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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:30:09 PM EDT
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I have said it before and I'll say it again. The marriage idea of the past is dead and for many reasons. . One of the reasons is what I call the princess syndrome. She is Daddy's little girl and daddy is a suburban professional making a great salary. She grows up in a Mcmansion and gets a new car the day she turns 16. She has a thousand dollar prom dress etc... She goes off to college, stays in a really nice apartment and all her wants and needs are taken care of without even having to ask. She meets a nice guy. He is just starting his career and he doesn't make the big dough, yet. Princess has a big wedding that daddy pays for and gets a ton of awesome wedding gifts. A year later she is expected to be a grown up. Daddy doesn't pay for all her little things she just has to have and has been conditioned all her life to get, without even asking. Her husband doesn't understand why she wants a tropical vacation when they are saving for a house. He doesn't understand why she doesn't understand. He is frustrated that she has ever increasing annoyance with him and sometimes outright hostility. After much explaining and working more and more to try and satisfy her he finally strikes back. He calls her a name or tells her she is spoiled. They have a big fight and things are never the same again. Finally, deciding that he is a loser she divorces him. If somewhere during the marriage they made a baby or two hubby gets fucked right in the ass with no lube. He is now paying at least 25% of his gross pay in child support, maybe alimony because princess deserves a certain lifestyle. Daddy sets up princess with a nice place to stay. Hubby lives in a shitty apartment. His kids don't like him because mommy and all her cookie cutter friends talk bad about him in front of the kids. Tell me why any man in his right mind would want to risk his future for that? No it didn't happen to me. I have seen it happen too many times to count. I will agree that this is a problem some women exhibit, and is certainly a contributing factor to some of the issues we are seeing. Would you care to share a similarly detrimental problem that you see men exhibiting? |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:32:10 PM EDT
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I'm a dumb guy, but my dick is pretty smart for a phallus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So it just comes down to luck? Not rejecting the baddies and clinging to a goody? luck for me. I was totally thinking with my dick. Congratulations on your excellent luck, then!  I'm a dumb guy, but my dick is pretty smart for a phallus. I may use many words to describe you, but dumb ain't one of em. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:35:40 PM EDT
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Okay, so where does a- 5 on a good day, financially stable, educated, slightly chubby single mom that doesn't actually expect to get married again- go on that list? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone give me cliff notes. She lost me after multiple air quotes. Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user hereosexual female = "I deserve a man who will value me as the princess that I am, and when I don't feel as if I'm valued as a princess, I will eject from the relationship and take half his paycheck with me" Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user heterosexual male = "Fuck, she won't give me the time of day" Financially viable, 8 attractiveness, non-substance-abusing heterosexual male = "Fuck that noise, besides... she needs to work out" That's what I got, anyone else? Let's work as a team and see if we can piece this together. C'mon guys, we can do this if we try. Okay, so where does a- 5 on a good day, financially stable, educated, slightly chubby single mom that doesn't actually expect to get married again- go on that list? Financially stable? Duh she gets hooked up with the bad boy not financially stable, barely keeps himself out of court 7 attractiveness heterosexual male. He sponges off of her. Or she gets bitter and makes friends with another attractiveness 5 on a good day, financially stable, educated slightly chubby female with a super short haircut. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:41:56 PM EDT
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We have our pick of the few women who have not been ruined by the "Golden Vagina" mindset that seems to be the norm today. There is, no shit, a gal up in the Quincy, IL area who has "PMOG" as her license plate. Yes, pussy made of gold. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:42:33 PM EDT
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You've done a superb job of making yourself look like an ass. Perhaps you should watch the video. OkCupid has done a lot of statistics regarding online dating that is pretty...interesting. http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Needs to spend more time cleaning her kitchen and less time bitchin'. You've done a superb job of making yourself look like an ass. Perhaps you should watch the video. Quoted:
I had not heard the statistic she quoted from OKCupid. Essentially, women on the dating site rated 80% of the men below their standards. One would think it would be more of a bell curve. OkCupid has done a lot of statistics regarding online dating that is pretty...interesting. http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ This is the one that struck me as the most strange: ...the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:46:36 PM EDT
