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Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:29:01 PM EDT
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Dead serious. Ukraine is a made up country that consists of land stolen from Russia, Poland, Romania, etc. My grandparents were Poles from Lwow (hohols call is "Lviv", the animals they are). Anyway, the sooner they gone, the better off we'll all be.
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So the "other side" are Nazis, and you consider them to be subhuman animals that need to be "gone"?

Golly, that sounds so familiar.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:31:46 PM EDT
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  We're 14 trillion dollars in debt.  Let's concentrate on paying our debt down and dealing with our own problems. If we keep heading down the road we're on we won't be able to afford to arm our own troops much less those of another country halfway around the world.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.


I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.

  We're 14 trillion dollars in debt.  Let's concentrate on paying our debt down and dealing with our own problems. If we keep heading down the road we're on we won't be able to afford to arm our own troops much less those of another country halfway around the world.


Ahhh.....I see what you're REALLY saying!

You're saying that we should use economic sanctions and also pump up the oil production to ruin RUSSIA's economy, so that THEY can't afford to fight in Ukraine.

And THEN hit them with the one-two punch of arming the Ukrainians!

Yep, I see what you're saying....
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.




I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.



 
We're 14 trillion dollars in debt.  Let's concentrate on paying our debt down and dealing with our own problems. If we keep heading down the road we're on we won't be able to afford to arm our own troops much less those of another country halfway around the world.


 



Ok, so lets start selling arms to Ukraine.
And Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe.

 



What is it, 50%-60% of Germany's Natural Gas comes from Russia. Let's replace that we NG from USA.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:45:23 PM EDT
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May as well renew that offensive after the Saudi king died. If oil doesn't go up soon, they'll still be afloat, but riding on a stink pickle.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:46:11 PM EDT
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Ok, so lets start selling arms to Ukraine.

And Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe.  

What is it, 50%-60% of Germany's Natural Gas comes from Russia. Let's replace that we NG from USA.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.


I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.

  We're 14 trillion dollars in debt.  Let's concentrate on paying our debt down and dealing with our own problems. If we keep heading down the road we're on we won't be able to afford to arm our own troops much less those of another country halfway around the world.

 

Ok, so lets start selling arms to Ukraine.

And Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe.  

What is it, 50%-60% of Germany's Natural Gas comes from Russia. Let's replace that we NG from USA.
You realize this is already happening, right?
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:46:22 PM EDT
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In Soviet Ukraine, work makes you free. The twitter account for Novorussia2015 has the slogan Freedom and Work on their emblem...



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/512878971067703296/gongtelS.jpeg



https://twitter.com/novorussia2015



Where have we seen that before, hmm?
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In Novorossiya

 



Work is it's own reward!
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:46:46 PM EDT
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May as well renew that offensive after the Saudi king died. If oil doesn't go up soon, they'll still be afloat, but riding on a stink pickle.
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May as well renew that offensive after the Saudi king died. If oil doesn't go up soon, they'll still be afloat, but riding on a stink pickle.


I hope to see a new round of sanctions soon as well.
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I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.





  We're 14 trillion dollars in debt.  Let's concentrate on paying our debt down and dealing with our own problems. If we keep heading down the road we're on we won't be able to afford to arm our own troops much less those of another country halfway around the world.



 





Ok, so lets start selling arms to Ukraine.





And Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe.  





What is it, 50%-60% of Germany's Natural Gas comes from Russia. Let's replace that we NG from USA.


You realize this is already happening, right?


MOAR!

 
 







Link Posted: 1/23/2015 10:59:22 PM EDT
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Your heart's in the right place, but we must allow them enough money to keep their territory safe from Chinese aggression using only conventional means. You don't want to live in a world where China is bold enough to go north for ports and oil, collapsing Russia down to its (millennia view) traditional size.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:00:03 PM EDT
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I honestly believe this has real potential to be the first major proxy war of the 21st century. If we supply Ukraine with AT and AA munitions plus aircraft the Russians will respond with force on the ground in a country wide strike. Giving Ukraine any military support is a clear escalation to the Russian Govt and military. If we were to do anything at all I would suggest commiting before they do, with a few armored divisions and squadrons of f15s. Make it known without a doubt that Russian military intervention means a shooting war between us and them.
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go all in or go home,nice way assert our superpower status.

but our president is a super sized PUSSY and I doubt he has balls let alone enough to do this right

 
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:05:18 PM EDT
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Be more funny if the CIA were to acquire some Kornets or RPG-30s for the Ukrainians and have the Russians get blown to shreds with their own weapons.
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I wish the US would send them a few loads of TOWs rather than to the FSA.


