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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:40:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:44:35 PM EDT
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I thought you could ship UPS/fedex if it was overnight from a hub?
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:49:48 PM EDT
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You can ship UPS/fedex if it was overnight from a hub? Fixed |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:53:24 PM EDT
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:57:41 PM EDT
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Yes, UPS told me I could ship from a hub but its not close.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:59:31 PM EDT
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:02:12 PM EDT
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So when you ship a gun via UPS they do not have a way to mark it as a firearm. This is so there employees don't steal it. So basically if you ship it and there is some problem they cannot disprove that you told the person at the hub it was a gun.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:03:42 PM EDT
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My FFL to his FFL is expensive and time consuming. Find a different FFL. http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/listing-FFLs USPS Priority FRB with insurance shouldn't be more than $30, add transfer fee to that, will be cheaper and easier than UPS or FedEx overnight. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:04:38 PM EDT
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Find a different FFL. http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/listing-FFLs USPS Priority FRB with insurance shouldn't be more than $30, add transfer fee to that, will be cheaper and easier than UPS or FedEx overnight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My FFL to his FFL is expensive and time consuming. Find a different FFL. http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/listing-FFLs USPS Priority FRB with insurance shouldn't be more than $30, add transfer fee to that, will be cheaper and easier than UPS or FedEx overnight. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:07:05 PM EDT
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$25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun YOUR FFL is charging you for a transfer? 
He's not transferring anything. The transfer is done on the buyers side. Correct? (I'm not an FFL, but I've sold and shipped on my own with no issues.) |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:10:26 PM EDT
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When calling around (in Central Ohio), I was very surprised that every FFL (9 or 10) quoted me a minimum of $75+ to ship something.
Finally, I called Cabela's which was $25 dollars. When I went to the store to ship it, they informed me that it would actually be $25 transfer fee + actual shipping (around $75 estimated). Guy actually suggested I ship it myself. Needless to say I was a bit pissed at their bait and switch, but ended up shipping with them to at least get it out in a timely manner to another member here. Surprisingly, they never charged me the additional actual shipping cost. I'm left to wonder if Cabela's is a good deal, or I just got (un)lucky. 
Not sure what the story is on FFLs and USPS, but I'd sure like one around here to get with the program. Cheers, Spenny |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:11:24 PM EDT
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YOUR FFL is charging you for a transfer?
He's not transferring anything. The transfer is done on the buyers side. Correct? (I'm not an FFL, but I've sold and shipped on my own with no issues.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun YOUR FFL is charging you for a transfer?
He's not transferring anything. The transfer is done on the buyers side. Correct? (I'm not an FFL, but I've sold and shipped on my own with no issues.) If he gives it to his FFL to ship, it has to go in their book. Pretty standard for them to charge for that. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:21:16 PM EDT
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If he gives it to his FFL to ship, it has to go in their book. Pretty standard for them to charge for that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun YOUR FFL is charging you for a transfer?
He's not transferring anything. The transfer is done on the buyers side. Correct? (I'm not an FFL, but I've sold and shipped on my own with no issues.) If he gives it to his FFL to ship, it has to go in their book. Pretty standard for them to charge for that. That is what my FFL told me |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:23:04 PM EDT
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I print a Fedex label online, nowhere in that process does it ask what you're shipping. I schedule a pickup and they don't ask then either. I do ship it according to policy, I think it has to be at least Express 2nd day with Fedex, its been awhile though so I'm not 100% sure.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:33:32 PM EDT
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Sold a handgun to guy out of state and need to ship to his FFL that I will have in hand. USPS is illegal and UPS and Fed Ex say no based on their policy. My FFL to his FFL is expensive and time consuming. I am thinking about boxing it up, keeping my mouth shut, and sending UPS insured/tracking/signature required. Any issues with this? USPS - not possible unless you are an FFL FedEx and UPS - yes, but you have to go to a hub. The UPS stores and FedEx drop offs do not take weapons. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:36:10 PM EDT
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. This is how I do it. Transfer fee + UPS Priority Flat Rate box (usually, depends on the size of the gun) + Insurance My FFL's transfer fees are $10... so this usually runs $25-$40 total |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:36:55 PM EDT
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When calling around (in Central Ohio), I was very surprised that every FFL (9 or 10) quoted me a minimum of $75+ to ship something. Finally, I called Cabela's which was $25 dollars. When I went to the store to ship it, they informed me that it would actually be $25 transfer fee + actual shipping (around $75 estimated). Guy actually suggested I ship it myself. Needless to say I was a bit pissed at their bait and switch, but ended up shipping with them to at least get it out in a timely manner to another member here. Surprisingly, they never charged me the additional actual shipping cost. I'm left to wonder if Cabela's is a good deal, or I just got (un)lucky.