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I will agree that this is a problem some women exhibit, and is certainly a contributing factor to some of the issues we are seeing. Would you care to share a similarly detrimental problem that you see men exhibiting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have said it before and I'll say it again. The marriage idea of the past is dead and for many reasons. . One of the reasons is what I call the princess syndrome. She is Daddy's little girl and daddy is a suburban professional making a great salary. She grows up in a Mcmansion and gets a new car the day she turns 16. She has a thousand dollar prom dress etc... She goes off to college, stays in a really nice apartment and all her wants and needs are taken care of without even having to ask. She meets a nice guy. He is just starting his career and he doesn't make the big dough, yet. Princess has a big wedding that daddy pays for and gets a ton of awesome wedding gifts. A year later she is expected to be a grown up. Daddy doesn't pay for all her little things she just has to have and has been conditioned all her life to get, without even asking. Her husband doesn't understand why she wants a tropical vacation when they are saving for a house. He doesn't understand why she doesn't understand. He is frustrated that she has ever increasing annoyance with him and sometimes outright hostility. After much explaining and working more and more to try and satisfy her he finally strikes back. He calls her a name or tells her she is spoiled. They have a big fight and things are never the same again. Finally, deciding that he is a loser she divorces him. If somewhere during the marriage they made a baby or two hubby gets fucked right in the ass with no lube. He is now paying at least 25% of his gross pay in child support, maybe alimony because princess deserves a certain lifestyle. Daddy sets up princess with a nice place to stay. Hubby lives in a shitty apartment. His kids don't like him because mommy and all her cookie cutter friends talk bad about him in front of the kids. Tell me why any man in his right mind would want to risk his future for that? No it didn't happen to me. I have seen it happen too many times to count. I will agree that this is a problem some women exhibit, and is certainly a contributing factor to some of the issues we are seeing. Would you care to share a similarly detrimental problem that you see men exhibiting? Absolutely. As with most things concerning men it is simple. I see a lot of men who take their family for granted. Ignore the kids, go out drinking 4 nights a week. Cheat on their spouse and basically think they can do what they want as long as they bring home a check. Then they act all shocked when Suzy Homemaker tells him to gtfo. Jim |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:53:17 PM EDT
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Thanks to her, I learned a new word: hypergamous .
Which is from hypergamy which means that Hindu women marry into someone who is at least the same caste as them. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:55:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI guess this is our future greatest generation. What could go wrong. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:02:54 PM EDT
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I kind of want to have sex with her.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:05:30 PM EDT
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I kind of want to have sex with her. She needs to grow her hair out for that. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Can someone give me cliff notes. She lost me after multiple air quotes. Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user hereosexual female = "I deserve a man who will value me as the princess that I am, and when I don't feel as if I'm valued as a princess, I will eject from the relationship and take half his paycheck with me" Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user heterosexual male = "Fuck, she won't give me the time of day" Financially viable, 8 attractiveness, non-substance-abusing heterosexual male = "Fuck that noise, besides... she needs to work out" That's what I got, anyone else? Let's work as a team and see if we can piece this together. C'mon guys, we can do this if we try. Eventually they buy cats or embrace reality Or rescue dogs... 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:15:39 PM EDT
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Well said. Marriage itself is an insufficient end-goal. There's nothing good about a bad marriage. We'll only value good marriage. Without a safe 'out' from a bad marriage, both socially as well as financially, the prospect is unappealing for both genders. There's an imbalance because while the 'out' is socially safe for both genders, it's generally not as safe for men as for women (though personally, my marriage was the opposite of the norm). The answer is to make it equal and safer financially, not to make it unsafer socially for both genders. Or we can decide that marriage itself is obsolete (like every single couple I know in France), and embrace the unknown of a new society for better or for worse. This is all occurring today, as we destroy family formation. Marriage establishes many little firewalls for society and the team within it. Bust that up, and let the state be daddy and mommy. This is how it changes. And guess what, your new mommy and daddy isn't concern with your uniqueness as a special snowflake. They want conformity. Welcome to the new way. I want a stable, comfortable and free society, without socialist safety nets, yet I want the freedom to choose not to marry and the freedom to divorce. Surely, there must be a way for freedom from the state and freedom from rigid social conformity? Strong social conformity is a good thing. I'm ok when it's voluntary, or specific to outward lives. I just have a hard time with having my love life dictated. I want to be able to control every aspect of my family and home life without state or social interference. I don't expect any help to live my home life my way, I just don't want any hindrance. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:17:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From Kevin Sorbo's facebook page. Yes, the Hercules guy. Conservative Christian 2A constitutionalist guy. Joke of the day: A store that sells new husbands has opened, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates: You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building! So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads: Floor 1 - These Men Have Jobs She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads: Floor 2 - These Men Have Jobs and Love Kids. 