Obligatory fuck Russia.


Be more funny if the CIA were to acquire some Kornets or RPG-30s for the Ukrainians and have the Russians get blown to shreds with their own weapons.


What is Ukrainian for muhjahadeen?
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:21:53 PM EDT
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Novorossiya. One of the few 'countries' with the balls to stand up against Nazism. One of the few to say "Never Again".
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Backed by a country that hosts one of the largest populations of Neo-Nazis in the world.

 



Sounds legit.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:27:50 PM EDT
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I'm pro-American, but I live in California.

We should turn this into another Afghanistan for Russia.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:29:12 PM EDT
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons
have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard
Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed
Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday.

"While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a
great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars,
equipment and communications devices,”...

http://itar-tass.com/en/world/772859
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:33:36 PM EDT
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There were M4 pattern rifles,which are produced by Fort in Ukraine,in the terminal.

The US has supplied counter-battery radar and other non-lethal aid.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:34:07 PM EDT
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...

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TAR is owned directly by the Russian government.



Where are the pictures? NATO uniforms? Last time I checked the Ukranians are using TTsKO and Multicam. Russian special operations units also use multicam, as do many mall ninjas from many other countries.  Proves nothing.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:35:37 PM EDT
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Backed by a country that hosts one of the largest populations of Neo-Nazis in the world.  

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Novorossiya. One of the few 'countries' with the balls to stand up against Nazism. One of the few to say "Never Again".
Backed by a country that hosts one of the largest populations of Neo-Nazis in the world.  

Sounds legit.


How bout we MOOB and stay out of this conflict?

Too many unknown players involved.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:37:58 PM EDT
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TAR is owned directly by the Russian government.

Where are the pictures? NATO uniforms? Last time I checked the Ukranians are using TTsKO and Multicam. Russian special operations units also use multicam, as do many mall ninjas from many other countries.  Proves nothing.
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...
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TAR is owned directly by the Russian government.

Where are the pictures? NATO uniforms? Last time I checked the Ukranians are using TTsKO and Multicam. Russian special operations units also use multicam, as do many mall ninjas from many other countries.  Proves nothing.



Reported by TASS.  Have another source?
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:39:30 PM EDT
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...



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Did these NATO Uniforms and American weapons happen to come from Georgia?

 









Bushmaster M4s captured by Russians in Georgia








































Georgian Armed Forces' Uniform during the Russians Invasion





















Gee, will you look at that! NATO uniforms and American weapons! And they captured a shit ton of it from Georgia durinf their invasion.




The fucking Russians could be planting that shit.


 
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:41:47 PM EDT
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Every time the Russians open their mouths, and show how fucking stupid they are, I'm more convinced their space program was more fake than Dolly Parton's tits.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:44:22 PM EDT
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Every time the Russians open their mouths, and show how fucking stupid they are, I'm more convinced their space program was more fake than Dolly Parton's tits.
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In before someone here comes up with a Russian photo of Dolly's tits seen from space.  
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:44:34 PM EDT
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LOL, a pseudo nation made up of gangsters, criminals, and real Nazis is going to carry the mantle of 'Never Again'?
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This is now a  Syria thread.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:48:20 PM EDT
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There were M4 pattern rifles,which are produced by Fort in Ukraine,in the terminal.

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Is that the pics with the clean ammo? Everything is covered with debris, but the ammo is pristine.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:49:32 PM EDT
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Every time the Russians open their mouths, and show how fucking stupid they are, I'm more convinced their space program was more fake than Dolly Parton's tits.
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What? You don't believe them?
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:50:15 PM EDT
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Did these NATO Uniforms and American weapons happen to come from Georgia?  

Bushmaster M4s captured by Russians in Georgia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Georgia/1447558.jpg

http://oi36.tinypic.com/2441r9x.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/Miscellaneous/20080817180857ENLUS0145321912189965.jpg

Georgian Armed Forces' Uniform during the Russians Invasion

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-guvBBgGz_io/Uis9VZ7JdPI/AAAAAAAAdoE/O-7GEJEydhM/s1600/42996961iq9.jpg

http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20080808&t=2&i=5503372&w=&r=2008-08-08T224849Z_01_L7680404_RTRUKOP_0_PICTURE8

Gee, will you look at that! NATO uniforms and American weapons! And they captured a shit ton of it from Georgia durinf their invasion.

