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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:15:02 PM EDT
Oh, you Republican hypocrite fuckwads. That big, out of control Federal Government is a bad thing, until you can swing it like a weapon when another state does something you don't like, within their own borders. It's rare I truly side with the liberals, but right here is some weapons-grade bullshit from the conservatives. Has either of these states ever proposed a "fuck you" over Federal gun grabbing? Me thinks they probably have on that, or some other issue.
 LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Nebraska and Oklahoma are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to declare Colorado's legalization of marijuana unconstitutional. Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning announced Thursday that the states are seeking a court order to prevent Colorado from enforcing a measure that was approved by voters in 2012. Bruning says Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt is also a party to the lawsuit. The complaint alleges that Colorado's Amendment 64 runs afoul of federal law. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:17:21 PM EDT
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I'm torn. On the one hand, I support legalization. On the other hand, well, it is coLOLrado.  |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:18:53 PM EDT
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Apologies from a Nebraskan.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:20:57 PM EDT
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Apologies from a Nebraskan. +1 I would love to hear his rationale for this tenth amendment issue. 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:23:10 PM EDT
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This is one of those rare instances where the Commerce Clause was actually supposed to be used, to stop trade and economic disputes between state governments.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:23:38 PM EDT
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As a father I'm torn between the legalization of MJ, and the true dangers that exist when it is legalized. I know it is a great drug for many health issues, that dangerous drugs are often prescribed for. But, legalization in its current form is abusive, and does nothing to regulate the drug in a manner which avoids such abuses by those that simply want to avoid the legal consequences of possession. These two states I believe are simply trying to protect their borders from a massive infusion of legalized, illegally obtained marijuana. I've seen how easy it is to get the drug in Colorado, and the increase of school age kids smoking it, because it's easier to obtain now via illegal methods; ie stealing a little of their parents legal weed, legal buyers selling it, etc...
I'm truly torn, I love cutting the head off of the cartels (which legalization won't do). I'm for legitimate use for those with health afflictions. I just hate the massive abuses by xbox commando's, thugs, hippies, and the like. I just hate that it's easier for kids to get, which has been proven in California, Washington, and Colorado. Grammar Nazi's be damned, I didn't spell or grammar check it for mistakes. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:24:10 PM EDT
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The sob stories from all the western NE sheriffs have been hilarious
guess they can dry their tears with new MRAPs or something |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:24:50 PM EDT
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They just mad.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:24:54 PM EDT
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i know, its turble.
the Feds last week even told the Indian Tribes here they didn't care if they grew it, sold it or smoked it. most of the time the R's are their own worst enemy, |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:26:39 PM EDT
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Jon Bruning is probably like most other staunch conservaties in government- he is secretly a butt pirate.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:27:26 PM EDT
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The question is,is the legalization right or wrong under the law. The easy solution is to remove the federal law as it is a stretch to include it under the interstate commerance clause.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:27:54 PM EDT
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At least Wyoming had a sense of humor about it.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:28:52 PM EDT
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Oh look, LIBertarian tears!
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:29:59 PM EDT
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Hmmm, another way to look at is if they lose then states rights wins.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:30:21 PM EDT
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Ha Ha
I hope Kansas joins in too! |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:30:39 PM EDT
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At least Wyoming had a sense of humor about it. <a href="http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/Stash_Dwornicki/media/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y419/Stash_Dwornicki/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg</a>  That is pretty much how I feel about the situation!
