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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:54:04 PM EDT
I know that 9mm is better.  I have plenty of 9mm pistols.  This gun is for pocket carry.



I bought a M&P Bodyguard last week on an impulse.   What carry ammo should I buy?



This looks pretty nice.



BUFFALO-BARNES LEAD-FREE 380 Auto +P Ammo - 80 gr. Barnes TAC-XP
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 10:55:06 PM EDT
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9mm
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 10:55:23 PM EDT
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FMJ in a .380, better penetration and .380 HP doesn't expand much anyway.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 10:56:04 PM EDT
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Hornady Critical Defence
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 10:56:26 PM EDT
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I usually use FMJ.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 10:56:32 PM EDT
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I use Corbon 80 grain DPX in my Ruger LCP and SIG P232.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:01:27 PM EDT
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Hornady Custom or pretty much any other major manufacturers XTP loading
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:01:37 PM EDT
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Warm weather - Hornady Critical Defense.

Cold weather - Ball. Need the penetration.

This is for cold weather states like MI. Warmer weather states may get away with hollowpoints all year round.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:03:06 PM EDT
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Lehigh Defense XP if your gun will cycle it. My Glock 42 loves it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:05:58 PM EDT
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Old_Painless says that you should shoot FMJ in a .380 to achieve proper penetration.

I don't know much more than that, but he seems to shoot a lot of stuff - so, I'll go with that.


Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:06:16 PM EDT
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There is a great test video on YouTube. Look for it. They tested a lot of common brands that you would think would be good. It was surprising to see Speer and Federal fall short and Hornady was dogshit. The only brand that got consistent 12"+ penetration was some brand I was unfamiliar with. It was even better than Buffalo Bore which was my first choice. Seriously, do some research. .380 isn't the anemic caliber in HP it once was if you go with the right brand.

eta: found it! It was Precision One. Consistently penetrated over 12". 13.5" average bare gelatin, 13.8" average through heavy denim; consistent expansion. I will have to find some for carry when I pick up another .380. He was shooting it outbid a micro .380, too. Impressive.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:06:23 PM EDT
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Dont need +p ....use hornady CD.  Use ccw g42.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:06:30 PM EDT
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In .32, .380, and 9x18 I use FMJ, preferably Sellar and Bellot
These rounds don't expand reliably and the hot FMJs make enough energy to get enough penetration.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:06:47 PM EDT
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Ball
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:07:27 PM EDT
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This, plus better feeding in pocket guns.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:08:17 PM EDT
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Anticipating someone wheeling out the single stack 9mm unicorn diatribe.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:08:41 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:09:36 PM EDT
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Lehigh Defense XP
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LC9 or Shield (my preference)

F-Glock.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:10:45 PM EDT
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... BUFFALO-BARNES 380 Auto +P
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:10:50 PM EDT
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Remington golden saber is what u seek
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:11:09 PM EDT
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DPX
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This
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:13:27 PM EDT
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Precision One XTP
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There is a great test video on YouTube. Look for it. They tested a lot of common brands that you would think would be good. It was surprising to see Speer and Federal fall short and Hornady was dogshit. The only brand that got consistent 12"+ penetration was some brand I was unfamiliar with. It was even better than Buffalo Bore which was my first choice. Seriously, do some research. .380 isn't the anemic caliber in HP it once was if you go with the right brand.
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Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:21:20 PM EDT
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Ball for me.   Under penetration is more of a concern than under expansion.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:22:39 PM EDT
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There is a great test video on YouTube. Look for it. They tested a lot of common brands that you would think would be good. It was surprising to see Speer and Federal fall short and Hornady was dogshit. The only brand that got consistent 12"+ penetration was some brand I was unfamiliar with. It was even better than Buffalo Bore which was my first choice. Seriously, do some research. .380 isn't the anemic caliber in HP it once was if you go with the right brand.

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http://youtu.be/GNtPHYwcDts
 

Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:23:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:24:47 PM EDT
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You don't "run" ammo bro, you "rock" it.

