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I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. |
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I would rather they build a refinery than a pipe to send oil across the US to the highest bidder.The northeast needs a Natural gas pipeline more than Canada needs a way to transport tar sands oil.
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LOL...They'll need a lot more than 5 to get 2/3 override. Why? Because the Dems in vulnerable States only voted for it because they know that Obongo will veto. That way, they can tell their constituents they voted for it. And when they don't vote for an override (and they won't), nobody will be the wiser and they can still say they "voted yes" for Keystone during reelection time. Its all one big game... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Senate only needs 5 votes to override LOL...They'll need a lot more than 5 to get 2/3 override. Why? Because the Dems in vulnerable States only voted for it because they know that Obongo will veto. That way, they can tell their constituents they voted for it. And when they don't vote for an override (and they won't), nobody will be the wiser and they can still say they "voted yes" for Keystone during reelection time. Its all one big game... If the Dems who voted for it don't vote for it on an override, then they voted for it before they voted against it, which will destroy the narrative you say they are trying to create. |
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35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. According to your State department ? |
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35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. Yeah, okay. |
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Wrong. Planned expansion also allows for transportation of North Dakota crude, which will benefit the entire upper Midwest dramatically. That's not taking into account the construction jobs created, or the royalties that will be paid to landowners. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. Wrong. Planned expansion also allows for transportation of North Dakota crude, which will benefit the entire upper Midwest dramatically. That's not taking into account the construction jobs created, or the royalties that will be paid to landowners. And less goddamn trains through my town! Bring it on |
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The hold-up is in the section that crosses the Ogallala Aquifer in South Dakota. How long has the trans-Alaskan pipeline been in existence with no major issues? The difference between the Alaskan Pipeline and the XL is the XL can all be put underground and the trans-Alaskan had major segments above the ground to protect the perma-frost. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know much about this. My understanding is that the keystone pipeline already exists and this is just some sort of shortcut that is going to be built? What sort of impact will the construction have on the area it is being built in? Government approval is needed for the part that is international. How long has the trans-Alaskan pipeline been in existence with no major issues? The difference between the Alaskan Pipeline and the XL is the XL can all be put underground and the trans-Alaskan had major segments above the ground to protect the perma-frost. Is that what it is? I probably have it all wrong, but I thought they needed approval for the international crossing but gov. doesn't like the overall plan so deny the crossing? Is this mostly public land in the U.S. or private? Can you explain the basic nuts and bolts of this thing, I'm not sure I understand and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Mostly people just scream that it's great or it sucks, without explaining the process of approvals needed. |
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. Yeah, okay. What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. |
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Quoted: What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. View Quote Holy shit dude. Stop, please. You are fucking talking out of your ass. You need to see to that. |
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Holy shit dude. Stop, please. You are fucking talking out of your ass. You need to see to that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. Holy shit dude. Stop, please. You are fucking talking out of your ass. You need to see to that. Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. |
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Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. Holy shit dude. Stop, please. You are fucking talking out of your ass. You need to see to that. Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. Dude, just admit it. You're a DU troll. Stop trying. |
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Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. Holy shit dude. Stop, please. You are fucking talking out of your ass. You need to see to that. Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. Please stop. You are opening your mouth to change feet. Please stop. |
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Quoted: What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. Yeah, okay. What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. |
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Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. View Quote Fuck that shit. Even if wasn't going to mean the first fucking new job, it's no goddamn business of the federal government to disallow it. |
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The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. View Quote Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. |
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Quoted: If the Dems who voted for it don't vote for it on an override, then they voted for it before they voted against it, which will destroy the narrative you say they are trying to create. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Senate only needs 5 votes to override LOL...They'll need a lot more than 5 to get 2/3 override. Why? Because the Dems in vulnerable States only voted for it because they know that Obongo will veto. That way, they can tell their constituents they voted for it. And when they don't vote for an override (and they won't), nobody will be the wiser and they can still say they "voted yes" for Keystone during reelection time. Its all one big game... If the Dems who voted for it don't vote for it on an override, then they voted for it before they voted against it, which will destroy the narrative you say they are trying to create. Your argument is correct but predicated on an intelligent voter base. You know, the same voter base that voted for Obama, TWICE. All a Dem has to do is state that he voted for the Keystone pipeline bill, which is a true statement,. He does not and will not mention he subsequently voted against the override...........People are stupid and politicians are well aware of that... |
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Quoted: Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. View Quote So you want to call me a shill, huh. Well, how 'bout that. Since you don't fucking know let me be the one that informs you on how this works. That trusted govt that you put soooo much trust in REGULATES US!!!! I know, right. They regulate us down to each and every weld on each and every pipeline that crosses this great nation. The govt. regulates how many hours we work, what we wear, how and when we wear it. The environmental impact study you put sooo much trust in was done by, you guessed it, THE SAME FUCKING PIPELINE COMPANY that you sooo like to hate. What, you think the govt was going to do the study themselves? You are a fucking tool. |
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So you want to call me a shill, huh. Well, how 'bout that. Since you don't fucking know let me be the one that informs you on how this works. That trusted govt that you put soooo much trust in REGULATES US!!!! I know, right. They regulate us down to each and every weld on each and every pipeline that crosses this great nation. The govt. regulates how many hours we work, what we wear, how and when we wear it. The environmental impact study you put sooo much trust in was done by, you guessed it, THE SAME FUCKING PIPELINE COMPANY that you sooo like to hate. What, you think the govt was going to do the study themselves? You are a fucking tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Even if it were 1000 jobs rather than the 35 estimated by the State Department, it still wouldn't be worth it. Also, I think I'll trust the environmental impact statement over some oil company shill. So you want to call me a shill, huh. Well, how 'bout that. Since you don't fucking know let me be the one that informs you on how this works. That trusted govt that you put soooo much trust in REGULATES US!!!! I know, right. They regulate us down to each and every weld on each and every pipeline that crosses this great nation. The govt. regulates how many hours we work, what we wear, how and when we wear it. The environmental impact study you put sooo much trust in was done by, you guessed it, THE SAME FUCKING PIPELINE COMPANY that you sooo like to hate. What, you think the govt was going to do the study themselves? You are a fucking tool. How nice of them to acknowledge the risks and thus (hopefully) preclude the building of the pipeline. Also it wasn't prepared exclusively by Transcanada, shill. There was significant input from a variety of agencies. |
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The pipeline going thru Ukraine is working out real well for them. If you you don't own whats in the pipe,you own a pipe.
