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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:16:32 AM EDT
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Does this mean washed up actors like Fred Thompson and William Devane will be pimping Bitcoins now?
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Anyone calling the certain death or certain success of Bitcoin is out of their fucking mind.
The "it's tulip bulbs" crowd don't know what they are looking at and the "to the moon" crowd are oblivious to the tremendous risks. The only sane folks dealing in Bitcoin are those who realize it's an experiment or at the very least a beta for future cryptocurrency schemes and have peppered their angus accordingly. With that said, after 7 years and multiple boom bust cycles, it's proven to be a surprisingly robust experiment. This article from November 2011 is worth a read: The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin - Wired Magazine |
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Brian Kelly, the guy who wrote that opinion piece, also wrote this book.
The Bitcoin Big Bang Book Description Publication Date: November 17, 2014 Get a handle on the digital currency revolution, and learn how to get on board The Bitcoin Big Bang is a guide to navigating the uncharted territory of digital currency. Written by CNBC contributor Brian Kelly, this book goes beyond Bitcoin 101 to explain how this transformative technology is about to change the world. Digital currency is thrown into perspective against the history of payment systems and its own evolution, as readers are invited to explore the ways in which this technology is already changing the way business gets done. Readers gain insight into the mechanisms behind Bitcoin, and an expert perspective on digital currency's effect on the future of money and the economic implications of the Bitcoin revolution. In the same way that e-mail changed the way we transfer information, the decentralized Bitcoin network is about to revolutionize the business world, the legal profession, and even the role of the government. The Bitcoin Big Bang dives head first into this paradigm shift, allowing readers to: Explore the origins of digital currency Learn the history and evolution of payment systems Discover how the Bitcoin network is facilitating free and instant transfer of value Understand the mining of Bitcoin, and how to invest The digital currency revolution has implications that spread far beyond the finance industry. Anyone who exchanges payment for goods and services is on the cusp of the next big push in societal evolution, and only an understanding of the technology and a clear knowledge of the systems and behaviors at play can fully prepare us for the changes to come. The Bitcoin Big Bang is the go-to guide, helping those who use money use it better. |
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View Quote The only way to control the opposition is to lead it. |
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I believe we are moving toward an electronic currency, but it will be government or banker controlled for obvious reasons.
Remember, bitcoin is vulnerable to: theft via hacking (happened once from Australia and once I know in Europe), loss via disappearance of the virtual wallet (Mt. Gox), and the internet kill switch |
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View Quote So was Enron. eta: (beat!) |
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So was Enron. The NYSE was a stakeholder in Enron? |
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This just in, Beanie babies are anonymous and can be used to buy real goods..
oh wait.
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So was Enron. eta: (beat!) Enron was a mismanaged and corrupt organization and completely dissimilar to Coinbase. I mean, you're comparing apples to space shuttles. CoinBase is an exchange where you can swap bitcoin for USD. A similar setup would be taking your USD and swapping them for Canadian dollars, where the exchange company takes a small fee for their services. Right now Coinbase isn't charging a fee, but the concept is the same. There are literally hundreds if not THOUSANDS of cryptocurrencies out there, and new ones are being released every day. Bitcoin and Litecoin are being accepted all over the world, and is becoming more and more popular. As for the hacking and loss of wallets, we've seen that happen, what two or three times in seven years? Meanwhile, how many US banks have folded in the same time period? How devalued have world currencies become? With that said, only a moron would put their entire life savings in crypto. Anyone who has ever looked into investments, the very first lesson they learn is to not put everything they have into one thing, because if shit goes south, you'll lose you ass. The Mt. Gox case is the prime example of that. Don't keep all your wallets on a server you don't have access too. make a copy of your wallet on a thumb drive or even a flash card and stick it somewhere safe, that way you have a backup should something happen. For golly gee wiz info, I hold coins in: Bitcoin Litecoin Dotcoin PetroDollar Guncoin RippleLite BitCentavo LottoCoin Aricoin CryptoClub Digibyte MetalMusicCoin |
