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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:28:45 AM EDT
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i do not care
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:29:47 AM EDT
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basement dwellers.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:31:16 AM EDT
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In large part, the Apollo Alliance.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:35:53 AM EDT
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my ex wife, because she wanted child support to keep coming
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:39:06 AM EDT
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Pajama boy.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:39:08 AM EDT
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A lazy child who wanted to stay in college on his parents dime forever. They made a movie about it called Van Wilder.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:41:53 AM EDT
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So, where did keeping children on health insurance until 26 years old come from? I mean, who first floated it ? Little Johnny's Mother. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:46:44 AM EDT
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Grandma can you bring me another grape soda.  |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:48:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:48:57 AM EDT
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democrats. They found that the demographic of 19-26 yr olds were most likely to vote democrat, so they fucked everyone by bumping up the age that parents have to keep their kids on health insurance. Same thing in NJ, they voted to make parents responsible to help pay for their kids college tuition until they're 24 or 26.
Socialism...paying for what you want with other people's money |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:49:12 AM EDT
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The recession.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:49:38 AM EDT
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A lazy child who wanted to stay in college on his parents dime forever. They made a movie about it called Van Wilder. This. All the post graduates who are extra smart and good and productive wanted it so if it's good enough for them... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:52:02 AM EDT
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So, where did keeping children on health insurance until 26 years old come from? I mean, who first floated it ? 4 years of College, 4 years of Medical/Law/Grad School. it allowed parents to keep their kids on the family plan as long as they were a full-time student without having to worry about them getting sick and not being able to cover care |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:53:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lazy child who wanted to stay in college on his parents dime forever. They made a movie about it called Van Wilder. Or someone who wants to become a doctor... I understand why they did it, as a lot of full time jobs now don't offer health insurance, so good luck finding a part time one that does that you can work at while balancing a full college course load.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:53:19 AM EDT
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Most 26 year olds can't afford Obamacare
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:54:47 AM EDT
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I'm not sure but it makes sense. Seems like it gives someone a chance to get a higher education and into a field to provide insurance for themselves.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:55:08 AM EDT
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I really don't see how this is a problem. It's being paid for either way.
How about sweating the other shit that's actually a problem from the ACA. There's no shortage of that. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:56:03 AM EDT
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OTOH, it's hard to think of a cheaper to insure segment of the population than 22-26 year olds, and many Fortune 2000 or so insurance plans have offered the coverage for decades.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:56:49 AM EDT
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They're children until they are 26...unless she needs an abortion at 14, and then she is a young woman.
Liberalism is a disease. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:56:56 AM EDT
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Census reports back in 2009 / 2010 when the ACA "obamacare" was being designed and implemented determined 18-24 y/o people were inadequately covered, so the 26 y'o limit was instituted to cover them beginning in Sept 2010.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2011/cpshealthins2011/ib.shtml |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:57:06 AM EDT
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I'm not sure exactly who is responsible for it, one of the architects of obamacare. I did learn something interesting about it the other night from my wife, she works for H&R Block. Let's say you have your child on your insurance and he/she is 21 years old and for some reason you lose your job or otherwise have to remove the child from the insurance. You then become responsible for the penalty. Same with that free community college our dear socialist is talking about, the price of the community college will be added to the parents income.
ETA: My daughter, 21 yo, is on my insurance. She does not have to be a full time student to get the medical but in order to get dental and vision coverage she needs to be a full time student. Just throwing that out there. Maybe it's depending on the insurance company, I'm not really sure. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:57:52 AM EDT
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I'm not sure but it makes sense. Seems like it gives someone a chance to get a higher education and into a field to provide insurance for themselves. A lot of folks here can't seem to comprehend the concept of investing in your kids / the next generation. It's "you're 18, get out of the house!" 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:58:38 AM EDT
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I was cut off my parents' health insurance at 18 and spent almost a decade thereafter without it because I was poor a dumb ass. Luckily I had no major medical concerns in my 20s!
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:01:49 PM EDT
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26?
