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Link Posted: 3/2/2015 11:01:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWODaddy:
Sigh...I'm grinding the Panther now.  Everything pens it.  Even tier 5 light tanks firing premium ammo can pen the turret or upper glacis.  

I've had good luck with it, though.  Sniping, of course.
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Originally Posted By SWODaddy:
Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
Originally Posted By jrpett:
Just found this one on Facebook. Supposedly this is from WWII, but I can assure you it's information they DIDN'T disclose to the guys crewing the tanks. Shows armor penetration of Allied tanks vs. German tanks. Good thing that WOT didn't consult this when calculating penetration in their game mechanics, because German tanks would be so OP, they'd almost be invincible. Although some times, I feel like this is the case. Look at all the "Fails at point blank". And the M4A1 Sherman is nothing more than a 35 ton target that throws spitballs.


http://i57.tinypic.com/2w515l0.jpg
And yet, absolutely everything pens a panther in game  
Sigh...I'm grinding the Panther now.  Everything pens it.  Even tier 5 light tanks firing premium ammo can pen the turret or upper glacis.  

I've had good luck with it, though.  Sniping, of course.



Well here is Good news it Only takes 430 Damage from a SU-152 HE shell

Now if i remember to use AP on Mediums like i should be maybe it would hit the 750 Damage i like.
Link Posted: 3/2/2015 11:03:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CrazedCat:


Re Posting From this Morning for COASTIE.



JOE COASTIE I CAN NOT BELIEVE I JUST PULLED THIS OFF.



1st one took about 100 games maybe less but Damn it was so Worth it getting it.



4k Plus Damage game with Assist damage



Battle achievements High Caliber, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"



WN8: 4 943



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The assist and 4 kills really helped you out on that one. That's pretty low damage for a tank like that. Not knocking your mastery, just sayin. Congrats on it. Glad you like it so much. Just wait till the ish and the BL10. You'll have to play with relaxed fit pants on because I know it would be uncomfortable for you otherwise. Lol

 



Oh, and no matter how awesome the BL10 is, it's not going through a Pershing mantlet. Just an FYI. Have fun out there.
Link Posted: 3/2/2015 11:07:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CrazedCat:


SU-152 Question Since i am real Close to 3rd Skill on the crew.



Should i retrain them to this



1st Skill



Commander 6th Sense rest of them Camo.



2nd skill Full BIA or Almost Full Repairs Commander Camo to finish out camo. here is where i need most help.



3rd Gunner / View range Skills
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IMHO you need to get that thing with as Mich view range as it can get. Tracked TD's are dead TD's get at least a few on repair. BIA is not the end all be all. You can supplement with vents or rations if you're that concerned about it. All of us have at least a few tanks that are our go to tanks and run cracked out crews. But if this is for a pub stomping crew I would stick to the basic skills that most crews should have.

 
Link Posted: 3/2/2015 11:24:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
The assist and 4 kills really helped you out on that one. That's pretty low damage for a tank like that. Not knocking your mastery, just sayin. Congrats on it. Glad you like it so much. Just wait till the ish and the BL10. You'll have to play with relaxed fit pants on because I know it would be uncomfortable for you otherwise. Lol  

Oh, and no matter how awesome the BL10 is, it's not going through a Pershing mantlet. Just an FYI. Have fun out there.
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I got lucky i know it was a low Damage game for the Su-152 hell to be honest i thought it was another Mastery 1 game not the ACE.

My Best Moment in that Game was when a Enemy Su-152 Crested the Hill Showing me the belly you guessed it 1 Shot kill for Full damage of the Tank.

I knew it was a team of Reds and a tier 7 game so i pushed out to the Front and just Went Wrecking shit. I did take a hit in that game though When i Smacked the AT7 i Splash Damaged a friendly.


Yeah Found out About that Pershings Mantlet already from the Su-152's gun lol. i aim just Above the Lower Plate on Pershings Seems to work for Tracking and or Smacking them a decent amount.

Tier 9 / 8's i aim lower plate i am way more Comfortable now with that gun than i should be smacking those tiers.