Not sure what the story is on FFLs and USPS, but I'd sure like one around here to get with the program. Cheers, Spenny That's not bait and switch. OP, why not have the buyer take on the costs of shipping? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:41:00 PM EDT
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$25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun That is crazy, shipping cost through USPS without insuring the gun is ~$15, if he is charging you another $35 then your FFL is fucking you. I shipped a gun for a customer 2 weeks ago with $1400 insurance and it was less than $30 to ship. ETA: We do not charge to ship a gun for someone, all we are doing is signing it in and then dispo'ing it out and then mailing it |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:43:27 PM EDT
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That's not bait and switch. OP, why not have the buyer take on the costs of shipping? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When calling around (in Central Ohio), I was very surprised that every FFL (9 or 10) quoted me a minimum of $75+ to ship something. Finally, I called Cabela's which was $25 dollars. When I went to the store to ship it, they informed me that it would actually be $25 transfer fee + actual shipping (around $75 estimated). Guy actually suggested I ship it myself. Needless to say I was a bit pissed at their bait and switch, but ended up shipping with them to at least get it out in a timely manner to another member here. Surprisingly, they never charged me the additional actual shipping cost. I'm left to wonder if Cabela's is a good deal, or I just got (un)lucky.
Not sure what the story is on FFLs and USPS, but I'd sure like one around here to get with the program. Cheers, Spenny That's not bait and switch. OP, why not have the buyer take on the costs of shipping? I already agreed to a price shipped |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:44:34 PM EDT
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If it makes you feel better, I have the choice of UPS hub 25 minutes away or my FFL an hour away. There are closer gun shops, but he is the only one that doesn't act like I ran over his dog when I need a transfer or something shipped.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:50:52 PM EDT
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Looks like OP needs to drive to a hub or call around to some more FFLs.
If you do decide to do a UPS print/ship and drop off at UPS box or store, if its lost you'll be SOL. Its a gamble. The odds are pretty good though.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:54:00 PM EDT
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Looks like OP needs to drive to a hub or call around to some more FFLs. Yep, that may be the answer. My worry with just boxing it up and shipping UPS insured (not declaring) is that if it gets lost they may not pay the claim |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 3:04:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/18/2014 3:46:41 PM EDT
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Yep, that may be the answer. My worry with just boxing it up and shipping UPS insured (not declaring) is that if it gets lost they may absolutely will not pay the claim Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like OP needs to drive to a hub or call around to some more FFLs. Yep, that may be the answer. My worry with just boxing it up and shipping UPS insured (not declaring) is that if it gets lost they may absolutely will not pay the claim Fixed. Sounds like your problem is your local FFL's charge high transfer fees. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 3:59:15 PM EDT
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I will never ship another handgun without going thru FFL. I got ass raped by FedEx.
Here are some tips; 1) Dont try and over nite from Friday to Sat - COSTS More 2) Ask about them about insurance and what they charge - I put $600 (was the price of the gun) 3) I had to explain their own policy about shipping handguns and had to explain that I did not have an FFL but an individual can ship to an FFL/Dealer, of course she had to go check with her boss. Apparently no one at this FedEx hub ever shipped a handgun before. Total cost $140. to over nite a handgun. I didnt have the time to go to UPS, I sent it off. I broke even on the deal due to shipping cost. NEVER AGAIN !!!! |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:00:44 PM EDT
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Fixed. Sounds like your problem is your local FFL's charge high transfer fees. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like OP needs to drive to a hub or call around to some more FFLs. Yep, that may be the answer. My worry with just boxing it up and shipping UPS insured (not declaring) is that if it gets lost they may absolutely will not pay the claim Fixed. Sounds like your problem is your local FFL's charge high transfer fees. If you insure it, you have to declare it. Its that simple. Ive had decent luck with Long guns, cuz they dont need to go overnite, its handguns that blow donkey balls to ship. Sadly, my one FFL that I use to ship out of went belly up. $30bux to drop it off to them and they would send it out. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:02:13 PM EDT
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Sold a handgun to guy out of state and need to ship to his FFL that I will have in hand. USPS is illegal and UPS and Fed Ex say no based on their policy. My FFL to his FFL is expensive and time consuming. I am thinking about boxing it up, keeping my mouth shut, and sending UPS insured/tracking/signature required. Any issues with this? Too late, you already posted it on the internet. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:14:37 PM EDT
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Too late, you already posted it on the internet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sold a handgun to guy out of state and need to ship to his FFL that I will have in hand. USPS is illegal and UPS and Fed Ex say no based on their policy. My FFL to his FFL is expensive and time consuming. I am thinking about boxing it up, keeping my mouth shut, and sending UPS insured/tracking/signature required. Any issues with this? Too late, you already posted it on the internet. I wouldnt lie,,if you insure it, you have to list the contents, at any point in the delivery system they can open it. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:16:32 PM EDT
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Just talked to the UPS hub. $130 to ship. WTF
 Looks like the FFL is the only way to go. Lucky it was a high dollar gun. I guess you can't sell a $400 gun online as an individual if you have to ship as there is no way to break even let alone make a profit. This has been a real education.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:17:33 PM EDT
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Sold a handgun to guy out of state and need to ship to his FFL that I will have in hand. USPS is illegal and UPS and Fed Ex say no based on their policy. My FFL to his FFL is expensive and time consuming. I am thinking about boxing it up, keeping my mouth shut, and sending UPS insured/tracking/signature required. Any issues with this? You can ship the gun via FedEx or UPS. You just have to use their priority overnight service according to their policy...which really only matters if you plan to insure the package. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 6:00:46 PM EDT
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You can send it UPS/FedEx thru a hub. All you have to do is declare it, not bring up that you need overnight. The overnight is a company policy. If the clerk lets you send it ground, then you are covered.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 6:02:59 PM EDT
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Will not let you send it ground. Must be overnite, adult sig.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:26:44 PM EDT
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That's not bait and switch. OP, why not have the buyer take on the costs of shipping? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When calling around (in Central Ohio), I was very surprised that every FFL (9 or 10) quoted me a minimum of $75+ to ship something. Finally, I called Cabela's which was $25 dollars. When I went to the store to ship it, they informed me that it would actually be $25 transfer fee + actual shipping (around $75 estimated). Guy actually suggested I ship it myself. Needless to say I was a bit pissed at their bait and switch, but ended up shipping with them to at least get it out in a timely manner to another member here. Surprisingly, they never charged me the additional actual shipping cost. I'm left to wonder if Cabela's is a good deal, or I just got (un)lucky.
