It's hard because he is very unhappy.  But he is worried about his gun collection and we are going to help him with that.  He has some very nice guns and we are going to help him give them away while he is alive.

As for me, I really don't want any of his guns because I would never be able to enjoy them.
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Prayers for you and your friend and his family ,fluffy.

Spend as much time as you can with him and make his last days with you something you will remember forever.


It's hard because he is very unhappy.  But he is worried about his gun collection and we are going to help him with that.  He has some very nice guns and we are going to help him give them away while he is alive.

As for me, I really don't want any of his guns because I would never be able to enjoy them.


Keep a few, as reminds of his life, of his tastes, of his memory...
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 2:57:14 AM EDT
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Praying

Link Posted: 2/2/2015 3:01:18 AM EDT
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Sorry about your friend.
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You're a better man than most of us.

Yeah, he is.  



Sorry to hear this, Fluffy.

Link Posted: 2/2/2015 3:40:12 AM EDT
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As have I, Prayers for Al and his family & Friends.
Link Posted: 2/2/2015 10:56:31 AM EDT
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This ... anything which will bring him a little joy.

Also, reconsider on the guns, if he really wants you to have them. (this will be very important, to him.)

Link Posted: 2/2/2015 11:03:38 AM EDT
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Damn. I'd be pissed.
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.
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You might want to consult a dictionary. all cancers (except the constellation in the sky) are malignant.


Fuck it, I'll take a time out.  You're an asshole.

Link Posted: 2/2/2015 11:09:38 AM EDT
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A while ago, my friend first took ill.  He had a 50 pound cancerous growth in his abdomen.  The cancer was not malignant; however, it literally choked his kidneys and damaged them.  As a result he is now on kidney dialysis.

The other day, Al had an MRI and they found another cancerous growth.  This one is right near his heart and major coronary arteries.  With my friend's precarious health, the doctors cannot remove the cancer. Removing the cancer would certainly kill my friend.  Even if he was otherwise young and strong, he would only have a 40 percent chance of surviving the surgery.

So, the cancer is going to grow and at a certain point, Al will have a fatal heart attack.  The cancer will literally choke his heart and kill him.

We don't know how long it will take.  A month, six months, a year--we don't know yet.

What a crappy way to die.

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Sorry to hear that.

Knowing that it's a friend going through that, I can only imagine.

Prayers out for you and your friend in this difficult time..
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