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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:21:09 PM EDT
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So raising taxes on other people and corporations is conservative? And all this time I thought Obama as a left winger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Give Republicans a true conservative...and they rip her to shreds and believe what the liberal media told them. Unbelievable. Flat-out unbelievable. She raised taxes to pay for social programs as Governor. She offered no conservative solution to pressing issues in her short stint in leadership. It is unbelievable that folks *honestly* want to hold Palin as a litmus test for who is and who is not a conservative... I can see why the left does it... The left needs conservative straw-men with major chinks in their armor... Palin has plenty... But other conservatives looking at Palin raising taxes against Oil Companies as Governor to pay for increases in social payouts and social programs... And holding that as a litmus test of conservative ideology... Unbelievable... No words... Wow. Well, lets put this in context. Alaska has no state income tax. She did increase the tax on Oil companies from 22.5 to 25%. This went into the Permanent fund dividend. Something that a majority of Alaskans support. (Both left and right) In alaska, trying to take away that dividend..is political suicide. So raising taxes on other people and corporations is conservative? And all this time I thought Obama as a left winger. While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:22:08 PM EDT
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... she would make a much better POTUS than Hillary Clinton She's actually run an ENTIRE state, Hillary has No Such Experience. That said, there are better candidates. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:22:47 PM EDT
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How about if she dressed up as a pirate?
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:22:50 PM EDT
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Well... We know she supported the McCain 2008 platform on guns... That is a no-brainer... And... If she had walked-away from the biggest proponent and advocate of the "Close the gunshow loophole" agenda... Then you might be on to something... She supported criminalizing gun sales one time... Then walked-away... Good for her. She just wanted really-bad to be VP. We could hand that to her. Everyone wants money and power, and she made a mistake... Then McCain blamed her for his loss... Pointed fingers and accusations... Huh... I thought she made him look better. I thought bringing in a lifelong hunter gave his "close the gun show" agenda more credence... Huh. And if she had walked-away then... She could have washed her hands of his silly liberal agenda pieces. But no... That was not the end... Nope. He faced re-election in Arizona to the Senate two years later. And the Tea Party put a pro-gun option on the ticket against McCain... McCain needed support for his anti-gun, open-the-borders campaign... Guess which Senate candidate in Arizona Palin endorsed... There were two on the Primary ticket... A Tea Party option... And "Close the gun show loophole" McCain... You can mock me all day long. She chose and supported McCain... And endorsed his, "Close the gun show loophole, open-the-borders" campaign *against* the Tea Party... Go figure...   Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He extrapolates positions on issues by locking the subject of the discussion (Palin in this instance) to any and all positions taken by associates, superiors and any other perceived actions of support for anybody who they ever appeared with or showed any type of support, agreement or endorsement for on any issue at any time. In other words, he's a wizard. 
Well... We know she supported the McCain 2008 platform on guns... That is a no-brainer... And... If she had walked-away from the biggest proponent and advocate of the "Close the gunshow loophole" agenda... Then you might be on to something... She supported criminalizing gun sales one time... Then walked-away... Good for her. She just wanted really-bad to be VP. We could hand that to her. Everyone wants money and power, and she made a mistake... Then McCain blamed her for his loss... Pointed fingers and accusations... Huh... I thought she made him look better. I thought bringing in a lifelong hunter gave his "close the gun show" agenda more credence... Huh. And if she had walked-away then... She could have washed her hands of his silly liberal agenda pieces. But no... That was not the end... Nope. He faced re-election in Arizona to the Senate two years later. And the Tea Party put a pro-gun option on the ticket against McCain... McCain needed support for his anti-gun, open-the-borders campaign... Guess which Senate candidate in Arizona Palin endorsed... There were two on the Primary ticket... A Tea Party option... And "Close the gun show loophole" McCain... You can mock me all day long. She chose and supported McCain... And endorsed his, "Close the gun show loophole, open-the-borders" campaign *against* the Tea Party... Go figure... Please enlighten us and tell us who we should be voting for...... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:24:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please enlighten us and tell us who we should be voting for...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He extrapolates positions on issues by locking the subject of the discussion (Palin in this instance) to any and all positions taken by associates, superiors and any other perceived actions of support for anybody who they ever appeared with or showed any type of support, agreement or endorsement for on any issue at any time. In other words, he's a wizard. Well... We know she supported the McCain 2008 platform on guns... That is a no-brainer... And... If she had walked-away from the biggest proponent and advocate of the "Close the gunshow loophole" agenda... Then you might be on to something... She supported criminalizing gun sales one time... Then walked-away... Good for her. She just wanted really-bad to be VP. We could hand that to her. Everyone wants money and power, and she made a mistake... Then McCain blamed her for his loss... Pointed fingers and accusations... Huh... I thought she made him look better. I thought bringing in a lifelong hunter gave his "close the gun show" agenda more credence... Huh. And if she had walked-away then... She could have washed her hands of his silly liberal agenda pieces. But no... That was not the end... Nope. He faced re-election in Arizona to the Senate two years later. And the Tea Party put a pro-gun option on the ticket against McCain... McCain needed support for his anti-gun, open-the-borders campaign... Guess which Senate candidate in Arizona Palin endorsed... There were two on the Primary ticket... A Tea Party option... And "Close the gun show loophole" McCain... You can mock me all day long. She chose and supported McCain... And endorsed his, "Close the gun show loophole, open-the-borders" campaign *against* the Tea Party... Go figure... Please enlighten us and tell us who we should be voting for......  |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:24:23 PM EDT
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I'd vote her for her in the Primaries.