Not sure what the story is on FFLs and USPS, but I'd sure like one around here to get with the program. Cheers, Spenny That's not bait and switch. OP, why not have the buyer take on the costs of shipping? If I'm told that shipping a firearm out is a flat $25 on the phone, only to find out it's $100+ upon arriving on the store, is that not bait and switch? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:55:34 PM EDT
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I am a licensee.
If you ship via FEDEX or UPS and violate their tariff, for example by shipping a handgun via ground, you also release them from any and all liability if the gun is damaqged, lost, or stolen in transit. This is true even if you bought insurance. I bet the buyer or you would be pissed if this occurred, and it does happen, even with licensee to licensee shipments. So you need to decide risk of loosing hundreds versus saving $35. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:17:01 PM EDT
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I am a licensee. If you ship via FEDEX or UPS and violate their tariff, for example by shipping a handgun via ground, you also release them from any and all liability if the gun is damaqged, lost, or stolen in transit. This is true even if you bought insurance. I bet the buyer or you would be pissed if this occurred, and it does happen, even with licensee to licensee shipments. So you need to decide risk of loosing hundreds versus saving $35. Agreed, going through the FFL, too much at stake to risk it. This gun cant be replaced easily. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:23:45 PM EDT
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Find a better FFL
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:24:22 PM EDT
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If he gives it to his FFL to ship, it has to go in their book. Pretty standard for them to charge for that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun YOUR FFL is charging you for a transfer?
He's not transferring anything. The transfer is done on the buyers side. Correct? (I'm not an FFL, but I've sold and shipped on my own with no issues.) If he gives it to his FFL to ship, it has to go in their book. Pretty standard for them to charge for that. Yeah but he's charging for it twice. $25 to transfer and $10 for his time? Then $50 for USPS shipping? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:58:46 PM EDT
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I pretty much got out of the shipping a handgun business when UPS told me it had to go overnight, just to damn expensive, I would not try to ship without declaring what it is.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 9:12:04 PM EDT
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Yeah but he's charging for it twice. $25 to transfer and $10 for his time? Then $50 for USPS shipping? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can also take it to your local FFL and have him ship it for you via USPS Priority. Many times it ends up cheaper than over night FedEx/UPS. And the receiving FFL doesn't get all pissy about it being from an individual. $25 to transfer $10 his time $50 shipping $85.00 to ship a handgun YOUR FFL is charging you for a transfer?
He's not transferring anything. The transfer is done on the buyers side. Correct? (I'm not an FFL, but I've sold and shipped on my own with no issues.) If he gives it to his FFL to ship, it has to go in their book. Pretty standard for them to charge for that. Yeah but he's charging for it twice. $25 to transfer and $10 for his time? Then $50 for USPS shipping? Correct there is no "transfer " in the typical sense, all he's doing is writing down the serial # and the recieving FFL's # Takes about 30 seconds, I'd do a 100 per day for $10.00 each
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:22:18 PM EDT
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Correct there is no "transfer " in the typical sense, all he's doing is writing down the serial # and the recieving FFL's # Takes about 30 seconds, I'd do a 100 per day for $10.00 eachThen why aren't you in this business? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:54:51 PM EDT
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I pretty much got out of the shipping a handgun business when UPS told me it had to go overnight, just to damn expensive, I would not try to ship without declaring what it is. UPS requires 2nd day air but for a normal handgun it can go USPS priority insured for $15 or less pretty much anywhere. Figure $20 if you can find a dealer that isn't completely trying to screw you over and you've got $35 in shipping. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:12:07 PM EDT
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Just talked to the UPS hub. $130 to ship. WTF Looks like the FFL is the only way to go. Lucky it was a high dollar gun. I guess you can't sell a $400 gun online as an individual if you have to ship as there is no way to break even let alone make a profit. This has been a real education.Now you see why the buyer was so willing to buy the gun off of you at the agreed upon shipped price. What you assumed was a good deal for you turned out to be a great deal for him after shipping was included.
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