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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:53:58 AM EDT
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The police officers should have shot him. No, not in California. It might be legal, but I don't know any department that wouldn't discipline you for going to guns when there's two male cops and one suspect. I've been in worse fights with suspects and never thought about going to guns. This situation needed officer Ramos and corporal Cicinelli; guys that won't quit in a fight. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:01:31 AM EDT
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Well he won't see daylight for at least 7 years in cali, A&B on a uniformed LEO? +1 
Battery on a police officer is a misdemeanor in California. 241. (a) An assault is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by imprisonment in the county jail not
exceeding six months, or by both the fine and imprisonment. (b) When an assault is committed against the person of a parking control officer engaged in the performance of his or her duties, and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a parking control officer, the assault is punishable by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by both the fine and imprisonment. (c) When an assault is committed against the person of a peace officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, mobile intensive care paramedic, lifeguard, process server, traffic officer, code enforcement officer, animal control officer, or search and rescue member engaged in the performance of his or her duties, or a physician or nurse engaged in rendering emergency medical care outside a hospital, clinic, or other health care facility, and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, mobile intensive care paramedic, lifeguard, process server, traffic officer, code enforcement officer, animal control officer, or search and rescue member engaged in the performance of his or her duties, or a physician or nurse engaged in rendering emergency medical care, the assault is punishable by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by both the fine and imprisonment. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:02:09 AM EDT
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I thought so also. And a clearly good shoot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would have been a good shoot. I thought so also. And a clearly good shoot. Clearly a good shoot. But only because the idiot is filming. If he wasn't or if he didn't hand in the video ? Liberals pisss me off. This is what cops have to deal with. Good people are going to die at the hands of obamas sons because they are scared to use force. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:08:29 AM EDT
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Allow me to render some insight into this thread.
Batons suck, seriously, they are useless. They work better as a psychological weapon than anything else, if someone is hell bent on beating your ass hitting them with a collapsible will just annoy the hell out of them. Why is this you ask? Most of the ones they issue these days are aluminum, so if you hit something solid it bends and is rendered inoperable (read as will no longer collapse), this is so you have to report using it to get a new one. I carry one as I'm required to carry one "less lethal" tool. OC doesn't work on everyone, I've met plenty of Hispanic and African Americans this simply did not work on. I don't carry it because it greatly effects me and is just as (if not more) likely to screw me up than screw them up if I use it. I'm not issued a Taser, although I am qualified to use one and have been hit with one myself. They are effective if both prongs hit, but as soon as the power goes, the fight is back on. I would love to get one. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:21:19 AM EDT
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Knockdown, not knock out Bid difference Well he won't see daylight for at least 7 years in cali, A&B on a uniformed LEO? Fucking moron right there Quote HistoryQuoted:
Bid difference Well he won't see daylight for at least 7 years in cali, A&B on a uniformed LEO? Fucking moron right there 2 years 4 years probation' oh cali? 2 years probation and a county brick |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:21:49 AM EDT
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Back 15 years ago (who knows, maybe it was closer to 20), just over the border into RI, a local officer had a beef of some sort with some local guys (everybody might have been in their early 20s or so). Well, the cop ended up doing something to warrant getting disciplined or suspended (can't remember exactly what) because of his interaction with the guys in question, so he went to the auto shop two of the guys worked at and killed one or two of them. IIRC, the officer ended up committing suicide in prison. That LEO deserved much more than being "knocked the fuck out." He deserved to be planted by someone CCWing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This will piss some off. But some cops need to be knocked the fuck out. Advocating felony battery on an LEO. Bye. Back 15 years ago (who knows, maybe it was closer to 20), just over the border into RI, a local officer had a beef of some sort with some local guys (everybody might have been in their early 20s or so). Well, the cop ended up doing something to warrant getting disciplined or suspended (can't remember exactly what) because of his interaction with the guys in question, so he went to the auto shop two of the guys worked at and killed one or two of them. IIRC, the officer ended up committing suicide in prison. That LEO deserved much more than being "knocked the fuck out." He deserved to be planted by someone CCWing. Sabetta from Foster PD. Happened around 1995 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:26:19 AM EDT
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0bama has so many sons I lost count
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:26:41 AM EDT
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They hate the police so much quit rolling anyone there. Or let them have their own all black police force. They dont give a shit about black on black crime so if a bunch of black cops execute a bunch of shit birds I guess no one will care.