That said, I'll vote R over D in the General, no matter who it is.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:24:56 PM EDT
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Who are your examples of "real" conservatives? The ultimate litmus test is Ronald Reagan. Imperfect. Warts. Mistakes and mis-steps. Reagan. On taxes, on a lifelong fight against Unions, and on sending illegals to the back of the line, we did alright by picking Romney last go-around. On gun rights, we improved from "Close the gunshow loophole" (Palin/McCain) to Romney actively campaigning on, "No new gun rights." The litmus test, though is Reagan... Warts, mistakes, and mis-steps and all. Right now? Brewer, Haley, Love, Chaffetz, Rand, Lee, etc.... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:25:47 PM EDT
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Oops.
 
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:27:35 PM EDT
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The ultimate litmus test is Ronald Reagan. Imperfect. Warts. Mistakes and mis-steps. Reagan. On taxes, on a lifelong fight against Unions, and on sending illegals to the back of the line, we did alright by picking Romney last go-around. On gun rights, we improved from "Close the gunshow loophole" (Palin/McCain) to Romney actively campaigning on, "No new gun rights." The litmus test, though is Reagan... Warts, mistakes, and mis-steps and all. Right now? Brewer, Haley, Love, Chaffetz, Rand, Lee, etc.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who are your examples of "real" conservatives? The ultimate litmus test is Ronald Reagan. Imperfect. Warts. Mistakes and mis-steps. Reagan. On taxes, on a lifelong fight against Unions, and on sending illegals to the back of the line, we did alright by picking Romney last go-around. On gun rights, we improved from "Close the gunshow loophole" (Palin/McCain) to Romney actively campaigning on, "No new gun rights." The litmus test, though is Reagan... Warts, mistakes, and mis-steps and all. Right now? Brewer, Haley, Love, Chaffetz, Rand, Lee, etc.... That 1986 machine gun law doesn't bother you much then aye? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:29:01 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure she just trolls liberals. No, she's trying to keep her brand out in front of the public so she's still a viable pundit for Fox News and to keep her speaking fees high. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:30:17 PM EDT
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The ultimate litmus test is Ronald Reagan. Imperfect. Warts. Mistakes and mis-steps. Reagan. On taxes, on a lifelong fight against Unions, and on sending illegals to the back of the line, we did alright by picking Romney last go-around. On gun rights, we improved from "Close the gunshow loophole" (Palin/McCain) to Romney actively campaigning on, "No new gun rights." The litmus test, though is Reagan... Warts, mistakes, and mis-steps and all. Right now? Brewer, Haley, Love, Chaffetz, Rand, Lee, etc.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who are your examples of "real" conservatives? The ultimate litmus test is Ronald Reagan. Imperfect. Warts. Mistakes and mis-steps. Reagan. On taxes, on a lifelong fight against Unions, and on sending illegals to the back of the line, we did alright by picking Romney last go-around. On gun rights, we improved from "Close the gunshow loophole" (Palin/McCain) to Romney actively campaigning on, "No new gun rights." The litmus test, though is Reagan... Warts, mistakes, and mis-steps and all. Right now? Brewer, Haley, Love, Chaffetz, Rand, Lee, etc.... So Palin is anti-gun because she was on the same ticket as as McCain who you say supported closing the gun show loophole, yet Reagan signed the Hughes amendment and should be the litmus test? Got it |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:31:21 PM EDT
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Well, lets put this in context. Alaska has no state income tax. She did increase the tax on Oil companies from 22.5 to 25%. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, lets put this in context. Alaska has no state income tax. She did increase the tax on Oil companies from 22.5 to 25%. Yes. Palin did indeed raise taxes as Governor...