Link Posted: 3/2/2015 11:36:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/3/2015 12:27:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
I normally drink this....  

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/af/0c/54/af0c54bddb8b5d06739c60d6c30cfe6e.jpg

 
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
       
Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
This shit should be issued by WGing. Goes perfectly with tanking....

http://cocktailenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/jim-beam-kentucky-fire.jpg
At least drink a good whiskey
I normally drink this....  

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/af/0c/54/af0c54bddb8b5d06739c60d6c30cfe6e.jpg

 


Very nice.  I'm usually drinking Maker's Mark.  Budget and all...
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 12:27:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigheadCCT:


2001ws6 and I had something similar yesterday on Cliff. 30 or 35% chance to win and the other team was stacked with a RELIC platoon, asmx/the stig (IIRC), and a few others...somehow we pulled it out.
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Originally Posted By tyman:
We beat a 31% to win map tonight that had a PBKAC platoon on the other team on Mines.  


2001ws6 and I had something similar yesterday on Cliff. 30 or 35% chance to win and the other team was stacked with a RELIC platoon, asmx/the stig (IIRC), and a few others...somehow we pulled it out.

Link Posted: 3/3/2015 12:46:55 AM EDT
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Anyone else having issues the last day or so with the game crashing at the end of matches?

Happened a few times for me; mostly on wins.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:00:24 AM EDT
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Bass, this one is was for you.... since you weren't n to play the M7 yesterday.
This was a 17K+ WN8












 
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:21:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Very nice.  I'm usually drinking Maker's Mark.  Budget and all...

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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:


Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:

       
Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:

This shit should be issued by WGing. Goes perfectly with tanking....



http://cocktailenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/jim-beam-kentucky-fire.jpg

At least drink a good whiskey

I normally drink this....  



https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/af/0c/54/af0c54bddb8b5d06739c60d6c30cfe6e.jpg



 




Very nice.  I'm usually drinking Maker's Mark.  Budget and all...





 
Where the fuck are you, with you FCM36Whatever? I'm stuck playing with the MYTH guys!



Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:37:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:





  Where the fuck are you, with you FCM36Whatever? I'm stuck playing with the MYTH guys!





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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:


Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:


Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:

       
Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:

This shit should be issued by WGing. Goes perfectly with tanking....



http://cocktailenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/jim-beam-kentucky-fire.jpg

At least drink a good whiskey

I normally drink this....  



https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/af/0c/54/af0c54bddb8b5d06739c60d6c30cfe6e.jpg



 




Very nice.  I'm usually drinking Maker's Mark.  Budget and all...



  Where the fuck are you, with you FCM36Whatever? I'm stuck playing with the MYTH guys!





Didn't hear you complaining about the 80% win rate for the night

 
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:41:29 AM EDT
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Didn't hear you complaining about the 80% win rate for the night  
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80%? srsly?







I don't keep track anymore...noob.


 
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:44:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:





  80%? srsly?





I don't keep track anymore...noob.

 
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:

Didn't hear you complaining about the 80% win rate for the night  


  80%? srsly?





I don't keep track anymore...noob.

 
Yeah man. We were stomping it tonight. Well you guys were till I finally got into the groove of things.



 
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:46:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:



Yeah man. We were stomping it tonight. Well you guys were till I finally got into the groove of things.

 
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:



Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:


Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:

Didn't hear you complaining about the 80% win rate for the night  


  80%? srsly?





I don't keep track anymore...noob.

 
Yeah man. We were stomping it tonight. Well you guys were till I finally got into the groove of things.

 




 



 Thanks for saving me from drunk tanking alone.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 3:37:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:





 



 Thanks for saving me from drunk tanking alone.

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Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:



Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:


Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:


Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:

Didn't hear you complaining about the 80% win rate for the night  


  80%? srsly?





I don't keep track anymore...noob.

 
Yeah man. We were stomping it tonight. Well you guys were till I finally got into the groove of things.

 


 



 Thanks for saving me from drunk tanking alone.

I had figured as much. Dat reaction time doh.



