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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:50:58 AM EDT
Sending your kid to school someday and using a 529 plan?
As of now your taxable income goes into the account at today's rates and has been guaranteed tax free upon withdrawal for tuition for your kids.

The current proposal suggest this income will now be taxed a second time upon withdrawal. This hits the middle class squarely.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2015/01/19/obamas-new-state-of-the-union-tax-hike-on-middle-class-529-college-savers/
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:53:14 AM EDT
[#1]
genius! tax everything, multiple times.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:54:43 AM EDT
[#2]
They were never the best of idea anyway for the middle class, but with the astronomical cost of education, double taxing the 529 is just ridiculous.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:02:16 AM EDT
[#3]
Commies gonna Commie.  Every time.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:08:52 AM EDT
[#4]
If you like your tax, you can keep your tax.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:13:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Don't need 529's no more, college is FREE y'all!
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:15:54 AM EDT
[#6]
HE, can't tax anything. Its just a talking point to get Hillary elected.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:16:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Ok, no one else has said it, so I will say it.



FBHO
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:17:20 AM EDT
[#8]
Fuck that BS! and fuck obama
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:20:19 AM EDT
[#9]
They'll never curtail government spending, so they have to tax everything. Even the things they said they wouldn't.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:20:40 AM EDT
[#10]
Have to pay for the "free" junior college somehow.  
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:20:46 AM EDT
[#11]
That really sucks.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:21:26 AM EDT
[#12]
Well, how else was going to give away 2 years of free community college.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:23:16 AM EDT
[#13]
So fuck that piece of shit. What is the best option right now then fo saving for a child's education?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:23:56 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:24:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Boehner will never stand for it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:25:25 AM EDT
[#16]
lol....how shocking.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:25:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:26:57 AM EDT
[#18]
Ah, I see you saved for 18 years for your sons tuition, lol give me half dat rayqwongela needs to get her overpriced medical billing and coding certificate.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:29:44 AM EDT
[#19]
But dont worry, your 401k is safe.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:30:58 AM EDT
[#20]
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Sense they aren't actually going to tax 529's probably still that probably.  However, if you wanted a tax advantage vehicle, you could open a brokerage account c/o "kids name" and buy some good municipal bonds and MLP's.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:33:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Suprised...nope
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:34:02 AM EDT
[#22]
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Well, how else was going to give away 2 years of free community college.
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Change your name to Gonzalez.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:34:18 AM EDT
[#23]
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But dont worry, your 401k is safe.
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Please explain to me the mechanism in which seizing 401k's makes any sense in terms of funding the .gov?  How do they turn that into $?

I ask #becausefinance.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:34:36 AM EDT
[#24]

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Sense they aren't actually going to tax 529's probably still that probably.  However, if you wanted a tax advantage vehicle, you could open a brokerage account c/o "kids name" and buy some good municipal bonds and MLP's.
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So fuck that piece of shit. What is the best option right now then fo saving for a child's education?





Sense they aren't actually going to tax 529's probably still that probably.  However, if you wanted a tax advantage vehicle, you could open a brokerage account c/o "kids name" and buy some good municipal bonds and MLP's.




 
Now who can argue with that?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:35:29 AM EDT
[#25]
It's okay, the government's going to give everyone a free [community] college education.

No need to save money or be responsible, just make sure your kids can keep a C+ average while they switch majors 5 times and spend 8 years drunk while working on their associate's degree in underwater basket weaving.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:36:25 AM EDT
[#26]
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Ok, no one else has said it, so I will say it.



FBHO
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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:37:53 AM EDT
[#27]
Basically, he's saying that it's not fair that some people's parents were responsible enough to start saving for college so their children don't have to incur debt.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:38:15 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Sending your kid to school someday and using a 529 plan?
As of now your taxable income goes into the account at today's rates and has been guaranteed tax free upon withdrawal for tuition for your kids.