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:31:41 PM EDT
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At least Wyoming had a sense of humor about it. <a href="http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/Stash_Dwornicki/media/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y419/Stash_Dwornicki/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg</a> 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:33:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look, LIBertarian tears! Who's crying? Pointing out that Republicans are full of hypocritical shit on the issue isn't an emotional outburst, it's making fun. I don't live in any one of these three states, line-toter.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:33:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha Ha I hope Kansas joins in too! Me too. More egg on everyone's face that way.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:39:51 PM EDT
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Who's crying? Pointing out that Republicans are full of hypocritical shit on the issue isn't an emotional outburst, it's making fun. I don't live in any one of these three states, line-toter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh look, LIBertarian tears! Who's crying? Pointing out that Republicans are full of hypocritical shit on the issue isn't an emotional outburst, it's making fun. I don't live in any one of these three states, line-toter. Oh, ok 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:55:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, ok Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh look, LIBertarian tears! Who's crying? Pointing out that Republicans are full of hypocritical shit on the issue isn't an emotional outburst, it's making fun. I don't live in any one of these three states, line-toter. Oh, ok Awesome retort. Make it all about me, since your party can't decide whether to fight a revolution or suck on the Federal teet. I'm the bad guy. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:55:33 PM EDT
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I view the Feds not enforcing drug laws the same as not enforcing immigration laws. If we allow the federal government to cherry pick what laws the want to ignore or enforce then the laws and the Constitution will become worthless. Congress needs to change the law, the Administration shouldn't be telling law enforcement to selectively ignore established law as a work around.
Wouldn't it be hypocritical for one to be against Obama's actions on immigration yet support his actions on marijuana? It's the same tactic, if he has the power to ignore one law they can ignore any of them. I'm pro-legalization but I also support these states trying to make the Feds do the job they are obligated and funded to do.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:58:17 PM EDT
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i know, its turble. the Feds last week even told the Indian Tribes here they didn't care if they grew it, sold it or smoked it. most of the time the R's are their own worst enemy, I'm waiting for weed shops inside the casinos here
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:58:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I view the Feds not enforcing drug laws the same as not enforcing immigration laws. If we allow the federal government to cherry pick what laws the want to ignore or enforce then the laws and the Constitution will become worthless. Congress needs to change the law, the Administration shouldn't be telling law enforcement to selectively ignore established law as a work around. Wouldn't it be hypocritical for one to be against Obama's actions on immigration yet support his actions on marijuana? It's the same tactic, if he has the power to ignore one law they can ignore any of them. I'm pro-legalization but I also support these states trying to make the Feds do the job they are obligated and funded to do. I agree in principle, but how many states have vowed to remove themselves from Federal gun laws, Obamacare, etc? How many have made declarations they will not be held to these shit laws? I'm commenting on the hypocrisy, not the Federales cherry picking enforcement. On a personal level, I'm happy when they stop enforcing nanny-state horseshit. That's very different from immigration law, IMHO.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:59:21 PM EDT
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It is a Federal law that was passed and survived judicial review. We have states violating the shit out of it, we have the Fed .Gov enforcing it in a patchwork uneven manner, we have various levels of LE seizing property belonging to companies renting property to Medical Marijuana stores, we have people buying "legal weed" and transporting it across state lines, and some people getting a slap on the wrist and others doing hard time.
Yeah I think this is an appropriate time for the Supreme Court to pull it's head out of John Roberts' asshole and do their job. Either it is illegal or it is legal, this is some BS with the law and it needs to be addressed. If you dopers do not like it lobby CONGRESS TO CHANGE THE LAW. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a father I'm torn between the legalization of MJ, and the true dangers that exist when it is legalized. I know it is a great drug for many health issues, that dangerous drugs are often prescribed for. But, legalization in its current form is abusive, and does nothing to regulate the drug in a manner which avoids such abuses by those that simply want to avoid the legal consequences of possession. These two states I believe are simply trying to protect their borders from a massive infusion of legalized, illegally obtained marijuana. I've seen how easy it is to get the drug in Colorado, and the increase of school age kids smoking it, because it's easier to obtain now via illegal methods; ie stealing a little of their parents legal weed, legal buyers selling it, etc... I'm truly torn, I love cutting the head off of the cartels (which legalization won't do). I'm for legitimate use for those with health afflictions. I just hate the massive abuses by xbox commando's, thugs, hippies, and the like. I just hate that it's easier for kids to get, which has been proven in California, Washington, and Colorado. Grammar Nazi's be damned, I didn't spell or grammar check it for mistakes. So a bunch of neckbeards want to toke up.... fuck it. Legalize it and get it over with. Stupid marijuana laws make my job harder as a cop. Why the fuck are we so worried about marijuana when a shit ton of folks are raging alcoholics? I say legalize weed... I smoke tobacco and folks are jumping my shit about that...
