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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:36:21 AM EDT
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That interview was all I needed to know. He should hire some engineers, acoustic scientists (or whatever the proper name is for them), etc. and stick to capitalizing the company and being its "wow" factor. But...he has a Mac Pro and you can see sound with it. 
Like I said, I'm actually embarrassed for the guy. I really am. He doesn't know how ridiculous he sounds, or why. It's not unlike somebody like me entering the custom motorcycle and fabrication business, using my expertise as a network engineer to validate every aspect of my (predictable) pile of fail. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:29:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:See, you got to let the gases sort of like, do their own thing, man. It's like, you see a wave on an o-scope? That's what it looks like in real life, so obviously the thing to do is build a little house that the sound gases feel comfortable in, hoping maybe they'll want to hang out for a while, eat your Doritos and smoke your weed while trying to eye fuck your girlfriend. I lived in Long Beach for two years. You have no idea how accurate this is. Like, you like, like you know what I mean? The sound uhhh modules like, the thing is, they move like a cloud. But it's sorta like a tapered cloud. Like, the thing is that I figured if you make the silencer like include like the entire sound cloud, it'll quiet the BANG. You know? Dude. Man. You know what I'm saying. It's really simple if you just understand like basic mechanical physical like cloud sounds. So, you know. That's how I did it, bro. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:01:50 AM EDT
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Mention of the sonic crack being louder; On sound meter it should measure the things. 1 the sound of the bolt 2 the sound of the muzzle 3 the sonic crack which generally starts a few feet from the barrel. In rapid fire, these sounds can seem all the same to the human ear. With a proper meter, it can differentiate the sounds. So with the proper gas trapping and relief, along with noise canceling harmonics, the theory is possible for it to be quiet at the muzzle. He may be omitting the sounds of 1&3. Neat! Can my iphone do that too?? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:27:12 AM EDT
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This was pointed out in the other thread. This video shows gasses escaping from the top of the device back by the threading. LINK Lol, not a chance in hell that thing is under 120dB |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:32:02 AM EDT
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So, a business owner that uses GMail for company emails is participating in a contest to validate his company? It's starting off pretty well. I work for a 15 billion a year conservative estimate international company our email backbone is Gmail. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:22:25 AM EDT
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Lol, not a chance in hell that thing is under 120dB Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This was pointed out in the other thread. This video shows gasses escaping from the top of the device back by the threading. LINK Lol, not a chance in hell that thing is under 120dB 120db would still be an industry changer for a 5.56 ar15 can. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:28:44 AM EDT
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120db would still be an industry changer for a 5.56 ar15 can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This was pointed out in the other thread. This video shows gasses escaping from the top of the device back by the threading. LINK Lol, not a chance in hell that thing is under 120dB 120db would still be an industry changer for a 5.56 ar15 can. Yeah, but unlike others I'm not going to speculate beyond the capabilities of my sound sampling equipment, aka my video camera and my ears.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:36:53 AM EDT
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I hope he's actually done it. Just considering what it would do for suppressor tech.
I've read both threads and the general consensus is it's impossible, but arfcom's been wrong many times before. disclaimer: I know nothing about acoustics and understand, basically, how a suppressor functions. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:58:21 AM EDT
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My heart says I hope he has done it. BUT.........as history shows with other companies that tried to go FFL from another background. Stick to bike/cars and stay out of the FFL game. OR just commit to one or the other.
EDIT: This dude has been inside Sandra Fucking Bullock......Think about that for a second. Wrap your head around it. I dont care if his can is an absolute fucking failure. I still give him mad props. GD can drag his name through the mud all day long, I dont give a shit. Till you can pull Sandra Bullock level tail......your argument is invalid.  |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:02:56 AM EDT
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*Actually if you read the fine print, it can be up to a 70db reduction in the vacuum of space without the presence of an atmosphere
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:37:46 AM EDT
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I work for a 15 billion a year conservative estimate international company our email backbone is Gmail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, a business owner that uses GMail for company emails is participating in a contest to validate his company? It's starting off pretty well. I work for a 15 billion a year conservative estimate international company our email backbone is Gmail. I'd wager a guess that they have a domain tied into the setup though. Gmail servers are fantastic and I personally use the shit out of Google products, but when people see an email address that isn't ending in your company name, it says that you haven't made enough money to justify paying $7 a year to claim it. It only gets worse when they are still using @aol.com or @juno.com addresses as if they haven't left the mid-90's. With that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:45:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWith that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. Quoted just in case it happens.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:47:17 AM EDT
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I believe that the claimed 78db SPL is predicated onthe user inserting the butt-plug shaped can in his (or her) rectum prior tofiring… Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i have no clue what is going on. Sorry, forgot to post this. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/439162_Jesse_James_Firearms_Suppressor.html Jesse James makes claim his can is only 78 dB's loud and he gets called out on it, he pusses out. I actually LOL'd at that. 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:01:04 AM EDT
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Quoted just in case it happens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
With that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. Quoted just in case it happens. Bring it on! 
