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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:59:47 AM EDT
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I've been doing a hell of a lot of research on grenades this past week so I can add the correct markings. I have 3 dummies right now (M67, Mk 2 Pineapple, and a 40MM HE round) I just need an M26 Lemon grenade to round off the collection. I discovered I have the wrong fuse on the Pineapple, though. It has an M213 fuse from a M67. I'll post a pic when I get home. Dont know if this helps Grenade.Hand Frag M67 with lot # underneath 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:00:58 AM EDT
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Why doesn't anyone sell the actual empty body of the M67? Is it controlled?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:02:16 AM EDT
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Dont know if this helps Grenade.Hand Frag M67 with lot # underneath http://s4.postimg.org/ozsdulxsc/OIF_08_09_042.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been doing a hell of a lot of research on grenades this past week so I can add the correct markings. I have 3 dummies right now (M67, Mk 2 Pineapple, and a 40MM HE round) I just need an M26 Lemon grenade to round off the collection. I discovered I have the wrong fuse on the Pineapple, though. It has an M213 fuse from a M67. I'll post a pic when I get home. Dont know if this helps Grenade.Hand Frag M67 with lot # underneath http://s4.postimg.org/ozsdulxsc/OIF_08_09_042.jpg you can add your own touches too 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:03:03 AM EDT
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Why doesn't anyone sell the actual empty body of the M67? Is it controlled? I believe there are bodies available. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:04:33 AM EDT
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I'm not sure if I have the willpower to own a live grenade.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:07:01 AM EDT
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I did not need to find this thread. So. Much. Win.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:07:18 AM EDT
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this thread makes me happy.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:08:48 AM EDT
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this thread makes me happy. absofruitly 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:30:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:36:25 AM EDT
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and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:42:01 AM EDT
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Lots of grenade pics w/markings:
http://www.lexpev.nl/grenades/americas/unitedstates/m33m59m67m68.html |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:59:14 AM EDT
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3 pages and nobody has setup a go fund me?
in a hour we could pay you for that one and the next one as long as video will be promised
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:13:14 PM EDT
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3 pages and nobody has setup a go fund me? in a hour we could pay you for that one and the next one as long as video will be promised Frags really are that exciting. Nothing like the movies. Just a loud bang with a bit of dust and shrapnel unless you throw it in a washing machine apparently. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has nobody on this website ever read Small Arms Review??? They would eat that shit up!! Before or after they reported it to their handlers at the BATFE? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:56:06 PM EDT
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no cap in it
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:02:40 PM EDT
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If you put them in a sack and wear them as a cod piece....You'd be awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you ask them if you could shoulder it? You should ask them and have 5000 other people ask them. I can shoulder it, I can conceal it, hell, I can put two of them in a leather sack and wear it as a cod piece. If you put them in a sack and wear them as a cod piece....You'd be awesome. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:03:56 PM EDT
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Before or after they reported it to their handlers at the BATFE? Exactly. Snitches...... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:11:43 PM EDT
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Do you have to inform the ATF prior to blowing it up as a heads up or only inform them once it has been blown up and no longer exists?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:22:43 PM EDT
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I never considered using a LE filler that's stored separately to avoid having to get an FEL and magazine. This is awesome! Me either, and now I want to Form 1 one. How many college kids can say they have a legal hand grenade?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:25:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have to inform the ATF prior to blowing it up as a heads up or only inform them once it has been blown up and no longer exists? ATF- "You did what?" |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:26:11 PM EDT
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Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
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Made by Rearden Armament, Jacksonville, NC. XM67A1, SN 001. Collectible someday? Pictures taken with a potato: http://oi57.tinypic.com/j5lbwi.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2nc17r7.jpg I want to take it out and blow it up so bad...but damn that would be an expensive ($285) thrill. and this is why I will never own one. I'd give myself a month tops till I blew something up. Three days. I'd make it three fucking days.
