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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He hit deer, as in....it was an unavoidable accident. Why is that hard for people to understand? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How much does the "little consumer vs big business" mentality play into these situations? If the scenario involved a small mom 'n pop type operation and the restitution demanded would put them on the brink of bankruptcy, would as many posters hold the same opinion? Where does that line lie? The OP deserves to be made 100% whole, due to the dealership letting morons fuck with his car outside terms of the agreement. Not OP's fault that the dealership had a shitbag employee, or had lax rules. He hit deer, as in....it was an unavoidable accident. Why is that hard for people to understand? On his way back from Community College it seems...
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:17:32 AM EDT
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Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes?
Any tard that happens to be employed there? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:33:32 AM EDT
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On his way back from Community College it seems... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much does the "little consumer vs big business" mentality play into these situations? If the scenario involved a small mom 'n pop type operation and the restitution demanded would put them on the brink of bankruptcy, would as many posters hold the same opinion? Where does that line lie? The OP deserves to be made 100% whole, due to the dealership letting morons fuck with his car outside terms of the agreement. Not OP's fault that the dealership had a shitbag employee, or had lax rules. He hit deer, as in....it was an unavoidable accident. Why is that hard for people to understand? On his way back from Community College it seems... Was there a point somewhere in your comment? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:34:50 AM EDT
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Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes? Any tard that happens to be employed there? Good point. I looked up his driving record. 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:40:05 AM EDT
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:41:07 AM EDT
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:46:26 AM EDT
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Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Wow, whenever I interview for a job the first thing they wanna see is my driving record, because they know if they can't insure me then everything else is a waste of time. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:48:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wFp8aoW.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes? Any tard that happens to be employed there? Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wFp8aoW.jpg holy shiet, that tech is a bad driver
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:55:11 AM EDT
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Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Jeebus. (Knocks on wood.) I haven't had a ticket in 35 years. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:55:38 AM EDT
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:58:35 AM EDT
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Good gawd........a blind person can drive better than that.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:01:51 PM EDT
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Thanks I remember you : ) Any more enemy whistlepigs on the prowl over at safe1's ?  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jim D'Amico on 615. He's your ambulance chaser and gets results. Thanks I remember you : ) Any more enemy whistlepigs on the prowl over at safe1's ? Correction, It's Mitch D'Amico. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:03:59 PM EDT
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Correction, It's Mitch D'Amico. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jim D'Amico on 615. He's your ambulance chaser and gets results. Thanks I remember you : ) Any more enemy whistlepigs on the prowl over at safe1's ? Correction, It's Mitch D'Amico. Got it. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:07:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Wow! That is wrong! |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:07:52 PM EDT
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Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Was it the service manager or a tech? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:10:32 PM EDT
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Do we need to gang bang the dealerships facebook and yelp pages for you? Seems like a little pressure couldn't hurt at this point. ETA: Wow! See above, especially after seeing his driving record. Someone should post all that on their facebook, dealerrater.com and Google "reviews" section so it doesn't get edited by the page managers. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:11:56 PM EDT
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I just got a call from my insurance company. They closed the claim. The dealer's insurance company is taking the claim. This sounds like good news. I'm surprised the dealer hasn't put you in a car by now without waiting on the insurance company. Those court records might tune up his sense of urgency. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:14:34 PM EDT
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Was it the service manager or a tech? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Was it the service manager or a tech? The driver's offical title was service advisor. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:18:15 PM EDT
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Jim D'Amico on 615. He's your ambulance chaser and gets results. Thanks I remember you : ) Any more enemy whistlepigs on the prowl over at safe1's ? Correction, It's Mitch D'Amico. Slightly off topic, are you and your son coming over to sight in his build today? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:18:23 PM EDT
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Ya'll need to be posting on the dealerships facebook and yelps!
