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You're know you're from KS when your house moves but your 12 cars don't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good luck. If this passes we'll give you 6 months of no "Kansas trailer trash" jokes. You already don't give KS trailer trash jokes. You're know you're from KS when your house moves but your 12 cars don't. You act like KS is KY, TN, or MS. |
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Quoted: Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. View Quote |
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Good luck. If this passes we'll give you 6 months of no "Kansas trailer trash" jokes. You already don't give KS trailer trash jokes. You're know you're from KS when your house moves but your 12 cars don't. You act like KS is KY, TN, or MS. Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. |
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. View Quote There is only one or two counties in the state that could be even considered to have gang areas, and those guys DGAF anyways. Look at the attempted robbery of a KC area gun store, in a good suburb of town no less. Living on the KS/MO state line with one of those counties I'm not too concerned about it. If I lived in KS still, I'd keep my permit up to date just for traveling out of state, but I do like the idea of not needing one while at home. |
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The two problems I see in getting this passed 1. News and anti-gunners claiming how dangerous this will be (see a few posts above) 2. The loss of income from fees. Kansas has budget problems and the bloodsuckers may not want to lose the income. You just have to take one look at Vermont and see what a bloodbath that place is with no license carry. View Quote Oh the horror of Vermont, oh the horror. I honestly see #2 being more of an obstacle than anti-gunners. |
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Good. NFA shall issue and less than 10 years since the GOP snuffed Sebelious shall issue carry veto. The way libertarians carry on like democraps wouldn't be surprising they want Sebelious and Goznell instead.
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Guess what. They wont be criminals till they *use* the gun now, thanks to this law.Even if nknow beyond a shadow of a doubt someone is up to no good, theres not shit that can be done. If you think the risk of getting caught with an illegal pistols hasnt stopped someone from carrying, you need to come down from your gated communities and spend some time in the hood. No petty criminal wants to get busted with a gun in his waistband. Now? Its not illegal, so why not carry a gun? Remember, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. That corner filled with homies? Now its a corner filled with homies who can legally carry guns . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Freedom is scary. It is not like the criminals carry without a permit now anyways. Quoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Freedom is scary. It is not like the criminals carry without a permit now anyways. Guess what. They wont be criminals till they *use* the gun now, thanks to this law.Even if nknow beyond a shadow of a doubt someone is up to no good, theres not shit that can be done. If you think the risk of getting caught with an illegal pistols hasnt stopped someone from carrying, you need to come down from your gated communities and spend some time in the hood. No petty criminal wants to get busted with a gun in his waistband. Now? Its not illegal, so why not carry a gun? Remember, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. That corner filled with homies? Now its a corner filled with homies who can legally carry guns . This is a bill pertaining to CARRYING a gun, not legally buying one. felon in possession = jail Stolen gun = jail straw purchase = jail x2 using a gun while committing a crime = jackpot See a pattern yet? I'm sure 87% of people here "look like they are up to something" but until the actually do something illegal, then they should not be considered a criminal because of the cargo pants they wear. Ask some LE about gang bangers & guns. They will tell you the same thing. If the thug wants a gun he will have one. Period. They will try to ditch it before contact with LE. This bill changes nothing about legally buying a firearm, nor does it change any laws about whom can legally have one. If you want to sooth your feels, check the states sentencing for convicted criminals with guns. Just to save time, Here ya go!!. To put it in perspective.. Thug gets popped for dope with a gun. He will get charged for drugs and possibly intent to sell. Oh look, he's now a felon in possession of a gun..bang. He eats that charge as well. What? you say that the gun was stolen too? Of course he resisted arrest and will get hit with that plus the assault on the officer charge. Thugs are not afraid of breaking the law to carry. They are afraid of getting caught with a (stolen) gun while committing a crime. |