I'd last 25 minutes after my Form 1 came back, because that's how long it takes to drive to my land.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:36:00 PM EDT
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I want a .50 caliber non-NFA mortar 
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These are cooler than the Form 1 60mm mortars  I dunno. Clearly you've not dropped a round down my tube.  http://youtu.be/fxyr8mbphYs
I want a .50 caliber non-NFA mortar
(not that 60mm isn't cool )Muzzle loader with non fixed ammo and black powder like a civil war mortar is non NFA. Use a musket cap and a trigger mechanism like the new 60mm mortar has and you have a non NFA mortar. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have to inform the ATF prior to blowing it up as a heads up or only inform them once it has been blown up and no longer exists? The engraved spoon still exists... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:43:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:48:02 PM EDT
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God Bless America
You fine gentleman are what it's all about |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:50:44 PM EDT
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SN 001? Somebody Form 1'd a DD. $200 stamp $5 dummy greanade $80 of good time. My question is do you have to call the ATF after you "use" (explode) the grenade and tell them that the form 1'd DD is now demilled?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My question is do you have to call the ATF after you "use" (explode) the grenade and tell them that the form 1'd DD is now demilled? If you didn't cut it into 4 pieces w/ 3 torch cuts, it wasn't demilled.
Would it be possible to build a grenade body, essentially out of wire, with each perforation holding a BB, such that the body of the grenade is NOT destroyed on detonation, only deformed? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:54:27 PM EDT
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The engraved spoon still exists... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:00:30 PM EDT
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Welcome to the bandwagon! My name is Wingnut, I'll be your tour guide to the wonder that is boutique ordnance. Repeat after me: "This is not an IED, it is an artisinal explosive device" Here's mine before I got the spoon painted: http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a595/Wingnut116ACW/IMG_20141018_163534_079_zpsksz2kzgw.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does one get a grenade for the cost of $285? I would buy at that price. Cost breakdown: Tax Stamp $200 (This step included a number of letters back and forth with ATF, and coordination with both the explosives and NFA branch to show that I wouldn't be in violation of any laws.) Fuze ~$25 (if you can find one- some are classed with UN numbers that make them explosives regulated on their own, though there have been some manufactured as "articles pyrotechnic" and exempted from you needing an FEL to get one), or if you are incredibly stupid OR very confident, reload your own. Proper filler ~$20 (which I store separately from the grenade, or I would need to meet federal storage requirements and need an FEL), in this case EC Blank Powder as was used in WWII MkII Defensive Grenades (the "pineapple" grenade) NFA marking engraving $25 Make a mold out of a trainer or dummy and cast your own body $10 So...$285+/-. ETA I need to give props where it is due, Wingnut116ACW inspired me to do this build. He was the first guy I know of that did I form 1 for a frag. Hmmmm so you can have these conversation pieces that could be made functional if you wanted too? I am thinking this could be the next sigbrace bandwagon no? Welcome to the bandwagon! My name is Wingnut, I'll be your tour guide to the wonder that is boutique ordnance. Repeat after me: "This is not an IED, it is an artisinal explosive device" Here's mine before I got the spoon painted: http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a595/Wingnut116ACW/IMG_20141018_163534_079_zpsksz2kzgw.jpg I really want to tackle this project. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:03:47 PM EDT
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This needs to be a thing
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:09:15 PM EDT
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I never considered using a LE filler that's stored separately to avoid having to get an FEL and magazine. This is awesome! Smokeless powder isn't really a low explosive. Nitrocellulose has a higher detonation velocity than TNT and nitroglycerine has a slightly higher detonation velocity than nitrocellulose. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Frags really are that exciting. Nothing like the movies. Just a loud bang with a bit of dust and shrapnel unless you throw it in a washing machine apparently. http://youtu.be/z9Bk-MtwhagQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 3 pages and nobody has setup a go fund me? in a hour we could pay you for that one and the next one as long as video will be promised Frags really are that exciting. Nothing like the movies. Just a loud bang with a bit of dust and shrapnel unless you throw it in a washing machine apparently. http://youtu.be/z9Bk-Mtwhag |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:20:30 PM EDT
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If you didn't cut it into 4 pieces w/ 3 torch cuts, it wasn't demilled.
Would it be possible to build a grenade body, essentially out of wire, with each perforation holding a BB, such that the body of the grenade is NOT destroyed on detonation, only deformed? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My question is do you have to call the ATF after you "use" (explode) the grenade and tell them that the form 1'd DD is now demilled? If you didn't cut it into 4 pieces w/ 3 torch cuts, it wasn't demilled.
