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Posted: 11/27/2014 7:12:52 PM EDT
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Damn.
How far the Royal Navy has fallen. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 7:23:20 PM EDT
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I'm sure we'd be glad to help out by lending them a couple of squadrons since lockmart is holding up their planes.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 9:46:30 PM EDT
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What is the hold up? too lazy to read.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 9:49:05 PM EDT
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 9:55:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2014 9:57:25 PM EDT
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Can they get an aircraft carrier pregnant? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. They'll try. 
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Posted: 11/27/2014 10:54:16 PM EDT
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. Sweet, we "found" a new carrier. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 11:05:38 PM EDT
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN?
eta- so let get this straight, we're going to loan them to the Brits? Why don't we just take the ones the Brits are getting in return? |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:07:54 PM EDT
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? eta- so let get this straight, we're going to loan them to the Brits? Why don't we just take the ones the Brits are getting in return? We're not going to loan them planes. We're going to (potentially) base some USMC squadrons (our jets, our pilots) on their carrier for a few years. I suppose it'll give their crew a chance to practice operations with active squadrons, but I don't know how it would go in an actual war if we wanted the boat to go somewhere or they wanted the planes to shoot something for them. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:20:30 PM EDT
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Can they get an aircraft carrier pregnant? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. Sure, here's one giving birth. 
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:22:06 PM EDT
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But, but no one but the US Marines wanted the B models and the Marines end up fucking up everything.
*******sarcasm************** |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:39:42 PM EDT
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So they sold us their old Harriers and now dont have the F35B. So are they asking us to fly their....I mean our Harriers off their Carrier until they get our...er I mean their new F35B's up and flying?
Seems like a great symbiotic relationship we have going
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:43:37 PM EDT
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What is the hold up? too lazy to read. Production probably. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:47:01 PM EDT
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? 
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:52:54 PM EDT
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sr5shY7C0X0/UO7wS_ZQoOI/AAAAAAABOCk/Ix6verkjw-4/s1600/1-RTR2Y1GN.jpg That's pretty big. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 7:17:55 PM EDT
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The Marines will certainly enjoy the traditional daily rum ration. They won't have to try to hide their booze that deployment.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 8:24:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sr5shY7C0X0/UO7wS_ZQoOI/AAAAAAABOCk/Ix6verkjw-4/s1600/1-RTR2Y1GN.jpg |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 8:26:24 PM EDT
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Are they going to be seconded to the RN or are they going to remain an intact, self-contained USMC unit that just happens to be under another nation's naval command? I know the USMC has done the former (with other countries) in the past.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 8:27:31 PM EDT
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Damn. How far the Royal Navy has fallen. They are only doing this because they built their new carrier and the F-35 is running so far behind it is getting done first.. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 8:28:08 PM EDT
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sr5shY7C0X0/UO7wS_ZQoOI/AAAAAAABOCk/Ix6verkjw-4/s1600/1-RTR2Y1GN.jpg Pleasure. We have two of them in the pipeline. The first will be HMS Queen Elizabeth and the second will be HMS Prince of Wales. http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk/media/latest-news/yr-2014.aspx |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 8:29:18 PM EDT
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Damn. How far the Royal Navy has fallen. I wouldn't blame lockeads failures land on the Royal Navy. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 8:30:46 PM EDT
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. Sure, here's one giving birth. http://i.imgur.com/6jPvVr8.jpg?1 That's pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:27:22 PM EDT
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. the Brits are about to learn the meaning of "finders, keepers"... 
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:33:32 PM EDT
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If it were a real carrier instead of a ski jump ship they would be able to operate existing aircraft.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:36:50 PM EDT
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Wonder if maybe it's a sort of half truth. A mixed squadron to reacquaint the RN with carrier ops. After all, when those ships and aircraft go into service the UK will have had quite a gap with a certain level of institutional knowledge lost especially with fixed wing.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:37:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:40:46 PM EDT
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F-35 will be the death of Western air power.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:41:42 PM EDT
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Money issues, right?
Socialism is expensive. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 9:43:39 PM EDT
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the Brits are about to learn the meaning of "finders, keepers"... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. the Brits are about to learn the meaning of "finders, keepers"... You wot mate? 
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Posted: 12/5/2014 10:19:50 PM EDT
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eta- so let get this straight, we're going to loan them to the Brits? Where did you read that? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:06:49 PM EDT
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So, the Brits are going to get an airwing, plenty of deck handling and ship handling training, combined ops training, while the Marines get a full deck to themselves without having to be the bastard children on a Navy carrier. Minus all the F-35 bullshit, this is a win/win for both countries and both branches. I also foresee an increase in Brit/USMC pilot exchange programs, giving the Brits a cadre of carrier qualified jocks, and a future conflict where dropping onto an allied deck is as casual as landing at home.
Not seeing this as a bad thing. Until the Navy gets jealous and wants to join the party. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:31:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did you read that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: eta- so let get this straight, we're going to loan them to the Brits? Where did you read that? Either loaning the equipment or the men and equipment? or Joint task force? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:49:03 PM EDT
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. the Brits are about to learn the meaning of "finders, keepers"... You wot mate? http://www.echosquadron.com/pics/SBSRM5.jpg There is a reason they are up to their tits in water, we "borrowed" your boat.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:49:06 PM EDT
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Money issues, right? Socialism is expensive. That's pretty rich. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:52:25 PM EDT
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In all honesty, that is probably going to be one of the most fun floats ever. The British military are always a fun time to hang out with, in my experience at least.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:03:26 PM EDT
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Absolute genius.