That was my point all along. And it wasn't just a, "Hey everyone, you are making big demands on government payouts and social infrastructure, everyone is going to feel the pain..." It was the worst kind of taxes... "Everyone cast your vote for me. I will support socialism, social payouts, and social spending...And guess what... We are going to pass the money on to the next guy. Make the *corporations* pay." I do not like the Palin model. Quoted:
This went into the Permanent fund dividend. Something that a majority of Alaskans support. (Both left and right) In alaska, trying to take away that dividend..is political suicide. It went to pay for socialism, social payouts, and social programs. Of course socialism is popular and is growing in popularity... It is popular in Alaska, and if Palin could implement her, "Make somebody else pay" tax strategy in California or New York, it would be popular there, too... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:32:02 PM EDT
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I'd vote for her, but this certainly seems to be the case, at times: But I guess that's part of the reason why I like her.
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I'd vote for her, but this certainly seems to be the case, at times: Quoted:
I'm pretty sure she just trolls liberals. But I guess that's part of the reason why I like her.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:32:03 PM EDT
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So raising taxes on other people and corporations is conservative? And all this time I thought Obama as a left winger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, lets put this in context. Alaska has no state income tax. She did increase the tax on Oil companies from 22.5 to 25%. This went into the Permanent fund dividend. Something that a majority of Alaskans support. (Both left and right) In alaska, trying to take away that dividend..is political suicide. So raising taxes on other people and corporations is conservative? And all this time I thought Obama as a left winger. Boom. Headshot. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:32:25 PM EDT
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While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:35:43 PM EDT
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What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Give people a chance, and they will always vote to raise taxes on others, not themselves. Keep increasing socialism, social spending ,and social payouts... And give people a chance to decide, and they will target the job creators. Always. In New York, California, or Alaska...
The conservative is the one keeping spending under limits to avoid raising taxes. The conservative is the one shutting-down social spending to avoid raising taxes. Palin raised taxes. You can bash your head against a wall arguing why raising taxes is a super-duper conservative thing to do... At the end of the day... Palin raised taxes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:35:46 PM EDT
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Boom. Headshot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, lets put this in context. Alaska has no state income tax. She did increase the tax on Oil companies from 22.5 to 25%. This went into the Permanent fund dividend. Something that a majority of Alaskans support. (Both left and right) In alaska, trying to take away that dividend..is political suicide. So raising taxes on other people and corporations is conservative? And all this time I thought Obama as a left winger. Boom. Headshot. I didn't say I supported it. I merely presented it as it happened and what the facts are. You want to take away that dividend, you will not be politically viable in Alaska. With that being said, she is a far better candidate than any other person currently in the running or whoever will get the head nod. But, you are stuck on one tax increase and Mccain. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:36:47 PM EDT
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I'm going with no.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:37:48 PM EDT
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Please enlighten us and tell us who we should be voting for...... There aint a single name on a single ballot anywhere... Who I hope runs... Any number of folks who tried to control spending while effectively communicating conservative ideals... Haley, Brewer, Cruz, Rand, Lee, Chaffetz, Jindal, etc... We have a pretty good pool of solid conservatives... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:38:26 PM EDT
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Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. I think he's just aware that in order for a state or country to operate there needs to be a certain amount of revenue. No one is arguing that our current system is fucked. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:38:36 PM EDT
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Who the hell ISN'T running?