Would it be possible to build a grenade body, essentially out of wire, with each perforation holding a BB, such that the body of the grenade is NOT destroyed on detonation, only deformed? Interesting thought. Having an inner body that would withstand and "vent" the explosion, and an outer shell that would actually rupture and frag. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:23:47 PM EDT
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If it is any consolation, my next project was due to be a modular landmine system but the wife put the kibosh on another ordnance project requiring outlay of time, effort, and money. Seems she didn't think the grenade project was practical
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:28:40 PM EDT
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Fister in NC.... watch out for CID bruh. they busted up several hand grenade smuggling rings over the years I was in Division.
also, did you buy it at Phase V? Those dudes always have shady ass shit for sale. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:41:00 PM EDT
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If I owned that, it would have exploded before I even got the chance to make a thread bragging about my badass grenade.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:44:09 PM EDT
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Fister in NC.... watch out for CID bruh. they busted up several hand grenade smuggling rings over the years I was in Division. also, did you buy it at Phase V? Those dudes always have shady ass shit for sale. I bought it from a licensed DD manufacturer outside NC, on the up and up, and have email traffic and a receipt. :) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:48:04 PM EDT
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"I blew up a pile of dogshit with it." ATF- "You did what?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you have to inform the ATF prior to blowing it up as a heads up or only inform them once it has been blown up and no longer exists? ATF- "You did what?" 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:50:35 PM EDT
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Put it in the microwave lmao I remember seeing screenshots of that thread |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:57:58 PM EDT
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You're awesome if you serialized and engraved the pin. Spoon would be more useful. Then all you have to do is "repair"
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:15:01 PM EDT
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Could something similar be done with a flashbang with a similar fuze?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:34:31 PM EDT
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use it on the phone used to take the pics....just don't use that phone to video it....we want to see the results.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:35:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Smokeless powder isn't really a low explosive. Nitrocellulose has a higher detonation velocity than TNT and nitroglycerine has a slightly higher detonation velocity than nitrocellulose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I never considered using a LE filler that's stored separately to avoid having to get an FEL and magazine. This is awesome! Smokeless powder isn't really a low explosive. Nitrocellulose has a higher detonation velocity than TNT and nitroglycerine has a slightly higher detonation velocity than nitrocellulose. The best bet is binary like Kinepack. Which is pretty easy to obtain, just not from the trademark holder.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:58:19 PM EDT
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Now that would be an interesting case if you used that in a self defense situation. Hey guys, it's registered and if deadly force is authorized then the manner used is of no consequence right?......right? You'd be cleared but that would be national news all day long.
Breaking news, two home invaders were killed today when the home owner threw a fragmentation grenade down his stairs after hearing a commotion.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:18:26 PM EDT
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Smokeless powder isn't really a low explosive. Nitrocellulose has a higher detonation velocity than TNT and nitroglycerine has a slightly higher detonation velocity than nitrocellulose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never considered using a LE filler that's stored separately to avoid having to get an FEL and magazine. This is awesome! Smokeless powder isn't really a low explosive. Nitrocellulose has a higher detonation velocity than TNT and nitroglycerine has a slightly higher detonation velocity than nitrocellulose. But it isn't easy to get it to detonate, that's the point. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:27:32 PM EDT
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RockHard13F/Wingnut116ACW
I guess I'm confused here. How is it you're able to legally fill your grenades? Use of EC Blank Powder as mentioned in this thread or black powder would require an explosives license? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:31:57 PM EDT
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RockHard13F/Wingnut116ACW I guess I'm confused here. How is it you're able to legally fill your grenades? Use of EC Blank Powder as mentioned in this thread or black powder would require an explosives license? I wonder if Tannerite can be used...
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:35:55 PM EDT
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So now you have something to look at and lock up
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:36:47 PM EDT
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RockHard13F/Wingnut116ACW I guess I'm confused here. How is it you're able to legally fill your grenades? Use of EC Blank Powder as mentioned in this thread or black powder would require an explosives license? Use of any binary explosive filler would require a Federal Explosives License ONLY for storage or transportation. Storage of black powder or any smokeless powder would fall outside the storage requirements as they are specifically exempt in quantities found in most households. In short, it only becomes an explosive DD when it is filled at the site of use. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:39:49 PM EDT
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But it isn't easy to get it to detonate, that's the point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never considered using a LE filler that's stored separately to avoid having to get an FEL and magazine. This is awesome! Smokeless powder isn't really a low explosive. Nitrocellulose has a higher detonation velocity than TNT and nitroglycerine has a slightly higher detonation velocity than nitrocellulose. But it isn't easy to get it to detonate, that's the point. Smokeless powder is easier to detonate than C4. Just hitting a few grains on a steel surface with a hammer will detonate it, you can't do that with C4. |
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