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Posted: 4/20/2015 3:57:36 PM EDT
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Possible line for Olly (the young Night's Watch recruit whose family was killed by wildlings and who offed Ygritt)....
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:02:20 PM EDT
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So murder Stannis and marry off Shireen. Much easier to kill Stannis by trick or treachery than by hoping Roose Bolton can beat him on the field. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And he's smart enough to know Stannis is one of the last people that would ever play ball. Murder Stannis, huh? I guess he might as well arrange to have Daenerys, Tommen, and Myrcella murdered while he's at it. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Murder Stannis, huh? I guess he might as well arrange to have Daenerys, Tommen, and Myrcella murdered while he's at it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And he's smart enough to know Stannis is one of the last people that would ever play ball. Murder Stannis, huh? I guess he might as well arrange to have Daenerys, Tommen, and Myrcella murdered while he's at it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:08:49 PM EDT
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FINALLY we get to see the Boltons next week. And speaking of the Boltons...... Click To View Spoiler 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:18:27 PM EDT
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He needs to marry Myrcella to become King. I don't think he believes in magic so he almost certainly discounts Dany. Tommen is almost certainly marked for death. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And he's smart enough to know Stannis is one of the last people that would ever play ball. Murder Stannis, huh? I guess he might as well arrange to have Daenerys, Tommen, and Myrcella murdered while he's at it.
I doubt it. It's just right now I wouldn't think she's very high on his list of priorities. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:18:48 PM EDT
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Sophie Turner is now 19 and Maisie Williams turned 18 last week.
Kind of hard to believe they were 12 and 13 when they started on this journey. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:37:05 PM EDT
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Possible line for Olly (the young Night's Watch recruit whose family was killed by wildlings and who offed Ygritt).... Click To View Spoiler I'm having a hard time putting this idea into context. ETA: nevermind. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:32:01 PM EDT
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I thought they did a good job bringing the Night's Watch election down to TV length. Loved that they gave Maester Aemon the decisive vote.
Brienne is badass, but maybe a bit misguided. Arya is destined to kill a lot of people. Still my favorite character - book or show - and it's not even close. Marrying Sansa to Ramsay is difficult to imagine. Maybe she could slit his throat in his sleep. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:54:36 PM EDT
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So murder Stannis and marry off Shireen. Much easier to kill Stannis by trick or treachery than by hoping Roose Bolton can beat him on the field. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And he's smart enough to know Stannis is one of the last people that would ever play ball. that's easy to say, but stannis has a difficult-to-assess supernatural ace in the hole. furthermore, stannis is in the field--how do you get close to him, if you're littlefinger? and whether you fail or succeed, how do you keep the trail of breadcrumbs from pointing back at you? arguably, defeating bolton (who is not particularly liked in the north) before he has a chance to consolidate is a more plausible strategy. bolton has little political power--it's all muscle. he looks tough, but he has no actual allies and no ante for the larger game. plus, littlefinger can use stannis against bolton--it's hard to go the other route, since littlefinger has no muscle. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that's easy to say, but stannis has a difficult-to-assess supernatural ace in the hole. furthermore, stannis is in the field--how do you get close to him, if you're littlefinger? and whether you fail or succeed, how do you keep the trail of breadcrumbs from pointing back at you? arguably, defeating bolton (who is not particularly liked in the north) before he has a chance to consolidate is a more plausible strategy. bolton has little political power--it's all muscle. he looks tough, but he has no actual allies and no ante for the larger game. plus, littlefinger can use stannis against bolton--it's hard to go the other route, since littlefinger has no muscle. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:39:16 PM EDT
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When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:41:29 PM EDT
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:43:58 PM EDT
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"Meryn Fucking Trant!?! The greatest swordsman in the world was killed by Meryn Fucking Trant!?!"
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel.
"A stable-boy could take on Meryn Fucking Trant!"
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Posted: 4/20/2015 6:51:21 PM EDT
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Possible line for Olly (the young Night's Watch recruit whose family was killed by wildlings and who offed Ygritt).... Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. He's Cersei's lapdog, and Arya may have heard about his treatment of her sister (at Joffrey's command). |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 7:56:38 PM EDT
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Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Close. It's actually "Ser Taryn Mant." |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:06:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Close. It's actually "Ser Taryn Mant." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Close. It's actually "Ser Taryn Mant."  Not sure if serious. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:10:04 PM EDT
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Close. It's actually "Ser Taryn Mant."