 
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 7:30:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Old_Painless:


Recently I was in a game with my SU-152 and there were Tier IX tanks.  I shot a M-103 that was about at 95% health.  I hit him with a gold round in the engine.  It knocked him to around 30% health, but he was on fire.  He burned down to zero and died.

I bet he was cussing.

I love that tank and the 152 gun.

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Nice OP i am Really taking my time with the SU-152 and learning everything i can with it now Before i Eventually get to the ISU-152 the Good thing with the Next tank the ISU i only have to Research The BL-10 and tracks..

I am learning what rounds work for what tanks and what rounds don't HE will Cause Damage to all tanks the HEAT round is Best for the Tier 8's and 9's though due to the 250 Pen Minimum.

The crew  Hopefully is half way thru 3rd skills Before i move on to the ISU-152
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 9:12:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CrazedCat:
SU-152 Question Since i am real Close to 3rd Skill on the crew.

Should i retrain them to this

1st Skill

Commander 6th Sense rest of them Camo.

2nd skill Full BIA or Almost Full Repairs Commander Camo to finish out camo. here is where i need most help.

3rd Gunner / View range Skills
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I went on the ISU (that came from the SU and will soon be 704 cause I should have the money soon)

6th and camo
BIA
Recon / Snap shot / Clutch Braking / Repairs / Safe Stowage
Safe stowage I reskilled to 100% and I am training Camo again

Link Posted: 3/3/2015 9:18:20 AM EDT
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Anyone else having issues the last day or so with the game crashing at the end of matches?

Happened a few times for me; mostly on wins.
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End of matches ....NO

Starting matches/ Durring matches/ end of matches / while sitting in Garage

YEA I AM ...Y do you ask? its wargamings new mod to keep the game interesting

They put that mod in because Like the artillery at the beginning of the match .... its just something new that doesnt mean shit and we dont have time to fix the things about the game that we have truely BROKEN

they did FIX camo though.... when you can be lit by any tank in the game in a TD but that tank not be lit.... Oh hell yea

Try being killed by a MAUS while driving a WT E100 and the MAUS Never lighting

Am I ranting .... sorry
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 9:27:17 AM EDT
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OK Is anyone Playing the T49 and CONSISTENTLY doing well in it?

If so I would LOVE some pointers and in game help if possible.

This tank is right up there with the freakin M5 for being fun to play

BOOM 900 damage

the next 15 will be

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and thats the ones where you actually HIT
Sniping is totally useless most of the time
Snapshoting is like arty (frankly I think my M12 is better at it)
Mobility is good but not good enough Leisure driving an E100 couldnt track me circling him and kill me

hopping in behind the heavies is a good Idea but if you miss a tank thats there ..... DONE

So what is it you do with this POS to do consistently more than server average damage of 900 and .66 kills
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 9:29:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CrazedCat:



Nice OP i am Really taking my time with the SU-152 and learning everything i can with it now Before i Eventually get to the ISU-152 the Good thing with the Next tank the ISU i only have to Research The BL-10 and tracks..

I am learning what rounds work for what tanks and what rounds don't HE will Cause Damage to all tanks the HEAT round is Best for the Tier 8's and 9's though due to the 250 Pen Minimum.

The crew  Hopefully is half way thru 3rd skills Before i move on to the ISU-152
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Originally Posted By Old_Painless:


Recently I was in a game with my SU-152 and there were Tier IX tanks.  I shot a M-103 that was about at 95% health.  I hit him with a gold round in the engine.  It knocked him to around 30% health, but he was on fire.  He burned down to zero and died.

I bet he was cussing.

I love that tank and the 152 gun.




Nice OP i am Really taking my time with the SU-152 and learning everything i can with it now Before i Eventually get to the ISU-152 the Good thing with the Next tank the ISU i only have to Research The BL-10 and tracks..

I am learning what rounds work for what tanks and what rounds don't HE will Cause Damage to all tanks the HEAT round is Best for the Tier 8's and 9's though due to the 250 Pen Minimum.