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This is a bill pertaining to CARRYING a gun, not legally buying one. felon in possession = jail Stolen gun = jail straw purchase = jail x2 using a gun while committing a crime = jackpot See a pattern yet? I'm sure 87% of people here "look like they are up to something" but until the actually do something illegal, then they should not be considered a criminal because of the cargo pants they wear. Ask some LE about gang bangers & guns. They will tell you the same thing. If the thug wants a gun he will have one. Period. They will try to ditch it before contact with LE. This bill changes nothing about legally buying a firearm, nor does it change any laws about whom can legally have one. If you want to sooth your feels, check the states sentencing for convicted criminals with guns. Just to save time, Here ya go!!. To put it in perspective.. Thug gets popped for dope with a gun. He will get charged for drugs and possibly intent to sell. Oh look, he's now a felon in possession of a gun..bang. He eats that charge as well. What? you say that the gun was stolen too? Of course he resisted arrest and will get hit with that plus the assault on the officer charge. Thugs are not afraid of breaking the law to carry. They are afraid of getting caught with a (stolen) gun while committing a crime. View Quote Shhh....I want to see him stumble some more. |
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Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? I've spent a lot of time deer hunting in Kansas and I've never dated a batshit crazy chick from there. My buddy has married and divorced 4 of them though. |
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Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? You live there. You tell me what the hell is wrong with them. |
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I am proud to be a Kansas CCW Instructor, but I would have no problem with my pretty certificate from the Attorney General becoming a nicely framed memento.
GO JAYHAWKS! GET THAT FREEDOM!!! |
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. View Quote Funny, this is the same argument that was offered by one of the very few anti-CCW LEO's I work with before IL won it's freedom in the 7th. It fails on multiple levels as cited by The_Waabit |
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Quoted: You're know you're from KS when your house moves but your 12 cars don't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good luck. If this passes we'll give you 6 months of no "Kansas trailer trash" jokes. You already don't give KS trailer trash jokes. You're know you're from KS when your house moves but your 12 cars don't. No, in Kansas the house costs $25k and there is $200k worth of farm equipment parked behind it. |
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Awesome!
How will this national carry permit that everybody wants going to affect Kansas? |
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Congrats Kansas and Good luck!
There's a WVCDL/NRA backed bill being introduced in the WV legislature that will give us the same, hoping it passes.
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Quoted: You live there. You tell me what the hell is wrong with them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? You live there. You tell me what the hell is wrong with them. Maybe we be smarter than we look. |
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Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? Horse chicks. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? Horse chicks. You know, come to think about it. I think you are correct! |
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Nice work, Kansas!
Now that Perry is out we have a chance, but there are still plenty of "Big Law" statists left in Austin that will fight this to the death. Kinda like many here.
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. View Quote Since these people care about the law? I'm pretty sure "every swingin dick gang banger" is already carrying if they want to regardless of a permit. |
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Quoted: And now they wont need to. I'm not saying I'm opposed to the law, I'm just keenly aware of unintended consequences. I hope it passes to be sure, we need that established somewhere to set precedence that it isnt the end of times to have unlicensed CCW. I'm just thinking about ALL possibilities rather than shoving my head in the sand and bleating out like a little sheep. ETA: OH! VT allows leagl owners to carry without a permit. I didnt realize that! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Yep, cause them darn criminal gang bangers all applied for and received their CCL. / And now they wont need to. I'm not saying I'm opposed to the law, I'm just keenly aware of unintended consequences. I hope it passes to be sure, we need that established somewhere to set precedence that it isnt the end of times to have unlicensed CCW. I'm just thinking about ALL possibilities rather than shoving my head in the sand and bleating out like a little sheep. ETA: OH! VT allows leagl owners to carry without a permit. I didnt realize that! I stopped reading a the part in red. Because anying after "I'm not opposesed, I'm just....." is nothing but a load of bullshit. |
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Good going neighbor to the West! I hope your freedom makes it way to MO too although we just got open carry for CCW holders.
