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will they take glock +2 extensions? That's all I run, or Arredondo +6 extensions.
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I shoot Glocks almost exclusively and really have to agree with you. The G3 G19s will rub a blister on my middle finger after a couple hundred rounds. It's an easy fix, but no pistol is perfect. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I can't shoot a glock got shit. I had a 19 for a short time. The forced position of the grip doesn't work for me. Meaning I don't like the finger grooves. Now if I could find a gen 2 at a good price, I'd probably buy it just to buy Magpul mags for it. Therefore, I'll continue to buy Springfield whose mags I can get on sale for right at $20. I've often heard this, and when I put shooters under the microscope more often than not there is no problem, except in the head of the shooter. Not saying this is the case with you, I am saying that this is probably the case if you are shooting other guns - 1911s, XDs, HK, Beretta, SIG, BHP without issues. The differences in contemporary handguns are not so great (or even noticeable) where someone can shoot a 1911 ok and not be able to shoot a Glock proficiently. I just don't like the forced finger placement with the grooves in the grip. It's just not where my hand naturally falls when picking it up. I would find my fingers to be resting on the tips of the groove versus the valley. Dremels make dreams come true when it comes to Glocks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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While you can find deals and get factory mags for $20, most stores carry them for $30-$40. Imagine how many people will buy P-Mags at Cabelas when they're a few feet away from their regular price factory mags. They'll definitely have the "fuck it, why not" appeal that will have them flying off the shelf. Glock might even drop their price on their pistols and only include one mag. They also might cut mag production if they're being undercut by Magpul. I'm curious to see what happens now too. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What if Glock turned to Magpul and contracted their mags as OEM? Speculation is fun isn't it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Yup. I've been wanting to build a G17-type gun for a while, I just can't get over the grip angle. Buddy of mine handed me his reduced G22 he swears is the same angle as a 1911, and it's still an unnatural draw. If Glock offered a frame like the Robar Tri-grip I wouldn't even consider bothering with the LW frame. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Another part bringing me closer to my dream of a Glock using no OEM parts. Unity slide, Lonewolf frame, ZEV internals, and now magpul mags. If someone REALLY wanted to bring a game-changer to market they'd design a full-cocked striker assembly. Like this? http://i.imgur.com/zDuphi3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QsHbEqe.jpg I really cannot stand Glocks due to the grip angle and Glock people, but recognized reliability, simplicity, and that parts were available for them everywhere. I made this with as few parts possible. I'll probably sell my factory mags for Magpul just so I can keep factory parts out of it. Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame and slide, storm lake barrel, mix of internals, Storm Lake barrel, and Dawson Precision sights front and rear. Yup. I've been wanting to build a G17-type gun for a while, I just can't get over the grip angle. Buddy of mine handed me his reduced G22 he swears is the same angle as a 1911, and it's still an unnatural draw. If Glock offered a frame like the Robar Tri-grip I wouldn't even consider bothering with the LW frame. people that have that issue seem to be those that have lots of time behind a 1911. muscle memory takes over and if you're used to the flat backstrap of a 1911, your hand will fight the palm swell of a glock. for new shooters or those used to other types of handguns, the glocks tend to point very naturally |
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people that have that issue seem to be those that have lots of time behind a 1911. muscle memory takes over and if you're used to the flat backstrap of a 1911, your hand will fight the palm swell of a glock. for new shooters or those used to other types of handguns, the glocks tend to point very naturally View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Another part bringing me closer to my dream of a Glock using no OEM parts. Unity slide, Lonewolf frame, ZEV internals, and now magpul mags. If someone REALLY wanted to bring a game-changer to market they'd design a full-cocked striker assembly. Like this? http://i.imgur.com/zDuphi3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QsHbEqe.jpg I really cannot stand Glocks due to the grip angle and Glock people, but recognized reliability, simplicity, and that parts were available for them everywhere. I made this with as few parts possible. I'll probably sell my factory mags for Magpul just so I can keep factory parts out of it. Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame and slide, storm lake barrel, mix of internals, Storm Lake barrel, and Dawson Precision sights front and rear. Yup. I've been wanting to build a G17-type gun for a while, I just can't get over the grip angle. Buddy of mine handed me his reduced G22 he swears is the same angle as a 1911, and it's still an unnatural draw. If Glock offered a frame like the Robar Tri-grip I wouldn't even consider bothering with the LW frame. people that have that issue seem to be those that have lots of time behind a 1911. muscle memory takes over and if you're used to the flat backstrap of a 1911, your hand will fight the palm swell of a glock. for new shooters or those used to other types of handguns, the glocks tend to point very naturally NO. |
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Quoted: The 33 round Glock mags are goofy long. A 20-22 rounder may hit the sweet spot, if it had a built in grip extension type deal on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They need to make 20-30 round glock mags The 33 round Glock mags are goofy long. A 20-22 rounder may hit the sweet spot, if it had a built in grip extension type deal on it. |
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Another part bringing me closer to my dream of a Glock using no OEM parts. Unity slide, Lonewolf frame, ZEV internals, and now magpul mags. If someone REALLY wanted to bring a game-changer to market they'd design a full-cocked striker assembly. Like this? http://i.imgur.com/zDuphi3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QsHbEqe.jpg I really cannot stand Glocks due to the grip angle and Glock people, but recognized reliability, simplicity, and that parts were available for them everywhere. I made this with as few parts possible. I'll probably sell my factory mags for Magpul just so I can keep factory parts out of it. Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame and slide, storm lake barrel, mix of internals, Storm Lake barrel, and Dawson Precision sights front and rear. Yup. I've been wanting to build a G17-type gun for a while, I just can't get over the grip angle. Buddy of mine handed me his reduced G22 he swears is the same angle as a 1911, and it's still an unnatural draw. If Glock offered a frame like the Robar Tri-grip I wouldn't even consider bothering with the LW frame. people that have that issue seem to be those that have lots of time behind a 1911. muscle memory takes over and if you're used to the flat backstrap of a 1911, your hand will fight the palm swell of a glock. for new shooters or those used to other types of handguns, the glocks tend to point very naturally NO. http://www.glovesandclover.com/1911/pistol-angles.jpg I have arched mainspring housings in most of my 1911s and they point about the same for me as my Glocks. <shrug> |
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If they turn out to be reliable, and less than $10, this might make me FINALLY get off my ass and buy a Glock 17.. I like the pistol (I've had my friends Gen 4 for a few months and have shot it quite a bit), I just don't need one.. but it would be fun to have a pistol and 30 magazines so I can make a range trip and never have to load a single mag at the bench.
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Another part bringing me closer to my dream of a Glock using no OEM parts. Unity slide, Lonewolf frame, ZEV internals, and now magpul mags. If someone REALLY wanted to bring a game-changer to market they'd design a full-cocked striker assembly. Like this? http://i.imgur.com/zDuphi3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QsHbEqe.jpg I really cannot stand Glocks due to the grip angle and Glock people, but recognized reliability, simplicity, and that parts were available for them everywhere. I made this with as few parts possible. I'll probably sell my factory mags for Magpul just so I can keep factory parts out of it. Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame and slide, storm lake barrel, mix of internals, Storm Lake barrel, and Dawson Precision sights front and rear. Yup. I've been wanting to build a G17-type gun for a while, I just can't get over the grip angle. Buddy of mine handed me his reduced G22 he swears is the same angle as a 1911, and it's still an unnatural draw. If Glock offered a frame like the Robar Tri-grip I wouldn't even consider bothering with the LW frame. people that have that issue seem to be those that have lots of time behind a 1911. muscle memory takes over and if you're used to the flat backstrap of a 1911, your hand will fight the palm swell of a glock. for new shooters or those used to other types of handguns, the glocks tend to point very naturally NO. http://www.glovesandclover.com/1911/pistol-angles.jpg Even though they are at the same grip angle but Glock doesn't have a beaver tail making it unnatural. Although a $20 fix goes a long way. (Big 1911 shooter here switching to Glocks) |
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I'll predict that after these sell like gangbusters, a Glock 19 length magazine will not be far behind.