Edit; I want to add two easy stipulations. Decibel levels must be measured by somebody competent and known for quality work I get to pre-lube. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:28:31 AM EDT
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Tag. That can is dildos. Literally. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:30:16 AM EDT
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But...he has a Mac Pro and you can see sound with it.
Like I said, I'm actually embarrassed for the guy. I really am. He doesn't know how ridiculous he sounds, or why. It's not unlike somebody like me entering the custom motorcycle and fabrication business, using my expertise as a network engineer to validate every aspect of my (predictable) pile of fail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That interview was all I needed to know. He should hire some engineers, acoustic scientists (or whatever the proper name is for them), etc. and stick to capitalizing the company and being its "wow" factor. But...he has a Mac Pro and you can see sound with it.
Like I said, I'm actually embarrassed for the guy. I really am. He doesn't know how ridiculous he sounds, or why. It's not unlike somebody like me entering the custom motorcycle and fabrication business, using my expertise as a network engineer to validate every aspect of my (predictable) pile of fail. He's pro 2A, very well known, and I hope he learns from this. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:35:26 AM EDT
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Quoted just in case it happens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
With that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. Quoted just in case it happens. 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:37:45 AM EDT
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I'm actually embarrassed for him. Dear Lord, he's talking completely out of his ass, and there's really no need to. I have no idea why he's doing this. Yeah, after reading that interview... 
I dislike all the criticism simply based off of how this suppressor looks though. Who cares if it looks like a dildo with huge balls if it actually resulted in 78dB on a 5.56. Breakthroughs in tech don't come from simply doing what every other person is doing. I quietly thought to myself this would be cool if it somehow works, but didn't really have much confidence that it actually would. That interview though, kinda put the nail in the coffin. [X-FILES] I want(ed) to believe... [/X-FILES] |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:40:55 AM EDT
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iN for range trip results.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:43:29 AM EDT
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Jesse James must be broke.... Gmail email?????????? Should have stayed with Sandra
Pretty sure he could buy Gemtech if he really wanted to. And now he married into the Paul Mitchell hair and Patron tequila empire. He might just buy Liberty and fire that dude if he pisses him off too much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:57:26 AM EDT
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Pretty sure he could buy Gemtech if he really wanted to. And now he married into the Paul Mitchell hair and Patron tequila empire. He might just buy Liberty and fire that dude if he pisses him off too much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesse James must be broke.... Gmail email?????????? Should have stayed with Sandra
Pretty sure he could buy Gemtech if he really wanted to. And now he married into the Paul Mitchell hair and Patron tequila empire. He might just buy Liberty and fire that dude if he pisses him off too much. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile yea...
that would never happen. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:02:08 AM EDT
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I dont want to dog on the mans wife, but he went from
to this What was he thinking. 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:09:24 AM EDT
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So when he gets proven wrong who is he going to blame this whole "misunderstanding" on?
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:12:14 AM EDT
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My heart says I hope he has done it. BUT.........as history shows with other companies that tried to go FFL from another background. Stick to bike/cars and stay out of the FFL game. OR just commit to one or the other. EDIT: This dude has been inside Sandra Fucking Bullock......Think about that for a second. Wrap your head around it. I dont care if his can is an absolute fucking failure. I still give him mad props. GD can drag his name through the mud all day long, I dont give a shit. Till you can pull Sandra Bullock level tail......your argument is invalid.