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Enron was a mismanaged and corrupt organization and completely dissimilar to Coinbase. I mean, you're comparing apples to space shuttles. CoinBase is an exchange where you can swap bitcoin for USD. A similar setup would be taking your USD and swapping them for Canadian dollars, where the exchange company takes a small fee for their services. Right now Coinbase isn't charging a fee, but the concept is the same. There are literally hundreds if not THOUSANDS of cryptocurrencies out there, and new ones are being released every day. Bitcoin and Litecoin are being accepted all over the world, and is becoming more and more popular. As for the hacking and loss of wallets, we've seen that happen, what two or three times in seven years? Meanwhile, how many US banks have folded in the same time period? How devalued have world currencies become? With that said, only a moron would put their entire life savings in crypto. Anyone who has ever looked into investments, the very first lesson they learn is to not put everything they have into one thing, because if shit goes south, you'll lose you ass. The Mt. Gox case is the prime example of that. Don't keep all your wallets on a server you don't have access too. make a copy of your wallet on a thumb drive or even a flash card and stick it somewhere safe, that way you have a backup should something happen. For golly gee wiz info, I hold coins in: Bitcoin Litecoin Dotcoin PetroDollar Guncoin RippleLite BitCentavo LottoCoin Aricoin CryptoClub Digibyte MetalMusicCoin View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So was Enron. eta: (beat!) Enron was a mismanaged and corrupt organization and completely dissimilar to Coinbase. I mean, you're comparing apples to space shuttles. CoinBase is an exchange where you can swap bitcoin for USD. A similar setup would be taking your USD and swapping them for Canadian dollars, where the exchange company takes a small fee for their services. Right now Coinbase isn't charging a fee, but the concept is the same. There are literally hundreds if not THOUSANDS of cryptocurrencies out there, and new ones are being released every day. Bitcoin and Litecoin are being accepted all over the world, and is becoming more and more popular. As for the hacking and loss of wallets, we've seen that happen, what two or three times in seven years? Meanwhile, how many US banks have folded in the same time period? How devalued have world currencies become? With that said, only a moron would put their entire life savings in crypto. Anyone who has ever looked into investments, the very first lesson they learn is to not put everything they have into one thing, because if shit goes south, you'll lose you ass. The Mt. Gox case is the prime example of that. Don't keep all your wallets on a server you don't have access too. make a copy of your wallet on a thumb drive or even a flash card and stick it somewhere safe, that way you have a backup should something happen. For golly gee wiz info, I hold coins in: Bitcoin Litecoin Dotcoin PetroDollar Guncoin RippleLite BitCentavo LottoCoin Aricoin CryptoClub Digibyte MetalMusicCoin Why not DogeCoin? |
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So was Enron. eta: (beat!) Enron was a mismanaged and corrupt organization and completely dissimilar to Coinbase. I mean, you're comparing apples to space shuttles. CoinBase is an exchange where you can swap bitcoin for USD. A similar setup would be taking your USD and swapping them for Canadian dollars, where the exchange company takes a small fee for their services. Right now Coinbase isn't charging a fee, but the concept is the same. There are literally hundreds if not THOUSANDS of cryptocurrencies out there, and new ones are being released every day. Bitcoin and Litecoin are being accepted all over the world, and is becoming more and more popular. As for the hacking and loss of wallets, we've seen that happen, what two or three times in seven years? Meanwhile, how many US banks have folded in the same time period? How devalued have world currencies become? With that said, only a moron would put their entire life savings in crypto. Anyone who has ever looked into investments, the very first lesson they learn is to not put everything they have into one thing, because if shit goes south, you'll lose you ass. The Mt. Gox case is the prime example of that. Don't keep all your wallets on a server you don't have access too. make a copy of your wallet on a thumb drive or even a flash card and stick it somewhere safe, that way you have a backup should something happen. For golly gee wiz info, I hold coins in: Bitcoin Litecoin Dotcoin PetroDollar Guncoin RippleLite BitCentavo LottoCoin Aricoin CryptoClub Digibyte MetalMusicCoin Why not DogeCoin? Sold it all. But it's actually doing quite well in the markets, considering it was created as a joke. |
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View Quote Little digital tokens backed by nothing but a hope that you can sell them to a greater fool tomorrow are not the future of currency, and have no intrinsic value. http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoins-have-no-value-2013-4 |
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Quoted: Little digital tokens backed by nothing but a hope that you can sell them to a greater fool tomorrow are not the future of currency, and have no intrinsic value. http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoins-have-no-value-2013-4 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Little digital tokens backed by nothing but a hope that you can sell them to a greater fool tomorrow are not the future of currency, and have no intrinsic value. http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoins-have-no-value-2013-4 |
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Quoted: Little digital tokens backed by nothing but a hope that you can sell them to a greater fool tomorrow are not the future of currency, and have no intrinsic value. http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoins-have-no-value-2013-4 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Little digital tokens backed by nothing but a hope that you can sell them to a greater fool tomorrow are not the future of currency, and have no intrinsic value. http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoins-have-no-value-2013-4 |
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Doesn't a "regulated exchange" defeat the entire purpose of BitCoins anonymous finances?
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Bitcoins will never be a real "currency" until it is no longer used as an investment by most of the people buying it and people want to use them to trade goods and services. Most people until now don't look at bitcoins as a way to buy and pay for stuff.