The minute that place turns into Somalia with a bunch of warlords handing out street justice the cries for the police would start right back up. The video could have been a comedy if the sound track would have been "Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang". One more shout of fuck the police. "Reload, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang". |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:32:45 AM EDT
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Seemed like broken jaw/wrist/rib from a baton would've ended it a little quicker
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:44:13 AM EDT
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Simple solution, hire more black cops. If a ghetto thug is violent, black cop gets out on camera and gives warning to perp. No compliance , black cop shoots hood rat. Just a thought.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:02:27 AM EDT
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Cops were on the power play and still couldn't take the guy down? Geez. I'm actually glad to see the restraint on the cops' part by not shooting the guy, but they should've had the batons out to crack his head open the old fashioned way. And then they'd be criminally charged. Yeah, I have a few friends who are cops and I use to think they had an ok job. Lately, you have to be a sucker to be a cop. Even the president hates you. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:29:02 AM EDT
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Advocating felony battery on an LEO. Bye. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This will piss some off. But some cops need to be knocked the fuck out. Advocating felony battery on an LEO. Bye. Did someone just get banned? I thought it was established on page 1 that this paricular knockout would not be a felony. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:46:19 AM EDT
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That video reminds me of Demolition Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOQitInC84&feature=youtube_gdata_player Maybe one day the technology will exist for Minority Report halos: 
EDIT: and the "Sick Sticks": 
A few months ago I started a thread about weaponizing a light or a series of lights to cause photosensitive seizures in people. I got the idea from the Puke Light: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_Incapacitator |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:51:19 AM EDT
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Always has been in the Dindu community. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 8:17:26 AM EDT
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I wish cops in real life were like they are in GTA 5....
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Posted: 12/17/2014 8:18:23 AM EDT
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Really? I don't think so. Yes... I understand the hesitation to use lethal force. But I'm going to ask a question. In a case like this, why doesn't one of the Cops just pull their .40 cal Glocks and knee cap his ass? Or.. maybe blow up a femur or tibia? Pull the trigger often, and aim below the waist. That will take the dance out of him. And if you happen to nick a ball or schwantz, all the better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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50% of arf.com is really happy after seeing that video. Really? I don't think so. Yes... I understand the hesitation to use lethal force. But I'm going to ask a question. In a case like this, why doesn't one of the Cops just pull their .40 cal Glocks and knee cap his ass? Or.. maybe blow up a femur or tibia? Pull the trigger often, and aim below the waist. That will take the dance out of him. And if you happen to nick a ball or schwantz, all the better. Can I send you a membership form to my club? 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 8:25:44 AM EDT
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Why the fuck would any rational person want to be a police officer in a city like that? A good retirement? Hate to break it to you, but you can get a good great retirement by doing something else. I've never had to interact with a Didnu either. 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:09:02 AM EDT
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Allow me to render some insight into this thread. Batons suck, seriously, they are useless. Some people I've nailed with a PR24 would disagree. 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:10:47 AM EDT
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Hate to break it to you, but you can get a good great retirement by doing something else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why the fuck would any rational person want to be a police officer in a city like that? A good retirement? Hate to break it to you, but you can get a good great retirement by doing something else. I'm not complaining. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:11:43 AM EDT
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[div style='text-align: left;'] Some people I've nailed with a PR24 would disagree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Allow me to render some insight into this thread. Batons suck, seriously, they are useless. Some people I've nailed with a PR24 would disagree. Wish I had a PR24 
I'm stuck with an aluminum asp
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:11:46 AM EDT
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That isn't LAPD...wrong uniforms and vehicle.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:15:31 AM EDT
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Serious question - what should the cops have done? Shot him. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:31:36 AM EDT
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This is ridiculous that police are now in the position where they have to physically get into fist fights due to the race baiters in this country.  Meh, the odds of getting shot for answering the door with an Xbox controller have probably gone down in the last month or two, so I see it as a wash or perhaps a slight win for personal freedom. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:32:48 AM EDT