I'd rock Hornady Critical Duty.  I have no stats to back up that choice.  I just like them.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:28:07 PM EDT
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This
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Or Lehigh defense.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:32:28 PM EDT
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Some sort of European FMJ ammo.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:34:45 PM EDT
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You should run what you can tactically operate operationally
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:36:52 PM EDT
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There is a great test video on YouTube. Look for it. They tested a lot of common brands that you would think would be good. It was surprising to see Speer and Federal fall short and Hornady was dogshit. The only brand that got consistent 12"+ penetration was some brand I was unfamiliar with. It was even better than Buffalo Bore which was my first choice. Seriously, do some research. .380 isn't the anemic caliber in HP it once was if you go with the right brand.

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http://youtu.be/GNtPHYwcDts
 



This is best evaluation of .380 I have seen.  Posted is the summary vid, the vid for each brand tested is on the guy's site and youtube.

He is also doing the same tests with 9mm out of short barrel, vids on site.  Kinda cuts through all the hype and lets one see real performance to expect.



Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:37:20 PM EDT
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There is a great test video on YouTube. Look for it. They tested a lot of common brands that you would think would be good. It was surprising to see Speer and Federal fall short and Hornady was dogshit. The only brand that got consistent 12"+ penetration was some brand I was unfamiliar with. It was even better than Buffalo Bore which was my first choice. Seriously, do some research. .380 isn't the anemic caliber in HP it once was if you go with the right brand.

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Yep. Precision One is the one. I used to carry Hornady Critical Defense - never again.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:37:25 PM EDT
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There is a great test video on YouTube. Look for it. They tested a lot of common brands that you would think would be good. It was surprising to see Speer and Federal fall short and Hornady was dogshit. The only brand that got consistent 12"+ penetration was some brand I was unfamiliar with. It was even better than Buffalo Bore which was my first choice. Seriously, do some research. .380 isn't the anemic caliber in HP it once was if you go with the right brand.

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This x 100.
I stopped using Critical Defense in my LCP as well as Golden Sabers after reviewing this guy's you tube video's.
I bought several boxes of the Fiochhi Extrema which uses the Hornady XTP bullets and both my LCP's ran great on them.
If you are going to carry a pocket .380 watch this guy's testing.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:38:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:43:12 PM EDT
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If you are going to run a 380 at least run this one
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:50:04 PM EDT
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99 grain Federal HST
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 11:55:54 PM EDT
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Correct answer.

Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:07:40 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:33:15 AM EDT
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Just a guess but .380 possibly?
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:35:46 AM EDT
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Correct answer.

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Correct answer.


You didn't watch shootingthebull's videos either I see.

For the TL;DW crowd.
http://shootingthebull.net/blog/final-results-of-the-380-acp-ammo-quest/
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:36:43 AM EDT
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I carry that hot 100 gr buffalo bore ammo.
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:39:38 AM EDT
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You didn't watch shootingthebull's videos either I see.
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You didn't watch shootingthebull's videos either I see.

He strikes me as "odd"
A lot of 32 and 380s have issues with HPs. I'll stick with hot FMJs.
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:43:18 AM EDT
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He strikes me as "odd"
A lot of 32 and 380s have issues with HPs. I'll stick with hot FMJs.
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You didn't watch shootingthebull's videos either I see.

He strikes me as "odd"
A lot of 32 and 380s have issues with HPs. I'll stick with hot FMJs.

As you wish. You have probably vetted your gun and the ammo it prefers.
For others to simply dismiss .380 as not expanding or lacking sufficient penetration, the tests he did are informative.
If you are a .45.>9 guy, this is all moot anyway.
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:45:16 AM EDT
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XTPs don't over-expand, so they have adequate penetration.  Hornady, Fiocchi and others load them.
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:45:30 AM EDT
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In true arfcom fashion, get both- a good hp and stagger it with high quality ball in the mag.
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:45:45 AM EDT
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Correct answer.



Incorrect.
Link Posted: 1/25/2015 12:47:48 AM EDT
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Dunno let me ask my wife.


Eta: she runs this for minimum penetration

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