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:38:46 PM EDT
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How about if she dressed up as a pirate? hell..you would have half of GD change their position to official leghumpers then... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:39:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPalin is not the litmus test as to who is and who is not a real conservative... But if by some freak accident, it is Palin vs. Hillary... I would walk over hot coals to vote Palin... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. And what were they taxing? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:42:16 PM EDT
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That 1986 machine gun law doesn't bother you much then aye? Reagan is the litmus test, yes. If that is your question. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:42:37 PM EDT
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She bailed on completing her first term as Governor in order to be on a reality show. As President? No thanks. I think she was getting smoked by all the Law suits the left was burying her in. Either quit or go bankrupt. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:43:15 PM EDT
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Reagan is the litmus test, yes. If that is your question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That 1986 machine gun law doesn't bother you much then aye? Reagan is the litmus test, yes. If that is your question. Hypocrite much? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:46:12 PM EDT
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Last time was better, now she has baggage. But nothing compared to the beast killing off an ambassador,
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:46:26 PM EDT
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So Palin is anti-gun because she was on the same ticket as as McCain who you say supported closing the gun show loophole, yet Reagan signed the Hughes amendment and should be the litmus test? Got it She was on the same ticket as McCain... Then she took it to another level, when... After McCain threw her under the bus blaming her for his 08 loss... She supported the same "Open the borders, criminalize gun sales" platform two years later... Reagan was a master negotiator, and a master politician... Democrats held the majority in the House when the bill was written... Do not take that out of context, either... Even with a Democrat majority, he still finagled pro-gun aspects to the legislation he signed... That is what makes him the litmus test... Always, always find a way to push conservative ideals against the opposition. In McCains Senate Race... Two years after he blamed her for his loss... The opposition was conservatives... the opposition was the Tea Party... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:48:47 PM EDT
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Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Spot-on. Spot-freaking-on. The Palin model, "Make the corporations pay..." Is *really*... The corporations are going to push the costs down the line... Raising taxes instead of cutting socialism and social payouts hurts everyone... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:50:18 PM EDT
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I think he's just aware that in order for a state or country to operate there needs to be a certain amount of revenue. No one is arguing that our current system is fucked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. I think he's just aware that in order for a state or country to operate there needs to be a certain amount of revenue. No one is arguing that our current system is fucked. Certainly the people should pay for whatever government they establish. But raising taxes only on corporations is an attempt to convince the people that someone else is paying for their government and they are getting something for free. That kind of thinking is to a large degree why the country is in the situation it's in. Politicians have convinced a majority of the population that they can benefit at someone else's expense. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:50:38 PM EDT
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But, you are stuck on one tax increase and Mccain. Palin fully-endorsed McCain's "Close the gunshow loophole, and open the border" campaign *after* she took the blame for his 08 loss... She is the one attached to McCain (and his platform) at the hip... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:51:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She bailed on completing her first term as Governor in order to be on a reality show. As President? No thanks. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:52:53 PM EDT
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She was on the same ticket as McCain... Then she took it to another level, when... After McCain threw her under the bus blaming her for his 08 loss... She supported the same "Open the borders, criminalize gun sales" platform two years later... Reagan was a master negotiator, and a master politician... Democrats held the majority in the House when the bill was written... Do not take that out of context, either... Even with a Democrat majority, he still finagled pro-gun aspects to the legislation he signed... That is what makes him the litmus test... Always, always find a way to push conservative ideals against the opposition. In McCains Senate Race... Two years after he blamed her for his loss... The opposition was conservatives... the opposition was the Tea Party... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So Palin is anti-gun because she was on the same ticket as as McCain who you say supported closing the gun show loophole, yet Reagan signed the Hughes amendment and should be the litmus test? Got it She was on the same ticket as McCain... Then she took it to another level, when... After McCain threw her under the bus blaming her for his 08 loss... She supported the same "Open the borders, criminalize gun sales" platform two years later... Reagan was a master negotiator, and a master politician... Democrats held the majority in the House when the bill was written... Do not take that out of context, either... Even with a Democrat majority, he still finagled pro-gun aspects to the legislation he signed... That is what makes him the litmus test... Always, always find a way to push conservative ideals against the opposition. In McCains Senate Race... Two years after he blamed her for his loss... The opposition was conservatives... the opposition was the Tea Party... Yeah we get it, you've told us the same things in every one of your posts. But the fact that your ok with a machine a gun ban, but can't stand someone because someone said something in a campaign, yet never actually signed any anti-gun legislation is amazing. I say all that based off the fact that your correct about the "gun-show loophole". I for one don't remember that at all. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think she was getting smoked by all the Law suits the left was burying her in. Either quit or go bankrupt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She bailed on completing her first term as Governor in order to be on a reality show. As President? No thanks. I think she was getting smoked by all the Law suits the left was burying her in. Either quit or go bankrupt. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:54:03 PM EDT