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You know, come to think about it. I think you are correct! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? Horse chicks. You know, come to think about it. I think you are correct! I am. |
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Sorry. I blame the girl I dated from Gove county. Batshit crazy. Not to derail my own thread, but I don't get something. Every time I meet somebody from outside the state, they always have this tale of dating some bat shit crazy chick from KS? WTF is going on? Horse chicks. You know, come to think about it. I think you are correct! I am. She had a horse, her sister was a nurse and her mom was a teacher. I should have seem in coming. I do have some pretty good memories of going through Phillipsburg during the day and driving through an ice storm on I80. That girl knew how to make time go by faster. |
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Good going neighbor to the West! I hope your freedom makes it way to MO too although we just got open carry for CCW holders. View Quote Uh what? We have had open carry. It wAsnt just legalized for ccw permit holders. No permit required in Mo. To open carry. Our new RKBA amendment that passed last year actually took out language pertaining to concealed carry being banned. We should by all intents and purposes have constitutional carry now according to our new RKBA amendment. |
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Just got this e-mail from NRA-ILA.
Yesterday, Senate Bill 45 passed in the Kansas Senate by a 31 to 7 vote. This permitless carry legislation will now be transmitted to the Kansas House of Representatives where it will be assigned to committee. Authored by Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R-34), SB 45 recognizes Kansans’ freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a Kansas concealed carry handgun license (CCHL). SB 45 is a necessary update to concealed carry in Kansas, allowing law-abiding gun owners the ability to better protect themselves and their loved ones. In Kansas, it is already legal to carry a firearm openly, as long as the individual is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. However, under current law, if a firearm becomes covered by a coat or if a woman prefers to carry a firearm for self-protection in her purse, he or she would need to possess a CCHL. This legislation gives Kansans the freedom to choose the best method of carrying for them, based on their attire, gender and/or physical attributes. However, this legislation would also keep in place the current permitting system so that people who obtain a permit could still enjoy the reciprocity agreements that Kansas has with other states. Please thank those state Senators who voted in support of this important Right to Carry reform and begin contacting your state Representative, encouraging him or her to vote for SB 45 when it comes before them. Your NRA-ILA will keep you updated as this bill is assigned to a House committee. View Quote One down, One to go. Then signed. Boom! |
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Hell yes! Congrats Kansas!
WV's constitutional carry bill passed the Senate today also. 32-2. On to the House. |
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Just got this e-mail from NRA-ILA. One down, One to go. Then signed. Boom! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Just got this e-mail from NRA-ILA. Yesterday, Senate Bill 45 passed in the Kansas Senate by a 31 to 7 vote. This permitless carry legislation will now be transmitted to the Kansas House of Representatives where it will be assigned to committee.
Authored by Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R-34), SB 45 recognizes Kansans’ freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a Kansas concealed carry handgun license (CCHL). SB 45 is a necessary update to concealed carry in Kansas, allowing law-abiding gun owners the ability to better protect themselves and their loved ones. In Kansas, it is already legal to carry a firearm openly, as long as the individual is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. However, under current law, if a firearm becomes covered by a coat or if a woman prefers to carry a firearm for self-protection in her purse, he or she would need to possess a CCHL. This legislation gives Kansans the freedom to choose the best method of carrying for them, based on their attire, gender and/or physical attributes. However, this legislation would also keep in place the current permitting system so that people who obtain a permit could still enjoy the reciprocity agreements that Kansas has with other states. Please thank those state Senators who voted in support of this important Right to Carry reform and begin contacting your state Representative, encouraging him or her to vote for SB 45 when it comes before them. Your NRA-ILA will keep you updated as this bill is assigned to a House committee. One down, One to go. Then signed. Boom! FUCK. YES! |
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Cool.