The fucking Russians could be planting that shit.
 
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...
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Did these NATO Uniforms and American weapons happen to come from Georgia?  

Bushmaster M4s captured by Russians in Georgia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Georgia/1447558.jpg

http://oi36.tinypic.com/2441r9x.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/Miscellaneous/20080817180857ENLUS0145321912189965.jpg

Georgian Armed Forces' Uniform during the Russians Invasion

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-guvBBgGz_io/Uis9VZ7JdPI/AAAAAAAAdoE/O-7GEJEydhM/s1600/42996961iq9.jpg

http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20080808&t=2&i=5503372&w=&r=2008-08-08T224849Z_01_L7680404_RTRUKOP_0_PICTURE8

Gee, will you look at that! NATO uniforms and American weapons! And they captured a shit ton of it from Georgia durinf their invasion.

The fucking Russians could be planting that shit.
 


The United States supposedly gave Ukraine non-lethal military aid already.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/world/europe/amid-intensifying-requests-american-military-aid-to-ukraine-stalls.html?_r=0


Only $5.7 million of that has been spent on items already delivered.

That includes 2,000 sets of body armor, 1,000 helmets, 1,929 first-aid kits, 9,000 uniforms, 1,000 neck warmers, 80 radios and seven robots to handle enemy explosives. The Pentagon has also provided 300,000 meals ready to eat, funded by a separate, $3 million emergency account.

Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:59:01 PM EDT
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I honestly believe this has real potential to be the first major proxy war of the 21st century. If we supply Ukraine with AT and AA munitions plus aircraft the Russians will respond with force on the ground in a country wide strike. Giving Ukraine any military support is a clear escalation to the Russian Govt and military. If we were to do anything at all I would suggest commiting before they do, with a few armored divisions and squadrons of f15s. Make it known without a doubt that Russian military intervention means a shooting war between us and them.
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This.
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Has to be a site staff troll account. Occasionally it's funny,like the cousin fucking and so forth,other times it reaches a bit too far.
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Novorossiya. One of the few 'countries' with the balls to stand up against Nazism. One of the few to say "Never Again".

 



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Damn straight. It's only a matter of time before Petro starts holding rallies and blaming all the country's problems on Jews and Commies, then the camps open, before long we're once again trying to open a western front against a Nazi regime while Russia has them bogged down in the east. Those who forget history are doomed to....something something. Before we waste all the American blood we should be sending Novorussia all the support we can.

  Not sure if trolling or one of the true believers of russian propaganda we have on arfcom, leaning towards trolling




http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Alleged-links-to-neo-Nazi-groups-of-fighters-on-both-sides-of-Ukrainian-civil-war-374981


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-who-are-russian-neo-nazi-groups-fighting-separatists-1463489

 



Has to be a site staff troll account. Occasionally it's funny,like the cousin fucking and so forth,other times it reaches a bit too far.


Diesel banged his cousin?  That's some depraved shit right there.  I was trying to give him a pass on the Frathouse gay antics and the HS locker room rape, but cousin fucking crosses the line.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 12:05:49 AM EDT
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It's on again in Ukraine...
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/23/major-ukraine-rebel-offensive-looming-as-death-toll-surpasses-5000/

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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,” he said. "We also found publications in European languages, including on religious matters.”

Apart from that, "we found dead bodies in NATO uniforms under the debris in the new terminal. Personal belongings indicated that these people were foreign citizens contracted by private military companies who operated under the disguise of Ukrainian subversive groups,” he said.

http://itar-tass.com/en/world/772859



 
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Citing a Pro-Russian news agency, I see. Which side are you on?
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 12:13:20 AM EDT
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I may or may not have talked with a couple pretty stand up guys that have talked of sending pretty nice chunks of change to Ukrainian friends and family to pay for equipment to support their efforts with fighting off the pro-Russian dip shits.
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TAR is owned directly by the Russian government.

Where are the pictures? NATO uniforms? Last time I checked the Ukranians are using TTsKO and Multicam. Russian special operations units also use multicam, as do many mall ninjas from many other countries.  Proves nothing.
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...
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TAR is owned directly by the Russian government.