The crew  Hopefully is half way thru 3rd skills Before i move on to the ISU-152


ISU is MORE BETTER in every way and no point in staying with the SU when you have it researched because with the ISU youll be using the same gun until you get to the BL10 which is EPIC  you dont switch ammo you just kill stuff
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 10:04:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Larrys1911:
OK Is anyone Playing the T49 and CONSISTENTLY doing well in it?

If so I would LOVE some pointers and in game help if possible.

This tank is right up there with the freakin M5 for being fun to play

BOOM 900 damage

the next 15 will be

265
123
45
76
267
12
452
78
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367
298
512
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and thats the ones where you actually HIT
Sniping is totally useless most of the time
Snapshoting is like arty (frankly I think my M12 is better at it)
Mobility is good but not good enough Leisure driving an E100 couldnt track me circling him and kill me

hopping in behind the heavies is a good Idea but if you miss a tank thats there ..... DONE

So what is it you do with this POS to do consistently more than server average damage of 900 and .66 kills
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I am having about the same experience with it that you are.  I try to snipe at the beginning--anticipate where the enemy might come from, let the reticle settle and then crank a shot off.

On the move, if I have a tank in the open, I will use the auto aim.

Otherwise, I try to hang back, let the match develop, and then get behind something and hit it when they are looking at someone else.

It is not a light--many expect you to play it that way.  It is not a medium either, it reloads too slow.  I just try to pick and choose carefully where I engage with it.

It does kill a lot of modules for sure though on heavies.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 10:23:54 AM EDT
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I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 10:25:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.
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I'm terrible in the WTF E100, I'd have been happier with the JPE 100.  I am looking forward to the WTF E100 replacement though, I'm hearing it's going to be quite good.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 10:27:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By billpete:





I am having about the same experience with it that you are.  I try to snipe at the beginning--anticipate where the enemy might come from, let the reticle settle and then crank a shot off.


On the move, if I have a tank in the open, I will use the auto aim.


Otherwise, I try to hang back, let the match develop, and then get behind something and hit it when they are looking at someone else.


It is not a light--many expect you to play it that way.  It is not a medium either, it reloads too slow.  I just try to pick and choose carefully where I engage with it.


It does kill a lot of modules for sure though on heavies.
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Originally Posted By Larrys1911:


OK Is anyone Playing the T49 and CONSISTENTLY doing well in it?


If so I would LOVE some pointers and in game help if possible.


This tank is right up there with the freakin M5 for being fun to play


BOOM 900 damage


the next 15 will be


265


123


45


76


267


12


452


78


53


367


298


512


10


45


and thats the ones where you actually HIT


Sniping is totally useless most of the time


Snapshoting is like arty (frankly I think my M12 is better at it)


Mobility is good but not good enough Leisure driving an E100 couldnt track me circling him and kill me


hopping in behind the heavies is a good Idea but if you miss a tank thats there ..... DONE


So what is it you do with this POS to do consistently more than server average damage of 900 and .66 kills
I am having about the same experience with it that you are.  I try to snipe at the beginning--anticipate where the enemy might come from, let the reticle settle and then crank a shot off.


On the move, if I have a tank in the open, I will use the auto aim.


Otherwise, I try to hang back, let the match develop, and then get behind something and hit it when they are looking at someone else.


It is not a light--many expect you to play it that way.  It is not a medium either, it reloads too slow.  I just try to pick and choose carefully where I engage with it.


It does kill a lot of modules for sure though on heavies.
Last night, Larry and I practiced with his T49 and my E-100 (no spall liner), in a training room.  He never once did more than 225-250 (Larry correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember any).  Most hits were in the mid-100's.  Tried all 3 types of ammo. Shot the ground under my tank, shot my lower glacis.  Shot me dead on in the back of the hull (one bounced at 90 degrees, and 15 m).  Shot me from on a hill, into my rear engine deck.  Shot the ground, under my tank to see if HE would work there.  Shot the side of my turret.  He didn't bounce too many rounds, but at least 3-4 did bounce out of 20-ish.  Almost every hit on the hull (anywhere but the turret) tracked the E-100.  For the final insult, I loaded HE and hit him for a full 1100 one-shot that his somewhere on his front at approx 50 m.
 