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I really hope congress gets its shit together and forces this down the president's throat like he did to the american people with obamacare
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I would rather give the Canadians money than more money to the middle east. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. Amen, eh. |
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Quoted: Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. Okay, so lets say that the pipeline does, actually, "create very little benefit for Americans" (which is bullshit, but I digress.) Are you opposing of the idea solely due to this "fact"? |
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Okay, so lets say that the pipeline does, actually, "create very little benefit for Americans" (which is bullshit, but I digress.) Are you opposing of the idea solely due to this "fact"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. Okay, so lets say that the pipeline does, actually, "create very little benefit for Americans" (which is bullshit, but I digress.) Are you opposing of the idea solely due to this "fact"? That, along with the environmental risks and inevitable eminent domain issues. |
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Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. You're full of shit, or ignorant 20 year tentative contracts with refineries on the gulf prove otherwise. Try again. |
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Quoted: That, along with the environmental risks and inevitable eminent domain issues. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. Okay, so lets say that the pipeline does, actually, "create very little benefit for Americans" (which is bullshit, but I digress.) Are you opposing of the idea solely due to this "fact"? That, along with the environmental risks and inevitable eminent domain issues. I'm with you on the eminent domain issues. I don't like that shit either. The "environmental risks" are way overblown. |
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"I would rather give the Canadians money than more money to the middle east."
This I can agree with. I just wish it was all our profit. America for America. |
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You're full of shit, or ignorant 20 year tentative contracts with refineries on the gulf prove otherwise. Try again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. You're full of shit, or ignorant 20 year tentative contracts with refineries on the gulf prove otherwise. Try again. They are nearly at capacity as it is. http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_r3b_m.htm It'll have virtually no benefit for American citizens. |
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Quoted: You're full of shit, or ignorant 20 year tentative contracts with refineries on the gulf prove otherwise. Try again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. You're full of shit, or ignorant 20 year tentative contracts with refineries on the gulf prove otherwise. Try again. Apparently they weren't aware that there are a lot of members here who work in the gas/oil industry who know otherwise.
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35 permanent jobs created by the pipeline. LOL.
The PIPELINE won't create the jobs. It's the OIL FLOWING thru it that will create the JOBS on EACH END of the pipeline. |
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Quoted: Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. It's illegal to export American crude oil. http://www.thenation.com/article/180131/why-it-illegal-export-american-oil |
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Quoted: They are nearly at capacity as it is. http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_r3b_m.htm It'll have virtually no benefit for American citizens. View Quote You think that is "at capacity". Keep digging. While your at it, why don't you look up: Cushing and Osage Pipeline and Platte Pipeline. I mean since you are an oil field google expert now. |
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It's illegal to export American crude oil. http://www.thenation.com/article/180131/why-it-illegal-export-american-oil View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pipeline isn't empty. It's full of oil. Oil that is brought to refineries where Americans are employed to turn it into fuel so other Americans can use it to grow food and feed 7 billion fucking people. The oil is also turned into chemicals by other Americans in high paying jobs to make ammunition, plastics, and the cushions under your ass. Nobody could be so stupid to not know this. It has to be willful ignorance. Bull fucking shit. The majority of the crude will be exported, creating very little benefit for Americans. It's illegal to export American crude oil. http://www.thenation.com/article/180131/why-it-illegal-export-american-oil What was this about then? http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/01/sen_ed_markey.html |
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What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. Yeah, okay. What jobs does a pipeline create? Once it's built, there's very little maintenance. It benefits Canadian oil companies at the expense of American citizens. Nearly zero benefit for anyone who isn't a shareholder or executive of Transcanada. Many adverse effects in the form of contaminated water and property rights violations. |
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35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are being played on Keystone. Only the Canadians profit from this thing. I don't think that Canadians will be involved with the building and upkeep of the pipeline. Do you have any idea how many Americans this project will employ ? Not talking fast food restaurant wages either. Long term this project not only creates more American jobs , but more oil independence from the M.E. and 3rd world countries. Sorry if you voted for that retard that is in office but you get a pass for just being plain stupid. 35 permanent jobs according to the State Department. At the risk of contaminating one of our most important reservoirs. As well as eminent domain bullshit for people who don't want a pipeline on their land. You don't have the slightest fucking clue what you are talking about |
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