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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:15:27 AM EDT
I know the Soviets called them armies, but they were equal to what, a Western brigade, man power wise? Or was it corps? My brain is foggy on the point. I know that Western 'armies' and Soviet 'armies' are not the same, though. Any help?
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:18:46 AM EDT
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Roughly a corps.
Summer of 45, the Soviets had roughly 6:1 advantage in troops and 3:1 in tanks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:18:49 AM EDT
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The Soviet "armies" are just pillage and rape groups.
We could have rolled those savages back to Siberia, without the nukes. 
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:20:53 AM EDT
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Roughly a corps. Summer of 45, the Soviets had roughly 6:1 advantage in troops and 3:1 in tanks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How would their air forces have compared to the allies in mid-'45? |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:27:26 AM EDT
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Roughly a corps. Summer of 45, the Soviets had roughly 6:1 advantage in troops and 3:1 in tanks. How would their air forces have compared to the allies in mid-'45? Hard to say, the Soviet VVS was almost totally focused on tactical air, while the Allied air forces(as a whole) we're more based on strategic air. Most likely in event of full scale fighting, both sides would of ended up mauled within a few short weeks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:27:39 AM EDT
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Roughly a corps. Summer of 45, the Soviets had roughly 6:1 advantage in troops and 3:1 in tanks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How would their air forces have compared to the allies in mid-'45? Think of some pigeons dumped in a bunch of hawks. Sure, some Russian pigeons would be able to avoid the hawks for a few minutes... |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:29:20 AM EDT
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Soviet Armies were about the equivalent of the Ferguson protesters with guns and tanks.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:37:26 AM EDT
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What about a little later on, say late 1945 or early 1946 after VJ? Repositioning and much more Navy options?
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:38:00 AM EDT
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We should have turned the German army into extra allied units and rolled Russia up like a carpet. We would have a lock on nukes for a few years had more production capacity and had lost ten times fewer men with a larger starting population.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:40:05 AM EDT
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Army = German/US/Brit Division
There's a bunch of tables in the back of Sons of the Reich but my copy is packed up some place. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:42:46 AM EDT
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I dont know about then, but now its about one level down more or less. Their BDE is comparable to our BN, their Division our BDE.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:44:19 AM EDT
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Roughly a corps. Summer of 45, the Soviets had roughly 6:1 advantage in troops and 3:1 in tanks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How would their air forces have compared to the allies in mid-'45? Very very very badly. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 4:44:53 AM EDT
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A lot of there "divisions" Were badly mauled and in no shape to fight. Even without the casualties a Russian division was much smaller then its western counterpart. Not to mention a large portion of them were badly trained badly equipped troops from places like Romania. Add in that we had about 3 million German POW's we could of rearmed and put into the fight.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 5:26:32 AM EDT
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"Western" armies were a heterogeneous bunch. Question should be probably limited to US armies alone.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 6:12:33 AM EDT
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Roughly a corps. Summer of 45, the Soviets had roughly 6:1 advantage in troops and 3:1 in tanks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How would their air forces have compared to the allies in mid-'45? Very very very badly. To put things in perspective... Erich Hartmann scored a total of 352 kills. 8 of those were P-51 Mustangs, the other 344 were a wide variety of Soviet aircraft. Despite downing eight P-51s, he considered flying against the USAAF to be dangerous and scary. The Soviets, not so much... On one occasion he dove through both Soviet and American fighter aircraft, firing at both, and starting a dogfight between them. From what I recall, the Americans won it. |
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