Of course, later in the evening, while platooned with Larry and one of his clan-mates, I saw his clan mate hit a Bat Chat and something else for 800+ each. that was two shots in a row.
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Originally Posted By Larrys1911:
OK Is anyone Playing the T49 and CONSISTENTLY doing well in it?

If so I would LOVE some pointers and in game help if possible.

This tank is right up there with the freakin M5 for being fun to play

BOOM 900 damage

the next 15 will be

265
123
45
76
267
12
452
78
53
367
298
512
10
45

and thats the ones where you actually HIT
Sniping is totally useless most of the time
Snapshoting is like arty (frankly I think my M12 is better at it)
Mobility is good but not good enough Leisure driving an E100 couldnt track me circling him and kill me

hopping in behind the heavies is a good Idea but if you miss a tank thats there ..... DONE

So what is it you do with this POS to do consistently more than server average damage of 900 and .66 kills
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I'm ok with the T49 but you have to snipe with it early game or try and take shots at distracted tanks.  Late game it starts to shine but I've literally missed point blank shots with that stupid derp gun.  It's a really fun tank and hilarious when you can one shot a bat chat but it's really just a novelty.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 10:37:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.
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Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.
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youll get varying opinions on this coastie but they killed that line and all TDs that cant brawl

they now have:

No view range
No mobility
No armor
No Camo

they are basically Arty  as in they are dependent on teams and maps and IDIOTS on the other team

the ONLY TD that I am still enjoying to any extent

The SU 122/44

I still havent bought the 704 because I cant stand to play TDs anymore

I am very close to hanging this game in the trash bin of history frankly
they keep trying to FIX stuff that THEY BROKE to begin with and every time they do they break 5 other things

I missed a ST1 TWICE sitting broadside last night
with a Type 61 fully aimed and sitting still at under 300 meters

NEXT GAME I threaded a shot on a AMX 1390 through a slot that was literally as big as the width of my reticle line at 400+ meters in the E50
They arent making the game better with this stupid shit they are just making it more random

Edited to say: that tank used to be FANTASTIC man SERIOUSLY now its OK with a GOOD player and Good with a GREAT player...... 6mths ago it was EPIC with a SCRUB in it
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:


Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.


Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.

The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....

I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak
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I am very close to hanging this game in the trash bin of history frankly

they keep trying to FIX stuff that THEY BROKE to begin with and every time they do they break 5 other things

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You are totally missing the forest for the trees, here.  They aren't "fixing" anything.  They are making you grind a different line of tanks.  They may even think that they are doing you a favor, by keeping game play dynamic and ever-changing.
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The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....



I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:


Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:

I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.




Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.


The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....



I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak




 
That's a nearly everyday occurrence for me. I can't even count the number of times I drop a round between the enemy tanks lower glacis and the dirt.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 12:25:00 PM EDT
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Finally got my Mark of Excellence in the ISU-152. I was wondering if it didn't exist for this tonk.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 1:35:49 PM EDT
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On track to the T57 heavy?
Looks in garage.
Chaffee, M7, T37, Bulldog, T21, T49.
This shouldn't be too bad for me. My stats may very well go up for a change.
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  That's a nearly everyday occurrence for me. I can't even count the number of times I drop a round between the enemy tanks lower glacis and the dirt.
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Originally Posted By Smallbore_Freak:
Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.


Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.

The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....

I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak

  That's a nearly everyday occurrence for me. I can't even count the number of times I drop a round between the enemy tanks lower glacis and the dirt.


Yeah, I was baffled...shot was PERFECT in how it went under the tank.  Couldn't do it again if I tried.  Its like shooting through the window at Campinovka.  Nearly impossible to do when you want to do it, but once in about 100 shots is works.

Liesure hit it on the head...WG is not necessarily trying to "improve" the game play as much as they are trying to make it dynamic.  That keeps players grinding different lines to find the latest "OP" tank, buying gold to convert free XP and train crews, and so on.