I met the KSRA president at a gun show in KCK years ago. If she's any indicator of the organization's character overall, I'm not all that surprised if KS will be getting constitutional carry. Way to go KS. |
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The latest note in the bill history is: Committee of the Whole - Be passed as amended So far all I can find is supplemental notes that state it is not legal for anyone under 21. http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2015_16/measures/sb45/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone hear if the House is voting on the bill today? So far all I can find is supplemental notes that state it is not legal for anyone under 21. http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2015_16/measures/sb45/ Wonder what those three amendments were that got shot down? |
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Quoted: Wonder what those three amendments were that got shot down? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone hear if the House is voting on the bill today? So far all I can find is supplemental notes that state it is not legal for anyone under 21. http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2015_16/measures/sb45/ Wonder what those three amendments were that got shot down? I will save you the time though, it was attempted democrat fuckery. |
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You can click on the PDF to the right and read the summary notes. I will save you the time though, it was attempted democrat fuckery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone hear if the House is voting on the bill today? So far all I can find is supplemental notes that state it is not legal for anyone under 21. http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2015_16/measures/sb45/ Wonder what those three amendments were that got shot down? I will save you the time though, it was attempted democrat fuckery. Saw them. I loled at their failure. |
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Looks like it will need one last stop for approval from the senate.
http://johncelock.com/kansas-constitutional-carry-2 While the bill has previously passed the state Senate, amendments from the House Federal and State Affairs Committee will require the bill to return to the Senate for final approval before it can head to Gov. Sam Brownback (R). The article has a better description of the attempted fuckery I referenced earlier. |
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Looks like it will need one last stop for approval from the senate. http://johncelock.com/kansas-constitutional-carry-2 While the bill has previously passed the state Senate, amendments from the House Federal and State Affairs Committee will require the bill to return to the Senate for final approval before it can head to Gov. Sam Brownback (R). The article has a better description of the attempted fuckery I referenced earlier. View Quote The Dem minority leader is beating the old 'it's for the children' drum. Fuck you, Louis! |
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As a life long Kansas resident, I would like to state, for the record, that:
Kansas sucks. It is to hot in the summer, and way to cold in the winter. The wind is always blowing and if it isn't a severe storm then it is a drought. The land is completely flat and there are only two trees in the entire state. It smells of buffalo shit, and it is so bad here it makes Alabama look like paradise. So any liberals thinking of escaping from their liberal state and moving here, don't do it, this place is worse than Hell. Avoid moving here at all costs. |
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Quoted: As a life long Kansas resident, I would like to state, for the record, that: Kansas sucks. It is to hot in the summer, and way to cold in the winter. The wind is always blowing and if it isn't a severe storm then it is a drought. The land is completely flat and there are only two trees in the entire state. It smells of buffalo shit, and it is so bad here it makes Alabama look like paradise. So any liberals thinking of escaping from their liberal state and moving here, don't do it, this place is worse than Hell. Avoid moving here at all costs. View Quote |
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Our Constitutional carry bill got vetoed.
We're counting on you now Kansas. I've said it many times, every state that gets const. carry makes it easier for the next. Go Kansas! |
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As a life long Kansas resident, I would like to state, for the record, that: Kansas sucks. It is to hot in the summer, and way to cold in the winter. The wind is always blowing and if it isn't a severe storm then it is a drought. The land is completely flat and there are only two trees in the entire state. It smells of buffalo shit, and it is so bad here it makes Alabama look like paradise. So any liberals thinking of escaping from their liberal state and moving here, don't do it, this place is worse than Hell. Avoid moving here at all costs. View Quote This. MO does have hills, but you don't want to mess with the ticks, skeeters, and chiggers! Excited to read when KS CC is on the books. |
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As a life long Kansas resident, I would like to state, for the record, that: Kansas sucks. It is to hot in the summer, and way to cold in the winter. The wind is always blowing and if it isn't a severe storm then it is a drought. The land is completely flat and there are only two trees in the entire state. It smells of buffalo shit, and it is so bad here it makes Alabama look like paradise. So any liberals thinking of escaping from their liberal state and moving here, don't do it, this place is worse than Hell. Avoid moving here at all costs. We also encourage big corporations to dump toxic waste in our streams. ANd we actively hunt and eat endangered species. Kansas sucks, stay away. |
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