'That's nice,' she thinks, 'but I want more.' So she continues upward. The third-floor sign reads: Floor 3 - These Men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking. 'Wow,' she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going. She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads: Floor 4 - These Men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework. 'Oh, mercy me!' she exclaims, 'I can hardly stand it!' Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads: Floor 5 - These Men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak. She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads: Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store. PLEASE NOTE: To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New Wives store just across the street. The first floor has wives that love sex. The second floor has wives that love sex, have money and like beer The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:19:30 PM EDT
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For the younger people that I know, I give this advice: Date. A lot. That... and don't run around prying the pants off the opposite sex for the fun of it. Date. My parents taught me that dating was useful in finding out who I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. I had fun determining what type of woman I would be best suited to... and I practiced a little bit on how I could be a better candidate for the kind of person I was looking for. And it was great advice, it worked for me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So it just comes down to luck? Not rejecting the baddies and clinging to a goody? For the younger people that I know, I give this advice: Date. A lot. That... and don't run around prying the pants off the opposite sex for the fun of it. Date. My parents taught me that dating was useful in finding out who I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. I had fun determining what type of woman I would be best suited to... and I practiced a little bit on how I could be a better candidate for the kind of person I was looking for. And it was great advice, it worked for me This makes total sense. Low stakes dating, the old fashioned way, leading to a permanent high stakes choice, also the old fashioned way. This is what I'd do now, older and wiser (I hope) if I was looking. Did you get 'referrals' from people you knew? Like from married or older friends or from girls you'd dated that didn't work out? |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:20:13 PM EDT
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I didn't watch it, she is really annoying
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:26:00 PM EDT
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I didn't watch it, she is really annoying Actually, the Avila's may want to bring her on as the official ArfCom councilor for the ArfCom Curse. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:26:31 PM EDT
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Can someone give me cliff notes. She lost me after multiple air quotes. Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user hereosexual female = "I deserve a man who will value me as the princess that I am, and when I don't feel as if I'm valued as a princess, I will eject from the relationship and take half his paycheck with me" Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user heterosexual male = "Fuck, she won't give me the time of day" Financially viable, 8 attractiveness, non-substance-abusing heterosexual male = "Fuck that noise, besides... she needs to work out" That's what I got, anyone else? Let's work as a team and see if we can piece this together. C'mon guys, we can do this if we try. Eventually they buy cats or embrace reality Or rescue dogs...
I stopped bringing home strays and started bringing home strays.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1698990_Dog_jealousy_and_dog_on_dog_agression_.html
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:27:44 PM EDT
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That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:28:13 PM EDT
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I didn't watch it, she is really annoying Actually, the Avila's may want to bring her on as the official ArfCom councilor for the ArfCom Curse. We've got a dozen better people already here. I'd threaten to tear her hair out, if she had any. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:29:25 PM EDT
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I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. My list is completely different from y'alls. Totally different. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:35:11 PM EDT
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I didn't watch it, she is really annoying Actually, the Avila's may want to bring her on as the official ArfCom councilor for the ArfCom Curse. We've got a dozen better people already here. I'd threaten to tear her hair out, if she had any. She does kind of have an air of snoot-ery or snobery about her, especially her choice of words. It's like flaunting "I'm so much smarter than you....ha...ha...ha...ha!" |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:36:39 PM EDT
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My list is completely different from y'alls. Totally different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. My list is completely different from y'alls. Totally different. Yes, continue... |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:37:07 PM EDT
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I didn't watch it, she is really annoying Actually, the Avila's may want to bring her on as the official ArfCom councilor for the ArfCom Curse. We've got a dozen better people already here. I'd threaten to tear her hair out, if she had any. Yes ma'am... 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:58:21 PM EDT
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I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. No Indiana girls? Strange aversion......
