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Posted: 1/24/2015 12:54:54 PM EDT
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How would modern day North Korea deal with them?
I don't know what they'd do 
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Posted: 1/24/2015 12:57:06 PM EDT
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I would like to substitute Vlad tHe impaler.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 12:59:29 PM EDT
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I would also bet that the average American, even in the 'hood, would be at least a foot taller than the average Roman soldier. It would like the Romans would be going up against giants. Giant guts maybe. No, not a foot taller. And absolutely not as well conditioned. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:02:47 PM EDT
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Correct. A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Correct. A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:03:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: They are given one order---Break up this riot as you would in Rome. What would the body count be? (Using their standard weapons and with their standard unit configuration---alla of cavalry, ballistae etc. )http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/84/29/9b8429ddac0cd87b9e9a47bf0eb8ffa4.jpg They legion would have one fatal flaw. Lack of understanding of the modern world. And a complete dependancy on their leaders for orders. They were not trained to think for themselves. So the second a legetus, or centurion's head or chest exploded from a magical booming scorcery. Things would go badly very quickly. I say this because the roman legion was never very good at differentiating between innocent and enemy. So they would piss off some shop owners by treating them as protestors and then things would get even worse. Think legionier thumps that old marines son I the head by mistake, and the old man goes marine on them with a shotgun or Rifle. He'll even a handgun would be devastating The firearm was a game changer for a reason |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:58:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:11:16 PM EDT
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Yeah, it wouldn't even get to the part where they had to face a few thugs with guns...the sight of electric lights, cars, multistory buildings and the cacophony of unique sounds in a modern city would probably panic most of the legion. Prominent wealthy Romans were often completely awestruck and humbled when entering Alexandria at the sight of the buildings and the gold and the general wealth displayed. Imagine how awestruck your average Roman would be dropped into even a modest modern city. To them, it would be as an unconquerable city built by the gods. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:16:16 PM EDT
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They legion would have one fatal flaw. Lack of understanding of the modern world. And a complete dependancy on their leaders for orders. They were not trained to think for themselves. So the second a legetus, or centurion's head or chest exploded from a magical booming scorcery. Things would go badly very quickly. Another flaw...no large open fields. Modern urban environments are filled with bottlenecks and streets. Not that ancient Legions never fought in the streets, but nothing approaching a modern city, even a smallish one. The Legions were not constructed, nor were the tactics of the day suited to, modern urban combat. Hell, the protesters have cell phones...the Legions do not. Even among a generally disorganized rabble like the protesters, the communications edge is monumental. Any organization on their part at all using these modern communication devices would immediately cause serious issues for the Legion. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:19:11 PM EDT
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They are given one order---Break up this riot as you would in Rome. What would the body count be?
(Using their standard weapons and with their standard unit configuration---alla of cavalry, ballistae etc. )http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/84/29/9b8429ddac0cd87b9e9a47bf0eb8ffa4.jpg Is that screen cap from a show? What show and worth watching? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:32:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the Romans ever face modern firearms? I'd have to guess they may have second thoughts if they hadn't and thier men started falling/bleeding from "magic wands" before getting into striking distance with their swords and clubs. I can tell you I'd rather get shot with a magic wand than have some guy swing a gladius into my neck/shoulder junction. I think most of the fear of death had been weeded out of your average veteran infantry type in the sword swinging days. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:35:27 PM EDT
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That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Correct. A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. You just gave the sum total of all the Roman campaigns. An individual soldier would have only been in one or two major battles, many not even that. They were human beings. Some were good soldiers and some were not. Because they came from a relatively affluent society for the time they had good equipment and good training. By all accounts they had fairly good discipline for the time. However, modern weapons are one hell of a force multiplier. Especially coupled with vehicles and communications. This scenario is only in doubt because we have them going up against ghetto idiots. I doubt we would be saying the same thing if they were going up against a southern or western community with armed citizens, many of them veterans. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 5:37:09 PM EDT
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Is that screen cap from a show? What show and worth watching? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are given one order---Break up this riot as you would in Rome. What would the body count be?
(Using their standard weapons and with their standard unit configuration---alla of cavalry, ballistae etc. )http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/84/29/9b8429ddac0cd87b9e9a47bf0eb8ffa4.jpg Is that screen cap from a show? What show and worth watching? Prepare yourself for awesomeness Rome |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 5:41:02 PM EDT
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They are given one order---Break up this riot as you would in Rome. What would the body count be?
(Using their standard weapons and with their standard unit configuration---alla of cavalry, ballistae etc. )http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/84/29/9b8429ddac0cd87b9e9a47bf0eb8ffa4.jpg Is that screen cap from a show? What show and worth watching? Prepare yourself for awesomeness Rome Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus The only two characters in that show that matter. 
