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Posted: 12/21/2014 2:53:25 PM EDT
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scientists seem pretty sure this will happen. what unforeseen consequences might there be? for example, would someone be sentenced to prison for life for a murder? 200 years? how long? would pensions be a thing of the past? what would we do about a dramatic population spike from no more deaths? would our overlords even allow such a thing to anyone but the elite? (like the obama's) apparently this is real and will happen. just a matter of time |
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google/google-x-labs/21813/googles-ray-kurzweil-humans-will-be-immortal-2030s scientists seem pretty sure this will happen. what unforeseen consequences might there be? for example, would someone be sentenced to prison for life for a murder? 200 years? how long? would pensions be a thing of the past? what would we do about a dramatic population spike from no more deaths? would our overlords even allow such a thing to anyone but the elite? (like the obama's) apparently this is real and will happen. just a matter of time View Quote You should read his books. SOME humans will have access to bio tech like that when developed. Most of us will not for a very very long time. Don't whistle past the graveyard just yet |
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Only a crazy person would want to live in these bodies forever.
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I just finished some college on my GI Bill. I have seen what the future is. I don't want to live forever anymore.
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Politicians will keep this for themselves and their families. We can't be hip deep in FSA, no matter how they vote.
Does killing someone when they are immortal (Forget the linguistic anomalies), carry a greater weight, than when their life span was finite? |
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i dont ever see the body lasting forever, but i do believe that one day we will be able to transfer our mind onto a computer
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Interesting concept.
Why would the physical world be necessary for those who uploaded their consciousness to a virtual world, past keeping the hardware running? |
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Would you agree to the immortality treatment, if you were required to sign a contract to to be sterilized. A no progeny clause as it were?
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Immortality? Bah!
When do we get flying cars and practical jetpacks? |
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Would you agree to the immortality treatment, if you were required to sign a contract to to be sterilized. A no progeny clause as it were? View Quote Probably, if it was true immortality, because I'd just have it fixed at some point down the line. If your timeline is truly infinite then there are no real constraints on what you can do. |
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I'll be 78 in 30 years.
This immortal technology needs to include reverse aging. |
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i dont ever see the body lasting forever, but i do believe that one day we will be able to transfer our mind onto a computer View Quote If we can keep DNA from degrading, then the body will keep repairing itself. We age because our DNA degrades as it's replicated, resulting in lost information and mutation. Eventually, we lose enough information to prevent our body from being able to effectively repair itself (or conversely, a mutation occurs that causes the cells to behave maliciously). It will still be possible to die from injury or infection, but the body will keep repairing itself within it's abilities. Think of it like a car. No part on a car will last forever (though some may last a very long time) but if you are continually repairing and replacing parts, the car itself can keep on driving (even if all of the individual parts have been replaced over the years). |
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Weren't we supposed to have space ships by now? Or an ice age/un inhabitable planet due to global warming? Science is not so good with predictions all the time.
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"OK, I'll live forever. But Doc, will my dick still get hard?"
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If we can keep DNA from degrading, then the body will keep repairing itself. We age because our DNA degrades as it's replicated, resulting in lost information and mutation. Eventually, we lose enough information to prevent our body from being able to effectively repair itself (or conversely, a mutation occurs that causes the cells to behave maliciously). It will still be possible to die from injury or infection, but the body will keep repairing itself within it's abilities. Think of it like a car. No part on a car will last forever (though some may last a very long time) but if you are continually repairing and replacing parts, the car itself can keep on driving (even if all of the individual parts have been replaced over the years). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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i dont ever see the body lasting forever, but i do believe that one day we will be able to transfer our mind onto a computer If we can keep DNA from degrading, then the body will keep repairing itself. We age because our DNA degrades as it's replicated, resulting in lost information and mutation. Eventually, we lose enough information to prevent our body from being able to effectively repair itself (or conversely, a mutation occurs that causes the cells to behave maliciously). It will still be possible to die from injury or infection, but the body will keep repairing itself within it's abilities. Think of it like a car. No part on a car will last forever (though some may last a very long time) but if you are continually repairing and replacing parts, the car itself can keep on driving (even if all of the individual parts have been replaced over the years). Telomeres, how do they work? |
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A couple of things come to mind....