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:58:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:01:49 PM EDT
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. My list is completely different from y'alls. Totally different. Yes, continue... They all have to do with internal stuff and personal relations stuff, and very little to do with circumstances. For instance, a man could be homeless and it would be a red flag, but 'not homeless' isn't on my list. John Rambo was homeless, and I'd give him a shot. But "brilliant" is on my list, as is "natural caretaker", "diplomatic", "highly analytical", "open minded", "familiarity with violence, or violence related training", "worldly", "very adaptable", "profoundly curious", "has a sense of fair play", "deeply interested in psychology", "often chosen as leader by peers", "gifted androgog", and "sexually dominant". The more common demands I have are law abiding, moral, hard working, extremely loyal, compassionate and fit. (I have a laundry list of 'nice to haves', 'red flags' and 'big plusses' and I know which environments breed my men and how to hunt them, but they're negotiable. ) |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:02:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:04:40 PM EDT
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Here you go ladies.
Leave your umbrellas at home. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:14:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:14:44 PM EDT
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They all have to do with internal stuff and personal relations stuff, and very little to do with circumstances. For instance, a man could be homeless and it would be a red flag, but 'not homeless' isn't on my list. John Rambo was homeless, and I'd give him a shot. But "brilliant" is on my list, as is "natural caretaker", "diplomatic", "highly analytical", "open minded", "familiarity with violence, or violence related training", "worldly", "very adaptable", "profoundly curious", "has a sense of fair play", "deeply interested in psychology", "often chosen as leader by peers", "gifted androgog", and "sexually dominant". The more common demands I have are law abiding, moral, hard working, extremely loyal, compassionate and fit. (I have a laundry list of 'nice to haves', 'red flags' and 'big plusses' and I know which environments breed my men and how to hunt them, but they're negotiable. ) interesting |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:16:53 PM EDT
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. No Indiana girls? Strange aversion...... In the St. Louis metro area, "hoosier" doesn't refer to people from Indiana. For example: 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:18:04 PM EDT
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. That's me!
I have a long list of things I'm looking for in my spouse and I don't feel like "settling" for the next best thing. Someday I'll find the woman I want and I'll be able to look down the list and see: Want Children? Check Educated? Check Have career and/or can maintain household? Check Physically active? Check Like the outdoors? Check Prefer rural living? Check Similar religious views? Check Similar politics? Check Compatible life goals? Check I have a much different list which goes like this: Doesn't smoke? Doesn't do drugs? Isn't an alcoholic? Doesn't have kids? Has visible collar bones? Doesn't come across as white trash/hoosier? Has a job? Has a car? Has her own place? But I am 42, never been married, don't have kids, and it seems like the pickin's keep getting slim as time goes by. The last girlfriend I had, what we would call a "steady" broke up in January 2011. No Indiana girls? Strange aversion...... In the St. Louis metro area, "hoosier" doesn't refer to people from Indiana. For example: http://drivenautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/beater2.jpg Bob: Did you see that car? Tom: yeah, dayyummnnn! That is hoosie Which would be pronounced like "who" plus "shg". Almost like "huge". That machine oozes class. You can't buy that level of class with money. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:19:55 PM EDT
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I hate being late to these threads but I am in before the three arfcom females blather on for 35 pages
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:21:11 PM EDT
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You'd have to repo it!
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:22:50 PM EDT
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They could solve that by getting rid of,gd so everyone would log out and actually talk to their spouse Hey mine's busy
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I didn't watch it, she is really annoying Actually, the Avila's may want to bring her on as the official ArfCom councilor for the ArfCom Curse. Hey mine's busy
I had to do a review thing at work. I almost left a comment on the form along the lines of "Did co-workers actually talk to each other before smart phones?". But I left it blank instead. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:25:10 PM EDT
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In the St. Louis metro area, "hoosier" doesn't refer to people from Indiana. For example: http://drivenautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/beater2.jpg Bob: Did you see that car? Tom: yeah, dayyummnnn! That is hoosie Which would be pronounced like "who" plus "shg". Almost like "huge". 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:34:12 PM EDT
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Can someone give me cliff notes. She lost me after multiple air quotes. Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user hereosexual female = "I deserve a man who will value me as the princess that I am, and when I don't feel as if I'm valued as a princess, I will eject from the relationship and take half his paycheck with me" Financially viable, 4 attractiveness, slightly overweight, non-drug-user heterosexual male = "Fuck, she won't give me the time of day" Financially viable, 8 attractiveness, non-substance-abusing heterosexual male = "Fuck that noise, besides... she needs to work out" That's what I got, anyone else? Let's work as a team and see if we can piece this together. C'mon guys, we can do this if we try. Okay, so where does a- 5 on a good day, financially stable, educated, slightly chubby single mom that doesn't actually expect to get married again- go on that list? She's not on the list, she's left the labor force.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:34:41 PM EDT
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I thought the part about men's workstation was pretty interesting.