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:16:40 PM EDT
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You just gave the sum total of all the Roman campaigns. An individual soldier would have only been in one or two major battles, many not even that. They were human beings. Some were good soldiers and some were not. Because they came from a relatively affluent society for the time they had good equipment and good training. By all accounts they had fairly good discipline for the time. However, modern weapons are one hell of a force multiplier. Especially coupled with vehicles and communications. This scenario is only in doubt because we have them going up against ghetto idiots. I doubt we would be saying the same thing if they were going up against a southern or western community with armed citizens, many of them veterans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Correct. A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. You just gave the sum total of all the Roman campaigns. An individual soldier would have only been in one or two major battles, many not even that. They were human beings. Some were good soldiers and some were not. Because they came from a relatively affluent society for the time they had good equipment and good training. By all accounts they had fairly good discipline for the time. However, modern weapons are one hell of a force multiplier. Especially coupled with vehicles and communications. This scenario is only in doubt because we have them going up against ghetto idiots. I doubt we would be saying the same thing if they were going up against a southern or western community with armed citizens, many of them veterans. Of course not. But up against a mostly unarmed, unemployed, uneducated and unskilled bunch of clowns---and the clowns are greatly outnumbered. 5800 men (and no mistake) vs what? 2000 hard core protestors, rioters--how many of those are women |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:21:13 PM EDT
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It would not be pretty sight on the road to Rome, MO.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:23:55 PM EDT
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1000 to 1500 men ... a short blade is no defense against a Glock .40. lol I beg to differ. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:24:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:27:04 PM EDT
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Not likely considering that they invented the modern world. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIf I were actually stupid enough to be there in the first place as a protestor, then around the 0:40 mark, I would think "Ok, this is a bad idea. I'm out." |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:28:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that screen cap from a show? What show and worth watching? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They are given one order---Break up this riot as you would in Rome. What would the body count be? (Using their standard weapons and with their standard unit configuration---alla of cavalry, ballistae etc. )http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/84/29/9b8429ddac0cd87b9e9a47bf0eb8ffa4.jpg Is that screen cap from a show? What show and worth watching? I am jealous of you. Because you will be getting to see it for the first time. Thirteen!
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:30:14 PM EDT
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:31:40 PM EDT
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That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Correct. A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. Indeed. IF they fell back from something new that they had never encountered, they would regroup, analyze the situation, form a plan, and act accordingly. It's incredibly naive to think that the Roman Legions, who were perhaps the all-time Masters of War, had nothing for a gang banger with a Glock. They would wreak hell and havoc. You can be sure of it. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:33:16 PM EDT
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Well, that was interesting. Quote HistoryYes, it was. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:33:52 PM EDT
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:36:38 PM EDT
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Of course not. But up against a mostly unarmed, unemployed, uneducated and unskilled bunch of clowns---and the clowns are greatly outnumbered. 5800 men (and no mistake) vs what? 2000 hard core protestors, rioters--how many of those are women Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. . A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. You just gave the sum total of all the Roman campaigns. An individual soldier would have only been in one or two major battles, many not even that. They were human beings. Some were good soldiers and some were not. Because they came from a relatively affluent society for the time they had good equipment and good training. By all accounts they had fairly good discipline for the time. However, modern weapons are one hell of a force multiplier. Especially coupled with vehicles and communications. This scenario is only in doubt because we have them going up against ghetto idiots. I doubt we would be saying the same thing if they were going up against a southern or western community with armed citizens, many of them veterans. Of course not. But up against a mostly unarmed, unemployed, uneducated and unskilled bunch of clowns---and the clowns are greatly outnumbered. 5800 men (and no mistake) vs what? 2000 hard core protestors, rioters--how many of those are women Agreed. The situation in red would be a completely different scenario, and one that the Legion would lose badly in. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:36:59 PM EDT
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I think moltov cocktails would probably fuck up a testudos day.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:42:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:47:09 PM EDT
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I'm not sure they would directly engage the protesters. More than likely cut off and surround the area. Start fires, cause panic, etc.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:48:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:50:56 PM EDT
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On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:55:50 PM EDT
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What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:58:38 PM EDT
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I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. They would loot in the shade.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:04:53 PM EDT
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I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. Archers need enough range to drop arrows onto their target or a hill to be effective at close range. at close range only the first rank or two could shoot at whites of the eye distances on flat ground. chances are tho a few people dying would be enough to stop most of the looting. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:08:28 PM EDT
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. The area would be on fire before a single man marched in. The equites Romani would kill them as the fled. The discipline of a Soldier actually makes them stand in defiance of the unknown. Modern world or third world shit hole it's all overwhelming to the senses- the mission and the man (together men) make the difference. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:20:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not likely considering that they invented the modern world. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Not likely considering that they invented the modern world. Police and news helicopters flying overhead, a garbage truck rumbling by.... They'd think the gods were bringing the end of the world.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:29:03 PM EDT