They also have to cater to the general pubbie crowd that doesn't understand game physics.  Getting shot by some unseen arty was something that everyone cried about, so arty got nerfed.  Then people complained about TD's being OP, so those got nerfed.  The nerf bat keeps working its way around on all lines and tank types to where the net affect is a general power creep up.  The more this happens, the less the game rewards good sound game play and tactics, and the more it rewards players that figure out the system so to speak.  Right now CHAII sniping isn't as good as it used to be, and the game rewards aggressive knife fighting in mediums.

Once the pubbie tears start to pool on the OP medium tanks, get ready for nerf bats to hit those hard, in mobility, turret travers, ROF, etc.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 2:02:15 PM EDT
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Yup, the nerf bat works in a circle.  Soon it'll be light or med tanks, then back to heavy tanks.  I must say I do like the accuracy nerf,  it has helped the survivability of my heavy tanks, and I really haven't felt too much pain from it on my arty or meds.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 2:08:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Larrys1911:
OK Is anyone Playing the T49 and CONSISTENTLY doing well in it?

If so I would LOVE some pointers and in game help if possible.

This tank is right up there with the freakin M5 for being fun to play

BOOM 900 damage

the next 15 will be

265
123
45
76
267
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452
78
53
367
298
512
10
45

and thats the ones where you actually HIT
Sniping is totally useless most of the time
Snapshoting is like arty (frankly I think my M12 is better at it)
Mobility is good but not good enough Leisure driving an E100 couldnt track me circling him and kill me

hopping in behind the heavies is a good Idea but if you miss a tank thats there ..... DONE

So what is it you do with this POS to do consistently more than server average damage of 900 and .66 kills
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I can't help but wonder if WOT made a change in how derp type guns perform in all the tanks. I used to play the Pz. IV H with the derp a lot. And running HE I could consistently do damage in the 200's and 300's with just about every shot. And when I was playing high tier I had my share of one-shot kills. Whatever patch it was that severely nerfed the Hellcat was a game changer. After that, accuracy went to shit, one-shots were rare, and damage dealt went to shit. When I look at the damage indicator, I never saw so many hits in the double digits and 100's. Maybe every 5th shot would be in the high 200's or 300's. It was common to see the indicator panel filled with shots that did 76 to 138. For some reason that range sticks in my head.


A few posts above, Leisure_Shoot said:
"You are totally missing the forest for the trees, here. They aren't "fixing" anything. They are making you grind a different line of tanks. They may even think that they are doing you a favor, by keeping game play dynamic and ever-changing."
That sure seems to be an accurate statement. For me it was the patch that had the big Hellcat nerf, (was that 9.5?). All my go-to vehicles went to shit and I did start to grind more vehicles although they didn't seem to preform that much better. I'm playing lights a lot more now. At least when I miss, I can blame it on firing while moving at full speed while using auto aim, and not be frustrated at fully aimed shots from a TD hitting anywhere but on the target.
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Yup, the nerf bat works in a circle.  Soon it'll be light or med tanks, then back to heavy tanks.  I must say I do like the accuracy nerf,  it has helped the survivability of my heavy tanks, and I really haven't felt too much pain from it on my arty or meds.
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Kv5 is much more survivable now with the needs. Unfortunately it works both ways. My poor T67 is gonna have to rock binos now. That and hitting a stuff at distance was hard enough with that tank. It's just as hard now if not harder

 
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 3:04:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Smallbore_Freak:

The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....

I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.


Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.

The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....

I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak


RHM is fun--remember that match where I ammo racked the IS3 at the beginning of the match?  That was fun!
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 3:25:27 PM EDT
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RHM is fun--remember that match where I ammo racked the IS3 at the beginning of the match?  That was fun!
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Originally Posted By Smallbore_Freak:
Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
I am so glad I didn't bother spending free xp or gold on the wtf E100 line. I enjoyed the nashorn and the toaster wasn't all that bad. The stuer Emil was terrible and honestly the borsig is shit. I thought it would get better but I cannot make this tank work. After all the nerfs to TD's I just can't use it effectively.