The current proposal suggest this income will now be taxed a second time upon withdrawal. This hits the middle class squarely.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2015/01/19/obamas-new-state-of-the-union-tax-hike-on-middle-class-529-college-savers/
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No, you misread.

The original money will be taxed only once.  The increase in value over that amount will be taxed upon withdrawl, for any reason.  It used to be that this went untaxed if it was withdrawn to pay for college, but taxd if withdrawn to be used for any other reason.  Now this acount wil function the same as any other mutual fund type account . . . . which makes me wonder why you would choose it?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:39:23 AM EDT
[#29]


The problem with Socialism is that sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:41:09 AM EDT
[#30]
They're probably going to push for nationalizing college education.

Mark my words, 'progressives' will get to doing that soon.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:43:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:45:20 AM EDT
[#32]
Makes that ROTH IRA look a little less safe.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:50:40 AM EDT
[#33]
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Great... so much for those 529s I ALREADY FULLY-FUNDED for my kids.  

Yeah.  It's not fair that my wife and I saved and banked money to do that.
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You didn save that! you didn't do it without the gobernment. pay your fair share!
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:51:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:51:42 AM EDT
[#35]



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HE, can't tax anything. Its just a talking point to get Hillary elected.
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Evidently, HE can do any thing that pleases him.  There sure ain't no one going to do anything to stop it.......




Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:53:35 AM EDT
[#36]
but guys, we get myRA now!  its all good!
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:53:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 9:58:12 AM EDT
[#38]
529s are racist
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:00:29 AM EDT
[#39]
After the tax law change (which was made permanent in 2006), amounts withdrawn to pay for college were totally tax free.  529 plans thus became a kind of Roth IRA for college savings–you didn’t get any up front tax break (except maybe on your state income tax), but you could rest assured that your college nest egg’s growth would face no taxation when it came time to make tuition payments.



The Obama plan aims to turn back the clock, once again taxing earnings growth in 529 plans as ordinary income.  This is a direct and clear tax increase on middle class families sacrificing to save for college, and it’s likely to result in a mass divestment from this type of savings.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:03:50 AM EDT
[#40]
If you like your president, you can keep your president.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:04:47 AM EDT
[#41]
I mean if college is about to be free why do you need that college savings account?  Do you have bourgeoisie pipe-dreams of your children going to a private college and joining the proletariat opressors?  You need to check those thoughts and get with the the collectivist program, comrade, before I report you to the Stasi.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:05:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Fuck College, anyhow.  It's just druken debauchery and indoctrination.

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:06:09 AM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:06:54 AM EDT
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Basically, he's saying that it's not fair that some people's parents were responsible enough to start saving for college so their children don't have to incur debt.
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This.

Let's punish the responsible.

But hey, as I've been told many times here in GD there's absolutely no difference between R and D.

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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:07:10 AM EDT
[#45]
If you think your Roth IRA is safe, think again.  Just a matter of time  before the means test applies...and you got all that money without paying your fair share.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:07:40 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Sending your kid to school someday and using a 529 plan?
As of now your taxable income goes into the account at today's rates and has been guaranteed tax free upon withdrawal for tuition for your kids.

The current proposal suggest this income will now be taxed a second time upon withdrawal. This hits the middle class squarely.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2015/01/19/obamas-new-state-of-the-union-tax-hike-on-middle-class-529-college-savers/
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I left a copy of the article on my Obama voting co-workers desk chair.  He has a 529 for his kid already set up.  He is already realizing the four vote(s) in his household were a mistake.  This should push him over the edge.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:09:13 AM EDT
[#47]
Tell you what...just give me all your saved money and we will make college free!  deal?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:09:30 AM EDT
[#48]

Only suckers save money!!  

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:09:30 AM EDT
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Boehner will never stand for it.
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He is just as much a commie as Obama.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:10:51 AM EDT
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If you think your Roth IRA is safe, think again.  Just a matter of time  before the means test applies...and you got all that money without paying your fair share.
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we will see mass confiscation of 401Ks in our lifetime.
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