I work in the (computer) networking field. It tends to be fairly high stress and is very much male dominated. In my experience the really successful groups have very tight knit teams that talk a LOT of shit to each other. When I left my last job I recommended a female I had previously worked with as my replacement. There was a lot of concern about hiring her. Lets say you walked in 5 minutes late Monday. It wouldn't be surprising for one of the other guys to say "Why are you late, were you blowing your boyfriend?" If you responded with "No, you wife was blowing me." You would get laughs and a fist bump from the guy that called you out. So my female friend had worked a few weeks and everyone tipped toed around here. One morning one of the guys said something to the effect of "Let me know if you want to know how this works, it is a little complicated" in a condescending tone. She replied with "I talked to your wife, I am not sure you are the person to teach me how things work." After a tense moment everyone laughed and she became just another team member. She has gone on to be very successful. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:35:59 PM EDT
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I thought the part about men's workstation was pretty interesting. I work in the (computer) networking field. It tends to be fairly high stress and is very much male dominated. In my experience the really successful groups have very tight knit teams that talk a LOT of shit to each other. When I left my last job I recommended a female I had previously worked with as my replacement. There was a lot of concern about hiring her. Lets say you walked in 5 minutes late Monday. It wouldn't be surprising for one of the other guys to say "Why are you late, were you blowing your boyfriend?" If you responded with "No, you wife was blowing me." You would get laughs and a fist bump from the guy that called you out. So my female friend had worked a few weeks and everyone tipped toed around here. One morning one of the guys said something to the effect of "Let me know if you want to know how this works, it is a little complicated" in a condescending tone. She replied with "I talked to your wife, I am not sure you are the person to teach me how things work." After a tense moment everyone laughed and she became just another team member. She has gone on to be very successful. Pics? |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:56:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pics? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought the part about men's workstation was pretty interesting. I work in the (computer) networking field. It tends to be fairly high stress and is very much male dominated. In my experience the really successful groups have very tight knit teams that talk a LOT of shit to each other. When I left my last job I recommended a female I had previously worked with as my replacement. There was a lot of concern about hiring her. Lets say you walked in 5 minutes late Monday. It wouldn't be surprising for one of the other guys to say "Why are you late, were you blowing your boyfriend?" If you responded with "No, you wife was blowing me." You would get laughs and a fist bump from the guy that called you out. So my female friend had worked a few weeks and everyone tipped toed around here. One morning one of the guys said something to the effect of "Let me know if you want to know how this works, it is a little complicated" in a condescending tone. She replied with "I talked to your wife, I am not sure you are the person to teach me how things work." After a tense moment everyone laughed and she became just another team member. She has gone on to be very successful. Pics? She is a not too bad looking older blonde. I would be shocked if her and her husband are not members here. So no pics. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:42:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:47:25 PM EDT
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All of this talk about numbers and levels and qualifications makes my head spin. Don't people just meet, hit it off, fall in love and get married anymore? I picture people walking around a bar with a checklist and spreadsheets. This. Side-effect of the quantified and computerized modern world: Everyone has to pin a number and a mechanism to everything. The thing that people forget is that all numerical representations are lossy; they ditch data in favor of simplicity. And when 90% of your brain is not under your conscious control, trying to run your life through the 10% you control via lossy compression of your perceptions produces a simplistic, child-like view of the world--sans the charming innocence. Seriously, just fuck the numbers. The only number that should matter is how many times she makes you smile on a typical day. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:49:55 PM EDT
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im not watching 25 minutes of a woman with a haircut like a dude
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:54:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:58:37 PM EDT
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Labeling a situation "The FriendZone" doesn't help a person take accountability for his or her role in the situation. The term 'friendzoned' turns it into something where a friendzoner does something unfair to passive friendzonee. It's like "White Privilege" or "Male Privilege". You can make a case that it does happen, but it feeds a victim mindset that you're just better off without. And you'll never agree as to whether you were a victim or you just aren't wanted that way. So the terms are useless at best, and harmful at worst and should be stricken from our lexicon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They're all in the "Friend Zone" where they were put. Uxbee! 
