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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:28:38 PM EDT
Shepard Book says " I don't care what you believe in, just believe in it." Just before he dies, he mumbles something else. What was it?
Link Posted: 1/29/2015 9:42:55 PM EDT
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You just had to bring this up, didn't you?



Now I gotta go watch the whole damn series AND the movie....AGAIN!!!!!!!



Bastard....
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He was blind the whole time.  Shiny.

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"Special Heaven"
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My hearing sucks so I'm probably wrong, but to me it always sounded like "And never give up."
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Someone please turn the captioning on and answer the question!
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There's a movie??
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He was starting to reiterate "What ever you..."  And then he dies. He doesn't finish his sentence.
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HE DIES!?!?!


















































































spoiler alert!  
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Sigh...

14'ers.....



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There's a movie??

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There's a movie??


Serenity.

If you're a fan of the series you will like it.
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"No...there is another..."
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Off to that Star Wars Special Hell to both of you!!!
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"Shoot straight for once, you army pukes..."
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He admitted to Mal that he was the alliance general, Richard Wilkens, who led the attack at Serenity Valley.
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There's a movie??


Firefly = series.

Serenity = movie.
Link Posted: 1/30/2015 12:53:56 AM EDT
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He once told me, "If you can't do something smart, do something right"
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I'm going to need more verification.



 
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I always asumed he was one of those "operatives" that tracked them in the movie, boy was I wrong!
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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.
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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.

It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.


It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
I'm intrigued....spill it.

 
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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.



It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
I'm intrigued....spill it.  





 

Him being a sleeper agent for Weyland, with his back story implanted in River's head, to get her to bring down Blue Sun...Alien/Blade Runner cross over?

 
Link Posted: 1/30/2015 1:20:07 AM EDT
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Something about living long and prospering
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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.


It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
I'm intrigued....spill it.  


 
Him being a sleeper agent for Weyland, with his back story implanted in River's head, to get her to bring down Blue Sun...Alien/Blade Runner cross over?
 
Damn, that would've been a hell of a twist. Firefly threads make me sad. Fuck you Fox.

 
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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.

It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
I'm intrigued....spill it.  

Simon Tam, the soft, reserved, novice criminal, right?

Yet, oddly, when the chips are down, he always pulls through, doesn't he? More than once, he unexpectedly shows iron, from a character everyone assumes is made from jelly...

The hints in his emotions and reactions can be seen throughout the series. He even reacts with guilt to a closely related accusation in one scene...

We know his highest priority is keeping his innocent little sister safe.

We know his parents cut him off from the family fortune after he tried too hard to find out what happened to his sister.

We see, in the last flashback to his past, that his parents have given up on River, and think he should do the same. And that Simon takes this as the ultimate betrayal.

So how is it that Simon tracked down and managed to free River using "money, mostly"? He had been cut off from the family fortune...

Why do we never hear another word about the Tam parents?

Why doesn't River ask about them?

Why aren't they used as leverage by the Alliance, to get Simon to turn himself in?


We know Simon is one of the most gifted doctors alive...


He murdered his parents. Poisoned them in a way that wouldn't make him an immediate suspect. By doing so, he inherited the family fortune and thus was able to free River. But the guilt of his actions haunts him throughout the series.

We see this very plot foreshadowed in the scene where River is introduced. Other clues are scattered throughout the series.

River knows. She doesn't ask about her parents because she knows the answer.

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Simon Tam, the soft, reserved, novice criminal, right?



Yet, oddly, when the chips are down, he always pulls through, doesn't he? More than once, he unexpectedly shows iron, from a character everyone assumes is made from jelly...



The hints in his emotions and reactions can be seen throughout the series. He even reacts with guilt to a closely related accusation in one scene...



We know his highest priority is keeping his innocent little sister safe.



We know his parents cut him off from the family fortune after he tried too hard to find out what happened to his sister.



We see, in the last flashback to his past, that his parents have given up on River, and think he should do the same. And that Simon takes this as the ultimate betrayal.



So how is it that Simon tracked down and managed to free River using "money, mostly"? He had been cut off from the family fortune...



Why do we never hear another word about the Tam parents?



Why doesn't River ask about them?



Why aren't they used as leverage by the Alliance, to get Simon to turn himself in?