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:20:07 PM EDT
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Ya'll need to be posting on the dealerships facebook and yelps! https://www.facebook.com/AdventureSubaruOhio/reviews?ref=page_internal http://www.yelp.com/biz/halpert-subaru-painesville http://www.dealerrater.com/dealer/Adventure-Subaru-review-35992/ No comments on this local writeup |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:21:50 PM EDT
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lawyer up and take it to them
make sure you get some stock out of the deal too for good measure 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:22:31 PM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:22:36 PM EDT
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We had a tech here for a short time that had 2 dwi convictions. He had a conditional license. Dealership insurance said as long as he wasn't driving them after work it was fine. It didn't take long and he did some stupid shit again that got him arrested and that was the end of that. Too bad really bc when he was sober he was a hell of a tech. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens more than you think.(someone with a bad drivers record working at a dealership). With how hard it is to find decent techs if someone has the abilities and the training exceptions are made for sure.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:23:27 PM EDT
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The driver's offical title was service advisor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Was it the service manager or a tech? The driver's offical title was service advisor. Usually...the person driving the car is the Tech that drew the RO for that car.....so the person making the repair can evaluate the vehicle.....not a service adviser. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:25:12 PM EDT
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Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CvkrZYP.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes? Any tard that happens to be employed there? Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CvkrZYP.jpg 
Wow! .....Just wow! I wonder how many of those wrecks and violations were in other customers cars Any idea how long has this tard has been employed there? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:25:35 PM EDT
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Ya'll need to be posting on the dealerships facebook and yelps! Here you go: Adventure Subaru Painesville Facebook The reviews are in! |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:25:49 PM EDT
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Usually...the person driving the car is the Tech that drew the RO for that car.....so the person making the repair can evaluate the vehicle.....not a service adviser. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. Yes, I have it verified that he was the driver. I don't have access to a state database, so there may be more. This was just 3 local courts in the area. Was it the service manager or a tech? The driver's offical title was service advisor. Usually...the person driving the car is the Tech that drew the RO for that car.....so the person making the repair can evaluate the vehicle.....not a service adviser. Why the hate, the guy probably didn't have a current license or a vehicle with current tags. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:28:09 PM EDT
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Jesus. Do you think deer collect data on automobiles before they jump in front of them? Or do you think people decide to run into deer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Demand a new one. Don't let them fix it. Lawyer up if need be. Who in the bloody blue fuck crashes a customer car into a fucking deer? How would you be test driving a car long enough for this to happen? I would get a lawyer RFN and sic him on their insurance adjuster. Jesus. Do you think deer collect data on automobiles before they jump in front of them? Or do you think people decide to run into deer? I've got a fantastic deal on spanish prisoners for you if you think he actually hit a deer. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:52:22 PM EDT
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First Post!!!
OK seriously, they are lying to you big time. That damage is not from a deer. I've been in EMS for a long time and have worked a LOT of deer vs vehicle wrecks. Look at the way the hood is wrinkled up on the passenger side. That was run under another larger, taller vehicle or something like that. A car that short, the deer would have been thrown over the hood into the windshield and your damage would most likely be there. Theres no way that a deer would cause damage like that, not that I've ever seen. Good that you have pics and video. Next time make sure you have a phone or something on that can record your conversation with the dealership. If you can catch them in a lie on camera or audio, it will go a long way toward discrediting them if you have to go to court. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:05:00 PM EDT
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Dealer insurance will want to fix it. They aren't going to give you a new car. Op gonna get hosed.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:06:11 PM EDT
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So let me get this straight, according to "their" (adventure Subaru ) rules, hypothetically a person could test drive one of their new cars, beat the ever living dogshit out of it, not be held responsible?
Lawyer up, contact all the local news outlets OP. once again, best of luck. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:09:24 PM EDT
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There are some free phone call recording apps
It appears Ohio is in fact a single party notification state This means you should be recording your conversations without even telling them you are doing so May even be legal to post the good stuff to YouTubes |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:14:53 PM EDT
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In for the outcome.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:22:12 PM EDT
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lawyer up and take it to them make sure you get some stock out of the deal too for good measure Ohio is a one party state. Record ALL conversations with dealership and representatives. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:48:02 PM EDT
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Are they replacing it?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:48:25 PM EDT
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Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CvkrZYP.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes? Any tard that happens to be employed there? Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CvkrZYP.jpg Like I fucking said, bet that "deer" looked alot like a dumpster. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:49:21 PM EDT
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^^^^ Is that all from the same person that was driving your car? I don't see how they got him covered under there insurance policy. So this would be outside the scope of the agreement OP had with the dealership. Boom. New fucking car. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:50:01 PM EDT