When someone complains about being "friendzoned" I always wonder if: a). they narrowly escaped being used by a bad woman b). were willingly playing the lackey to a bad woman and just want to bitch c). if they're creeping on a woman who doesn't want them but just hasn't said "get away from me, creep!" yet. I think it's a totally BS term that doesn't help anyone make sense of unrequited love situations.  It's not BS. The FriendZone is real, and every guy has been in it at least once in his life. However, what most fail to realize is that the guy is there voluntarily. He put himself there. Any man who is honest with himself will understand that. Labeling a situation "The FriendZone" doesn't help a person take accountability for his or her role in the situation. The term 'friendzoned' turns it into something where a friendzoner does something unfair to passive friendzonee. It's like "White Privilege" or "Male Privilege". You can make a case that it does happen, but it feeds a victim mindset that you're just better off without. And you'll never agree as to whether you were a victim or you just aren't wanted that way. So the terms are useless at best, and harmful at worst and should be stricken from our lexicon. I don't disagree except that it should remain in the lexicon. "Friend zoned" means "I'm a victim of my own decisions, but it's not my fault." It's very helpful in identifying immaturity. Consider the difference between "She friend zoned me" versus "I let myself get stuck in the friend zone." |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 12:04:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/22/2014 12:24:08 AM EDT
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LOL. I think you are looking at it in a very biased light. My wife is a stay at home mom. She also has her masters degree and could go to work tomorrow if she wanted. She chooses to stay at home with my son (and hopefully another soon). She also has more free time than I do. We split cooking and cleaning (I am better at both ). She volunteers part time and very much has her own life. Come to think of it, she has a hell of a lot more free time than I do. Subservient? Not hardly.
I have a young man that works for me. He is around 25, still lives at home and frankly stinking rich. Every dime he makes goes into savings. He also happens to be a devout Christian and refuses to have sex outside of marriage. Your average female around here is about 3 kids deep. He would be out of his damn mind to marry any of them, much less have sex with them. As to him being a virgin, I think there is a lot of value in that, despite what GD will tell you. Because the fact is if you can put up with someone without having sex with them then maybe there is something to it. Men will do the dumbest shit JUST because they are getting laid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well worth the 24 minutes. When I was 27 I was finally ready to settle down. I was an E-6 in the USN with a good record and a promising career in front of me. By then I had been overseas for 5 years and had lived in Japan and Australia and knew that the Western Woman was not for me. The American culture has emasculated men and taught women that a man isn't need to the point where too many of the women I had dated were already Oprah's little minions. While living in Japan I toured Korea, Singapore, The Philippines, Thailand, China and Hong Kong where I found societies that still valued man's culture. Traditional male roles were honored and respected. Traditional women's roles were also honored and respected. Simple shit like men working and women staying home raising the children and taking care of the home were still practiced. Hell yeah I grabbed the best female from that culture I could find and married her. I treat her like a queen and she treats me like a king. When I returned home on leave and told my former girlfriends that I was going to marry a woman overseas they were very interested in why. I wasn't brave enough to tell them that the American female culture sucked ... even back then in the 1980's ... and it's gotten worse since then. Truly, can you imagine living your life like that? As someone's accessory, completely dependent on them? How is me living my life, my way, on my own income, with my own interests and opinions and activities and friends, affecting your right to be a man, or a person. Its not. It may affect your ability to get someone to live subservient to you, but you may want to question why you find that attractive anyway. I can't imagine asking a man to live his life subservient to me..its wrong. Its giving up your being. I'm not willing, or even able, to do that. Some of you guys want a submissive, dependent lap dog who seem surprised when they ulimately become unhappy and without means of support, sue you for alimony. On the other hand, a disturbingly few women are truly people, in their own right. It makes me sad. LOL. I think you are looking at it in a very biased light. My wife is a stay at home mom. She also has her masters degree and could go to work tomorrow if she wanted. She chooses to stay at home with my son (and hopefully another soon). She also has more free time than I do. We split cooking and cleaning (I am better at both ). She volunteers part time and very much has her own life. Come to think of it, she has a hell of a lot more free time than I do. Subservient? Not hardly.