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Another part bringing me closer to my dream of a Glock using no OEM parts. Unity slide, Lonewolf frame, ZEV internals, and now magpul mags. If someone REALLY wanted to bring a game-changer to market they'd design a full-cocked striker assembly. Like this? http://i.imgur.com/zDuphi3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QsHbEqe.jpg I really cannot stand Glocks due to the grip angle and Glock people, but recognized reliability, simplicity, and that parts were available for them everywhere. I made this with as few parts possible. I'll probably sell my factory mags for Magpul just so I can keep factory parts out of it. Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame and slide, storm lake barrel, mix of internals, Storm Lake barrel, and Dawson Precision sights front and rear. Yup. I've been wanting to build a G17-type gun for a while, I just can't get over the grip angle. Buddy of mine handed me his reduced G22 he swears is the same angle as a 1911, and it's still an unnatural draw. If Glock offered a frame like the Robar Tri-grip I wouldn't even consider bothering with the LW frame. people that have that issue seem to be those that have lots of time behind a 1911. muscle memory takes over and if you're used to the flat backstrap of a 1911, your hand will fight the palm swell of a glock. for new shooters or those used to other types of handguns, the glocks tend to point very naturally NO. http://www.glovesandclover.com/1911/pistol-angles.jpg When that graphic was made how was the placement of the green line determined? eta parallel to front strap? |
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They need to make 20-30 round glock mags The 33 round Glock mags are goofy long. A 20-22 rounder may hit the sweet spot, if it had a built in grip extension type deal on it. You know they suck, right? |
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While you can find deals and get factory mags for $20, most stores carry them for $30-$40. Imagine how many people will buy P-Mags at Cabelas when they're a few feet away from their regular price factory mags. They'll definitely have the "fuck it, why not" appeal that will have them flying off the shelf. Glock might even drop their price on their pistols and only include one mag. They also might cut mag production if they're being undercut by Magpul. I'm curious to see what happens now too. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What if Glock turned to Magpul and contracted their mags as OEM? Speculation is fun isn't it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What if Glock made 1911s and Colt made Glocks? Mind blown yet? Someone in an HK thread was talking about how MecGar made shit magazines for Sigs (I know, HK....weird de-rail) and how factory Sig mags were engineering masterpieces Then someone informed him MecGar = Sig SethP's post - [http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_29/155392_why_are_the_mags_so_expensive_.html |
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I agree with everything stated in the OP except for the ergonomics suck and the trigger sucks. I absolutely love the shelf in a glock trigger. I have become accustomed to sitting on the shelf and the solid tactile reset you feel. The trigger pull is not the lightest but it is consistent and works. The ergonomics... depends. I prefer the grip angle of glocks because it allows me to cant my support hand down farther than any other pistol which I have found makes it way more stable and naturally more pointable since your thumb is thrust forward farther.
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After experiencing shitty reliability of non-OEM magazines in my GLOCKs, I'm reluctant to put any magazine in a GLOCK except those made by GLOCK.
That being said, Magpul makes awesome stuff, and competition is never bad for a free market. I hope the mags are awesome and I hope Magpul makes an assload of $$$ off them. Profit is the reward of satisfying another person's need. |
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Lol the guns and mags could be free. Ammo is where the real cost is. Well unless you don't shoot much
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Well, they certainly did establish an edge in a few categories: AD/ND's Kabooms Front sights that fall off and plunger tubes Getting people to drink the koolaid View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Glock has had an edge on competition ever since it burst on the scene. Well, they certainly did establish an edge in a few categories: AD/ND's Kabooms Front sights that fall off and plunger tubes Getting people to drink the koolaid Same could be said about 1911's |
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I agree with everything stated in the OP except for the ergonomics suck and the trigger sucks. I absolutely love the shelf in a glock trigger. I have become accustomed to sitting on the shelf and the solid tactile reset you feel. The trigger pull is not the lightest but it is consistent and works. The ergonomics... depends. I prefer the grip angle of glocks because it allows me to cant my support hand down farther than any other pistol which I have found makes it way more stable and naturally more pointable since your thumb is thrust forward farther. View Quote And you can make the trigger as light as you want for like 30 bucks. |
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I don't understand people freaking out over this. Yea it's cool but Jesus how many mags do u buy? Even if you buy 10 you save like 100 bucks over Oem. That's not even 1 range trip for me. I love glock but damn this isn't
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Glock oem mags are cheap. Now magpul is making slightly cheaper mags. Ok.
Isn't the ammo still the most expensive part of a gun by 2 or 3 orders of magnitude?
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why do people think saving a few dollars will be any kind of "game changer"?