Where are the pictures? NATO uniforms? Last time I checked the Ukranians are using TTsKO and Multicam. Russian special operations units also use multicam, as do many mall ninjas from many other countries.  Proves nothing.



Kind of what I was thinking.  Where is the pictures,  show some proof.
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...

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In other news, false flag operation by Nazi forces posing as Poles on 31 August 1939, against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe. The goal was to use the staged attack as a pretext for invading Poland.

 
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In other news, false flag operation by Nazi forces posing as Poles on 31 August 1939, against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe. The goal was to use the staged attack as a pretext for invading Poland.  
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Dead bodies in NATO uniforms and a great number of US-made weapons have been recovered from under the debris of the Donetsk airport, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the defense ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said on Thursday."While examining the building of the Donetsk airport, we found a great number of American firearms, assault rifles and hand mortars, equipment and communications devices,”...
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In other news, false flag operation by Nazi forces posing as Poles on 31 August 1939, against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe. The goal was to use the staged attack as a pretext for invading Poland.  



That was in line with what I was thinking about.  Need another information source on this story.
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 12:31:21 AM EDT
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Retarded Russians -but I repeat myself- will see the pics and "news" and latch onto  and further the "Nazi junta funded by Jews and armed by NATO" nonsense.
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I'm sorta in the No Shits Given camp on this one.
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  I have an even better idea.

Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.

If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.


I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.

  I have an even better idea.

Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.

If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.


This - but try to make money doing it.
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Even for the 21st century, a coordinated grad battery attack is pretty serious firepower. No way Russia is not behind this.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.




I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.



  I have an even better idea.



Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.



If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.





This - but try to make money doing it.

Money is the main goal. Fucking Russia is the secondary goal.

 
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"NATO Uniforms"


Yeah, I'm sure there were a bunch of PMCs there wearing NATO UKFOR patches on their uniforms.

Does anyone believe this shit?
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So the "other side" are Nazis, and you consider them to be subhuman animals that need to be "gone"?

Golly, that sounds so familiar.
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Dead serious. Ukraine is a made up country that consists of land stolen from Russia, Poland, Romania, etc. My grandparents were Poles from Lwow (hohols call is "Lviv", the animals they are). Anyway, the sooner they gone, the better off we'll all be.


So the "other side" are Nazis, and you consider them to be subhuman animals that need to be "gone"?

Golly, that sounds so familiar.

Germany Russia just needs some breathing room/living space. Poland Ukraine is historically part of Russia that was wrongly stolen after WWI the Cold War by the evil Jews.

Only the vision of glorious Hitler Putin can save the world from the international Jewish conspiracy that controls the Western Powers.
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Get both and start funneling more advanced anti-tank missiles like the Spike through Poland.
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I wish the US would send them a few loads of TOWs rather than to the FSA.


Obligatory fuck Russia.


Be more funny if the CIA were to acquire some Kornets or RPG-30s for the Ukrainians and have the Russians get blown to shreds with their own weapons.


Would be "even more funny" if it was a "Project Eldest Son" deal that got rigged weapons into the Russian puppet "militias".


Get both and start funneling more advanced anti-tank missiles like the Spike through Poland.

Georgians killed plenty of tanks with AT4's.  No need to give the Russians any idea what our advanced capabilities are.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving the Georgians a shit ton of aid.  AT4's and old Tow's.  Maybe a few predator drone's flown by "contractors"  as counter battery strikes inside Russia.

I know it's not Georgia.  Your words were "advanced" anti-tank weapons.  No need for that when AT-4's were killing non export Russian Tanks just fine in Georgia.
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"BREAKING NEWS!!!! CHESTY MOTHERFUCKIN' PULLER FOUND LEADING NATO WARRIORS FROM TRIPLE CANOPY!  AMERICA FIXED THE GIG!!!!!!!"
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Dead serious. Ukraine is a made up country that consists of land stolen from Russia, Poland, Romania, etc. My grandparents were Poles from Lwow (hohols call is "Lviv", the animals they are). Anyway, the sooner they gone, the better off we'll all be.
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Novorossiya. One of the few 'countries' with the balls to stand up against Nazism. One of the few to say "Never Again".

 



http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/avdubya/Mobile%20Uploads/1409233791_zps3986af0b.jpg
Damn straight. It's only a matter of time before Petro starts holding rallies and blaming all the country's problems on Jews and Commies, then the camps open, before long we're once again trying to open a western front against a Nazi regime while Russia has them bogged down in the east. Those who forget history are doomed to....something something. Before we waste all the American blood we should be sending Novorussia all the support we can.