I have a young man that works for me. He is around 25, still lives at home and frankly stinking rich. Every dime he makes goes into savings. He also happens to be a devout Christian and refuses to have sex outside of marriage. Your average female around here is about 3 kids deep. He would be out of his damn mind to marry any of them, much less have sex with them. As to him being a virgin, I think there is a lot of value in that, despite what GD will tell you. Because the fact is if you can put up with someone without having sex with them then maybe there is something to it. Men will do the dumbest shit JUST because they are getting laid. This is utter truth. If you can't stand to be around someone when you're not fucking her, then you don't have a relationship; you just have a preamble to sex. Celibacy before marriage contributes enormously to marital success, but it gets obscured by correlation with other social indicators such as religion and cultural ideas about relationship. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 12:37:27 AM EDT
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familar w/ the woman. good woman, good person. also she is bi
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Most women, like most anyting, are average. Most women spent most of hteir 20s rejecting average men while fuckign high status men, hoping they will rope him into marriage. Said high status me were also fucking myriad other average looks women. Most avaerage looks womend are not able marry a high status male as said male is just having fun. Most women then turn 30. High status males no longer want to play w/ 30yo averageish women. Said high status male has either settled down w/ a high status female or is continuing to play the field of women in their 20s, fucking the easy picking avere womena nd angling for committment from the really good looking ones. By this time, all the average status males have alreay found a mate or are still not good enough for the average status women who still do not understand their plummetting value on the sexual/reproducitve market. It needs to be expalined to average girls that a really rich/handsome/rich male might show in terst in them, but it is more likely that he is just looking to fuck some low hanging fruit... |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 12:37:47 AM EDT
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I don't disagree except that it should remain in the lexicon. "Friend zoned" means "I'm a victim of my own decisions, but it's not my fault." It's very helpful in identifying immaturity. Consider the difference between "She friend zoned me" versus "I let myself get stuck in the friend zone." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When someone complains about being "friendzoned" I always wonder if: a). they narrowly escaped being used by a bad woman b). were willingly playing the lackey to a bad woman and just want to bitch c). if they're creeping on a woman who doesn't want them but just hasn't said "get away from me, creep!" yet. I think it's a totally BS term that doesn't help anyone make sense of unrequited love situations. It's not BS. The FriendZone is real, and every guy has been in it at least once in his life. However, what most fail to realize is that the guy is there voluntarily. He put himself there. Any man who is honest with himself will understand that. Labeling a situation "The FriendZone" doesn't help a person take accountability for his or her role in the situation. The term 'friendzoned' turns it into something where a friendzoner does something unfair to passive friendzonee. It's like "White Privilege" or "Male Privilege". You can make a case that it does happen, but it feeds a victim mindset that you're just better off without. And you'll never agree as to whether you were a victim or you just aren't wanted that way. So the terms are useless at best, and harmful at worst and should be stricken from our lexicon. I don't disagree except that it should remain in the lexicon. "Friend zoned" means "I'm a victim of my own decisions, but it's not my fault." It's very helpful in identifying immaturity. Consider the difference between "She friend zoned me" versus "I let myself get stuck in the friend zone." I prefer more precise descriptive terms, though, I admit, a kind of 'verbal Ed Hardy shirt" can be pretty handy. For instance, "my love for her was unrequited, yet she wished to continue our cordial platonic acquaintance, which I found tedious, for lack of interest in her social discourse absent the possibility baser relations.". The friendzone makes it sound like friendship after a rejection is an insult. If I creeped on you and you rejected me, I should be glad if you're willing to stay friends. It would be a positive thing. I wouldn't insult the offer by telling my girlfriends I was friendzoned, or stuck anywhere. If I were too heartbroken by your rejection, I might turn down your generous offer of friendship, to spare myself the grief. But I wouldn't blame you for my sadness. And if I stuck around, I wouldn't resent you for it. That would be silly and rude. |
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