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes. But you have to believe him man, he said it was a deer. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:50:20 PM EDT
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Those pictures look really CLEAN to be a Deer Strike. No hair, gallons of blood, gallons of feces splashed all over the place and on the windshield. It looks like they probably hit something solid, like the back of a waste management truck. Is there an actual police report of the strike? Maybe they hit something on the actual lot. I do not put anything past them. Jesus Christ the OP has already posted a video that shows Deer hair in the Condenser. Get with the times. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:54:42 PM EDT
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes. But you have to believe him man, he said it was a deer. Based on the hair in the video, I'd say it was a deer. A very small deer, hit at high speed, so that when it was hit, it fucked the front end up and then missed the windshield. I'd be curious if the last top speed was recorded with a timestamp somewhere in the car's smart bits. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:55:34 PM EDT
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lawyer up and take it to them make sure you get some stock out of the deal too for good measure Ohio is a one party state. Record ALL conversations with dealership and representatives. Ohio's wiretap statute only applies to a third party recording/intercepting a communication. Parties to a conversation can record each other. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:56:28 PM EDT
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Based on the hair in the video, I'd say it was a deer. A very small deer, hit at high speed, so that when it was hit, it fucked the front end up and then missed the windshield. I'd be curious if the last top speed was recorded with a timestamp somewhere in the car's smart bits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes. But you have to believe him man, he said it was a deer. Based on the hair in the video, I'd say it was a deer. A very small deer, hit at high speed, so that when it was hit, it fucked the front end up and then missed the windshield. I'd be curious if the last top speed was recorded with a timestamp somewhere in the car's smart bits. I don't trust pieces of shit that hit/skip. Not like you can't smear deer hair and shit all over a wreck. The tech has a history of hitting shit and driving poorly, and leaving accidents. It's almost always what it looks like. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:57:31 PM EDT
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I don't trust pieces of shit that hit/skip. Not like you can't smear deer hair and shit all over a wreck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes. But you have to believe him man, he said it was a deer. Based on the hair in the video, I'd say it was a deer. A very small deer, hit at high speed, so that when it was hit, it fucked the front end up and then missed the windshield. I'd be curious if the last top speed was recorded with a timestamp somewhere in the car's smart bits. I don't trust pieces of shit that hit/skip. Not like you can't smear deer hair and shit all over a wreck. I don't trust people like that either, but it's not as if you can get a packet of deer bits at the Circle K. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 1:58:45 PM EDT
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I would be curious as fuck,
I would contact the tow service (or call all in the area) and find out where it happened unless he didnt call a tow, in that case the car probably overhaeted at the minumum and I would want to know Also where was car towed from in relation to school and his home (was it a joyride?) I would have to know these variables... when I hit deer, I check out my truck and finish off the deer if needed and just continue on (they changed regs on animals hit on road for a food source and dont have time for that shit) NOW IF I was working and that happened I would make a point to document everything to alienate my self from blame, i would cll police for a record of it and make sure everyone knew it wasn't my fault...CYA good luck op |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:03:21 PM EDT
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Car dealers are all trash as far as I can tell. Sorry for the situation OP. Hope you get it resolved.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:04:50 PM EDT
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Good to see that their insurance is possibly paying out and getting you another car. Best of luck. I'll be following this.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Car dealers are all trash as far as I can tell. Sorry for the situation OP. Hope you get it resolved. Good think there are multiple Subaru dealers around me as some of them are terrible. The closest Subaru dealer to me in Bedford Hts. has a good parts department but the sales group and service dept. are some of the worst I have dealt with. I don't know if the OP will go to another Subaru dealer but the one's in Brunswick, Wickliffe, and Akron/Stow are pretty good. I would take nothing less than a new vehicle from them and would definitely lawyer up if necessary. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:13:53 PM EDT
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I don't trust pieces of shit that hit/skip. Not like you can't smear deer hair and shit all over a wreck. The tech has a history of hitting shit and driving poorly, and leaving accidents. It's almost always what it looks like. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes. But you have to believe him man, he said it was a deer. Based on the hair in the video, I'd say it was a deer. A very small deer, hit at high speed, so that when it was hit, it fucked the front end up and then missed the windshield. I'd be curious if the last top speed was recorded with a timestamp somewhere in the car's smart bits. I don't trust pieces of shit that hit/skip. Not like you can't smear deer hair and shit all over a wreck. The tech has a history of hitting shit and driving poorly, and leaving accidents. It's almost always what it looks like. Because everyone walks around carrying deer hair and blood with them just incase a situation arises. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:19:04 PM EDT
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I also see multiple crashes in there. Hit skip, Failure to yield, and assured clear distance are of course all citations issued for crashes. But you have to believe him man, he said it was a deer. Based on the hair in the video, I'd say it was a deer. A very small deer, hit at high speed, so that when it was hit, it fucked the front end up and then missed the windshield. I'd be curious if the last top speed was recorded with a timestamp somewhere in the car's smart bits. I don't trust pieces of shit that hit/skip. Not like you can't smear deer hair and shit all over a wreck. I don't trust people like that either, but it's not as if you can get a packet of deer bits at the Circle K. Is it in fact deer hair? |
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