  Not sure if trolling or one of the true believers of russian propaganda we have on arfcom, leaning towards trolling




http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Alleged-links-to-neo-Nazi-groups-of-fighters-on-both-sides-of-Ukrainian-civil-war-374981


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-who-are-russian-neo-nazi-groups-fighting-separatists-1463489

 

Dead serious. Ukraine is a made up country that consists of land stolen from Russia, Poland, Romania, etc. My grandparents were Poles from Lwow (hohols call is "Lviv", the animals they are). Anyway, the sooner they gone, the better off we'll all be.


Whoop-de-fuckin-doo. You ACTUALLY mean," How DARE those Ukrainians steal back the land we stole from them!" My dad's Ruthenian, and if he were younger he'd be quite happy killing Russians. Hell, if I could speak the language, I'D go and be happy killing Russians.
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  I have an even better idea.

Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.

If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.


I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.

  I have an even better idea.

Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.

If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.



Thanks for supporting the decline of the 2nd amendment and appeasing the anti gunners by ruining my hopes for a Izhmash Ak.

Moms demand action and the Brady campaign thank, and appreciate people like you.
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Georgians killed plenty of tanks with AT4's.  No need to give the Russians any idea what our advanced capabilities are.

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I wish the US would send them a few loads of TOWs rather than to the FSA.


Obligatory fuck Russia.


Be more funny if the CIA were to acquire some Kornets or RPG-30s for the Ukrainians and have the Russians get blown to shreds with their own weapons.


Would be "even more funny" if it was a "Project Eldest Son" deal that got rigged weapons into the Russian puppet "militias".


Get both and start funneling more advanced anti-tank missiles like the Spike through Poland.

Georgians killed plenty of tanks with AT4's.  No need to give the Russians any idea what our advanced capabilities are.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving the Georgians a shit ton of aid.  AT4's and old Tow's.  Maybe a few predator drone's flown by "contractors"  as counter battery strikes inside Russia.


This thread is about Ukraine, not Georgia and notice that I specifically did not mention any US-made weapons. Kornet and RPG-30 are Russian, Spike is Israeli.
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Thanks for supporting the decline of the 2nd amendment and appeasing the anti gunners by ruining my hopes for a Izhmash Ak.

Moms demand action and the Brady campaign thank and appreciate people like you.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.


I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.

  I have an even better idea.

Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.

If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.



Thanks for supporting the decline of the 2nd amendment and appeasing the anti gunners by ruining my hopes for a Izhmash Ak.

Moms demand action and the Brady campaign thank and appreciate people like you.


You should be happy. Otherwise, you would have spent money on Slav Shit.
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Thanks for supporting the decline of the 2nd amendment and appeasing the anti gunners by ruining my hopes for a Izhmash Ak.

Moms demand action and the Brady campaign thank, and appreciate people like you.
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I have a shocking idea:  why don't we stay the hell out of Ukraine and let them deal with their own shit.


I have an even better idea, let's arm the Ukrainians and enact a trade embargo against the Russians.

  I have an even better idea.

Let's sell the shit out of our Natural Gas and Oil to Western Europe, sell a shit ton of arms to Ukraine, and enact a trade embargo against Russia.

If we can take the Heating Oil and Gas market away from Russia. Their fucked BIG TIME.



Thanks for supporting the decline of the 2nd amendment and appeasing the anti gunners by ruining my hopes for a Izhmash Ak.

Moms demand action and the Brady campaign thank, and appreciate people like you.


A complete trade embargo with Russia would have nothing to do with the Second Amendment and is well within the Constitutional authority of Congress.

An arms-specific embargo is on shakier ground. But a general trade embargo is not.

Fuck Russia.
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So, why aren't we seeing pictures of these foreign contractors?  And their western weapons?  Also, on that bullshit propaganda news site, it listed 600 Ukrainian soldiers killed in the attack...can they at least be consistent with their lies?
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Worked pretty good in the 30's.


We need to lift the ban on even more petroleum products out of the US. For the crude exportation, we have a deep water oil port off Louisiana's coast that can pump a super tanker full of oil as fast as it can take the crude on. That would help hurt Russia.
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Wtf areNATO uniforms? All member states have their own individual uniforms.
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