JJ is invalid because of this. link |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:15:03 AM EDT
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I'm not well versed on suppressors but I'm not understanding the derision about stuff like bullet crack, action cycling noise etc. No suppressor on the market does that because it has no impact on either of those things. It is conceivably possible to have a report that is quieter than the action cycling (or using a bolt action). It seems to me that Jesse James has a less than average knowledge of firearms but decided to try to cash in on the gun sales boom by using his fabricating skills and his name. More power to him I guess but jumping headfirst into a very small and competitive industry such as suppressors is both gutsy and stupid. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's true that he may be just talking about the sound at the muzzle being 78db, and ignoring the sound of the action and the sonic crack. However, in those videos he posted, there is NO sonic crack at all - which means he's using subsonic ammo, which means that gun shouldn't even be cycling, which means something's fucky. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:19:01 AM EDT
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Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't a supersonic round have way more than78db from the crack alone if you zeroed-out all of the muzzle blast? I've never seen him come forward on how he measured the sound and what math he used to come to his final suppressed db rating. For example, any one of us can make a suppressor with 0db such as: 74hc ultra suppressor rated at 0db.* *sound measured at 150miles from muzzle, ymmv. Or this math like this: actual measured sound db - sound db produced by action = 78db. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:24:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys are talking like bunch of fags. You are just peanut butter and jealous of how Jessie is going to come into the gun world and become the front runner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just curious....were you getting decibel levels anywhere close to what he's claiming? Concepts at this point. Nothing tangible as of yet. What his design does is manage the sound contraction wave in a manner so it doesn't distort. The gasses want to expand. Allowing them to in a contractional ratio is the key to managing the distortion. Add: divergence/convergence ratios to be more precise. The mass velocity is the determining factor here. The energy of a sound wave is dependent on the energy of the gasses it is held within, as does its relative velocity. its just a 2 stroke pipe, not rocket science.. You guys are talking like bunch of fags. You are just peanut butter and jealous of how Jessie is going to come into the gun world and become the front runner. Somebody recently watched _The Interview_ on Netflix I see… |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:27:04 AM EDT
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He literally has no idea what he is talking about. He hasn't done anything but create a mediocre, ugly and (in my opinion) poorly constructed rifle can. A bunch of bolts holding it together? Yeah, that will hold up well. All the to all the all the arfcommers saying "Maybe he did do it" - stop embarrassing yourselves. Seriously. Stop. It's a prop from a '50's scifi movie. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:34:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont want to dog on the mans wife, but he went from http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2014/04/29/Sandra-Bullock.jpg to this http://www.trbimg.com/img-52f6c0dc/turbine/la-sp-sn-nhra-winternationals-dejoria-20140208 What was he thinking. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:34:47 AM EDT
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78db Double Tap
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:45:13 AM EDT
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I dont want to dog on the mans wife, but he went from http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2014/04/29/Sandra-Bullock.jpg to this http://www.trbimg.com/img-52f6c0dc/turbine/la-sp-sn-nhra-winternationals-dejoria-20140208 What was he thinking. 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:53:10 AM EDT
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I dont want to dog on the mans wife Isn't this what killed the last thread? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:53:40 AM EDT
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Isn't this what killed the last thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont want to dog on the mans wife Isn't this what killed the last thread? No, people were attacking other people. No one ever mentioned who he was married to I believe. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:54:44 AM EDT
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No, people were attacking other people. No one ever mentioned who he was married to I believe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont want to dog on the mans wife Isn't this what killed the last thread? No, people were attacking other people. No one ever mentioned who he was married to I believe. Wives and exwives and mistresses and porn stars were mentioned. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:59:43 AM EDT
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Isn't this what killed the last thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont want to dog on the mans wife Isn't this what killed the last thread? The last thread was in a tech forum. The GD-esque comments probably had more to do with it being locked. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:59:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get to pre-lube. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. Quoted just in case it happens. I get to pre-lube. I'll give you that. No need for the pepper your angus, going in dry.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My heart says I hope he has done it. BUT.........as history shows with other companies that tried to go FFL from another background. Stick to bike/cars and stay out of the FFL game. OR just commit to one or the other. EDIT: This dude has been inside Sandra Fucking Bullock......Think about that for a second. Wrap your head around it. I dont care if his can is an absolute fucking failure. I still give him mad props. GD can drag his name through the mud all day long, I dont give a shit. Till you can pull Sandra Bullock level tail......your argument is invalid. JJ is invalid because of this. link Punanny does weird shit to a guy. Cant fault him for that.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:17:38 PM EDT
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So he doesn't know what moa means?
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:30:01 PM EDT
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He's a gun guy. How about we wait for the test to see how it turns out. Leave his wife out of it.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:30:02 PM EDT
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Punanny does weird shit to a guy. Cant fault him for that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My heart says I hope he has done it. BUT.........as history shows with other companies that tried to go FFL from another background. Stick to bike/cars and stay out of the FFL game. OR just commit to one or the other. EDIT: This dude has been inside Sandra Fucking Bullock......Think about that for a second. Wrap your head around it. I dont care if his can is an absolute fucking failure. I still give him mad props. GD can drag his name through the mud all day long, I dont give a shit. Till you can pull Sandra Bullock level tail......your argument is invalid.
