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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 6:55:10 PM EDT
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Hmmm, how many highschool kids on Christmas break would it take to run a DDOS attack on 1k of IP addresses?
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 6:55:37 PM EDT
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Good one!
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:12:06 PM EDT
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They did it from outside the country?
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then why don't we just delete their AOL account?  

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i have not been able to determine their transit connection in terms of bandwidth.  i wouldn't even call it a peering connection, as their country-wide network is (topologically) far smaller than what we have in our R&D labs on one floor of one building.   but i am guessing that they are getting an E1 (2.048Mb/s) or E3 (34Mb/s) or so from China Unicom.  their border router is definitely a cisco box; that was determined by the author (a NANOG guy) of the link i posted above.  
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i don't see how they "stole" 100TB of Sony data over an E1 or E3 link.    
it would take a really, really, really long time...

ar-jedi


  The part in bold, I've heard others question this as well. Some are doubting NK's ability to download that much info so quickly. I'm not a doubting Thomas or conspiracy theorist, and NK definitely had the motive to carry this out (Cui bono), but can some knowledgeable geek explain how they carried it out in a way that luddite like me can understand?

They did it from outside the country?



That is the obvious answer.


Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:14:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:19:12 PM EDT
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I've been blocking access from their IP's to our network for a couple years now. It's pretty bad funny that my little data center is a larger peer on the Internet than an entire country.
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FIFY  
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:23:52 PM EDT
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Don't fuck with the USA, we got some bad ass hackers here.



Fuck North Korea. Fucking cock sucking faggots
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:25:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:29:47 PM EDT
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That is the obvious answer.





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then why don't we just delete their AOL account?  



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i have not been able to determine their transit connection in terms of bandwidth.  i wouldn't even call it a peering connection, as their country-wide network is (topologically) far smaller than what we have in our R&D labs on one floor of one building.   but i am guessing that they are getting an E1 (2.048Mb/s) or E3 (34Mb/s) or so from China Unicom.  their border router is definitely a cisco box; that was determined by the author (a NANOG guy) of the link i posted above.  

ps

i don't see how they "stole" 100TB of Sony data over an E1 or E3 link.    

it would take a really, really, really long time...



ar-jedi





  The part in bold, I've heard others question this as well. Some are doubting NK's ability to download that much info so quickly. I'm not a doubting Thomas or conspiracy theorist, and NK definitely had the motive to carry this out (Cui bono), but can some knowledgeable geek explain how they carried it out in a way that luddite like me can understand?



They did it from outside the country?






That is the obvious answer.





Then what leads back to NK other than coding? Can't that be duplicated?

 
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:36:10 PM EDT
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Don't fuck with the USA, we got some bad ass hackers here.

Fuck North Korea. Fucking cock sucking faggots
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Those hackers need to be put to work securing the likes of Sony from external threats.

Up until management decides to trade security for convenience.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:43:57 PM EDT
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Someone slapped the entire country with a fish.
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:44:30 PM EDT
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Every NORK .Gov Thug has now just found out what happens when you start shit over the WEBZ. What happens is you lose the ability to check on the status of your Caymen Accounts, and coordinate activity with your counterfeiting and drug dealing crews.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:47:28 PM EDT
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Shoot, I did that in 7th grade summer on a  coworker, was pretty awesome to see a grown man swearing at his "slow" computer.


"10 ping IP.ip.ip.ip  255
20 goto 10"

it has been a while but im sure you could add some code to get several other IP addresses in there, and ask for larger than normal return packets.


Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:48:59 PM EDT
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Someone slapped the entire country with a fish.


http://i.imgur.com/h8fApDf.gif




Where is this from? What show is this and WTF is the back story!?!? that is an AWESOME gif.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:18:18 PM EDT
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It would have been way more efficient and effective to have turned the North Korean "data centers", or anything passing as such, into vapor with missile strikes.  That's the kind of talk the North Koreans understand.
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it is simply not worth the trouble.  they are a piss-ant little operation.