That said, there is a hell of an incentive for this type of "currency". In the last 5 years, there has been a sharp decline in the use of cash and an explosion in the use of credit/debit cards. For merchants, who face increasingly lower margins due to internet competitors, the fees associated with credit and debit cards are going to be eventually a place they look to eliminate from the cost of doing business. AND that is exactly what will drive this changeover. AND it might happen quickly. Bitcoin or something similar could fit that use like a glove because it is cheap to use an a medium of exchange. It is like a dollar in that is doesn't cost much to take it. It is never going to happen as long as people feel that bit coins are an investment, but something that is cheaper to use than credit cards is going to be successful in the future. It might just end up being bit coins. |
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Arfcom can't wrap its head around Twitter and struggles with the concept of valuations.
Cryptocurrencies.......? |
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View Quote Great article and it discusses the obvious stuff I mentioned. Bitcoin or something like it is going to be the way people pay for stuff in the future. |
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Government (and central banks) can't have that. So they fix it by becoming the gatekeeper. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Doesn't a "regulated exchange" defeat the entire purpose of BitCoins anonymous finances? Government (and central banks) can't have that. So they fix it by becoming the gatekeeper. BTW, US government is one of the biggest holder of BitCoins. Asset seizure of course. |
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I believe we are moving toward an electronic currency, but it will be government or banker controlled for obvious reasons. Remember, bitcoin is vulnerable to: theft via hacking (happened once from Australia and once I know in Europe), loss via disappearance of the virtual wallet (Mt. Gox), and the internet kill switch View Quote Whoa... you mean to tell me that if you fail to properly secure your computer, someone can steal your bitcoins along with your bank credentials? Shocking. There's no such thing as an "internet kill switch". |
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Bitcoins will never be a real "currency" until it is no longer used as an investment by most of the people buying it and people want to use them to trade goods and services. Most people until now don't look at bitcoins as a way to buy and pay for stuff. That said, there is a hell of an incentive for this type of "currency". In the last 5 years, there has been a sharp decline in the use of cash and an explosion in the use of credit/debit cards. For merchants, who face increasingly lower margins due to internet competitors, the fees associated with credit and debit cards are going to be eventually a place they look to eliminate from the cost of doing business. AND that is exactly what will drive this changeover. AND it might happen quickly. Bitcoin or something similar could fit that use like a glove because it is cheap to use an a medium of exchange. It is like a dollar in that is doesn't cost much to take it. It is never going to happen as long as people feel that bit coins are an investment, but something that is cheaper to use than credit cards is going to be successful in the future. It might just end up being bit coins. View Quote The liquidity difficulty is what has been the limiting factor in bitcoins adoption in my opinion. Once people are able to quickly move digital dollars into bitcoins and pay at the point of sale you will see more people accepting it. Reducing the time the payer holds 'value' in btc also reduces the risk of rapid changes in valuation that come with speculation. I made a bit of money in btc and plan on using it as a method of payment at my business. |
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The liquidity difficulty is what has been the limiting factor in bitcoins adoption in my opinion. Once people are able to quickly move digital dollars into bitcoins and pay at the point of sale you will see more people accepting it. Reducing the time the payer holds 'value' in btc also reduces the risk of rapid changes in valuation that come with speculation. I made a bit of money in btc and plan on using it as a method of payment at my business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bitcoins will never be a real "currency" until it is no longer used as an investment by most of the people buying it and people want to use them to trade goods and services. Most people until now don't look at bitcoins as a way to buy and pay for stuff. That said, there is a hell of an incentive for this type of "currency". In the last 5 years, there has been a sharp decline in the use of cash and an explosion in the use of credit/debit cards. For merchants, who face increasingly lower margins due to internet competitors, the fees associated with credit and debit cards are going to be eventually a place they look to eliminate from the cost of doing business. AND that is exactly what will drive this changeover. AND it might happen quickly. Bitcoin or something similar could fit that use like a glove because it is cheap to use an a medium of exchange. It is like a dollar in that is doesn't cost much to take it. It is never going to happen as long as people feel that bit coins are an investment, but something that is cheaper to use than credit cards is going to be successful in the future. It might just end up being bit coins. The liquidity difficulty is what has been the limiting factor in bitcoins adoption in my opinion. Once people are able to quickly move digital dollars into bitcoins and pay at the point of sale you will see more people accepting it. Reducing the time the payer holds 'value' in btc also reduces the risk of rapid changes in valuation that come with speculation. I made a bit of money in btc and plan on using it as a method of payment at my business. Agreed on that point. There are only a few places that I know of that swap btc for usd, coinbase and bter being two of them, and if their service goes down, companies could get hosed in the process. |
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