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Hickory shampoo. It makes the scalp nice and...tender?  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question - what should the cops have done? Hickory shampoo. It makes the scalp nice and...tender? Dont forget the 12 gauge rinse.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:33:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:41:06 AM EDT
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What about using lassos or
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:43:20 AM EDT
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Quote History"Get the Shepherd's Crook !!!" |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:49:37 AM EDT
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Why don't they have batons? That woulda put a quick end to the resistance. It is so ironic that these are the same people who claim police are too violent--resisting arrest and boxing LEO. Such resistance is exactly why so many get hurt. It's a viscous circle with no end in site. LA is so opposed to impact weapons that they maintain a list of approved flashlights to make sure nobody carries one that could be used as a club. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:55:06 AM EDT
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Knockdown, not knock out Bid difference Well he won't see daylight for at least 7 years in cali, A&B on a uniformed LEO? Fucking moron right there Quote HistoryQuoted:
Bid difference Well he won't see daylight for at least 7 years in cali, A&B on a uniformed LEO? Fucking moron right there Depends on his prior criminal history. He could do as little as 10 days. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 11:03:14 AM EDT
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Serious question - what should the cops have done? Should have never started a fight that the two of them couldnt control and Backed off and waited for cavalry. As it was They could have taken the guy down, but they didnt want to sacrifice their bodies to do it. That lack of motivation ended badly for one of them. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 11:14:00 AM EDT
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Should have never started a fight that the two of them couldnt control and Backed off and waited for cavalry. As it was They could have taken the guy down, but they didnt want to sacrifice their bodies to do it. That lack of motivation ended badly for one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question - what should the cops have done? Should have never started a fight that the two of them couldnt control and Backed off and waited for cavalry. As it was They could have taken the guy down, but they didnt want to sacrifice their bodies to do it. That lack of motivation ended badly for one of them. I agree with this. When it's time to fight you better fight. It sucks but two of anyone really fighting one very rarely is as hard as they made this. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat would be racist. We are still apologizing for those days. 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:42:31 PM EDT
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That would be racist. We are still apologizing for those days. http://www.lifelineexpedition.co.uk/mota/downloads/mota%20pics/lifeline010.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
That would be racist. We are still apologizing for those days. http://www.lifelineexpedition.co.uk/mota/downloads/mota%20pics/lifeline010.jpg That picture makes me angry. What sort of doofus makes their son participate in that kind of self-humiliation to make a political point? |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:49:53 PM EDT
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Am I wrong for thinking that in the moment immediately after the thug knocked out the officer that the other officer should have drawn his weapon and shot the said thug?
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:52:21 PM EDT
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Well he won't see daylight for at least 7 years in cali, A&B on a uniformed LEO? +1
Battery on a police officer is a misdemeanor in California. 241. (a) An assault is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by imprisonment in the county jail not
exceeding six months, or by both the fine and imprisonment. (b) When an assault is committed against the person of a parking control officer engaged in the performance of his or her duties, and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a parking control officer, the assault is punishable by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by both the fine and imprisonment. (c) When an assault is committed against the person of a peace officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, mobile intensive care paramedic, lifeguard, process server, traffic officer, code enforcement officer, animal control officer, or search and rescue member engaged in the performance of his or her duties, or a physician or nurse engaged in rendering emergency medical care outside a hospital, clinic, or other health care facility, and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, mobile intensive care paramedic, lifeguard, process server, traffic officer, code enforcement officer, animal control officer, or search and rescue member engaged in the performance of his or her duties, or a physician or nurse engaged in rendering emergency medical care, the assault is punishable by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by both the fine and imprisonment. Well, it's is kinda stupid when, a battery on one person is a misdemeanor, but a battery on another person that happens to be wearing a badge is a felony. Either both instances should be felonies or both should be misdemeanors, none of this special treatment bullshit. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:55:59 PM EDT