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I think he's just aware that in order for a state or country to operate there needs to be a certain amount of revenue. No one is arguing that our current system is fucked. Our current system *is* messed up. Want to mess it up more... The Palin model: "Make the corporations pay." Want to fix it? Honestly want to fix the current system... Cut social spending, social programs, and social payouts... Some real conservatives have honestly tried... Link It is possible to call for across-the-board cuts to the size, scope, and reach of government... Something Palin did not do. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:54:05 PM EDT
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While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Corporate taxes are an illusion politicians use to convince people that someone else is paying. All corporations simply pass on taxes as a business cost and they always end up in the prices of goods and services. So, at the end of the day the people do pay the taxes. But the idea that corporations pay taxes is a powerful tool used by those that desire to grow government. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:54:38 PM EDT
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Yea, we have that fucking coal severance tax here. Democrat bastards.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:55:56 PM EDT
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Corporate taxes are an illusion politicians use to convince people that someone else is paying. All corporations simply pass on taxes as a business cost and they always end up in the prices of goods and services. So, at the end of the day the people do pay the taxes. But the idea that corporations pay taxes is a powerful tool used by those that desire to grow government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Corporate taxes are an illusion politicians use to convince people that someone else is paying. All corporations simply pass on taxes as a business cost and they always end up in the prices of goods and services. So, at the end of the day the people do pay the taxes. But the idea that corporations pay taxes is a powerful tool used by those that desire to grow government. No one is arguing with you. We all know this. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:58:30 PM EDT
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That 1986 machine gun law doesn't bother you much then aye? Reagan is the litmus test, yes. If that is your question. Hypocrite much? I have made-clear all along that Reagan was not perfect... But... he did not campaign to raise and increase social spending, then pass the entire new tax solely onto corporations... He honestly tried to cut socialism and social spending... Both as Governor and as President... Against Democrat Party majorities... Palin always had a party-majority in her two years as Governor...
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:58:58 PM EDT
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Sarah Palin, and her family, are interesting. She is NOT Presidential material, however. Have you seen the Whitehouse lately?
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one is arguing with you. We all know this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: While I hate any government tax what so-ever...you can't have a government without SOME taxes. The state still provides public services and you still have to fund those in some way. What do you prefer? Income taxes or taxes on an oil company? Like many in this country you prefer taxing "other people", preferably faceless corporations. That is a very left wing position that too many buy into, mainly due to economic illiteracy. Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. Corporate taxes are an illusion politicians use to convince people that someone else is paying. All corporations simply pass on taxes as a business cost and they always end up in the prices of goods and services. So, at the end of the day the people do pay the taxes. But the idea that corporations pay taxes is a powerful tool used by those that desire to grow government. No one is arguing with you. We all know this. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:03:54 PM EDT
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Four pages of people shouting at each other over someone who will never be president.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:04:48 PM EDT
[#44]
No, just no Sarah.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:05:24 PM EDT
[#45]
I'll vote if Palin runs
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:05:53 PM EDT
[#46]
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For Fucks Sake dude...do some investigating on your own....you are so far from the truth it is funny. Are you saying she did not quit the governorship to star on a reality-TV show...?-?-!-! What did she do in your world after she quit the governorship?-? I remember her going on a book-sale tour and starring in a reality-TV show...
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:06:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Nope
Cannibal conservatives will never run anything but the internet. Until the libs shut that down too. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:08:20 PM EDT
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Sarah Palin, and her family, are interesting. She is NOT Presidential material, however. Can't be near as bad as this clown/liar. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:08:39 PM EDT
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Yeah we get it, you've told us the same things in every one of your posts. But the fact that your ok with a machine a gun ban, but can't stand someone because someone said something in a campaign, yet never actually signed any anti-gun legislation is amazing. I say all that based off the fact that your correct about the "gun-show loophole". I for one don't remember that at all. You do not remember John freaking McCain ever running or campaigning on a "Close the gun show loophole" platform?-?-!-! Link I found that in five seconds on Google.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:16:01 PM EDT
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Four pages of people shouting at each other over someone who will never be president. I guess I am honestly, ,honestly bothered by the folks who hold her up as some sort of litmus test... "You have to think that Palin is the greatest conservative ever, or you are not a real conservative..." I don't know... For right or wrong, I think it is worth an argument to eliminate that stupid, idiotic, and retarded narrative...
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