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Meryn_Trant Not sure if serious. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. He was also the one that used to beat Sansa for Joffrey's amusement. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:15:02 PM EDT
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He was also the one that used to beat Sansa for Joffrey's amusement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. He was also the one that used to beat Sansa for Joffrey's amusement. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:34:58 PM EDT
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"Meryn Fucking Trant!?! The greatest swordsman in the world was killed by Meryn Fucking Trant!?!"
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel.
"Any boy whore with a sword could beat three Meryn Trants" |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 8:52:56 PM EDT
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He was also the one that used to beat Sansa for Joffrey's amusement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Ser Meryn Trant. She primarily wants him dead for killing her swordmaster, Syrio Forel. He was also the one that used to beat Sansa for Joffrey's amusement. Regarding the quotes from above, I highly doubt anyone outside of Joffrey's court knew about that, since word getting out at that time might have resulted in Robb cutting off one of Jaime's appendages in retaliation. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:23:20 PM EDT
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Well speaking of things we CAN discuss without spoilers. How much of a badass is Brienne? That was pretty awesome, and it once again highlighted that she is very good at kicking people's asses. I kind of hate how they are portraying Pod as a bumbling idiot though. I never quite got that sense in the books. UNLESS the show is setting up Pod for some sort of heroic act later on. They seem to be cultivating a lot of sympathy for him on the show, I wonder if he will be killed off this season? (this is not a spoiler, it's speculation) pod is definitely getting shafted. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:27:13 PM EDT
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That's funny. Either the show is intentionally showing Cersei to be flat lying to Jaime or they made a mistake. I'd lean toward the first one because I believe the writers know for a fact that there are a great many GoT fans that nerd out over stuff like this. Bodes poorly for Jaime, IMO. Or someone with close access to Sansa got his little hands on it and sent it to Cersi, impling that is was from Dorne, to cause tension between the Lanisters and Dorne. Damn, that makes the most sense of all. not really. he had his little hands full saving his own ass |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:33:03 PM EDT
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So murder Stannis and marry off Shireen. Much easier to kill Stannis by trick or treachery than by hoping Roose Bolton can beat him on the field. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And he's smart enough to know Stannis is one of the last people that would ever play ball. except he's got a red woman that seems to see through trickery fairly well, and even without her, would be happy to cut littlefinger in half just for his past crimes |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:41:57 PM EDT
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Lindybeige has a good channel with discussions of ancient/medieval weapons and other things, along with some nerddom:
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:42:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sophie Turner is now 19 and Maisie Williams turned 18 last week. Kind of hard to believe they were 12 and 13 when they started on this journey. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Maisie_Williams_and_Sophie_Turner_2009.jpg  |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:23:47 AM EDT
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Ahh that's cute. The Lannisters will be really embarrassed when that cute little waif comes back across the narrow sea and starts handing them their asses, one at a time or in small groups. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sophie Turner is now 19 and Maisie Williams turned 18 last week. Kind of hard to believe they were 12 and 13 when they started on this journey. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Maisie_Williams_and_Sophie_Turner_2009.jpg Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:31:46 AM EDT
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Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sophie Turner is now 19 and Maisie Williams turned 18 last week. Kind of hard to believe they were 12 and 13 when they started on this journey. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Maisie_Williams_and_Sophie_Turner_2009.jpg Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:38:11 AM EDT
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Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. The prophecy never said anything about the Valonqar being Cersei's little brother. One of the most supported theories is that it is in fact Sandor Clegane that leads to Cersei's death. Sandor Clegane is Gregor Clegane's little brother. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 10:50:56 AM EDT
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The prophecy never said anything about the Valonqar being Cersei's little brother. One of the most supported theories is that it is in fact Sandor Clegane that leads to Cersei's death. Sandor Clegane is Gregor Clegane's little brother. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. The prophecy never said anything about the Valonqar being Cersei's little brother. One of the most supported theories is that it is in fact Sandor Clegane that leads to Cersei's death. Sandor Clegane is Gregor Clegane's little brother. That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:46:48 PM EDT
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That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. The prophecy never said anything about the Valonqar being Cersei's little brother. One of the most supported theories is that it is in fact Sandor Clegane that leads to Cersei's death. Sandor Clegane is Gregor Clegane's little brother. That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. Good point. To discuss why Sandor Clegane might make sense, book spoilers would be involved. But for show-watchers, let's just say his death hasn't been verified. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 2:01:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. The prophecy never said anything about the Valonqar being Cersei's little brother. One of the most supported theories is that it is in fact Sandor Clegane that leads to Cersei's death. Sandor Clegane is Gregor Clegane's little brother. That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. the theories name a lot of people who aren't little brothers. The idea is that valonqar can just mean a younger sibling. I personally think its Jaime or Tyrion, but... Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 2:33:03 PM EDT