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Hate to break it to you, but you can get a good great retirement by doing something else. I've never had to interact with a Didnu either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why the fuck would any rational person want to be a police officer in a city like that? A good retirement? Hate to break it to you, but you can get a good great retirement by doing something else. I've never had to interact with a Didnu either. Not too many entry level jobs left that offer defined benefit pension plans. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:58:24 PM EDT
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Am I wrong for thinking that in the moment immediately after the thug knocked out the officer that the other officer should have drawn his weapon and shot the said thug? Now I am not going to talk about what is legal. I am going to talk about what is right. Right in that if the video went national, everyone would side with police instead of the bad guy assuming the bad guys crime was something minor before he decided to resist. Well for it to be clean the officer should tell him to put his hands up first. After about 3-5 seconds, enough time for the bad guy to understand the command If the bad guy chooses to remain and fight rather then flee or comply, yup good shoot. If the bad guy was heading for his downed partner, yell the command while drawing and shooting him quick, worry about the riots later, and their probably would be riots. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:58:27 PM EDT
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This will piss some off. But some cops need to be knocked the fuck out. Why? There are bad people in every profession, most of the police I know, which is quite a bit are good folk. I do know 2 though that are scum and are on a constant power trip, who deserve a punch in the mouth daily. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 12:59:10 PM EDT
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Maybe police need to be issued big orange shotguns filled with rubber baton shells.
I reckon that might be way too dangerous too.... Bear spray? i heard bear spray works on bears...
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:00:44 PM EDT
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Advocating felony battery on an LEO. Bye. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When did it become OK to fight the police? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This will piss some off. But some cops need to be knocked the fuck out. Advocating felony battery on an LEO. Bye. 
Unless you cause a decent amount of bodily harm, getting fights are a misdemeanor, even with a random person. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:30:55 PM EDT
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Am I wrong for thinking that in the moment immediately after the thug knocked out the officer that the other officer should have drawn his weapon and shot the said thug? Good luck with that plan. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:39:42 PM EDT
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Am I wrong for thinking that in the moment immediately after the thug knocked out the officer that the other officer should have drawn his weapon and shot the said thug? Good luck with that plan. Could you imagine that thread? |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck with that plan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Am I wrong for thinking that in the moment immediately after the thug knocked out the officer that the other officer should have drawn his weapon and shot the said thug? Good luck with that plan. If the second officer gets knocked out both could be killed with their own guns? Thats assuming the perp could figure out how to get the gun out of the holster? |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:43:50 PM EDT
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Guy filming needs a taste of the taser too. What's he doing that's illegal? Last I checked it was legal to say mean things about the government. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:45:00 PM EDT
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:47:51 PM EDT
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. That's because the basement dwellers think about acting, but lack the balls to do so. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:49:41 PM EDT
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. That's because the basement dwellers think about acting, but lack the balls to do so. Or they haven't actually seen a police officer in the line of duty since 2004 and are addicted to porn and outrage. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:53:43 PM EDT
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. That's because the basement dwellers think about acting, but lack the balls to do so. Or they haven't actually seen a police officer in the line of duty since 2004 and are addicted to porn and outrage. And cheese doodles. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:55:28 PM EDT
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. That's because the basement dwellers think about acting, but lack the balls to do so. Or they haven't actually seen a police officer in the line of duty since 2004 and are addicted to porn and outrage. Quit talkin' about me. Just kidding. I saw cops this morning on the way to work. Guilty as charged about liking porn and tending to get pissed when I see folks get hurt without a good reason.......which is NOT what's in this video. I agree with the guy that says Officer should have put him down as soon as his buddy got KOd.
We don't pay cops to fight criminals. We pay them to stop and catch the fuckers, and I figure any time someone knowingly fights a cop he's eventually gonna go for the cop's gun. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:56:05 PM EDT
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Only difference between those dindus and cop haters here is that those dindus aren't fat and dont live in their moms basement. And those dindus are willing to fight the cops over stupid shit where the basement dwellers probably prefer to act like the cameraman. That's because the basement dwellers think about acting, but lack the balls to do so. Or they haven't actually seen a police officer in the line of duty since 2004 and are addicted to porn and outrage. And cheese doodles. STOP READING MY MIIIIIIIND!!!!!!
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