That's the age they graduate after 6 years of community college and 2 years of state or university. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really don't see how this is a problem. It's being paid for either way. How about sweating the other shit that's actually a problem from the ACA. There's no shortage of that. So the government considers people under 27 to be legally "children", and their parents should be responsible for their healthcare. Why not raise the legal age for buying alcoholic beverages to 27? Why not raise the age for joining the military up to 27? In my view, parents should wean their kids to be responsible adults waayyyy before age 27. If someone's still dependent on their parents at that age, they are going to have dependency issues for the rest of their life. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:08:04 PM EDT
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Or someone who wants to become a doctor... I understand why they did it, as a lot of full time jobs now don't offer health insurance, so good luck finding a part time one that does that you can work at while balancing a full college course load. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A lazy child who wanted to stay in college on his parents dime forever. They made a movie about it called Van Wilder. Or someone who wants to become a doctor... I understand why they did it, as a lot of full time jobs now don't offer health insurance, so good luck finding a part time one that does that you can work at while balancing a full college course load. A lot of colleges offered some kind of student plan. Now that 26 is the new normal expect those poor 28-30 year olds to demand coverage. Life is hard so let's make a law. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:12:25 PM EDT
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A lot of folks here can't seem to comprehend the concept of investing in your kids / the next generation. It's "you're 18, get out of the house!" http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=42757 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure but it makes sense. Seems like it gives someone a chance to get a higher education and into a field to provide insurance for themselves. A lot of folks here can't seem to comprehend the concept of investing in your kids / the next generation. It's "you're 18, get out of the house!" http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=42757 Totally agree. That old time schtick about being an independent adult failed miserably at giving us quality productive adults. Now finally we can begin producing a group of people who look to the government to solve every problem of their lives as intended by the founders. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:13:57 PM EDT
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26 years also means a .mil veteran off a four year enlistment out of high school would be covered while taking advantage of GI bill funded education.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:14:19 PM EDT
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So, where did keeping children on health insurance until 26 years old come from? I mean, who first floated it ? The cadre of 25 year olds that staffed the Obama presidential campaign. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:15:26 PM EDT
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I love how the .gov is all about do as I say, not as I do.
For example, Tricare is fully ACA compliant, yet kicks kids off after age 21 unless they are FT students. Yup, the .gov writes exemptions for itself. Likely to push those kids into Obamacare to bump up the ocare numbers to call it a 'success.'  |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:19:43 PM EDT
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Totally agree. That old time schtick about being an independent adult failed miserably at giving us quality productive adults. Now finally we can begin producing a group of people who look to the government to solve every problem of their lives as intended by the founders. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure but it makes sense. Seems like it gives someone a chance to get a higher education and into a field to provide insurance for themselves. A lot of folks here can't seem to comprehend the concept of investing in your kids / the next generation. It's "you're 18, get out of the house!" http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=42757 Totally agree. That old time schtick about being an independent adult failed miserably at giving us quality productive adults. Now finally we can begin producing a group of people who look to the government to solve every problem of their lives as intended by the founders. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Right. Getting your kid an education and not saddling him with debt is all about making him dependent on government to solve his problems. You got it all figured out. Nothing gets by you. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:25:39 PM EDT
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I was 18 in college and on my own
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:26:49 PM EDT
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because the .gov has no expectation of them being able to gain normal employment. pure and simple. encourage them to go to college and delay the inevitable.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:29:20 PM EDT
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I think you should be able to keep anyone on your insurance policy for as long as you want as long as you're willing to pay for it and the company is willing to insure them.
Edit: By that I mean, my dad is fine with me staying on his health insurance. It's cost him the same whether I'm on it or not, so he doesn't mind helping me out. I don't think it should mandatory that parents keep their kids on until X age, or that they shouldn't be allowed to have them past X age either. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:30:10 PM EDT
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I was 18 in college and on my own So? So was I. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:37:51 PM EDT
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I was 18 in college and on my own So? So was I. That is the way it was, until the Socialists came here. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:47:02 PM EDT
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That is the way it was, until the Socialists came here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was 18 in college and on my own So? So was I. That is the way it was, until the Socialists came here. I'm doing OK, but I routinely meet people younger than me who were light years ahead of me by 26 - because their parents had the resources and were able to invest in them. It's one of the key cultural differences I've observed between the upper middle classes and the lower middle/working classes. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:52:39 PM EDT
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democrats. They found that the demographic of 19-26 yr olds were most likely to vote democrat, so they fucked everyone by bumping up the age that parents have to keep their kids on health insurance. Same thing in NJ, they voted to make parents responsible to help pay for their kids college tuition until they're 24 or 26. Socialism...paying for what you want with other people's money Got any links ? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:52:45 PM EDT