JJ is invalid because of this. link Punanny does weird shit to a guy. Cant fault him for that. You are the one who used his position of being involved with Sandra Bullock as the be all end all of his argument. If he is retarded enough to cheat on Sandra Bullock with some floosey then his argument is invalid and making an excuse for him is just as stupid. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:33:16 PM EDT
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He's a gun guy. How about we wait for the test to see how it turns out. Leave his wife out of it. ok, stop making fun of Michelle Obama and go tell everyone else to stop too. The guy is a notorious douche nozzle for sleeping around with anyone... fuck him. He had a smoking hot wife who seems like a cool chick and he fucked that up. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:36:33 PM EDT
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He get banned?
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:37:11 PM EDT
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He's a gun guy. How about we wait for the test to see how it turns out. Leave his wife out of it. This. I think his claims are either bullshit or political speak(not giving the full db rating, only the part that makes his seem revolutionary). But as long as he is bringing good interest and publicity to firearms I am for it. Do I expect him to be the next LaRue or surefire? Hell no, but he is blending art with function and that is always cool and gets people interested in it that weren't before. So I say, leave his personal life out of it as there are plenty of legitimate things about his suppressor/claims to at.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:37:32 PM EDT
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This was pointed out in the other thread. This video shows gasses escaping from the top of the device back by the threading. LINK The sound hurt my ears through my headphones. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:39:44 PM EDT
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This was pointed out in the other thread. This video shows gasses escaping from the top of the device back by the threading. LINK The sound hurt my ears through my headphones. That sounds loud as fuck. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:50:13 PM EDT
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I am willing to bet you it did measure 78 decibels... using his computer to measure the video he recorded. His camera mic probably clipped and he didn't take that into account (probably didn't know). Doubt he did it using meters.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:53:13 PM EDT
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He get banned? Nope. Logged in this morning. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:55:11 PM EDT
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Punanny does weird shit to a guy. Cant fault him for that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My heart says I hope he has done it. BUT.........as history shows with other companies that tried to go FFL from another background. Stick to bike/cars and stay out of the FFL game. OR just commit to one or the other. EDIT: This dude has been inside Sandra Fucking Bullock......Think about that for a second. Wrap your head around it. I dont care if his can is an absolute fucking failure. I still give him mad props. GD can drag his name through the mud all day long, I dont give a shit. Till you can pull Sandra Bullock level tail......your argument is invalid.
JJ is invalid because of this. link Punanny does weird shit to a guy. Cant fault him for that. Never stick your dick in Crazy, it's contagion. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:55:42 PM EDT
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Some of you don't understand JJ anymore than I understand suppressors and the science behind them.
His silencer isn't being made for people like us, it's being made for those who buy anything he makes. He's the Steve Jobs of the gun world. He's an incredible fabricator with, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, a high school education. He's part showman, part artist and part dumbass with a big cult following. It doesn't matter to his loyal followers if it works as he says or not, they expect him to exaggerate, it's part of his schtick and they love him for it. You buy a JJ creation for the sole reason it was made by JJ, not because it works. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:56:03 PM EDT
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I'd wager a guess that they have a domain tied into the setup though. Gmail servers are fantastic and I personally use the shit out of Google products, but when people see an email address that isn't ending in your company name, it says that you haven't made enough money to justify paying $7 a year to claim it. It only gets worse when they are still using @aol.com or @juno.com addresses as if they haven't left the mid-90's. With that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, a business owner that uses GMail for company emails is participating in a contest to validate his company? It's starting off pretty well. I work for a 15 billion a year conservative estimate international company our email backbone is Gmail. I'd wager a guess that they have a domain tied into the setup though. Gmail servers are fantastic and I personally use the shit out of Google products, but when people see an email address that isn't ending in your company name, it says that you haven't made enough money to justify paying $7 a year to claim it. It only gets worse when they are still using @aol.com or @juno.com addresses as if they haven't left the mid-90's. With that said, I know it's not going to meter less than 120dB. If it can beat 115dB, I will personally let Jesse James shove his $4000 buttplug up my ass. Agreed. You'd be surprised how many huge companies use gmail to host their email. But it is tied to their domain. |
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