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:08:03 PM EDT
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As a father I'm torn between the legalization of MJalcohol, and the true dangers that exist when it is legalized. I know it is a great drug for many health issues, that dangerous drugs are often prescribed for. But, legalization in its current form is abusive, and does nothing to regulate the drug in a manner which avoids such abuses by those that simply want to avoid the legal consequences of possession. These two states I believe are simply trying to protect their borders from a massive infusion of legalized, illegally obtained marijuanaalcohol. I've seen how easy it is to get the drug in Colorado, and the increase of school age kids smokingdrinking it, because it's easier to obtain now via illegal methods; ie stealing a little of their parents legal weedbooze, legal buyers selling it, etc... I'm truly torn, I love cutting the head off of the cartelsdistillers and breweries (which legalization won't do). I'm for legitimate use for those with health afflictions. I just hate the massive abuses by xbox commando's, thugs, hippies, and the like. I just hate that it's easier for kids to get, which has been proven in California, Washington, and Colorado. Grammar Nazi's be damned, I didn't spell or grammar check it for mistakes. Now, doesn't your post seem silly? Oh Noes!! Reefer madness!!!11! Oh, and don't forget to think of the chirruns... |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:10:22 PM EDT
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I was a die hard GOP man... but the shit they've pulled since GWB is really starting to put a sour taste in my mouth.... and I say this as someone that campaigned heavily for GWB and have a personally written letter thanking me for my service.
The GOP is starting to show their true colors. They aren't for small government. They're for their own version of it. The GOP and Democrats are the opposite sides of the same coin... GOVERNMENT. I say this as a government agent too.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a Federal law that was passed and survived judicial review. We have states violating the shit out of it, we have the Fed .Gov enforcing it in a patchwork uneven manner, we have various levels of LE seizing property belonging to companies renting property to Medical Marijuana stores, we have people buying "legal weed" and transporting it across state lines, and some people getting a slap on the wrist and others doing hard time. Yeah I think this is an appropriate time for the Supreme Court to pull it's head out of John Roberts' asshole and do their job. Either it is illegal or it is legal, this is some BS with the law and it needs to be addressed. If you dopers do not like it lobby CONGRESS TO CHANGE THE LAW. For the third time, this is about the states using the Federal government to punish social policy when you feel like it, and giving tough talk when it's about something you don't. Talk about patchwork, inconsistent, and uneven. I agree we should address it at the Federal level, but that doesn't excuse having the same hypocrisy that we lambaste the liberals for. BTW, I don't smoke MJ, and wouldn't if it were free. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:11:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I view the Feds not enforcing drug laws the same as not enforcing immigration laws. If we allow the federal government to cherry pick what laws the want to ignore or enforce then the laws and the Constitution will become worthless. Congress needs to change the law, the Administration shouldn't be telling law enforcement to selectively ignore established law as a work around. Wouldn't it be hypocritical for one to be against Obama's actions on immigration yet support his actions on marijuana? It's the same tactic, if he has the power to ignore one law they can ignore any of them. I'm pro-legalization but I also support these states trying to make the Feds do the job they are obligated and funded to do. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:13:23 PM EDT
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Wouldn't it be hypocritical for one to be against Obama's actions on immigration yet support his actions on marijuana? It's the same tactic, if he has the power to ignore one law they can ignore any of them. I'm pro-legalization but I also support these states trying to make the Feds do the job they are obligated and funded to do. Good luck with that. The only reason the feds aren't arresting internet porn stars is because they don't enforce obscenity laws. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I view the Feds not enforcing drug laws the same as not enforcing immigration laws. If we allow the federal government to cherry pick what laws the want to ignore or enforce then the laws and the Constitution will become worthless. Congress needs to change the law, the Administration shouldn't be telling law enforcement to selectively ignore established law as a work around. I'm pro-legalization but I also support these states trying to make the Feds do the job they are obligated and funded to do. Good luck with that. The only reason the feds aren't arresting internet porn stars is because they don't enforce obscenity laws. Or maybe because it's not obscene? And protected by the !st Amendment? Damn! My last two posts have promoted underage drug use and the entirely wholesome nature of midget anal porn. WTH is wrong with me?? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:13:39 PM EDT