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So the government considers people under 27 to be legally "children", and their parents should be responsible for their healthcare. Why not raise the legal age for buying alcoholic beverages to 27? Why not raise the age for joining the military up to 27? In my view, parents should wean their kids to be responsible adults waayyyy before age 27. If someone's still dependent on their parents at that age, they are going to have dependency issues for the rest of their life. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really don't see how this is a problem. It's being paid for either way. How about sweating the other shit that's actually a problem from the ACA. There's no shortage of that. So the government considers people under 27 to be legally "children", and their parents should be responsible for their healthcare. Why not raise the legal age for buying alcoholic beverages to 27? Why not raise the age for joining the military up to 27? In my view, parents should wean their kids to be responsible adults waayyyy before age 27. If someone's still dependent on their parents at that age, they are going to have dependency issues for the rest of their life. That's not what's happening here though. Their parents are not responsible for their health care, but they can keep them on their insurance plan. As in they're not prohibited from doing so. What's the big damn deal? Are you saying parents should not have the choice on how they want to help support their kids after an age decided by... I don't know... you? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:57:04 PM EDT
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1978
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:59:40 PM EDT
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Keep voters dependent as long as possible.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:00:39 PM EDT
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So, where did keeping children on health insurance until 26 years old come from? I mean, who first floated it ? It was written into Obama Care….. it is part of Obama Care. Literally hundreds of people most of whom are not / were not elected politicians wrote Obama Care. Are you asking who's idea it was? Who the hell knows. Obama and his people have always cultivated the young vote so free birth control, abortions, extended free health care coverage, etc. are all freebies used to get that young vote and capture the heart and minds of the brain dead through freebies payed for by the tax payers. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got any links ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: democrats. They found that the demographic of 19-26 yr olds were most likely to vote democrat, so they fucked everyone by bumping up the age that parents have to keep their kids on health insurance. Same thing in NJ, they voted to make parents responsible to help pay for their kids college tuition until they're 24 or 26. Socialism...paying for what you want with other people's money Got any links ? Romney 2 – Do NOT allow insurance companies to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. Also, allow children to stay on their parent’s insurance until age 26 – Romney believes that insurance companies should not be allowed to deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions as long as the individual maintains continuous coverage. Long before Romney became governor of Massachusetts, Massachusetts had already passed a law called "guaranteed issue” which bans discrimination of people with pre-existing conditions. The problem with "guaranteed issue” however, is that many people would wait until they were sick before they applied for insurance coverage, thus raising the costs of insurance for everyone. Because people were gaming the system by waiting until they got sick before they applied for health insurance, Romney believes that individuals should show evidence of prior coverage in order to have "guaranteed issue.” Showing evidence of prior coverage would restrict an individual’s ability to game the system, but would also allow for people to be assured that they can purchase good health insurance without fear of being discriminated against if they have a pre-existing condition.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:05:14 PM EDT
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That's not what's happening here though. Their parents are not responsible for their health care, but they can keep them on their insurance plan. As in they're not prohibited from doing so. What's the big damn deal? Are you saying parents should not have the choice on how they want to help support their kids after an age decided by... I don't know... you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really don't see how this is a problem. It's being paid for either way. How about sweating the other shit that's actually a problem from the ACA. There's no shortage of that. So the government considers people under 27 to be legally "children", and their parents should be responsible for their healthcare. Why not raise the legal age for buying alcoholic beverages to 27? Why not raise the age for joining the military up to 27? In my view, parents should wean their kids to be responsible adults waayyyy before age 27. If someone's still dependent on their parents at that age, they are going to have dependency issues for the rest of their life. That's not what's happening here though. Their parents are not responsible for their health care, but they can keep them on their insurance plan. As in they're not prohibited from doing so. What's the big damn deal? Are you saying parents should not have the choice on how they want to help support their kids after an age decided by... I don't know... you? Agreed…… and 26 is such an arbitrary age. Why not 50? Better yet, parents should be able to keep any children they have on their insurance policies until said parent dies and the policy expires. At that point, any taxpayers left can pick up the bill. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:05:33 PM EDT
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Thread overboard.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:07:55 PM EDT
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ObamaCare.... I was only allowed to stay on my parents plan until 22 and that was only if I was a full time student. this was 8 years ago |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:08:28 PM EDT
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Most 26 year olds can't afford Obamacare Does not compute. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ObamaCare.... I was only allowed to stay on my parents plan until 22 and that was only if I was a full time student. this was 8 years ago Could you have bought that same exact plan on your own if you wanted to? Tying insurance to employment is bullshit. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:18:27 PM EDT
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not sure where it came from - but suspect many who go to grad school don't get out till >24.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:20:04 PM EDT
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So, where did keeping children on health insurance until 26 years old come from? I mean, who first floated it ? The insurance companies. |
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