$4,799B - North Korean GDP 2014
$7,770B - Sony Gross Sales/Revenue 2014
$2,280B - Sony Gross Income 2014

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Sony is a Japanese company.
Sony Pictures, where the hack was perpetrated, is a business unit of Sony.
why the fuck should the USA get involved when the issue is related to criminal acts on a foreign company?


summary:
you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.

ar-jedi
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:24:28 PM EDT
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No more porn surfing for mr Un.
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I'm not sure you understand how meth-addicted sex slaves work.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:25:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:26:13 PM EDT
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Karma
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:28:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:31:18 PM EDT
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you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.

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Ooooh, I don't know about that.

Down the road, it may save you some trouble if any one of your enemies knows you'll really fuck them up if you want to.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:33:11 PM EDT
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it is simply not worth the trouble.  they are a piss-ant little operation.



$4,799B - North Korean GDP 2014

$7,770B - Sony Gross Sales/Revenue 2014

$2,280B - Sony Gross Income 2014



2nd:

Sony is a Japanese company.

Sony Pictures, where the hack was perpetrated, is a business unit of Sony.

why the fuck should the USA get involved when the issue is related to criminal acts on a foreign company?





summary:

you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.



ar-jedi
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It would have been way more efficient and effective to have turned the North Korean "data centers", or anything passing as such, into vapor with missile strikes.  That's the kind of talk the North Koreans understand.




1st:

it is simply not worth the trouble.  they are a piss-ant little operation.



$4,799B - North Korean GDP 2014

$7,770B - Sony Gross Sales/Revenue 2014

$2,280B - Sony Gross Income 2014



2nd:

Sony is a Japanese company.

Sony Pictures, where the hack was perpetrated, is a business unit of Sony.

why the fuck should the USA get involved when the issue is related to criminal acts on a foreign company?





summary:

you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.



ar-jedi




 
The only thing Sony has to do with Sony pictures is they send a portion of the money back to the parent company. All decisions and almost all of the money that Sony pictures generates comes from here.




This impacted more than just Sony Pictures. American theaters lost revenue. It's a freedom of speech issue that also deals with American money and interests.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:36:12 PM EDT
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Where is this from? What show is this and WTF is the back story!?!? that is an AWESOME gif.
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Someone slapped the entire country with a fish.


http://i.imgur.com/h8fApDf.gif




Where is this from? What show is this and WTF is the back story!?!? that is an AWESOME gif.


That's from Jackass 3D.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:37:30 PM EDT
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4 chan?
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:39:30 PM EDT
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I picture North Koreas glorious leader repeating that great line from the chinese guy from Deadwood....

Cocksukkas!!!!!!!
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lol
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:43:38 PM EDT
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The 30 or so Norks that have internet access must be pissed!
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Pretty much.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:48:12 PM EDT
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No more porn surfing for mr Un.

They got the guys who built the Obama care site together and said "go do what you do best"!
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:49:22 PM EDT
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1st:
it is simply not worth the trouble.  they are a piss-ant little operation.

$4,799B - North Korean GDP 2014
$7,770B - Sony Gross Sales/Revenue 2014
$2,280B - Sony Gross Income 2014

2nd:
Sony is a Japanese company.
Sony Pictures, where the hack was perpetrated, is a business unit of Sony.
why the fuck should the USA get involved when the issue is related to criminal acts on a foreign company?


summary:
you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.


ar-jedi
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It would have been way more efficient and effective to have turned the North Korean "data centers", or anything passing as such, into vapor with missile strikes.  That's the kind of talk the North Koreans understand.


1st:
it is simply not worth the trouble.  they are a piss-ant little operation.

$4,799B - North Korean GDP 2014
$7,770B - Sony Gross Sales/Revenue 2014
$2,280B - Sony Gross Income 2014

2nd:
Sony is a Japanese company.
Sony Pictures, where the hack was perpetrated, is a business unit of Sony.
why the fuck should the USA get involved when the issue is related to criminal acts on a foreign company?


summary:
you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.


ar-jedi



You don't?
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:49:57 PM EDT
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So that is what becauz3y looks like
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:54:17 PM EDT
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ROFL beat me to it!
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:56:14 PM EDT
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They forgot to feed the guy running on the treadmill

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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:57:30 PM EDT
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ha-ha
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 8:57:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:02:01 PM EDT
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How is Kim gonna get his PornHub fix?