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My new shirts came today:
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Posted: 4/21/2015 8:17:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 9:10:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 9:24:26 PM EDT
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Body double > dany Quote Historydem lips, dem tittays |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:20:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sophie Turner is now 19 and Maisie Williams turned 18 last week. Kind of hard to believe they were 12 and 13 when they started on this journey. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Maisie_Williams_and_Sophie_Turner_2009.jpg Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? She is Josey Fuckin' Wales of Westoros. We got something in this territory called a Winterfell Boatride. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:29:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could Arya Stark be the Valonqar? Not unless Ned Stark was fucking Joanna Lannister and nobody knew about it. The prophecy never said anything about the Valonqar being Cersei's little brother. One of the most supported theories is that it is in fact Sandor Clegane that leads to Cersei's death. Sandor Clegane is Gregor Clegane's little brother. That wouldn't make much sense. And Arya's not anybody's little brother anyway. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:52:05 AM EDT
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It's a misconception that Valonqar means "little brother". It's a rough translation from Valerian anyway. In fact amongst the super geeky ASOIAF community, they are 60/40 on whether it's meant to be a male or female.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:06:21 AM EDT
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The real little brother to fear is Rickon. Raised on betrayal, bloodshed, chaos.
If he ever gets his act together, he's probably going to have a serious case of redass and more issues than Reader's Digest... |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:48:19 AM EDT
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The real little brother to fear is Rickon. Raised on betrayal, bloodshed, chaos. If he ever gets his act together, he's probably going to have a serious case of redass and more issues than Reader's Digest... He's going to be like the old Kings of Winter; cold, hard, brutal men. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 2:06:19 AM EDT
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So I'm wondering guys, who do you want to see ice Cersei when it's her time to go? From a thematic standpoint Jaime would make the most sense. But Margery is a close second. An offering to R'hllor would be my preferred ending for her, though
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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:57:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I'm wondering guys, who do you want to see ice Cersei when it's her time to go? From a thematic standpoint Jaime would make the most sense. But Margery is a close second. An offering to R'hllor would be my preferred ending for her, though Arya is my first choice. By the time she comes back to Westeros, Cersei may be the only surviving member of her hit list. Tyrion as the alternate. |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:05:30 AM EDT
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She doesn't have King's blood so R'hllor doesn't want her. Arya is my first choice. By the time she comes back to Westeros, Cersei may be the only surviving member of her hit list. Tyrion as the alternate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I'm wondering guys, who do you want to see ice Cersei when it's her time to go? From a thematic standpoint Jaime would make the most sense. But Margery is a close second. An offering to R'hllor would be my preferred ending for her, though Arya is my first choice. By the time she comes back to Westeros, Cersei may be the only surviving member of her hit list. Tyrion as the alternate. It pretty much has to be Tyrion. Of course that might mean GRRM will have Mance Rader do it, you never know. |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:12:39 AM EDT
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Couple speculations:
I don't know if it will happen, but I sure hope that show Cersei descends into madness. That would make for some great drama. Also, I think Jon Snow's arc is going to be moving forward pretty quickly this season. I am not sure how Samwell's arc is going to shape up, I honestly don't see him going anywhere. They said this season there is going to be like 5 major character deaths. I don't know what they consider a major character. Here's my guesses: Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:18:30 AM EDT
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Couple speculations: I don't know if it will happen, but I sure hope that show Cersei descends into madness. That would make for some great drama. Also, I think Jon Snow's arc is going to be moving forward pretty quickly this season. I am not sure how Samwell's arc is going to shape up, I honestly don't see him going anywhere. They said this season there is going to be like 5 major character deaths. I don't know what they consider a major character. Here's my guesses: Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:37:02 AM EDT
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Well, at least the Hound's off the list now. We know he's got to return. Sandor Clegane, FTW! |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 12:06:09 PM EDT
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Question... When Arya is saying the names of the people she wants to kill, who was the last name and what did he do? "Cersie, the Mountain, Walder Frey, ???" Well, at least the Hound's off the list now. We know he's got to return. Sandor Clegane, FTW! How do we know that "he's got to return"? |
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