1) It will initially or permanently create a caste system in society. Those that can afford immortality and those that cant. After this starts it will be hard to reverse. 2) You think your retirement check is small now? Retirement may be a thing of the past. 3) How will there be resources for the overpopulated earth? 4)Does this put the nails in the coffin of Christianity? Seems like there wouldn't really be a need to "go to heaven" if you are immortal 5)Does this mean we will still need Obamacare? |
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I'll be 78 in 30 years. This immortal technology needs to include reverse aging. View Quote Nanomachines have the best hope of doing this, but you'll probably need a DNA sample from the age at which you would like to return to (theoretically the nanomachines would enter your cells and change the DNA to a preset sequence, as your DNA returns to it's younger state, the cells will begin behaving just as they did at that age). Might wanna put some blood in storage so you've got a sample from while you're still capable. |
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I want my phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range first, keep those pretentious immortal assholes in check
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A couple of things come to mind.... 1) It will initially or permanently create a caste system in society. Those that can afford immortality and those that cant. After this starts it will be hard to reverse. 2) You think your retirement check is small now? Retirement may be a thing of the past. 3) How will there be resources for the overpopulated earth? 4)Does this put the nails in the coffin of Christianity? Seems like there wouldn't really be a need to "go to heaven" if you are immortal 5)Does this mean we will still need Obamacare? View Quote it is a pipe dream that will not happen. This was tried years ago pre flood and look what happened, the same will happen again and the world will be purged by fire. |
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it is a pipe dream that will not happen. This was tried years ago pre flood and look what happened, the same will happen again and the world will be purged by fire. View Quote Sweet, fan fiction time. Oh, I've got one. How about only the elite get to keep immortal bodies, while everyone else has their mind uploaded to a computer simulation. People are reconstituted into physical bodies based on the needs or desires of the elite. I like my fiction better than yours |
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Sweet, fan fiction time. Oh, I've got one. How about only the elite get to keep immortal bodies, while everyone else has their mind uploaded to a computer simulation. People are reconstituted into physical bodies based on the needs or desires of the elite. I like my fiction better than yours View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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it is a pipe dream that will not happen. This was tried years ago pre flood and look what happened, the same will happen again and the world will be purged by fire. Sweet, fan fiction time. Oh, I've got one. How about only the elite get to keep immortal bodies, while everyone else has their mind uploaded to a computer simulation. People are reconstituted into physical bodies based on the needs or desires of the elite. I like my fiction better than yours Yeah, I am shutting up now, it's going to go nowhere. |
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In 1930 they said we'd all be flying around in our own personal spaceships like the Jetsons by 1980, too.
I also seem to recall something about a moonbase by 1985, eradication of world hunger by 1990, and teleportation of people anywhere on the planet by 2000. But immortality sounds much more feasible. Where do I sign up? |
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In 1930 they said we'd all be flying around in our own personal spaceships like the Jetsons by 1980, too. I also seem to recall something about a moonbase by 1985, eradication of world hunger by 1990, and teleportation of people anywhere on the planet by 2000. But immortality sounds much more feasible. Where do I sign up? View Quote To be fair, we can do the first two we just chose not to. The third can only be done on the particle scale right now. |
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Weren't we supposed to have space ships by now? Or an ice age/un inhabitable planet due to global warming? Science is not so good with predictions all the time. View Quote Space ships, home robot servants, home nuclear power plants, flying cars, electric cars, an ice age from global cooling, no more rain forests, be turned into crispy critters from no ozone, and finally the end of the world due to global warming. This leaves out the glowing cockroaches from nuclear Armageddon, and us all dying from pollution. At this rate the crazy guy with pet pigeons on the street corner yelling at the sky has a better track record than popular science. ETA: How could I leave out cold fusion, we have been 10 years from it for the last 60 years. Using that math infinite life is still more than 180 years away. |
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In 1930 they said we'd all be flying around in our own personal spaceships like the Jetsons by 1980, too. I also seem to recall something about a moonbase by 1985, eradication of world hunger by 1990, and teleportation of people anywhere on the planet by 2000. But immortality sounds much more feasible. Where do I sign up? View Quote All of these things were in our grasp, then, the Great Society came around and fucked it all up. FSA is gonna FSA. |
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so my play would be to figure out how to live to age 85. not sure it's worth it.
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All of these things were in our grasp, then, the Great Society came around and fucked it all up. FSA is gonna FSA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In 1930 they said we'd all be flying around in our own personal spaceships like the Jetsons by 1980, too. I also seem to recall something about a moonbase by 1985, eradication of world hunger by 1990, and teleportation of people anywhere on the planet by 2000. But immortality sounds much more feasible. Where do I sign up? All of these things were in our grasp, then, the Great Society came around and fucked it all up. FSA is gonna FSA. They're sure immortality is within our grasp, too. How much you wanna bet it'll actually happen? |
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it is a pipe dream that will not happen. This was tried years ago pre flood and look what happened, the same will happen again and the world will be purged by fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A couple of things come to mind.... 1) It will initially or permanently create a caste system in society. Those that can afford immortality and those that cant. After this starts it will be hard to reverse. 2) You think your retirement check is small now? Retirement may be a thing of the past. 3) How will there be resources for the overpopulated earth? 4)Does this put the nails in the coffin of Christianity? Seems like there wouldn't really be a need to "go to heaven" if you are immortal 5)Does this mean we will still need Obamacare? it is a pipe dream that will not happen. This was tried years ago pre flood and look what happened, the same will happen again and the world will be purged by fire. what went wrong? |
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Immortality? How will society change?
For one I won't have people telling me I'm going to hell anymore... |
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Immortality? No. Longer life span? Yes.
I think Heinlein's concept of periodic rejuvination with an opt out whenever you want would be cool. I think after a few centuries, things would tend get boring and repetitive. |
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