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As a father I'm torn between the legalization of MJ, and the true dangers that exist when it is legalized. I know it is a great drug for many health issues, that dangerous drugs are often prescribed for. But, legalization in its current form is abusive, and does nothing to regulate the drug in a manner which avoids such abuses by those that simply want to avoid the legal consequences of possession. These two states I believe are simply trying to protect their borders from a massive infusion of legalized, illegally obtained marijuana. I've seen how easy it is to get the drug in Colorado, and the increase of school age kids smoking it, because it's easier to obtain now via illegal methods; ie stealing a little of their parents legal weed, legal buyers selling it, etc... I'm truly torn, I love cutting the head off of the cartels (which legalization won't do). I'm for legitimate use for those with health afflictions. I just hate the massive abuses by xbox commando's, thugs, hippies, and the like. I just hate that it's easier for kids to get, which has been proven in California, Washington, and Colorado. Grammar Nazi's be damned, I didn't spell or grammar check it for mistakes. Exactly how high are you currently? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:14:10 PM EDT
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The sob stories from all the western NE sheriffs have been hilarious guess they can dry their tears with new MRAPs or something |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:14:17 PM EDT
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I view the Feds not enforcing drug laws the same as not enforcing immigration laws. If we allow the federal government to cherry pick what laws the want to ignore or enforce then the laws and the Constitution will become worthless. Congress needs to change the law, the Administration shouldn't be telling law enforcement to selectively ignore established law as a work around. Wouldn't it be hypocritical for one to be against Obama's actions on immigration yet support his actions on marijuana? It's the same tactic, if he has the power to ignore one law they can ignore any of them. I'm pro-legalization but I also support these states trying to make the Feds do the job they are obligated and funded to do. You have completely missed the point. This isn't two States suing to force the Federal government to enforce Federal law in another State. This is two States suing to make the Federal government tell another State what it MUST outlaw. Did I say States? I meant provinces. Because that's what we have. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:14:42 PM EDT
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At least Wyoming had a sense of humor about it. <a href="http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/Stash_Dwornicki/media/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y419/Stash_Dwornicki/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg</a> Fucking perfect. OMG, I love that. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:14:50 PM EDT
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Jon Bruning is probably like most other staunch conservaties in government- he is secretly a butt pirate. Those rumors about NE pol's never seem to go away somewhat like the rumors about M Jackson |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:15:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a die hard GOP man... but the shit they've pulled since GWB is really starting to put a sour taste in my mouth.... and I say this as someone that campaigned heavily for GWB and have a personally written letter thanking me for my service. The GOP is starting to show their true colors. They aren't for small government. They're for their own version of it. The GOP and Democrats are the opposite sides of the same coin... GOVERNMENT. I say this as a government agent too. Also, keep in mind that "smaller government" means less people doing the same shit to a lot of people nowadays. The opposite of "big government" is "limited government." |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:16:45 PM EDT
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Fuck you guys!
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:17:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At least Wyoming had a sense of humor about it. http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y419/Stash_Dwornicki/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:18:40 PM EDT
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You know what? I don't like Big Red.
