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They have two JLENS blimps at the salt flats, while they can spot cars, moving anything that does not mean that they can identify the license plate or who is in it, just speed and size. I don's see how that violates anyone's privacy, heck awacs have the same ability and they have been flying for years.
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Big.gov have proved to us over and over that they are not to be trusted with surveillance tools. Why should this be any different? I recall Crapper saying "I gave the least dishonest answer I could" which was a "no" when the truth was "yes". If they can lie like this with total impunity, why should we believe what they're saying now?
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Only lived in Sierra Vista for just over a year but this reminds me of the blimp on Ft. Huachuca.
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I still can't understand why anyone would think this is not a GIANT violation of our freedom. Quibble over legality all you want. But it is just plain wrong.
, In saner times, it has been our policy to take our fight to the enemy; to not fight on our soil. We should be invading and conquering, WITHOUT MERCY, the countries that sponsor threats to our territories. |
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Dammit.
I opened this thread expecting pics of Chris Christie & a big helium tank. |
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Not all at once,just a nice gradual slide one little bit at a time.
Think of Freedom and Liberty as a big chunk of ham at the deli-you start out with a huge chunk,who would notice if we just shaved off a thin slice?Then another.And another. Pretty soon,as time goes by,there is nothing left................... |
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They will put those cell tower spoofers in them. View Quote Or eventually some incarnation of Gorgon Stare/ARGUS was what they were probably going for. |
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Not all at once,just a nice gradual slide one little bit at a time. Think of Freedom and Liberty as a big chunk of ham at the deli-you start out with a huge chunk,who would notice if we just shaved off a thin slice?Then another.And another. Pretty soon,as time goes by,there is nothing left................... View Quote |
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- <a href="http://s182.photobucket.com/user/dictum9/media/pol_satire/security1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x260/dictum9/pol_satire/security1.jpg</a> View Quote BTW, the guy who made that poster had a site called "Propaganda Remix". Back in the early 2000s it was pretty popular, especially since he claimed to be a former Ranger with combat time who was fed up... but as someone jaded enough would expect, he turned out to be lying about service he never had in order to boost his own anti-war anti-military credentials and give his work a "been there done that" bite to it. After he was called out by real servicemen, he basically disappeared. (I'd say faded into obscurity, but internet "artist" is already pretty obscure.) |
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ETA: JLENS “has no cameras, it has no video, nor is it tracking any people,” she says. “It does not possess the capability to see people.” Yeah,and the NSA doesn't spy on American citizens,the government didn't sell guns to cartels,and I'll only put the tip in........... |
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An idea on how good some of the stabilized imagers can see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa04TPlP-bU |
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I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE THREAD TITLE MADE ME SO SCARED, I THINK I PEE'D A LITTLE! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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HOLY SHIT, that is a great wall of text What does it say I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE THREAD TITLE MADE ME SO SCARED, I THINK I PEE'D A LITTLE! Post+screename. |
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Yeah,and the NSA doesn't spy on American citizens,the government didn't sell guns to cartels,and I'll only put the tip in........... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ETA: JLENS “has no cameras, it has no video, nor is it tracking any people,” she says. “It does not possess the capability to see people.” Yeah,and the NSA doesn't spy on American citizens,the government didn't sell guns to cartels,and I'll only put the tip in........... I choose reality over conspiracy. |
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It's for your safety. ...and for the kids of course.
Seems the American people are the enemy? |
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I'm super stoked about this! Now everyone can see me swimming naked in my pool, not just my neighbors!!!!
Fuckers are are deploying this 3 miles from me. |
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ETA: JLENS “has no cameras, it has no video, nor is it tracking any people,” she says. “It does not possess the capability to see people.” Yeah,and the NSA doesn't spy on American citizens,the government didn't sell guns to cartels,and I'll only put the tip in........... I choose reality over conspiracy. Did you miss this part? The Army insists that there will be no cameras on JLENS for now. |
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I'm a 14A, I know the guy who is the battery commander for those blimps. They are nothing to be concerned with right now, I won't talk about the sensors on them but it isn't anything to get your panties in a bunch about.
This place sounds like the anti gun arguments about MSRs some times... "but they COULD be used to shoot up a school with their ghost magazine shoulder things that spew death!"
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They will put those cell tower spoofers in them. Or eventually some incarnation of Gorgon Stare/ARGUS was what they were probably going for. |
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People always say,"There are some things only the government can do."
And this is one of them. |
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And while it can see cars, “for the purposes of this test, we have no intent to track any vehicles. Well, any civilian vehicles.” View Quote “Radars can tell that something is moving, but because of the way radars work, they simply can’t determine identifying characteristics of cars, such as make, model or color,” Raytheon says. “Along similar lines, they can’t tell who is driving the vehicle or see a license plate.” View Quote So it won't be used to track civilian vehicles, but it can't tell the difference between them. Maj. Nelson insists that “JLENS is an elevated radar system and has no task to monitor ground targets. It does not organically store any radar data.” View Quote So it can't store it within the system....but what systems is it talking to and what do they store? |
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They have two JLENS blimps at the salt flats, while they can spot cars, moving anything that does not mean that they can identify the license plate or who is in it, just speed and size. I don's see how that violates anyone's privacy, heck awacs have the same ability and they have been flying for years. Tinfoilers always give me a good laugh View Quote Put the dam thing on our border and quit monitoring citizens. You fail! |
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Oh my god people it's a stupid fucking piece of shit blimp for missile and air defense. Take your fucking tinfoil hats off.
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Not all at once,just a nice gradual slide one little bit at a time. Think of Freedom and Liberty as a big chunk of ham at the deli-you start out with a huge chunk,who would notice if we just shaved off a thin slice?Then another.And another. Pretty soon,as time goes by,there is nothing left................... View Quote I'm a privacy freak and this just doesn't bother me very much because it's the military doing it. It kind of what they're supposed to be doing. If they give this to alphabet soups then we have a problem. |
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Only lived in Sierra Vista for just over a year but this reminds me of the blimp on Ft. Huachuca. That one is for border security No shit, is it not a blimp though? Correct, it is tethered. My smiley freak was meant as sarcasm to suggest it is only used for border security. |
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Could someone in aviation answer this: Can you make a visual observation of Boston and any part of North Carolina while parked near Baltimore at an altitude of 10,000 feet? Sounds a bit too far to me.
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Oh my god people it's a stupid fucking piece of shit blimp for missile and air defense. Take your fucking tinfoil hats off. View Quote Does anybody actually believe that this government is going to spend $180mm on a blimp in a place like that, and only use it as a radar platform to look for cruise missiles? This has "mission creep" written all over it in giant neon letters. It's one secret DOJ memo away from being a platform for all kinds of things. |
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Could someone in aviation answer this: Can you make a visual observation of Boston and any part of North Carolina while parked near Baltimore at an altitude of 10,000 feet? Sounds a bit too far to me. View Quote d = 1.22 sqrt(h) d = distance to the horizon, in miles. h = height in feet equation is approx. d = 1.22*sqrt(10,000) d = 122 miles |
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I'm a privacy freak and this just doesn't bother me very much because it's the military doing it. It kind of what they're supposed to be doing. If they give this to alphabet soups then we have a problem. View Quote You might want to take a closer look at who actually runs the NSA. |
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