We know Simon is one of the most gifted doctors alive...





He murdered his parents. Poisoned them in a way that wouldn't make him an immediate suspect. By doing so, he inherited the family fortune and thus was able to free River. But the guilt of his actions haunts him throughout the series.



We see this very plot foreshadowed in the scene where River is introduced. Other clues are scattered throughout the series.



River knows. She doesn't ask about her parents because she knows the answer.



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My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.


It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
I'm intrigued....spill it.  


Simon Tam, the soft, reserved, novice criminal, right?



Yet, oddly, when the chips are down, he always pulls through, doesn't he? More than once, he unexpectedly shows iron, from a character everyone assumes is made from jelly...



The hints in his emotions and reactions can be seen throughout the series. He even reacts with guilt to a closely related accusation in one scene...



We know his highest priority is keeping his innocent little sister safe.



We know his parents cut him off from the family fortune after he tried too hard to find out what happened to his sister.



We see, in the last flashback to his past, that his parents have given up on River, and think he should do the same. And that Simon takes this as the ultimate betrayal.



So how is it that Simon tracked down and managed to free River using "money, mostly"? He had been cut off from the family fortune...



Why do we never hear another word about the Tam parents?



Why doesn't River ask about them?



Why aren't they used as leverage by the Alliance, to get Simon to turn himself in?





We know Simon is one of the most gifted doctors alive...





He murdered his parents. Poisoned them in a way that wouldn't make him an immediate suspect. By doing so, he inherited the family fortune and thus was able to free River. But the guilt of his actions haunts him throughout the series.



We see this very plot foreshadowed in the scene where River is introduced. Other clues are scattered throughout the series.



River knows. She doesn't ask about her parents because she knows the answer.





 





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1:44 gets you as close as you'll ever see to an up-skirt of Kaylee.  
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Simon Tam, the soft, reserved, novice criminal, right?

Yet, oddly, when the chips are down, he always pulls through, doesn't he? More than once, he unexpectedly shows iron, from a character everyone assumes is made from jelly...

The hints in his emotions and reactions can be seen throughout the series. He even reacts with guilt to a closely related accusation in one scene...

We know his highest priority is keeping his innocent little sister safe.

We know his parents cut him off from the family fortune after he tried too hard to find out what happened to his sister.

We see, in the last flashback to his past, that his parents have given up on River, and think he should do the same. And that Simon takes this as the ultimate betrayal.

So how is it that Simon tracked down and managed to free River using "money, mostly"? He had been cut off from the family fortune...

Why do we never hear another word about the Tam parents?

Why doesn't River ask about them?

Why aren't they used as leverage by the Alliance, to get Simon to turn himself in?


We know Simon is one of the most gifted doctors alive...


He murdered his parents. Poisoned them in a way that wouldn't make him an immediate suspect. By doing so, he inherited the family fortune and thus was able to free River. But the guilt of his actions haunts him throughout the series.

We see this very plot foreshadowed in the scene where River is introduced. Other clues are scattered throughout the series.

River knows. She doesn't ask about her parents because she knows the answer.

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He admitted to Mal that he was the alliance general, Richard Wilkens, who led the attack at Serenity Valley.


My thoughts have always been along those lines.  That was the back story that should have been.

It has nothing on the secret backstory of Simon Tam...
I'm intrigued....spill it.  

Simon Tam, the soft, reserved, novice criminal, right?

Yet, oddly, when the chips are down, he always pulls through, doesn't he? More than once, he unexpectedly shows iron, from a character everyone assumes is made from jelly...

The hints in his emotions and reactions can be seen throughout the series. He even reacts with guilt to a closely related accusation in one scene...

We know his highest priority is keeping his innocent little sister safe.

We know his parents cut him off from the family fortune after he tried too hard to find out what happened to his sister.

We see, in the last flashback to his past, that his parents have given up on River, and think he should do the same. And that Simon takes this as the ultimate betrayal.

So how is it that Simon tracked down and managed to free River using "money, mostly"? He had been cut off from the family fortune...

Why do we never hear another word about the Tam parents?

Why doesn't River ask about them?

Why aren't they used as leverage by the Alliance, to get Simon to turn himself in?


We know Simon is one of the most gifted doctors alive...