I think I'll petition the Federal government to make the State of Oklahoma outlaw it. That and RC Cola. Because that's what Federalism is all about! Making sure the Federal government makes all laws uniform and identical throughout the land. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:19:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me too. More egg on everyone's face that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ha Ha I hope Kansas joins in too! Me too. More egg on everyone's face that way. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:19:47 PM EDT
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The GOP is starting to show their true colors. They aren't for small government. They're for their own version of it. The GOP and Democrats are the opposite sides of the same coin... GOVERNMENT. I say this as a government agent too. The GOP hasn't had any real leadership since after the 2008 elections. The Tea Party didn't last long enough to influence the national party. Also, keep in mind that "smaller government" means less people doing the same shit to a lot of people nowadays. The opposite of "big government" is "limited government." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was a die hard GOP man... but the shit they've pulled since GWB is really starting to put a sour taste in my mouth.... and I say this as someone that campaigned heavily for GWB and have a personally written letter thanking me for my service. They aren't for small government. They're for their own version of it. The GOP and Democrats are the opposite sides of the same coin... GOVERNMENT. I say this as a government agent too. The GOP hasn't had any real leadership since after the 2008 elections. The Tea Party didn't last long enough to influence the national party. Also, keep in mind that "smaller government" means less people doing the same shit to a lot of people nowadays. The opposite of "big government" is "limited government." The tea part lasted about 6 weeks as a movement of "smaller government." Then it got taken over by social crusaders, xenophobes, and trade protectionists. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:21:32 PM EDT
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Hell no, our state troopers are having to much fun busting drivers in possession or high crossing the border. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ha Ha I hope Kansas joins in too! Me too. More egg on everyone's face that way. Hell no, our state troopers are having to much fun busting drivers in possession or high crossing the border. KHP officers actually focus on trying to get personal stashes? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At least Wyoming had a sense of humor about it. http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y419/Stash_Dwornicki/magpul_stateline_final-2_zps70c37970.jpg Fuckers stole my idea.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:24:04 PM EDT
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The sob stories from all the western NE sheriffs have been hilarious guess they can dry their tears with new MRAPs or something Has there been an uptick in dancing and black men looking at white women? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:26:13 PM EDT
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Has there been an uptick in dancing and black men looking at white women? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The sob stories from all the western NE sheriffs have been hilarious guess they can dry their tears with new MRAPs or something Has there been an uptick in dancing and black men looking at white women? #Jazzmusicfestival |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha Ha I hope Kansas joins in too!   |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:27:33 PM EDT
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So successful country on earth has legal drugs. Fuck Marijuana and libertarians
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:28:02 PM EDT
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As a father I'm torn between the legalization of MJ, and the true dangers that exist when it is legalized. I know it is a great drug for many health issues, that dangerous drugs are often prescribed for. But, legalization in its current form is abusive, and does nothing to regulate the drug in a manner which avoids such abuses by those that simply want to avoid the legal consequences of possession. These two states I believe are simply trying to protect their borders from a massive infusion of legalized, illegally obtained marijuana. I've seen how easy it is to get the drug in Colorado, and the increase of school age kids smoking it, because it's easier to obtain now via illegal methods; ie stealing a little of their parents legal weed, legal buyers selling it, etc... I'm truly torn, I love cutting the head off of the cartels (which legalization won't do). I'm for legitimate use for those with health afflictions. I just hate the massive abuses by xbox commando's, thugs, hippies, and the like. I just hate that it's easier for kids to get, which has been proven in California, Washington, and Colorado. Grammar Nazi's be damned, I didn't spell or grammar check it for mistakes. Why do you care if someone else wants to possess things you don't like? Do you think we should ban alcohol because people abuse it? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:29:28 PM EDT
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Hmmm, another way to look at is if they lose then states rights wins. I'm rooting for state and individual rights. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:30:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ha Ha I hope Kansas joins in too! Me too. More egg on everyone's face that way.  Yep, I bet ya that the state troopers around Goodland and Colby are damn near paying for the whole KHP budget. |
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