VP9 sells a few hundred dollars less than expected, that's what qualifies as a game changer |
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I don't understand people freaking out over this. Yea it's cool but Jesus how many mags do u buy? Even if you buy 10 you save like 100 bucks over Oem. That's not even 1 range trip for me. I love glock but damn this isn't THAT cool. I'm scared for when the single stack 9 or carbine comes out. View Quote During the last panic regular Pmags were going for $100 a piece. Glock OEM were all over but around$75 and up . Point is from an investment stand point it's has much better margins. Of course depends on reliability. |
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They need to make 20-30 round glock mags The 33 round Glock mags are goofy long. A 20-22 rounder may hit the sweet spot, if it had a built in grip extension type deal on it. You know they suck, right? They also cost more than the magazine! How does a small amount of plastic from Arredondo cost $40 while the magazine it goes on costs $20? And then you have issues with followers hanging up in the mag tube, since it isn't continuous anymore. A unibody high capacity mag would be better than an extended base pad, and net-net cheaper overall. |
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Wow....then the single stack 9mm magazines will really be inexpensive!
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This interests me because I'm a miser and I like the idea of a reliable, quality magazine for my G17/19 that's $12 or so instead of $27-$34 depending on the vendor.
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Not bad...though it'd be great one day if handguns based off military models accepted a common magazine. Ignoring those with extreme grip angles/unconventional mag releases, it could definitely be done and make things easier supply chain-wise.
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Except that 87% of pistol owners will never buy more mags than came with the pistol in the box. View Quote This should be bolded and highlighted. 87% isn't far off, and it may he higher than that. At the shop that I work at, I see about 80-150 pistols sold a week. I would say that only about ten of those people who purchase pistols care about extra magazines. I've told people that a used pistol comes with 3-5 spare magazines before, and they have told me they don't need more than one, and they want a discount because they don't want spare magazines. |
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This should be bolded and highlighted. 87% isn't far off, and it may he higher than that. At the shop that I work at, I see about 80-150 pistols sold a week. I would say that only about ten of those people who purchase pistols care about extra magazines. I've told people that a used pistol comes with 3-5 spare magazines before, and they have told me they don't need more than one, and they want a discount because they don't want spare magazines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Except that 87% of pistol owners will never buy more mags than came with the pistol in the box. This should be bolded and highlighted. 87% isn't far off, and it may he higher than that. At the shop that I work at, I see about 80-150 pistols sold a week. I would say that only about ten of those people who purchase pistols care about extra magazines. I've told people that a used pistol comes with 3-5 spare magazines before, and they have told me they don't need more than one, and they want a discount because they don't want spare magazines. I think these might play a role in it to: 1) Mags are cheaper online. Buying a gun online requires shipping + FFL fees and you can't see it in person. Mags? No real reason not to get those online. 2) Maybe they have a bunch of mags already? Maybe they're on their 2-4th model of the same handgun, and they already have a stash of mags. That being said, I do agree that most people only have a few mags. For target shooting you don't need more than 8 or so mags. Obviously, having a lot of mags is a good thing though. But for most people who only shoot a bit, it doesn't make much sense. |
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I really wish they would have come out with M&P mags. $30 a mag is
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I think these might play a role in it to: 1) Mags are cheaper online. Buying a gun online requires shipping + FFL fees and you can't see it in person. Mags? No real reason not to get those online. 2) Maybe they have a bunch of mags already? Maybe they're on their 2-4th model of the same handgun, and they already have a stash of mags. That being said, I do agree that most people only have a few mags. For target shooting you don't need more than 8 or so mags. Obviously, having a lot of mags is a good thing though. But for most people who only shoot a bit, it doesn't make much sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Except that 87% of pistol owners will never buy more mags than came with the pistol in the box. This should be bolded and highlighted. 87% isn't far off, and it may he higher than that. At the shop that I work at, I see about 80-150 pistols sold a week. I would say that only about ten of those people who purchase pistols care about extra magazines. I've told people that a used pistol comes with 3-5 spare magazines before, and they have told me they don't need more than one, and they want a discount because they don't want spare magazines. I think these might play a role in it to: 1) Mags are cheaper online. Buying a gun online requires shipping + FFL fees and you can't see it in person. Mags? No real reason not to get those online. 2) Maybe they have a bunch of mags already? Maybe they're on their 2-4th model of the same handgun, and they already have a stash of mags. That being said, I do agree that most people only have a few mags. For target shooting you don't need more than 8 or so mags. Obviously, having a lot of mags is a good thing though. But for most people who only shoot a bit, it doesn't make much sense. What I have found is that most of the public that buys guns do not think that they will need spare magazines, or have the desire to get spare magazines. I would say that maybe 5% of all people who buy pistols say that they are going to order more magazines online. But for the most part, one spare mag is enough for the general public. Hell, I was amazed to see how many Ruger products are sold when I started working in firearms sales. Going by Arfcom I would have never dreamed it. |
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