A Trojan horse operation for America to recapture her ancestral homeland. Quite brilliant. Don't fret, British Arfcommers ... you'll like Waffle House and brodozers. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 4:11:40 PM EDT
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There is a reason they are up to their tits in water, we "borrowed" your boat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. the Brits are about to learn the meaning of "finders, keepers"... You wot mate? http://www.echosquadron.com/pics/SBSRM5.jpg There is a reason they are up to their tits in water, we "borrowed" your boat. LOL.  .
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Posted: 12/6/2014 8:47:00 PM EDT
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I was thinking about this more. I'd probably support our Marines bombing whatever the British wanted them to.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 8:49:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Should have kept their harriers, it would appear.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:01:10 AM EDT
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I wouldn't put too much credence into the thoughts of a former British Army officer on what the Royal Navy and RAF might do.
That said, if the QE is operational, you can bet your bottom dollar she'll be flying something, and that something will probably be F-35B's (if only because they won't want to waste the money certifying AV-8B's). Would we provide a USMC air wing? Probably; though it wouldn't shock me if it had a lot of RN/RAF 'exchange' pilots in it. Plenty of time to redirect their exchange pilots to the 'correct' squadrons. It would only make sense to operate one of these big ships with Helos-only as a LHA/LPH if HMS Ocean was unavailable, and she just got out of the yard. It's not like the UK goes anywhere without us anyway, if we had to 'loan' a squadron. |
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:13:20 AM EDT
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Send them AB-8B's for the interim. I am sure they can go right into flying them.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:16:27 AM EDT
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Pleasure. We have two of them in the pipeline. The first will be HMS Queen Elizabeth and the second will be HMS Prince of Wales. http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk/media/latest-news/yr-2014.aspx Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sr5shY7C0X0/UO7wS_ZQoOI/AAAAAAABOCk/Ix6verkjw-4/s1600/1-RTR2Y1GN.jpg Pleasure. We have two of them in the pipeline. The first will be HMS Queen Elizabeth and the second will be HMS Prince of Wales. http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk/media/latest-news/yr-2014.aspx That's awesome. |
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:18:36 AM EDT
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So, the Brits are going to get an airwing, plenty of deck handling and ship handling training, combined ops training, while the Marines get a full deck to themselves without having to be the bastard children on a Navy carrier. Minus all the F-35 bullshit, this is a win/win for both countries and both branches. I also foresee an increase in Brit/USMC pilot exchange programs, giving the Brits a cadre of carrier qualified jocks, and a future conflict where dropping onto an allied deck is as casual as landing at home. Not seeing this as a bad thing. Until the Navy gets jealous and wants to join the party. Yup why not? The USN/RN are pretty close cousins anyway. The USS Winston Churchill's navigator is a RN billet. |
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:20:35 AM EDT
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You're going to let Marines on a ship named after a woman? You do realize that the ship WILL become pregnant.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:24:51 AM EDT
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Sounds good to me, I'm sure US pilots with carrier experience could probably help them work out the kinks in their new ships.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:26:57 AM EDT
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Yup why not? The USN/RN are pretty close cousins anyway. The USS Winston Churchill's navigator is a RN billet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, the Brits are going to get an airwing, plenty of deck handling and ship handling training, combined ops training, while the Marines get a full deck to themselves without having to be the bastard children on a Navy carrier. Minus all the F-35 bullshit, this is a win/win for both countries and both branches. I also foresee an increase in Brit/USMC pilot exchange programs, giving the Brits a cadre of carrier qualified jocks, and a future conflict where dropping onto an allied deck is as casual as landing at home. Not seeing this as a bad thing. Until the Navy gets jealous and wants to join the party. Yup why not? The USN/RN are pretty close cousins anyway. The USS Winston Churchill's navigator is a RN billet. Churchill was 1/2 American. 
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Posted: 12/9/2014 5:30:39 AM EDT
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Let Marines borrow something. LOL. the Brits are about to learn the meaning of "finders, keepers"... You wot mate? http://www.echosquadron.com/pics/SBSRM5.jpg If the Marines hadn't borrowed the ship, those guys wouldn't be in the water.
ETA: How did somebody beat me to that reply?!
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Posted: 12/9/2014 5:45:22 AM EDT
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The grand irony of the British asking for US Marines to operate on one of their warships...
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Posted: 12/9/2014 5:47:50 AM EDT
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Pleasure. We have two of them in the pipeline. The first will be HMS Queen Elizabeth and the second will be HMS Prince of Wales. http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk/media/latest-news/yr-2014.aspx Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big is the HMS Queen Elizabeth compared to say a Nimitz or Ford class CVN? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sr5shY7C0X0/UO7wS_ZQoOI/AAAAAAABOCk/Ix6verkjw-4/s1600/1-RTR2Y1GN.jpg Pleasure. We have two of them in the pipeline. The first will be HMS Queen Elizabeth and the second will be HMS Prince of Wales. http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk/media/latest-news/yr-2014.aspx Have you guys figured out it needs to be CATOBAR yet?
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Posted: 12/9/2014 9:03:24 AM EDT
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give it to the Marines...
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