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. They would loot in the shade.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:31:19 PM EDT
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They;ed probably not last long against modern arms, and there is no telling how they would react to seeing a vehicle or modern lighting. On the other hand, modern FSA probably wouldn't last long against people who weren't cowed by the color of their skin and well accustomed to dealing with the cowardly posturing of ignorant savages... What is the size of a legion 5000-6000? 6000 guys with 10 years experiance killing people at the closest of close quarters against an unarmed rabble would be a slaughter. A couple of guys with AKs could take out three of them per trigger pull if they were in phallanxes. Standard 7.62x39 FMJ will go through atleast 3 people if not more. If they were in closed ranks 4 or 5 people would be enough to break them. There was alot of people shooting at the fire trucks trying to put out fires and shooting up into the air to keep the police hiding behind their vehicles during the looting. I'm not so sure about the part in bold. The shields the Legionnaires carried were tougher than you might think. And the average cohort had archers of their own. I wouldn't count on FSA standing their ground under a hail of arrows, AKs or no. I think it's a case where cohesion and leadership could carry the day. They would loot in the shade.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:35:53 PM EDT
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Indeed. IF they fell back from something new that they had never encountered, they would regroup, analyze the situation, form a plan, and act accordingly. It's incredibly naive to think that the Roman Legions, who were perhaps the all-time Masters of War, had nothing for a gang banger with a Glock. They would wreak hell and havoc. You can be sure of it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would flee in terror and confusion at the sight of the modern world. Correct. A pickup truck with three or four guys in the bed with semi autos (either pistols or rifles) or shotguns would break any Roman formation pretty damn quick. That would give the rioters an undeniable force multiplier but you'd be naive if you think that men who had fought and marched and killed and watched people die appallingly all their lives would just break formation and run away with the first casualty. As if they never faced war elephants, war dogs, incendiary pigs, scythed chariots, horse archers and cataphracts, balista and onagers, blue celts fighting naked and high on druid potions, northern berserkers in uncontrollable bloodlust trance and battle-axes that cleave man and horse in two. War, killing and dying was their business and they were its professionals. Indeed. IF they fell back from something new that they had never encountered, they would regroup, analyze the situation, form a plan, and act accordingly. It's incredibly naive to think that the Roman Legions, who were perhaps the all-time Masters of War, had nothing for a gang banger with a Glock. They would wreak hell and havoc. You can be sure of it. They would have put archers on the high ground with orders to kill all magic wand bearers. You can bet they'd make use of captured weapons, too. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:36:39 PM EDT
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Blood and guts everywhere with some notable crucifixions I'm guessin'?
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:40:56 PM EDT
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If Ferguson rioters think white people are bad now they will be in for a shit fit once the Romans enslaved them, that was kind of the Roman MO.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:40:59 PM EDT
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I imagine Kirk Douglas and the Citizens of Fergusonua standing up to the Roman Legions, and it goes something like this:
"I'm Spartacus." Splat. "I'm Spartacus." Splat. "I'm not Spartacus." Splat. "What da fuck, homeboy?" Splat. Etc., etc. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:43:38 PM EDT
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If Ferguson rioters think white people are bad now they will be in for a shit fit once the Romans enslaved them, that was kind of the Roman MO. Enslaved them, burned down their city (which were usually later rebuilt and filled with Roman colonists), etc. Fun times for everyone!
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:45:34 PM EDT
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Hilarious idea! But I do not think it would work. Roman tactics were to stay in close formation and wait for the enemy to advance. They would then stab them at close range. Such tactics would not work well in the presence of firearms. Their close formation would lead to mass casualties.
By the time the Huns emerged, such tactics were already obsolete, as their horse archers would kill them from a distance. The same tactics were used by the Mongols. That said, modern police would be more than capable of breaking up protests, preferably right when it starts. All it takes is the will to do so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiw0fw_sJOk |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:46:26 PM EDT
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Even in a FSA shithole like Ferguson there would be a few dozen veterans that have been trained in weapons and possibly be combat harden. There also would be some gang bangers harden to street thugery.
With a little bit of organization and a few modern weapons they could kick some ass. The Romans weapons, communication, intelligence and transportation would be far below the level of present day third world militaries. You would assume they had discipline but I think that would break in the face of modern weapons. They would have no real experience in how to deal with the threat. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:47:15 PM EDT
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Not too high. After the first one had their head caved in by a sword, or was pierced by a spear, the rest would scatter quickly. The Legions would anticipate that and surround the entire town, so that nobody would escape. All the perpetrators would die and many of thier friends and relatives would end up dead or enslaved. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:47:25 PM EDT
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If 100 are sent, what will 98 do?
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:49:20 PM EDT
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Well, that was interesting. Quote HistoryThats the most orderly riot i have ever seen looks staged. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:49:31 PM EDT
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They'd encircle the town. Drive the protesters into a kill zone. Those left alive would be crucified on telephone, power or light poles. Mind you, once those with firearms start using them, they could panic the legionnaires. Legionnaires would need about 5 minutes to figure out how out how to use firearms. They'd figure out the fine points later. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:52:30 PM EDT
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Legionnaires would need about 5 minutes to figure out how out how to use firearms. They'd figure out the fine points later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They'd encircle the town. Drive the protesters into a kill zone. Those left alive would be crucified on telephone, power or light poles. Mind you, once those with firearms start using them, they could panic the legionnaires. Legionnaires would need about 5 minutes to figure out how out how to use firearms. They'd figure out the fine points later. They'd grab a few FSA and start chopping off bits of them them until they were told how the guns worked. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:56:38 PM EDT
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I would also bet that the average American, even in the 'hood, would be at least a foot taller than the average Roman soldier. It would like the Romans would be going up against giants.  
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