He murdered his parents. Poisoned them in a way that wouldn't make him an immediate suspect. By doing so, he inherited the family fortune and thus was able to free River. But the guilt of his actions haunts him throughout the series.

We see this very plot foreshadowed in the scene where River is introduced. Other clues are scattered throughout the series.

River knows. She doesn't ask about her parents because she knows the answer.



My thoughts as well.  
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According to Serenity, The Official Visual Companion, by Joss Whedon, page 118, it's

BOOK:  I don't care what you believe!  Just ... believe it.  Whatever you have to ...
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There's a movie??

Serenity
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This is GR8!   There is this HEAVY conversation about Simon Tam, the. This shoved right into it!!!
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PRIORITIES!  A man has got to stay true to his priorities in life.
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This is GR8!   There is this HEAVY conversation about Simon Tam, the. This shoved right into it!!!


PRIORITIES!  A man has got to stay true to his priorities in life.

1:44 gets you as close as you'll ever see to an up-skirt of Kaylee.  
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Firefly = series.

Serenity = movie.*
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Bastard....


There's a movie??


Firefly = series.

Serenity = movie.*


*not to be confused with the pilot episode of Firefly, titled Serenity.
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This is GR8!   There is this HEAVY conversation about Simon Tam, the. This shoved right into it!!!




PRIORITIES!  A man has got to stay true to his priorities in life.


1:44 gets you as close as you'll ever see to an up-skirt of Kaylee.  



You do know about her one-time role in "Dead Like Me", right?



 



cold link NSFW http://youtu.be/MZZK99jioIw
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GORRAMIT!!!

WTF?!?!
Serenity isn't on Netflix nor Amazon Prime anymore.

Going to have to actually get up and put the bluray in the player...
Damn it.

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How could there be so many habitable planets in one star system? Were there multiple stars? The Goldielocks zone isn't that big.
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I don't think Serenity was the best way they could have ended Firefly. The Reavers' origins couldn't have been lamer.
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Terraforming.
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So even my mom (good old mom) is now hooked on Firefly.  This little old granny came up and visited a few weeks ago.  We watched Much Ado about Nothing (wife loves that movie) that night via NetFlix.  When it was done, mom thought it was a really great movie (also has a great musical score).  I told her it was by Josh Whedon.  She asked what else he did?  So... I showed her!  6 episodes into Firefly over 2 days, and she had to go back home.  

She's loves the Firefly show and doesn't understand how she never heard of it... [sigh].    She can't wait to finish watching the series on her next visit.  Jayne Cobb is her favorite - that shit cracked me up.  So now mom can't wait to finish out the series.  Heh, kind of cool.
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So even my mom (good old mom) is now hooked on Firefly.  This little old granny came up and visited a few weeks ago.  We watched Much Ado about Nothing (wife loves that movie) that night via NetFlix.  When it was done, mom thought it was a really great movie (also has a great musical score).  I told her it was by Josh Whedon.  She asked what else he did?  So... I showed her!  6 episodes into Firefly over 2 days, and she had to go back home.  





She's loves the Firefly show and doesn't understand how she never heard of it... [sigh].    She can't wait to finish watching the series on her next visit.  Jayne Cobb is her favorite - that shit cracked me up.  So now mom can't wait to finish out the series.  Heh, kind of cool.
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Several planets each with several moons, all capable of being terraformed.

Which brings up another question: A "moon" is assumed to be much smaller than its parent planet. So they must be smaller than Earth. How do they get "earth-normal" gravity on such a moon? They'd have to do this first, before terraformation begins.
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Several planets each with several moons, all capable of being terraformed.

Which brings up another question: A "moon" is assumed to be much smaller than its parent planet. So they must be smaller than Earth. How do they get "earth-normal" gravity on such a moon? They'd have to do this first, before terraformation begins.
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How could there be so many habitable planets in one star system? Were there multiple stars? The Goldielocks zone isn't that big.

Several planets each with several moons, all capable of being terraformed.

Which brings up another question: A "moon" is assumed to be much smaller than its parent planet. So they must be smaller than Earth. How do they get "earth-normal" gravity on such a moon? They'd have to do this first, before terraformation begins.

Suspension of disbelief. Though true "hard scifi" works won't let that fly, among other details.
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