Borough is still pretty good, but camo and accuracy nerf make it even more of a troll.  I'm playing it right in the edge of view range and double bushing as much as possible.  Given that it has a turret helps tremendously.  12.8 gun is much less of a troll gun in terms of accuracy,  but does like to blow tracKS off IS3s instead of penning.   Also good at shooting under tanks when aiming at the lower glacis.

The Roomba with the big gun is my favorite TD right now, love that thing.  Sure you get trolled every know and again with a bounce but when you pen.....

I was in a game where he shot UNDER the tank, you should have heard the WTF!? in teamspeak


RHM is fun--remember that match where I ammo racked the IS3 at the beginning of the match?  That was fun!

Fun for you...not so much for him

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I went on the ISU (that came from the SU and will soon be 704 cause I should have the money soon)

6th and camo
BIA
Recon / Snap shot / Clutch Braking / Repairs / Safe Stowage
Safe stowage I reskilled to 100% and I am training Camo again

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Originally Posted By CrazedCat:
SU-152 Question Since i am real Close to 3rd Skill on the crew.

Should i retrain them to this

1st Skill

Commander 6th Sense rest of them Camo.

2nd skill Full BIA or Almost Full Repairs Commander Camo to finish out camo. here is where i need most help.

3rd Gunner / View range Skills



I went on the ISU (that came from the SU and will soon be 704 cause I should have the money soon)

6th and camo
BIA
Recon / Snap shot / Clutch Braking / Repairs / Safe Stowage
Safe stowage I reskilled to 100% and I am training Camo again




TY larry that helps so when i Get to the ISU Sell the SU-152 right.
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Yup, the nerf bat works in a circle.  Soon it'll be light or med tanks, then back to heavy tanks.  I must say I do like the accuracy nerf,  it has helped the survivability of my heavy tanks, and I really haven't felt too much pain from it on my arty or meds.
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This is the silver lining to the storm, for sure. It is like a return to the early days of the game, which is how I started.


 
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This is the silver lining to the storm, for sure. It is like a return to the early days of the game, which is how I started.  
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Originally Posted By Repents:

Yup, the nerf bat works in a circle.  Soon it'll be light or med tanks, then back to heavy tanks.  I must say I do like the accuracy nerf,  it has helped the survivability of my heavy tanks, and I really haven't felt too much pain from it on my arty or meds.
This is the silver lining to the storm, for sure. It is like a return to the early days of the game, which is how I started.  
Same for me. I remember when they switched to "laser" beam accuracy and everyone was all up in arms about it. I do like the Nerf despite it being a significant change to the game. It really does extend your life expectancy since its harder to hit weak points at range.

 
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
Same for me. I remember when they switched to "laser" beam accuracy and everyone was all up in arms about it. I do like the Nerf despite it being a significant change to the game. It really does extend your life expectancy since its harder to hit weak points at range.  
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Originally Posted By Repents:
Yup, the nerf bat works in a circle.  Soon it'll be light or med tanks, then back to heavy tanks.  I must say I do like the accuracy nerf,  it has helped the survivability of my heavy tanks, and I really haven't felt too much pain from it on my arty or meds.
This is the silver lining to the storm, for sure. It is like a return to the early days of the game, which is how I started.  
Same for me. I remember when they switched to "laser" beam accuracy and everyone was all up in arms about it. I do like the Nerf despite it being a significant change to the game. It really does extend your life expectancy since its harder to hit weak points at range.  


True, although I think that what people didn't like about the laser beam accuracy was less about aim shots finding their marks, and more about guys taking random snap shots from across the map and penning for full damage, especially with "derp" guns that were supposed to less accurate then the high velocity cannon counter parts.