This will end very badly.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:03:01 PM EDT
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I picture North Koreas glorious leader repeating that great line from the chinese guy from Deadwood....

Cocksukkas!!!!!!!
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:04:42 PM EDT
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Apparently internet IS serious business.











Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:05:55 PM EDT
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I raffed... they rost.

Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:09:01 PM EDT
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Hahaha, 4'04 is not just your average Nork height!
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Sir, I applaud your wit.

I nominate this post as an honorary FPNI.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:10:53 PM EDT
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The only thing Sony has to do with Sony pictures is they send a portion of the money back to the parent company. All decisions and almost all of the money that Sony pictures generates comes from here.
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The only thing Sony has to do with Sony pictures is they send a portion of the money back to the parent company. All decisions and almost all of the money that Sony pictures generates comes from here.

we have got to get you into the next Texas-built Toyota Tundra vs Dearborn-built Ford F150 thread!!!

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This impacted more than just Sony Pictures. American theaters lost revenue. It's a freedom of speech issue that also deals with American money and interests.

wait, so a Japanese company that can't secure their IT infrastructure gets owned (badly), and you think the USA military complex should boot up and start a war because of it?  really?  when and where does that slippery slope end?  American money should be spent and American lives should be put into harms way because foreign-owned Sony can't adequately protect their corporate info?  

how about we let Darwin take over.  Sony didn't do a good job of protecting their assets, and maybe they wither and die.  another company comes along and does a better job at making movies and protecting their IP, and succeeds.  this is in contrast to the nanny state proposed where the USA runs around spending billions on a fucking preventable data leak.  

ps
maybe the USA should bomb anonymous since we all saw Jennifer Lawrence's boobies?  
and what was the effect on the USA's GDP of that little leak?  probably larger than Sony's...  

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 12/22/2014 9:12:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:13:51 AM EDT
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That's what happens when your internet backbone consists of thicknet with some hubs at major junctions and you try and do some gangster shit .



Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:16:08 AM EDT
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one internet you have more than the norks for today
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:16:10 AM EDT
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Their entire /28 network?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ETA: holy shit they really only have 4 class C's?  
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:26:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:41:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:46:42 AM EDT
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Their entire /28 network?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Redundancy is important, dude!
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 1:01:12 AM EDT
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I can believe we are acting like this is some sort of win.  
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You don't?
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It would have been way more efficient and effective to have turned the North Korean "data centers", or anything passing as such, into vapor with missile strikes.  That's the kind of talk the North Koreans understand.


1st:
it is simply not worth the trouble.  they are a piss-ant little operation.

$4,799B - North Korean GDP 2014
$7,770B - Sony Gross Sales/Revenue 2014
$2,280B - Sony Gross Income 2014

2nd:
Sony is a Japanese company.
Sony Pictures, where the hack was perpetrated, is a business unit of Sony.
why the fuck should the USA get involved when the issue is related to criminal acts on a foreign company?


summary:
you don't drop JDAMs on a 87 pound kid who *thinks* he is the schoolyard bully.


ar-jedi



You don't?


This should have happened 5 seconds after the Sony hack. Anyhow, the wheels of justice turn slowly sometimes. Hopefully, China is lined up in the crosshairs of fuck your internet by now.
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 1:22:10 AM EDT
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John Schindler @20committee  ·  6h 6 hours ago
No actual cyberattack on DPRK today. Kim had like 12 windows open on IE2 & his Win95 crashed, taking both the country's servers with it.
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 1:26:32 AM EDT
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John Schindler @20committee  ·  10h 10 hours ago
Taking down the North Korean Internet is the cyber equivalent of taking down Luxembourg's air defense network.
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 1:29:10 AM EDT
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John Schindler @20committee  ·  10h 10 hours ago
Taking down the North Korean Internet is the cyber equivalent of taking down Luxembourg's air defense network.
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Now Luxembourg is pissed.
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