The frustration about this most recent nerf is that good players can take carefully aimed shots, and now not only do we have a high probability of getting some troll RNG, like a crit for 0 damage or "mercy bounce," but now you have a very real chance of not hitting the tank at all.  It is even harder to kill low health tanks now.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 7:06:02 PM EDT
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Accuracy nerf working FOR ME?!? Bullshit I say....I have missed fully aimed shots with multi- skilled crews with some of the most laser-like cannons in the game; and been hit on the run in Bulldogs, ELC's, etc. by a KV-2's, T-150's, etc......My 3 skill Panther crew missed a full aim shot at 82 meters on a stopped Chaffee--which then proceeded to pound me as we both got up to speed...
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 7:12:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
Same for me. I remember when they switched to "laser" beam accuracy and everyone was all up in arms about it. I do like the Nerf despite it being a significant change to the game. It really does extend your life expectancy since its harder to hit weak points at range.  
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Originally Posted By Repents:
Yup, the nerf bat works in a circle.  Soon it'll be light or med tanks, then back to heavy tanks.  I must say I do like the accuracy nerf,  it has helped the survivability of my heavy tanks, and I really haven't felt too much pain from it on my arty or meds.
This is the silver lining to the storm, for sure. It is like a return to the early days of the game, which is how I started.  
Same for me. I remember when they switched to "laser" beam accuracy and everyone was all up in arms about it. I do like the Nerf despite it being a significant change to the game. It really does extend your life expectancy since its harder to hit weak points at range.  


The problem is that everything else takes a major step back in effectiveness.  With mediums, lights and tds you now have to pray for good luck in trying to hit a heavy's weak spots even fully aimed.  Ir really sucks the skill out of shooting.  If they tweaked accuracy about half as much it might not be so bad, but what problem are they fixing, that needed fixing anyway?   Even looking at it from the perspective that they want to maximize cash flow, it's not clear how this benefits them.
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They are stinkin' Commies.  What do they understand about Capitalism?



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Originally Posted By Bones45:

Even looking at it from the perspective that they want to maximize cash flow, it's not clear how this benefits them.




They are stinkin' Commies.  What do they understand about Capitalism?



Enough to make money hand over fist from capitalist's
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TY larry that helps so when i Get to the ISU Sell the SU-152 right.
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Once you get the ISU with the BL10 you'll be having so much fun you won't want to drive any other TD.  Sell that puppy off.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 9:39:19 PM EDT
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Started out 8-2 tonight and was SHIT hot.  Finished the TD mission finally with this gem in the Borsig (team melted down and lost it).  We had a 5-2 advantage at the end.  Tiger P, myself, our arty, Tortoise, and 1390 vs. 54E1 and enemy arty.  Rather than all push together like we should have, our Tiger P and 1390 yolo'd individual before the tortois and I could support.  I got there in time to op the 54E1 1x before he clipped me out to kill me.  Tortoise was still watching.  Down 2 vs. 2.  Tortoise continues to watch a particular corner of the map instead of pushing in, then decides to make a run for cap.  He passes up the  3 line as the 54E1 and their arty go down the 8 line towards our cap.  In no uncertain terms ask him to go back to our base, where I'm 100% certain the arty will go to be bait.  What's he do...keeps going to their cap, thinking some how he's going to win that race.  Gets to the C line and they are both on our cap.  He then does an 87 point turn around to go back and they finish the cap before he's 1/2 way back.  Oh well, I  finished the mission.

That was the first of 6 consecutive losses before I quit.  Should have stopped at 3 by my self imposed rule.  I'm not kidding...completing that one mission complete flip flopped RNG for me.  Curiously in ever game after that I got sudden lag spikes...

Anyway, enough whining.  This was my best borsig game.  Only thing better would have been the win.

Link Posted: 3/3/2015 9:44:30 PM EDT
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Have they programmed in some code that makes tracks fall off if a round comes within 10 feet of a tank?
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Accuracy nerf working FOR ME?!? Bullshit I say....I have missed fully aimed shots with multi- skilled crews with some of the most laser-like cannons in the game; and been hit on the run in Bulldogs, ELC's, etc. by a KV-2's, T-150's, etc......My 3 skill Panther crew missed a full aim shot at 82 meters on a stopped Chaffee--which then proceeded to pound me as we both got up to speed...
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I don't know how long you've been playing, but as a heavy player for several years, it appears to me we've done nothing but come back round to where we were just after I started. I'm not complaining...much.

 
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